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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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It may be time for me to take my girl break. And while I’m on it, I can improve everything about me and my fundamentals and work to get used to it all. I won’t avoid women. I’ll just eject voluntarily a lot more so I can go work on myself.
 

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Always have data to chat

We’re on holiday now and I don’t have data to chat up some girls to get em to my place. I only have night time data. And the only time that I’ll get my allowance to buy it is 2 weeks from now. So I’m stuck.

Moral of the story: always have data or a means to chat to people over the phone.
 

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Fashion goals: urban

This seems to be the perfect style for college life. This screams that you’re in it for the experience. I came up with this when I realized that semi formal wear was just a way to signal to women that you were a healthy provider for them. Whereas street style is what you see on hip hop videos and whatnots and seem to echo “lover” to everyone that is paying attention.

I think I’ll slowly integrate this into my life. Perhaps I my even keep it up into old age if I can pull it off sophisticatedly. We’ll have to see.
 
a good date brings a smile to your lips... and hers

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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Challenges after the breakthrough

After this epiphany I think it is safe to say that I know the way forward now. However, there are always challenges to whatever journey you're on no matter how simple it is. This is because application is very different from theory. While theories can be solved just by knowing the answer and then stating it, application requires practice, precision, timing, effort, etc.

But once mastery is achieved, the newly acquired skills can feel like blinking. Walking in the park. Like common sense.

So here are some of the challenges that I may face on my current journey

1. Academics vs Girls
Getting into any kind of relationship with girls need time. But getting good marks takes time as well. So I'll have to resolve this somehow. A possible solution could be to focus on school for now and then get girls after graduating. However, I hear that the working world is insane. So I'll be in the exact situation as I am in right now.

I'll just make a post about this and hope somebody responds

2. Low low low success rate
Learning on the fly means making mistakes and learning from them. However, this tends to reduce success rates when it comes to the people that may have went along with you if you played it their way (spoiler alert: they never do in that scenario either). This makes matter worse as the success rate is already low in terms of who'll instantly be attracted to you and who won't. Seduction is a numbers game. So if you fuck with the numbers, you'll have a hard time.

But still, avoiding this is the very reason why I am unskilled in this regard in the first place. So I'll need to get busy.

3. Their jedi mind games
I don't wanna fall in love. It sounds way too dangerous. Yet I leave myself vulnerable to this if I wish to progress with women. The great seducers out there had their hearts broken. So it's kind of proof that it will happen eventually. So rather than run away from it, I'll just try and be ready for the fallout.

I feel like I've taken the red pill too many times to let any of these things happen as it seems very unnecessary. I really hate it when I know exactly what the consequences are for something, and I know exactly how to avoid them, but then I don't. So there's a part of me screaming not to ever let it happen.

So I'm facing a bit of a conflict of interest right now because of 1 and 3. An existential crisis if you will.

But after a lifetime of being made fun of for my social skills, especially regarding women, I feel like I am so close to being able to get what I want out of them. Yet if I continue more, then it may result in academic and possibly financial destruction.

But there is an answer to this, I'm sure of it. And I'll find it.

For the glory of pussy
 

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Sleep with everything

No more standards

I had this idea a long time ago, but when you’re working on multiple things, your fundamentals, mindset, game, etc, you tend to forget about the stuff you previously learned. This is especially true when it comes to application of things and is one of the reasons why people give up halfway or less through stuff.

But yeah, I gotta lose my standards so that I can sleep with more women.

Right now I just remembered not being all that interested in the girl that broke my virginity (who’s also the only girl I’ve slept with) but now I seem to adore her.

The wonders of sex.

Even though I’m imagining faces that I will really be uncomfortable sleeping with simply because their lack of quality triggers my eeeewww button, there’s something somewhat endearing about it. I guess it’s because I remember 2017 in which the girls who I almost went to bed with started off eeeewwwwww in my mind’s standard, but then once I realized that I actually had a shot at sleeping with them, then went straight from being a 4 to an 8.

And they stayed that way.

Might be my mind trying to prevent me from being terrified by their beauty.

Anyway, regardless of it, it’s time to sleep with the 5s and belows!
 

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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Long term reputation affects may be minimal

So after flopping with a girl in the upcoming FR that I’ll post, it may be safe to assume that the fallout from having a player reputation will be minimal to non existent if I can pull it off right. But still, I’ll have to assume that the damage will be maximal so I can prepare for the worst
 

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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Only a legend

I surfed youtube for a while before landing on Kezia Noble's page. I watched a few videos and I stared at them with a smug grin nodding to everything she said as I knew a lot of what she was saying. Kezia is quite huge in the pickup artistry community. So understanding and relating to everything she was saying with a feeling of colleague rather than student gave my ego a big stroke.

Which got me thinking.....

The shit that I want to pull off of approaching and either getting rejected by every single girl in the school or sleeping with all of them will either make me the world's biggest loser, or........

A legend.

if I pull it off then the feat I would have done would have been huge. And if I fail then the world will remember me for my enormous balls. So, I may be able to walk in the ranks of the greatest afterwards either way.

And perhaps I could even get some free coaching?

But that will just put my level of fame on their level. However, my level of expertise may come closer to it, but will still be far and in need of lots of work. I've researched and practiced a lot. And there's still a vast number of levels that I need to reach. But still, The sooner I try it all out and actually attempt to become part of the elites, the sooner that I can either get there, or fail and move onto something else.

Soooooooooo, I guess it's time I grab my balls, supersize em and start swinging.
 

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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Isolated realization

Nadiah
Went to a birthday party all the way from school alone for her (and her twin sister). I had a crush on her and spent a lot of time trying to date her. She friendzoned me pretty adamantly and I've accepted it for years. There was a vip table for her friends to sit at and she called out the the friends she wanted to sit there. She didn’t call out my name.

That was a pretty terrible feeling.

On top of that my friend prioritised them and the party waaaaaaay over me as I was pretty ignored the entire time. Everything I said to anyone went unnoticed. And I felt like a fish out of water during the entire party. Which reminded me of the feeling I used to get in high school. This made me realize that I would have been a lot more social if I was in a more English-friendly school. This party taught me a lot. Mostly that even though I throw in a lot of effort from my part, people still do not care for you at all. There was a point when people were supposed to take pictures with the birthday girls. When it was time for me to take with them, the one I had a crush on danced away. She eventually came back when people complained, but regardless of that, my eyes have been opened.

Other chicks in my life:

Charmaine
Freshly married girl who may just be using me for my maths skills. She lies about a lot of things and keeps a lot of things about herself secret, so there isn't much narrative that I can trust about her. I really need to next her soon.

Nicole
She rejected being a sexual girl. Sure, they all do that, but she did it pretty strongly. Meaning that I will make no headway with her. Even though I've sort of been trying with her for a year or something. So I'l have to cut her as well.

Kasey
Plays coy a lot. Came over last night with a guy. She was looking for cash for some reason. As soon as gave it to her, she bounced with the guy. Next!

loraine
She laughingly rejected giving me her digits. Next.

Lesson learnt from this: So many women who I thought I was making headway with seem to think literally nothing of me. So I'm starting from the bottom yet again. I've emerged from this entire ordeal a lot more cynical than I was going in. So, a few changes need to be made. But don't worry though, tactically I will change for the better.

Morally though.......
 

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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Loser seducer

Alright then

This is a model of what I believe to be the best seduction process that I can go through through college knowing what I know and having experienced regarding females, their nature and the entire seduction surrounding them.

First, I shall approach her and see how far I can get in this process:

Approach > number > date > sex

The entire goal is sex. So if at any moment I feel like I won’t have sex with this girl, I’ll quit and accept the seduction as a failure.

However, I can still be friends with her. Reason why I will let myself befriend her is solely so I can practice all pickup tech on her.

EVERYTHING.

This way, the relationship can be mutually beneficial. She’ll have me for validation or whatever she’s using me for. And I can practice everything that I have learnt from Girlschase. If she resists this however, I will consider this as THE SECOND REJECTION and I will proceed to next her out of my life. Forever.

I ain’t playing around no more.

I finally see seduction as ME against the world AND HER. The “us” against the world frame is just that, a frame. And once I realized this, it allowed me to fully accept female nature for what it is. Including all of its dark parts.

Anyway, the reason why I call this the loser seducer model and not just the seducer model is because the second that girls realize that I’m willing to be their friend, they’ll jump at the chance to backpocket me. So I’ll have to let the friend option be implicit rather than explicit. But also because I expect a lot of rejections down the road. So much so that it may very well end up becoming my identity. Although it seems bad (and it is), it will allow girls one thing:

Plausible deniability (somewhat).

The girls who wish to have sex with me can do it. And people won’t slut shame them for being part of my harem of women as the girl can just state that she and I are just friends. And seeing all the friends that I have, they’ll be forced to believe her. And considering that I’ll be flirty with all of my female friends, I can flirt with her right in front of them and they won’t notice a thing. We’ll be hiding in plain sight.

Still, this model requires a lot of stoic muscle to pull off. But it seems to be the most valid as the women that rejected me at first may end up turned on by me practicing my tech on them.

The fact that I’ll be rejected by a lot of people will put me in the loser spot for most people. What I can do to appease this is to be:
1. Great in my academics
2. Great at my money making
3. Get a passion that I can perfect (besides seduction)

I may also need to get myself a fuck budget used specifically to get into their panties.

The last obstacle that may hinder this model is the girl’s need for love/validation. Sure, girls love sex, but they love these more. So If I can implicitly convince her that giving me sex is the only way for her to get love/validation from me, then perhaps she will eventually put out. This is perhaps a slight paradox:

1. Reject her once she rejects sex with me
2. Befriend her once she rejects sex with me

So this can be appeased by loving and validating her IMMENSELY once I’ve met her, and once she has rejected me sexually, then I can friend her, but I’ll hold back a tremendous amount of love from her so that she can feel it’s absence. While the friendship is maintained, she can get some love/validation, but she’ll feel like there’s more to it than that. And she can either get it through fucking me, or she can just accept whatever it is I give her. And of course, if she rejects me further, the pattern should be solidified in her mind once I next her, and she’ll realize that the rejection is pushing me away and not her personality. I’ll remain polite and happy with her the entire time so that she doesn’t feel like it’s autorejection, and that she can come to me at any point, and I’ll accept her with open arms.

Ultimately, this model is to act as a chameleon by being friends with all of the girls who have rejected me. Meanwhile I’m practicing my pickup tech on them, until they’re horny enough to sleep with me. And my plausible deniability of just being friends with her should be good enough to prevent anti-slut defence from her, or slut shaming from her friends.

I WILL NOT TELL ANYBODY ABOUT THIS MODEL.

Remember that, this model is based on two phases:
1. The seduction phase
2. The “friendship” phase

I first go through my SEDUCTION PROCESS first, so that I can either sleep with her, or raise the excuse that I’ve been rejected by yet another girl (how typical of me). Then, I can befriend her, and use her as a training field for my pickup executions, lest she intends to be nexted by me.

In any case, I intend to stick to this model with brutal loyalty.

I feel completely justified going through with this, especially given the darker elements of female nature. If I somehow end up being completely rejected by all girls for all phases, then I’ll just focus on my passions, academics, marks, etc. The loser reputation will hold true and I’ll be exactly where I would have been if I didn’t even go for the girls in the first place. I don’t think I would have lost a single thing. However, I would have gained everything. Knowledge, experience, and field reports. Lots and lots of field reports :p

I should probably specify my seduction process and friendship processes in two posts. Coming soon to a theater near you.

On a sidenote, I believe that I shall be taking my daily field dissection journal a bit more seriously. Even though it’ll feel like a diary, I’ll try to make it work out.
 

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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Aaaaaand I'm back

I am back from my not so long break, and I must say, it was pretty relaxing. The break coincided with my school break and so it felt pretty good. I’ve been back at school for a week now. I learned a tiny bit about myself during my self-reflection and I guess the final results were okay. Not a lot achieved but I did make some progress in terms of self-actualization.

So now, on my continuous venture of self-improvement, I have returned home….THE BOARDS!!!!! I guess the next thing to post is a list of my current goals and outlooks, so I suppose I’ll do that soon.

As for now, I’ll just keep the flames burning :)
 

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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Goals

Mass Socializing
Get good at talking to people in general

Learn about power
At the moment,I don't know enough about power to see how it would benefit me.

Becoming good at my schoolwork again
Being more social caused my schoolwork to decay in the past 5 years. This needs to be rectified.

Making and maintaining relationships with people (value providing and connecting)
Getting into deep two-sided relationships instead of believing that there is nothing of value I can give as a beta.

Get in shape (fear of collagen)
Need to exercise again as my fear of decaying collagen from joints as well as my fear of academic failure as kept me away from it. As well as general laziness and procrastination.

Get saving financially
So far I haven't spent outlandishly on comfort food and may be able to accumulate a bit of money if I continue like this.

Loser seducer(?)
Okay, so I've garnered somewhat of a player-ish (or gayish) reputation from being seen with various different women. I want to shed this so I won't be pressured when approaching new women. I may also need to work on the loser seducer model a bit as I didn't really care about friendly socializing (or I thought that I didn't have what it takes). Of course, this may be futile and I'll have to face rejection, flaking, flopped sex attempts and other embarrassing failures under the vision of the world.

I also need to work on touching and flirting as these are the key to getting sex discreetly (I think)

I don't think I'll be focused on sex as much as previous years as an overactive sexdrive seems to cause me to overdo things in general. This way I can also start analyzing LMR and finding out how I can beat and/or avoid it. Plus I wish to focus on the emotional and connective aspects of game rather than the sexing. This will cause me to look at everything from a different angle and allow growth in neglected areas.
 

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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Updated goals

The 2 questions thread got me some good answers, and so I have listed my goals as so:

1. Sex with any/everybody
Powerful inspiration from Songbird fog moved me to taking my sex life seriously. And technical advice from Fuck this and Tony D gave me some tools I could use to do this.

2. Setting up dates smoothly
Setting up dates and chillouts in such a way that flaking feels impossible is a very useful tactic that I will be spamming as much as I can. So I'll think up ways to do this and I'll think of other areas in which this tactic can be applied or converted.

3. Reputation management
If I can set up interactions in a smooth manner then, my reputation should be safe from rejection. Rejection of the few doesn't necessarily translate into rejection of the nation as NealIRC pointed out. So the effects of rejection is lowered down a bit with this in mind. I'll need to think of ways that I can play around with this :p
 

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Some of your experiences taught me a new lesson. Thanks !
 

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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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loner said:
Some of your experiences taught me a new lesson. Thanks !

Glad to be of help bro! The boards is an oasis of experience. So hopefully everything you need is on here.

:)
 

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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Daily field dissection cont?

Not sure if I should continue the daily field analysis journal. I started it because I tend to be bored in my room, so I figured I’d always have time for it. But considering my new perspective on approaches (that I shouldn’t mass approach but should instead focus on getting everything I want out of each girl before moving on) I may not have enough content to post there.

I should also post the notes I have on my phone. Throughout my daily life, whenever I get an idea or a thought related to pickup which may be new or important, I type it as a note on my phone safely hidden inside of it. I have roughly 1400 now and I need to transfer them onto my laptop and my online journal.

Not sure when I’ll do any of this though. I’ll just leave this here as a reminder to my future self.
 

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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Preconceptions of game redefined

Okay, this may be the phase that thrusts me into intermediate level if I get it down:

GAME

Seeing that girls spend so much time gaming men, I never even noticed it happening to me. Shit tests, gaslighting, mixed signals and other dark tactics women use on men can actually (and should actually) be used right back on them.

This is why I favoured the FUCKBOY label over the PLAYER label. Because I assumed that in one, all I had to do was fuck, and in the other, game and mind trickery was needed.

I recently made a note that pickup artistry does rely on a heavy bit of deception (or at least dishonest unspoken assumptions) and this ultimately connected me to what game really is.

And so, I will be focusing a lot of effort into learning how to game women just as much as they game me.

I will outplay the playerette.

fractionation, push-pull, validation, criticism, I will learn to use everything and eventually become a master gamer.

GIANT NOTE: This is also why I tend to suck with women. Because I've been too honest in my interactions with them. So impulsively truthful that my skull may as well have been transparent. And after initiating a man to woman interaction with girls, I never noticed it, but they always seemed to start playing some sort of game. To start playing hot and cold and the game of jealousy. I always flunked the game because I had no idea I was playing in it in the first place.

But now I do. I see it everywhere now.

This means that my fear f using dark game was actually holding me back from experiencing it holistically. Ignoring something doesn't render it nonexistent. It only renders you ignorant. And just like how you'll lose your muscles if you don't work them, you'll lose that knowledge if you do not exercise it.

It may be a dangerous hunch, afterall, if I fuck up then people will let all hell break lose over me. But if I'm right about this, and I can master this, then I will achieve massive results. And I'll be able to defend myself against attackers.

Plus, this seems to be a crucial element to getting laid in college (especially if the campus is tiny).

I'm way behind all of society right now i terms of game. So I'll be combining research with experience as I have been doing with pickup artistry. I think I also know now what to look for once I buy the One Date pickup courses, etc.

Let the games begin
 

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Gaming goal

To summarize, I'll be focusing on "dark, manipulative and deceptive" gaming tactics in everyday life
 

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The end lap

Note: started off random, and after seeing that I’m in the end lap, had a bit of a rant and made an ultimatum.
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After replying to a post, I seem to have forgotten what I wanted to post here. So I’ll just post some random notes

Mostly pertaining to to the whole, mind games thing, it has become apparent that game really is the entire fabric of social interaction. So it’s super important to learn. May also be a little toxic (which is why I avoided it) but:

We don’t live in an honest world, therefore, honesty isn’t enough.

Given the family I’m part of and was raised in, I may need to work on my ability to emotionally connect with people as I may have been distant all of my life. Might even need therapy for it. Goody. Although, I don’t think it’ll help, especially considering how much it’ll cost. So perhaps just knowing this is half the cure?

Need to start focusing on flawless game. Everything counts when it comes to interactions and I might even start using canned lines. All of this so I can reach advanced level and also start getting results.

But then again, I might also just have to give up on all of this. There was a point in my life when I had this whole, mind games idea, yet, I don’t seem to have gone very far through it. Could I be kidding myself? Was learning helplessness really the rational thing to do, rather than a side effect?.......
.....should I just give up?

A highlighted note I made was: You need to be the full package. So perhaps I just need to do that and I’ll be able to get some results.

I also watched some golddigger prank videos on YouTube. I’m extremely skeptical of the videos themselves, however, they did somehow excite me into working out and becoming e the optimal lover that my body can muster.

Combining the perfect body, an authentic personality, perfect game, and good fundamentals seems to be me giving this the best swing that I can physically give. The only reason I am not a complete beginner (I think) is because I have worked on getting rid of all fears and on being strategically minded rather than comfortably minded. I have decided that if I can’t get results after doing all of this, then I’m done. I shall retire and focus solely on my career and not being too socially awkward for society to kick me out. This swing seems like it will launch me into the advanced side of pickup artistry, yet all I wish to get is results. I need to close. I need to be able to form a relationship or a a genuine friendship that can last. I need anything.

So I’ll conquer a few more fears, work on perfection (because I understand from my research that the girls of modern day seem to be the hardest to game despite the sexual revolution) and I’ll give it my all. But afterwards, if nothing happens, it’s all over.

What’s left after everything?
 

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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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GC big videos

Saw two girlschase videos today:

1. Why you need to treat every girl like a girlfriend: https://youtu.be/yyOIW3qV-9c
2. How to get laid on the first date: https://youtu.be/_qKxV9Foy4E

The first one completes my loser seducer model and upgrades it into just a regular seducer model. As it supplies it with plausible de is iLife as to why I could be acting so sexually. It is merely in my nature. This is the secret ingredient to being a full time lover.

The second video reminded me of the basics. It’s funny how the same advice sounds completely different depending on the level at which you listen to them.

One of the reasons why I don’t fuck women, is because I’m afraid of the reputation amassed from women entering my room all the time. After watching the video, I got the idea of having MULTIPLE LAY LOCATIONS which I could take women to do I can ya e some variety to conserve my reputation a bit. Having different lay locations seems to be the one thing standing between me and sexing the world up.

Going through the basics was good as well as there were some things that I tend not to do as I’m running around asking bigger questions.

Just remember: if the basics aren’t handled well, advanced techniques fall apart completely.
 

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Re: GC big videos

Ash said:
It’s funny how the same advice sounds completely different depending on the level at which you listen to them.

omg this is so true. i reread all the GC articles every few months and they make more and more sense every time
 
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