Not necessarily.
Strategy trumps frame control... anyone whose read my lay reports knows this. Moreover on the subject of LGBT culture and it's applications for seduction... it really depends on the
social archetypes involved. Certain girls from certain sub-cultures are very much taken in sexual ambiguity.
I can't fully disagree as you are right - strategy is essential. But I feel this becomes a matter of semantics, because all results depends on strategy and all results depends on frame, even those set unconsciously, and sure, you a strategy will serve as a mean to an end to set a particular frame. Then what is essential: the way to get there, or where you are going? Both clearly. Which is most important... that's debatable, but at the end, both are essential because as you point out, we are dealing with different girls in different settings, requiring different strategies.
But then we also cannot escape the fact that all interactions involves frames, and frames oftentimes determines not only the outcome of a social interaction but also defines THE social interaction itself.
I doubt you will disagree with that.
But if you believe strategy is more important, I can accept that and won't argue against it.
Other girls screen such guys out instantly and brutally... because their sub-culture does not roll that way. Even in developed countries. This is why I always recommend that you calibrate everything to her archetype. Including the clothes you wear... a little diversity goes a long way for increasing your lay ratio.
I agree with this too, but this too is a matter of frame... a matter of social frame very often. When I go to more niche subculture such as Gay clubs, high end venues, hipster venues, hiphop events (I go to one every wednesday to push myself, since as you know I have historically done notoriously bad in them) and even more odd events like
black/arab gay nights (some nice chicks there), the overall vibe in those different settings differs and I have to calibrate. Some have of course been more challenging for me to calibrate to, whereas others easier (which is normal), but practice makes wonders.
Generalization.
I've met members of the 'L" and "T" who hate gays with passion. And if a girl decides she hates men... what does his sexuality have to do with it? That said... if a seducer is willing to learn her
subconscious archetypes and attune strategy this way. Then it doesn't matter if she "hates men"... field tested.
This is correct, but I was not talking about lesbians nor transwomen here, bus CIS women. I know both communities very well (you know that). The Lesbians I know from the lgbtq+ clubs and the transwomen, I met quite a few in lgbtq+ clubs, but also (mostly actually) in dedicated events (used to go to an event called
Escualita every sunday - which a trans/hetero event, and believe it or not, it has been a lot of fun and actually a very good place to pick up girls at - of course talking about CIS-girls).
Many transwomen hate gayguys but not straight gays (straight-guys are their "target"). There are probably some who do dislike straightmen that is a very very small minority and mostly travs (some who claim to identify as women, without really becoming women either in looks, or in soul - they don't transcend into feminity if we are to use feminist thinker Simone DeBeauvoir's concept), but the vast majority like straight men, especially very masculine men. Transwomen rarely see gaymen as part of their sisterhood, and same goes for lesbians. Regarding lesbians, there are many exceptions though.
The reasons can differ. Some lesbians hate men in general. This could be linked to ideas regarding lesbian feminism. Some lesbian women like gaymen but not straightmen, since they dislike "heteronormativity" and "toxic masculinity" linked to it.
However, some transwomen hate gaymen as many gaymen claim transwomen do not belong to the LGBTQ+ community. Some transwomen also believe that, which is why they have their own flag (which looks super cool) and their own community (and own events). Secondly, some transwomen do consider themselves part of LGBTQ+ and therefore see gaymen as outright competitors - even though they are not (since gaymen hunt gaymen mostly, whereas transwomen hunt a different demographic). I am no expert in trans-psychology, but in my VAST experience with hanging in this environment, I have seen many transwomen express irrational hatred towards gaymen. Just a few weeks ago, my gayfriend was attacked with a shoe by a peruvian transexual ... while she was yelling "Puta Gay". This is not a one time experience however. Another I was there with another gay friend of mine who went with me to the tranny event. The trannies ordered him to leave because this was not a place for faggots.
I have also seen a split between gay and transexuals in lgbtq+ clubs ("gay clubs"). It is not uncommon. Transexuals tend to go out with other transeuxals. If men are with them, they are usually straight men courting them (or orbiters... they have plenty). And no, even though I personally do not have a kink for transexuals, I do not consider men who do homosexuals.
The LGBTQ+ community is often protrayed as one community, with strong bonds, but in fact, their bonds are weak at best.
Is it always about sexuality? No. Is it often about sexuality (rather... "orientation")? Yes. There is a correlation.
But it was assumed in my post that we were talking about CIS-women. It is not like I have to be precisely express that I am talking about CIS-women here (on this forum it is assumed, unless otherwise specified), and many CIS-Women do consider gaymen part of their group. This is a known fact. The term Faghag exists for a reason.
On the forum, I will assume we are talking about CIS-women each time I mention the word
women here. I will not add the precision that they are CIS-women or trans.
-Teevster
