Important lessons to remember
So I made a lot of notes. Here are a few that may be helpful and may need to be implemented soon
1. Don’t spend money on women as they don’t put out.
Seeing how tight money is, I need to keep every drop of it and spend it where needed. Since I don’t get sex, it makes no sense spending it on emotional bribery.
How am I justified: they’re stingy with sex, so I’m stingy with money
2. Chase Amante is a human being.
This was a shocker for me. I went through an article speaking about high maintenance women and Chase spoke about how the girl he was dating overreacted towards him when she perceived the slightest hint of imagined weakness. Sure, he handled it like a pro, but what I took from it is the fact that he isn’t immune to wildcards or drama. He gets problems as well. Difference is that he knows how to deal with them.
I’ve always placed him, the authors and the tribal elders (well, actually everybody who isn’t me) up on a god-like pedestal regarding their success levels. I need to stop this.
How I compare myself to chase now: I suck at relationships and getting laid. He knows how to get both. Thus, he can give good advice.
This mindset will help me pay attention to the right parts of everyone, rather than bowing down to their superiority and wasting time through that. Having an inferiority mindset could be hindering me from progressing in my seduction level.
3. Have a date, condom and hotel budget.
This is the only time when I’ll spend money on women as this is part of me running my game. Once I get really good at sex, then I can try to fuck women for free from my student accommodation (rather than a fancy place)
4. Always act like a lover
Treat everyone like a girlfriend. Mass cold approaching is good, but mass flirting is needed in order to achieve mass fucking. Acting like a lover all the time makes the flirting seem congruent and makes the lover personality a part of your being.
5. I’m not motivated by one scarring moment, I’m scarred everyday
Most players tend to be heartbroken by one girl and then end up playing girls in reaction to the trauma. The way I see it, I’m scarred everyday as I’m rejected by women left, right and center. Even as I’ve become more advanced than I was in high school, women that I crush on still reject me. Constantly leaving me heartbroken. If that’s not a formula for an emotionally closed off player, I have no idea what is. So, I’ll just hold society responsible for this psychological issue (if it is one in the first place)
6. Psychological problems to resolve:
6.1. An emotionally distant father has left me with the need to parent myself where he has failed.
6.2. My feelings of failure towards my little sister left me feeling unworthy of being in a leadership position
6.3. The theme of the day is pretty much family trauma. As it seems that because of the foundations that started the family, it seems that each member fucked each other member up in some way, shape or form. The damaged family leaving scars that run deep within me. I’ll need to tackle each and every single one of them. This is important for health reasons, to progress in my pickup career, as well as for dominance (I.e on the dominance hierarchy, in my perspective, more psychologically healthy people seem to be on the top on average)
7. Need to ask the board about the nice liar
Women seem to want to be lied to for plausible deniability. However, most guys that do this tend to be looked at as jerks. So will being a nice guy help avoid this, or is being seen as an asshole part of the game?
So I made a lot of notes. Here are a few that may be helpful and may need to be implemented soon
1. Don’t spend money on women as they don’t put out.
Seeing how tight money is, I need to keep every drop of it and spend it where needed. Since I don’t get sex, it makes no sense spending it on emotional bribery.
How am I justified: they’re stingy with sex, so I’m stingy with money
2. Chase Amante is a human being.
This was a shocker for me. I went through an article speaking about high maintenance women and Chase spoke about how the girl he was dating overreacted towards him when she perceived the slightest hint of imagined weakness. Sure, he handled it like a pro, but what I took from it is the fact that he isn’t immune to wildcards or drama. He gets problems as well. Difference is that he knows how to deal with them.
I’ve always placed him, the authors and the tribal elders (well, actually everybody who isn’t me) up on a god-like pedestal regarding their success levels. I need to stop this.
How I compare myself to chase now: I suck at relationships and getting laid. He knows how to get both. Thus, he can give good advice.
This mindset will help me pay attention to the right parts of everyone, rather than bowing down to their superiority and wasting time through that. Having an inferiority mindset could be hindering me from progressing in my seduction level.
3. Have a date, condom and hotel budget.
This is the only time when I’ll spend money on women as this is part of me running my game. Once I get really good at sex, then I can try to fuck women for free from my student accommodation (rather than a fancy place)
4. Always act like a lover
Treat everyone like a girlfriend. Mass cold approaching is good, but mass flirting is needed in order to achieve mass fucking. Acting like a lover all the time makes the flirting seem congruent and makes the lover personality a part of your being.
5. I’m not motivated by one scarring moment, I’m scarred everyday
Most players tend to be heartbroken by one girl and then end up playing girls in reaction to the trauma. The way I see it, I’m scarred everyday as I’m rejected by women left, right and center. Even as I’ve become more advanced than I was in high school, women that I crush on still reject me. Constantly leaving me heartbroken. If that’s not a formula for an emotionally closed off player, I have no idea what is. So, I’ll just hold society responsible for this psychological issue (if it is one in the first place)
6. Psychological problems to resolve:
6.1. An emotionally distant father has left me with the need to parent myself where he has failed.
6.2. My feelings of failure towards my little sister left me feeling unworthy of being in a leadership position
6.3. The theme of the day is pretty much family trauma. As it seems that because of the foundations that started the family, it seems that each member fucked each other member up in some way, shape or form. The damaged family leaving scars that run deep within me. I’ll need to tackle each and every single one of them. This is important for health reasons, to progress in my pickup career, as well as for dominance (I.e on the dominance hierarchy, in my perspective, more psychologically healthy people seem to be on the top on average)
7. Need to ask the board about the nice liar
Women seem to want to be lied to for plausible deniability. However, most guys that do this tend to be looked at as jerks. So will being a nice guy help avoid this, or is being seen as an asshole part of the game?
Time for a reboot
In this post Fuck this made me think over why girls that are down to fuck seem to not be that way with me. After scavenging girlschase I have found a few articles that have revealed to me that I wasn’t giving off lover values. I was merely being a lot more outgoing as I talk to people more frequently and am constantly working on my game. As for my lover qualities, I have fucked that up by:
1. Being awkward. One thing that anime has taught me is that quirks can be lovable. I used this knowledge to give me confidence to keep pushing for some kind of relationship with people. I need to put my awkwardness behind me. There are some actions that I do that are totally avoidable and completely unnecessary. I’ll worry about my unforseeable awkward tendencies as they come. For now, I need to purge the existing ones out.
2. Becoming everybody’s friend. Perhaps I can work around this somehow and gain sex through social circle game. Not sure how possible that is as I seek casual sex. I always thought that social circle game was for relationships exclusively. Need to check that out.
But after reading a post I lost, stating that girls tend to be ashamed of introducing their lovers to their parents or friends, I figured that I was a bit away from being one. As I’m an angel.
3. Need to Flirt more. I don’t flirt with people. Need to flirt more.
4. I don’t believe in God anymore. Everyone still thinks I do. Soooooo, that’s a thing.
Thinking about how I can break the news without raising red flags. Otherwise I’ll just stop churching and hope they figure it out via my passive indifference.
5. Not inviting girls home. I tend to tell people a lot that I don’t date. I tell them this so that they know that I don’t believe in marriage. But now I know that I can instead tell them that it’s because I just want to fuck. Not sure how to invite them though. Perhaps I can use something arbitrary as an excuse to get her to come over. Like a study session or whatever. Then, if I can get my kissing, sexual tension and foreplay game on, perhaps it’ll be enough for her to let me slip my dick in. And if I can get my sex god game high enough, then she’ll leave me with high reviews, perhaps get some social proof going, not go into autorejection, or become an FWB.
I’m generally just excited to get her sexually addicted to me. Having a power of getting a girl, who hates your guts, to falling madly in love with you simply because your sex is good....that sounds beautiful.
6. Treat every girl like she’s a girlfriend. This can help mask my FWBs and win me points with people. And also prevent friendzoning
7. Touch people. A girl made me aware today that she doesn’t touch me because she’s unaware as to whether I’ll be comfortable with it or not. Honestly, I won’t. And it’s probably the reason why I haven’t been touching girls myself, as deep down, I knew it. Pretty sure it’s a psychological issue, but if I want to get laid then I’ll need to get past it.
Luckily, I’ve seen how naturally it is for her when she touches other people. How congruent it seems with her personality and how she makes it look and feel so natural that denying it would be somewhat socially challenging. So at least I’m gaining some knowledge from my friendzone struggles.
8. Time to cold approach. All the people I know now are either part of my class or has friendzoned me. So, I’ll either have to meet new people or get out of the friendzone AND out of the provider role. It sounds simpler to me to just start fresh with somebody new, so that’s what I’ll do.
In this post Fuck this made me think over why girls that are down to fuck seem to not be that way with me. After scavenging girlschase I have found a few articles that have revealed to me that I wasn’t giving off lover values. I was merely being a lot more outgoing as I talk to people more frequently and am constantly working on my game. As for my lover qualities, I have fucked that up by:
1. Being awkward. One thing that anime has taught me is that quirks can be lovable. I used this knowledge to give me confidence to keep pushing for some kind of relationship with people. I need to put my awkwardness behind me. There are some actions that I do that are totally avoidable and completely unnecessary. I’ll worry about my unforseeable awkward tendencies as they come. For now, I need to purge the existing ones out.
2. Becoming everybody’s friend. Perhaps I can work around this somehow and gain sex through social circle game. Not sure how possible that is as I seek casual sex. I always thought that social circle game was for relationships exclusively. Need to check that out.
But after reading a post I lost, stating that girls tend to be ashamed of introducing their lovers to their parents or friends, I figured that I was a bit away from being one. As I’m an angel.
3. Need to Flirt more. I don’t flirt with people. Need to flirt more.
4. I don’t believe in God anymore. Everyone still thinks I do. Soooooo, that’s a thing.
Thinking about how I can break the news without raising red flags. Otherwise I’ll just stop churching and hope they figure it out via my passive indifference.
5. Not inviting girls home. I tend to tell people a lot that I don’t date. I tell them this so that they know that I don’t believe in marriage. But now I know that I can instead tell them that it’s because I just want to fuck. Not sure how to invite them though. Perhaps I can use something arbitrary as an excuse to get her to come over. Like a study session or whatever. Then, if I can get my kissing, sexual tension and foreplay game on, perhaps it’ll be enough for her to let me slip my dick in. And if I can get my sex god game high enough, then she’ll leave me with high reviews, perhaps get some social proof going, not go into autorejection, or become an FWB.
I’m generally just excited to get her sexually addicted to me. Having a power of getting a girl, who hates your guts, to falling madly in love with you simply because your sex is good....that sounds beautiful.
6. Treat every girl like she’s a girlfriend. This can help mask my FWBs and win me points with people. And also prevent friendzoning
7. Touch people. A girl made me aware today that she doesn’t touch me because she’s unaware as to whether I’ll be comfortable with it or not. Honestly, I won’t. And it’s probably the reason why I haven’t been touching girls myself, as deep down, I knew it. Pretty sure it’s a psychological issue, but if I want to get laid then I’ll need to get past it.
Luckily, I’ve seen how naturally it is for her when she touches other people. How congruent it seems with her personality and how she makes it look and feel so natural that denying it would be somewhat socially challenging. So at least I’m gaining some knowledge from my friendzone struggles.
8. Time to cold approach. All the people I know now are either part of my class or has friendzoned me. So, I’ll either have to meet new people or get out of the friendzone AND out of the provider role. It sounds simpler to me to just start fresh with somebody new, so that’s what I’ll do.
I AM A FRICKING GENIUS!!!!!!
Yesterday, a girl got me thinking as to why I am in the friendzone with so many people in school. Especially considering how adamant I was in the beginning of the year to being a loner for the sake of getting results and improving my marks. Then, I realized that the reason why I did this was that it was part of a plan I made in one of my older notes.
See, this campus is small, and thus, so is the residence. If I were to sleep with many women, people would easily take notice. Resulting in women going into anti-slut defense by being in my mere presence. So, I hatched the idea of befriending many women and getting them to visit me so that nobody could tell who's who. Is she a friend or am I sleeping with her?
Bonus points if I can get guys to visit me as well.
So yesterday, I developed the plan so I could enact upon it:
Phase 1
Befriend a lot of people and have them visit me so I can be seen as a socialite.
phase 2
Use the mask of my social status to sleep with women undetected. Be nice enough to make it possible to sleep with their friends if need be.
phase 3
Once I've slept with everybody that I can, use game to partake in on-again off-again fwb relationships with my exes.
I'm going to start making scripts that I can use to game women. As I believe that this is the only way for me to practically use the pickup techniques outlined on the site (chase framing, fractionation, etc). Perusing the site and creating scenarios in which I can apply them should help me improve my game rapidly. I suppose that is why me approaching even though I had no idea what I was doing for all these years is going to help me. Because I now have a more realistic idea of how women are likely to respond to me. And thus, this will aid me in my scriptwriting. Once I have enough lines, I shall approach women again, this time for the goal of sex. I have also adjusted a table in my room to make it more visitor friendly. Add a more positive vibe to it.
I will also keep my room constantly clean. up to now, I kept it clean from a day to day basis, but it has usually been clean when I'm indoors. Now, my room will be clean 24/7, and I have also begrudgingly taken the liberty of cleaning the entire house from now on despite my housemates being pretty sloppy.
On the bright side, there isn't that many of them, so keeping the unit clean shouldn't be too hard. As ego-slicing as this is, it's all in the name of consistent lays. So, I'll just have to swallow my pride.
I'm also expecting a lot of rejections, as I still believe myself to be a beginner/lower intermediate. So, I do all of this (the cleaning, the working out, the socializing tolerating, the risk taking) with the expectation of lackluster results. Though, I don't care about that. I just want to GET results in the first place.
And thus, the plot thickens
Yesterday, a girl got me thinking as to why I am in the friendzone with so many people in school. Especially considering how adamant I was in the beginning of the year to being a loner for the sake of getting results and improving my marks. Then, I realized that the reason why I did this was that it was part of a plan I made in one of my older notes.
See, this campus is small, and thus, so is the residence. If I were to sleep with many women, people would easily take notice. Resulting in women going into anti-slut defense by being in my mere presence. So, I hatched the idea of befriending many women and getting them to visit me so that nobody could tell who's who. Is she a friend or am I sleeping with her?
Bonus points if I can get guys to visit me as well.
So yesterday, I developed the plan so I could enact upon it:
Phase 1
Befriend a lot of people and have them visit me so I can be seen as a socialite.
phase 2
Use the mask of my social status to sleep with women undetected. Be nice enough to make it possible to sleep with their friends if need be.
phase 3
Once I've slept with everybody that I can, use game to partake in on-again off-again fwb relationships with my exes.
I'm going to start making scripts that I can use to game women. As I believe that this is the only way for me to practically use the pickup techniques outlined on the site (chase framing, fractionation, etc). Perusing the site and creating scenarios in which I can apply them should help me improve my game rapidly. I suppose that is why me approaching even though I had no idea what I was doing for all these years is going to help me. Because I now have a more realistic idea of how women are likely to respond to me. And thus, this will aid me in my scriptwriting. Once I have enough lines, I shall approach women again, this time for the goal of sex. I have also adjusted a table in my room to make it more visitor friendly. Add a more positive vibe to it.
I will also keep my room constantly clean. up to now, I kept it clean from a day to day basis, but it has usually been clean when I'm indoors. Now, my room will be clean 24/7, and I have also begrudgingly taken the liberty of cleaning the entire house from now on despite my housemates being pretty sloppy.
On the bright side, there isn't that many of them, so keeping the unit clean shouldn't be too hard. As ego-slicing as this is, it's all in the name of consistent lays. So, I'll just have to swallow my pride.
I'm also expecting a lot of rejections, as I still believe myself to be a beginner/lower intermediate. So, I do all of this (the cleaning, the working out, the socializing tolerating, the risk taking) with the expectation of lackluster results. Though, I don't care about that. I just want to GET results in the first place.
And thus, the plot thickens
Dat effort tho......
Self reflecting on myself, I realized how easy and absolutely permanent my attraction towards women is. How I could meet a new one and instantly want her and crave an emotional (and physical) bond with her. How I would let all of their extreeemely fucked up kinks fall unto me. How irrefutable my loyalty towards her would be.
And then I look at them.
How much effort it takes for me to get them to notice me. I understand that this is an unavoidable trait as the embodiment of sexual selection. But god damn....aren't I working a little too hard for this?
Anyway, it's good for me to recognize this mental block as it will prevent me from making any progress if I allow it to direct my strategic action.
The spark that made me think about this was how I decided to go to school so I could use the wifi to scour as much of the girlschase articles as I could. I told on of my housemates that I was going to school for some "studying" and he asked me if I was pulling an all nighter.
I never do this. EVER. However, it came to my attention that I would in fact do that for GirlsChase.
This kind of brightened me up a little as it gave me a clue as to how dedicated I am to this. If I were to leave the game, then I could at least leave in saying that I gave it my all.
But that would be far in the future. For now, I plan on studying each and every single article that is available on GC as though it were a course. Simultaneously, I will also ask every woman I meet to go home with me.
fun fact: I only realized while typing this post out, that going through all gc material before approaching was a form of procrastination. So I only just now decided to approach and start gaming again.
The line I was taught since birth to use to get girls: I like you, will you be my girlfriend?
The line I think I should use to get laid: You're very attractive (flirty touching).....let's check out (random excuse) at my crib
NOTE: The second line isn't a line that I would actually use. It is merely a very shortened summary of what I need to do to get girls to my house. And if I ever come up empty, I'll just revert to that line and just see what happens. The first line pretty much indicates how immature my seductive nature was. One of the cons was simplicity. So much so that I could use the line itself and get away with it everytime. Now that I have matured and my goals have been enlightened, I am in need of more complex game. But again, if I come up empty then I'll just use the second line as it is, fill in the blanks and hope she says yes. All so that I can at least say....I TRIED.
Studying all of the GC material available will take time. Months even. And so, I cannot rely on it at the moment.
At worst, I would have fucked up my entire reputation in this school from my actions. But my inactions will also garner me a fucked up reputation. So it's a lose lose situation. Only difference is that inaction guarantees zero results!
And on top of all of that studying, I still have King of College and one date to go through, and I still need to add my experience to the mix so I can further internalize the theory. So there's a lot of work to be done.
If my reputation becomes irreparable, then hopefully, I'll be able to move to another university, or I'll just use my loser seducer model (which still needs some upgrading)
Self reflecting on myself, I realized how easy and absolutely permanent my attraction towards women is. How I could meet a new one and instantly want her and crave an emotional (and physical) bond with her. How I would let all of their extreeemely fucked up kinks fall unto me. How irrefutable my loyalty towards her would be.
And then I look at them.
How much effort it takes for me to get them to notice me. I understand that this is an unavoidable trait as the embodiment of sexual selection. But god damn....aren't I working a little too hard for this?
Anyway, it's good for me to recognize this mental block as it will prevent me from making any progress if I allow it to direct my strategic action.
The spark that made me think about this was how I decided to go to school so I could use the wifi to scour as much of the girlschase articles as I could. I told on of my housemates that I was going to school for some "studying" and he asked me if I was pulling an all nighter.
I never do this. EVER. However, it came to my attention that I would in fact do that for GirlsChase.
This kind of brightened me up a little as it gave me a clue as to how dedicated I am to this. If I were to leave the game, then I could at least leave in saying that I gave it my all.
But that would be far in the future. For now, I plan on studying each and every single article that is available on GC as though it were a course. Simultaneously, I will also ask every woman I meet to go home with me.
fun fact: I only realized while typing this post out, that going through all gc material before approaching was a form of procrastination. So I only just now decided to approach and start gaming again.
The line I was taught since birth to use to get girls: I like you, will you be my girlfriend?
The line I think I should use to get laid: You're very attractive (flirty touching).....let's check out (random excuse) at my crib
NOTE: The second line isn't a line that I would actually use. It is merely a very shortened summary of what I need to do to get girls to my house. And if I ever come up empty, I'll just revert to that line and just see what happens. The first line pretty much indicates how immature my seductive nature was. One of the cons was simplicity. So much so that I could use the line itself and get away with it everytime. Now that I have matured and my goals have been enlightened, I am in need of more complex game. But again, if I come up empty then I'll just use the second line as it is, fill in the blanks and hope she says yes. All so that I can at least say....I TRIED.
Studying all of the GC material available will take time. Months even. And so, I cannot rely on it at the moment.
At worst, I would have fucked up my entire reputation in this school from my actions. But my inactions will also garner me a fucked up reputation. So it's a lose lose situation. Only difference is that inaction guarantees zero results!
And on top of all of that studying, I still have King of College and one date to go through, and I still need to add my experience to the mix so I can further internalize the theory. So there's a lot of work to be done.
If my reputation becomes irreparable, then hopefully, I'll be able to move to another university, or I'll just use my loser seducer model (which still needs some upgrading)
I remember this post 
This is one of the articles I remember reading that I knew was huge. Right now I would say it remains as one of the elite articles on GC:
How to Get First-Date Sex with Girls on Every Date
If you're looking for a shit ton of urls to related articles, then this is the one. It even tells you how they are related to each other.
Although there are a few topics missing there, it's still a behemoth in terms of content. So I'd say it's a good one to bookmark
This is one of the articles I remember reading that I knew was huge. Right now I would say it remains as one of the elite articles on GC:
How to Get First-Date Sex with Girls on Every Date
If you're looking for a shit ton of urls to related articles, then this is the one. It even tells you how they are related to each other.
Although there are a few topics missing there, it's still a behemoth in terms of content. So I'd say it's a good one to bookmark
Health, depression and money
First post is about my seriousness over my health.
I have decided to prioritize finding a diet that is beneficial to my health AND reasonable happiness.
I noticed that the comfort food I crave for masks my existential pessimism and seems to be a crutch I use for my everyday happiness. So I need to either find a way around that or accept the crippling depression that ensues from my overanalsis of my life.
So, I’ll be using up all money that I receive to work on this.
First post is about my seriousness over my health.
I have decided to prioritize finding a diet that is beneficial to my health AND reasonable happiness.
I noticed that the comfort food I crave for masks my existential pessimism and seems to be a crutch I use for my everyday happiness. So I need to either find a way around that or accept the crippling depression that ensues from my overanalsis of my life.
So, I’ll be using up all money that I receive to work on this.
Post 2: Extended bitching
The second post is my now normal trait: harping over my lack of results
Side note: It’s also one of the things that tend to trigger my existential pondering.
I don’t think that I’ll be able to get any kind of results within this school as my friendships with various women has already garnered me some form of successful pickup artist.
Problem: I know that if I start flirting and trying to pull women, my clumsy and inexperienced game will backfire on me and I will garner a new reputation of futile desperation.
Since social status has a considerable impact as the campus is small, a damaged reputation will guarantee failure for me.
Solution:
Fail
A girl who’s part of a social circle I’m part of told me about how desperate I sound whenever I mention my sexual ambitions (I figured it was safe to tell them because of how insignificant my status is in the school).
This made me realize that I’m pouring my heart and soul into this, for no results. Yet, paradoxically, if I put in less effort, my results will suffer even more. (What’s less of not getting anything? Losing what you have...)
So, in response to my inevitable failure, no matter what I do, I have decided to become outcome independent and to just hammer on with the destruction of my reputation and respect.
I think I will also rename my loser seducer model to the kamikaze model
As with every single approach I do, my social status shall deteriorate further and further. Until eventually I am seen as social leprosy and am avoided by everyone. And even then, what’s to stop me from approaching?
So I’ll know that I’ve reached ABSOLUTE bottom when I start receiving threats from men to leave their women alone.
And then I’ll stay like that. Permanently.
I think this sounds appealing to me because it justifies the sexless and dateless life I currently live. As then I would live in a life that makes sense. Instead of carrying consequences that seem to be coming from nowhere.
Am I terrified? Am I alone? Am I going to get hurt?
Yes
But, it’s the only move I’ve got
The second post is my now normal trait: harping over my lack of results
Side note: It’s also one of the things that tend to trigger my existential pondering.
I don’t think that I’ll be able to get any kind of results within this school as my friendships with various women has already garnered me some form of successful pickup artist.
Problem: I know that if I start flirting and trying to pull women, my clumsy and inexperienced game will backfire on me and I will garner a new reputation of futile desperation.
Since social status has a considerable impact as the campus is small, a damaged reputation will guarantee failure for me.
Solution:
Fail
A girl who’s part of a social circle I’m part of told me about how desperate I sound whenever I mention my sexual ambitions (I figured it was safe to tell them because of how insignificant my status is in the school).
This made me realize that I’m pouring my heart and soul into this, for no results. Yet, paradoxically, if I put in less effort, my results will suffer even more. (What’s less of not getting anything? Losing what you have...)
So, in response to my inevitable failure, no matter what I do, I have decided to become outcome independent and to just hammer on with the destruction of my reputation and respect.
I think I will also rename my loser seducer model to the kamikaze model
As with every single approach I do, my social status shall deteriorate further and further. Until eventually I am seen as social leprosy and am avoided by everyone. And even then, what’s to stop me from approaching?
So I’ll know that I’ve reached ABSOLUTE bottom when I start receiving threats from men to leave their women alone.
And then I’ll stay like that. Permanently.
I think this sounds appealing to me because it justifies the sexless and dateless life I currently live. As then I would live in a life that makes sense. Instead of carrying consequences that seem to be coming from nowhere.
Am I terrified? Am I alone? Am I going to get hurt?
Yes
But, it’s the only move I’ve got
Meat envy
I have discovered that I have attributed a lot of my manliness onto eating protein. I always knew that men ate a lot of meat. And thus, I did that a lot. I feel like this has been embedded into me, as well as the fact that men are bad cooks.
I have decided to fight back against both mindsets. The first one through not eating as much meat, and the second one by learning how to cook
I have discovered that I have attributed a lot of my manliness onto eating protein. I always knew that men ate a lot of meat. And thus, I did that a lot. I feel like this has been embedded into me, as well as the fact that men are bad cooks.
I have decided to fight back against both mindsets. The first one through not eating as much meat, and the second one by learning how to cook
Time to give up
Sooooooo, yeah, I didn't do the whole kamikaze idea since I'm too afraid to go through with that.
On top of that, a friend told me that 2 of the girls who rejected me were both very slutty around the period they rejected me.
This was slightly ego-crippling.
Yesterday, I decided to give up on pickup and everything women and decided to focus on giving myself a life that was worthy of jealousy. But then my decision was negated when I remembered a girl who I KNOW was into me at some point but then I fucked it up at some unknown period. This happened with quite a few girls, some whereby the fuckups where clear, and others where I still feel like I was completely in the right, though clearly still not effective somehow, or else I would have gotten results.
But, today disappointed me a lot when I was told about the slutty women who turned me down. This even drew my attention to women who are currently slutty right in front of me, but are still adamant on rejecting my advances.
Pretty sure that I'm on the edge right now. And normally I'd power through it knowing that I was simultaneously on the edge of a breakthrough, whether it would be practically or mentally. But right now, I still seem to be stuck in the same witless place as ever.
Anyways, I'll just procrastinate on my resignation a little longer and hope that the answer comes to me as I roam around for answers.
But god damn am I frustrated.
Sooooooo, yeah, I didn't do the whole kamikaze idea since I'm too afraid to go through with that.
On top of that, a friend told me that 2 of the girls who rejected me were both very slutty around the period they rejected me.
This was slightly ego-crippling.
Yesterday, I decided to give up on pickup and everything women and decided to focus on giving myself a life that was worthy of jealousy. But then my decision was negated when I remembered a girl who I KNOW was into me at some point but then I fucked it up at some unknown period. This happened with quite a few girls, some whereby the fuckups where clear, and others where I still feel like I was completely in the right, though clearly still not effective somehow, or else I would have gotten results.
But, today disappointed me a lot when I was told about the slutty women who turned me down. This even drew my attention to women who are currently slutty right in front of me, but are still adamant on rejecting my advances.
Pretty sure that I'm on the edge right now. And normally I'd power through it knowing that I was simultaneously on the edge of a breakthrough, whether it would be practically or mentally. But right now, I still seem to be stuck in the same witless place as ever.
Anyways, I'll just procrastinate on my resignation a little longer and hope that the answer comes to me as I roam around for answers.
But god damn am I frustrated.
Why lover strategy wont/isn't working
Should you be lovers or friends
This pretty much spells out why twisting a woman's roles doesn't work. So, my lover strategy is dependent on my ability to approach new women
Not good news, but it is progress. So now, I need to work on my resurfaced approach anxiety.
Should you be lovers or friends
This pretty much spells out why twisting a woman's roles doesn't work. So, my lover strategy is dependent on my ability to approach new women
Not good news, but it is progress. So now, I need to work on my resurfaced approach anxiety.
Need to post mah notes
I read along some of my previous notes in this journal and it feels like the posts just flew by my life without properly displaying the struggles I've been through. The fault is obviously my own as I wasn't always as consistent with my journal as I am now. However, I do have a lot of notes on my phone which need to be posted (about 700+) and can at least show my mentality during my seduction journey for the past year I think. I'll need to do this soon. However, my next post is my upgrading of my loser seducer model. I read the original model I posted and I had no idea I was that detailed when writing it. So I might not have to do much changing.
Or I might burn it all to the ground. Let's find out together
I read along some of my previous notes in this journal and it feels like the posts just flew by my life without properly displaying the struggles I've been through. The fault is obviously my own as I wasn't always as consistent with my journal as I am now. However, I do have a lot of notes on my phone which need to be posted (about 700+) and can at least show my mentality during my seduction journey for the past year I think. I'll need to do this soon. However, my next post is my upgrading of my loser seducer model. I read the original model I posted and I had no idea I was that detailed when writing it. So I might not have to do much changing.
Or I might burn it all to the ground. Let's find out together
The Loser Seducer Model 2
Okay then, here is the update to the loser seducer model. This resembles a memoir of everything that I need to strategically focus on. I’m mostly using it to help me get an overview of everything I need to do, as well as what the consequences will be should I attempt to.
Constants that will make me a loser
Emotionally shallow relationships.
Unrelenting romantic/sexual rejection
Fucked reputation (whether it’s from success or failure or both)
Temporary reasons that will make me a loser
These go in relation to my skills as a seducer. They also have an impact on the amount of rejections I’ll receive and the level of damage my reputation directly receives. As I’m exposed more, these should fade away
1. My bad sex skills (may do the most damage since sexual prizing is something I seem to be doing lately)
2. My bad lover process skills such as flirting, gaming, etc.
3. My inability to turn her on (lmr and anti-slut defence seem to be unbeatable without this)
4. My bad foreplay. This results in monstrous lmr as she realizes that the sex is probably going to be bad
All of this results in my lover value taking a hard hit, and since my lover value is what entices women to sleep with me, they’ll have no more reason to bang me and thus, failure is inevitable. (A workaround for this would be to display boyfriend value instead so that she expects you to be bad at sex. That way, when you do fuck her, you can learn and become better and better at it until eventually, you can worry about it no more).
Restraints (aka what shouldn’t make me a loser)
Don’t be purposefully bad with women
Always have value. Lover/boyfriend/friend value. Never be valueless to anyone (unless you don’t care about them either or are in a position where they must be nexted)
What makes the model bearable
The knowledge that it at least gives you a chance to get laid
You must make yourself happy. Don’t treat yourself like shit because it’s the convenient/ easy thing to do. Treat yourself, spoil yourself, and take care of yourself. Live a life that could be enviable to people. Whether it is in terms of self-love or luxury (self-love is better though)
Method
1. Fundamentals and body need to be god-like. This will allow you to not be a complete loser and end up invisible or seen as a nuisance as there will be attraction towards you. You’ll just be fucking up exclusively because of your process (which makes the reflecting after an interaction a lot easier). It will also provide you with some lover value.
2. Be good/exceptional at school, job, etc (I’d put hygiene here as well since I’m constantly cleaning, but that’s more under fundamentals although it feels very “9 to 5”). This will also prevent you from being seen as a complete loser and will provide some provider value
3. Rich social life to supply plausible deniability to sex partners. People will still assume that I am a player, they will just have no idea with whom. Will also provide social status and social proof.
3.1. Approach friends and new women to sleep with and new people to befriend and visibly maintain relationships with
3.2. Invite friends AND lays home
4. Honesty vs “monogamy”
4.1. Can be honest with woman and hope she’s sexually liberated enough to fuck with me (I call this one the kamikaze loser seducer) OR
4.2. Bribe her with stable, loyal relationship (or whatever she wants) and hope she lets me in then. (Haven’t come up with a name for this one yet. I think I’ll just call it conformity loser seducer, as even marriage will not be denied until the very last minute). Figuring out what she wants may be something I’ll have to do indirectly as she may try to keep it to herself as a power play.
5. Overall vibe
5.1. As a kamikaze: Direct, very flirtatious, success factor extremely low (at least as a beginner), intimately shallow yet emotionally rich (the reason why it is hard for beginners like me to pull it off)
5.2. As conformist: Direct indirect, romantic AND flirtatious (otherwise she won’t put out)
My fundamental goals
Greek body
will have to diet properly
will gym in the future
need to buy proper clothing
need to live a happy life (which may need me to budget and spend money properly)
Be financially in control
Processes
1. Treatment towards friends
Possibilities:
Best: Rich social life, girls say yes
Stasis: Rich social life, girls say no
Worst but won’t give up so I can get this: Poor/non-existent social lie, girls say yes
Worst but will keep fighting to get out of: Poor/non-existent social life, girls say no
An obvious social life is imperative in allowing me, as a known player, to give the women plausible deniability to letting me fuck them.
However, all of the women that I will be social with will also be potential lovers, so:
1. Don’t be too close to any of them unless I am in some form of romantic/sexual relationship with them
2. Treat all of them like they’re my girlfriend. This will further spark me into pursuing results instead of reactions as reactions will be a natural thing for me. This will also give them a preview into what they’ll get if they were to get with me. The difference between my girlfriend and my girl-friends is priority, time and placement of my value (as well as sex)
3. I may need to try to keep them wanting more, otherwise they’ll get used to keeping me in whatever position they placed me in. Not sure how I’ll do that, but I feel like timing has a lot to do with it
4. Don’t meet up with any one friend too often
2. Seduction processes (on each individual woman)
Kamikaze process (advanced with lower returns as a beginner)
Direct Approach
Flirt (should make a post about this)
Number close
Date (Skippable. Close to my house. I’ll just be flirting and turning her on. Also occasionally making some intentional mistakes with her so I can gauge whether I can move on with her or not, i.e all in the name of calibration)
Invite home
Foreplay
Sex
Sacrifices: reputational safety net, girls that would have said yes to sex if I had only gotten into relationships with them
Requirements: Be challenging, dominant(?), edgy, and aggressive, get investment out of her and establish a lot of lover value.
Conformity process (more guaranteed but includes a lot of sacrificing)
(unsure of this one as I am still terrible at relationships, but I’ll give it a go)
Direct indirect approach
Flirt (to show value)
Number close
Dates
(The dates and the online messaging will be my way of getting repartee and rapport out of her, as well as flirting)
(Romantic gesture when I realize that the next date will involve sex with her)
Date (with romantic gesture)
Invite home (if she says no then I’m nexting her to oblivion)
Foreplay & sex (again, if she says no then this will be a huge sign that she will never put out)
Sacrifices: lots of time, possibly loads of money, I will be A LOT more vulnerable
Requirement: establish romantic value (this may get me out of having to give her provider value, but if not, I’ll offer this up), I guess this is like being a friend she sleeps with?...I dunno. I am completely clueless.
Fusion
Doing mostly one strategy (kamikaze/conformist) while keeping an eye out for opportunities to do the other one.
3. How I’ll treat sexual relationship buddies
Throw as much value as I can to her in exchange for sex (though not too much sex as then she’ll begin to think that’s as far as I value her)
I want to give off lover value the most, but if I suck in that area too much, then I’ll focus on providing boyfriend value.
I can extend our sex time by getting into on again off again relationships with her (or not, if it’ll fuck up her mind too much)
My process goals
I think that tightening my fundamentals, tying to getting One date and trying to get King of college is my excuse for not going out there to get women, as if I do, then my crappy fundamentals/game will get me rejected. This is a catch 22.
However, I know that if I do go out there and fuck up, and then boost my value afterwards, girls will come running back to me. But if I don’t do anything, then I am guaranteed to get nothing as there are so many areas that need the man to take control in a seduction. I can never get laid accidentally or luckily or by her.
So I shouldn’t fear approaching. I need to do it. This will result in me totally wiping out on girls that I probably would have gotten with the materials, but it’s better than nothing AND I can at least add some value to the boards even if it’s a little bit or just the journey of my failures. People can learn from it.
GC articles
I’ll try to be keep in mind as much GirlsChase material as I do this. I can’t really list out everything I NEED to keep in mind as I feel like I’ll just end up retyping the How To Make Girls Chase ebook and respective articles in all of their glorious entireties.
So instead, I’ll just reference these articles:
1. How to get first date sex everytime (for the game)
2. Secret society (for the discretion, mental awakening and empathy towards bitchiness......been a while since I read it though. So i may be confusing it for another article))
3. How to get girls, the last post you’ll ever need (for the GC mindset)
Conclusion
Nothing much about me has really changed, so I expect a lot of failures from here on out no matter what I do. Creating the loser seducer model merely tells me what to expect, and not exactly how to avoid it.
I think that only experience will do that. Which is why I am so adamant in approaching even though I seem to be under the worst circumstances: being a beginner. One thing for sure is that, I will eventually reach my goals. And even if this model is riddled with flaws, it’s the only thing I can think of, and thus, it is a vital piece in my seduction career. And I will one day look back on it with gratitude.
For now, I shall put my teeth on the grind and keep up the good fight. Or, dare I say…
Keep the fire
Okay then, here is the update to the loser seducer model. This resembles a memoir of everything that I need to strategically focus on. I’m mostly using it to help me get an overview of everything I need to do, as well as what the consequences will be should I attempt to.
Constants that will make me a loser
Emotionally shallow relationships.
Unrelenting romantic/sexual rejection
Fucked reputation (whether it’s from success or failure or both)
Temporary reasons that will make me a loser
These go in relation to my skills as a seducer. They also have an impact on the amount of rejections I’ll receive and the level of damage my reputation directly receives. As I’m exposed more, these should fade away
1. My bad sex skills (may do the most damage since sexual prizing is something I seem to be doing lately)
2. My bad lover process skills such as flirting, gaming, etc.
3. My inability to turn her on (lmr and anti-slut defence seem to be unbeatable without this)
4. My bad foreplay. This results in monstrous lmr as she realizes that the sex is probably going to be bad
All of this results in my lover value taking a hard hit, and since my lover value is what entices women to sleep with me, they’ll have no more reason to bang me and thus, failure is inevitable. (A workaround for this would be to display boyfriend value instead so that she expects you to be bad at sex. That way, when you do fuck her, you can learn and become better and better at it until eventually, you can worry about it no more).
Restraints (aka what shouldn’t make me a loser)
Don’t be purposefully bad with women
Always have value. Lover/boyfriend/friend value. Never be valueless to anyone (unless you don’t care about them either or are in a position where they must be nexted)
What makes the model bearable
The knowledge that it at least gives you a chance to get laid
You must make yourself happy. Don’t treat yourself like shit because it’s the convenient/ easy thing to do. Treat yourself, spoil yourself, and take care of yourself. Live a life that could be enviable to people. Whether it is in terms of self-love or luxury (self-love is better though)
Method
1. Fundamentals and body need to be god-like. This will allow you to not be a complete loser and end up invisible or seen as a nuisance as there will be attraction towards you. You’ll just be fucking up exclusively because of your process (which makes the reflecting after an interaction a lot easier). It will also provide you with some lover value.
2. Be good/exceptional at school, job, etc (I’d put hygiene here as well since I’m constantly cleaning, but that’s more under fundamentals although it feels very “9 to 5”). This will also prevent you from being seen as a complete loser and will provide some provider value
3. Rich social life to supply plausible deniability to sex partners. People will still assume that I am a player, they will just have no idea with whom. Will also provide social status and social proof.
3.1. Approach friends and new women to sleep with and new people to befriend and visibly maintain relationships with
3.2. Invite friends AND lays home
4. Honesty vs “monogamy”
4.1. Can be honest with woman and hope she’s sexually liberated enough to fuck with me (I call this one the kamikaze loser seducer) OR
4.2. Bribe her with stable, loyal relationship (or whatever she wants) and hope she lets me in then. (Haven’t come up with a name for this one yet. I think I’ll just call it conformity loser seducer, as even marriage will not be denied until the very last minute). Figuring out what she wants may be something I’ll have to do indirectly as she may try to keep it to herself as a power play.
5. Overall vibe
5.1. As a kamikaze: Direct, very flirtatious, success factor extremely low (at least as a beginner), intimately shallow yet emotionally rich (the reason why it is hard for beginners like me to pull it off)
5.2. As conformist: Direct indirect, romantic AND flirtatious (otherwise she won’t put out)
My fundamental goals
Greek body
will have to diet properly
will gym in the future
need to buy proper clothing
need to live a happy life (which may need me to budget and spend money properly)
Be financially in control
Processes
1. Treatment towards friends
Possibilities:
Best: Rich social life, girls say yes
Stasis: Rich social life, girls say no
Worst but won’t give up so I can get this: Poor/non-existent social lie, girls say yes
Worst but will keep fighting to get out of: Poor/non-existent social life, girls say no
An obvious social life is imperative in allowing me, as a known player, to give the women plausible deniability to letting me fuck them.
However, all of the women that I will be social with will also be potential lovers, so:
1. Don’t be too close to any of them unless I am in some form of romantic/sexual relationship with them
2. Treat all of them like they’re my girlfriend. This will further spark me into pursuing results instead of reactions as reactions will be a natural thing for me. This will also give them a preview into what they’ll get if they were to get with me. The difference between my girlfriend and my girl-friends is priority, time and placement of my value (as well as sex)
3. I may need to try to keep them wanting more, otherwise they’ll get used to keeping me in whatever position they placed me in. Not sure how I’ll do that, but I feel like timing has a lot to do with it
4. Don’t meet up with any one friend too often
2. Seduction processes (on each individual woman)
Kamikaze process (advanced with lower returns as a beginner)
Direct Approach
Flirt (should make a post about this)
Number close
Date (Skippable. Close to my house. I’ll just be flirting and turning her on. Also occasionally making some intentional mistakes with her so I can gauge whether I can move on with her or not, i.e all in the name of calibration)
Invite home
Foreplay
Sex
Sacrifices: reputational safety net, girls that would have said yes to sex if I had only gotten into relationships with them
Requirements: Be challenging, dominant(?), edgy, and aggressive, get investment out of her and establish a lot of lover value.
Conformity process (more guaranteed but includes a lot of sacrificing)
(unsure of this one as I am still terrible at relationships, but I’ll give it a go)
Direct indirect approach
Flirt (to show value)
Number close
Dates
(The dates and the online messaging will be my way of getting repartee and rapport out of her, as well as flirting)
(Romantic gesture when I realize that the next date will involve sex with her)
Date (with romantic gesture)
Invite home (if she says no then I’m nexting her to oblivion)
Foreplay & sex (again, if she says no then this will be a huge sign that she will never put out)
Sacrifices: lots of time, possibly loads of money, I will be A LOT more vulnerable
Requirement: establish romantic value (this may get me out of having to give her provider value, but if not, I’ll offer this up), I guess this is like being a friend she sleeps with?...I dunno. I am completely clueless.
Fusion
Doing mostly one strategy (kamikaze/conformist) while keeping an eye out for opportunities to do the other one.
3. How I’ll treat sexual relationship buddies
Throw as much value as I can to her in exchange for sex (though not too much sex as then she’ll begin to think that’s as far as I value her)
I want to give off lover value the most, but if I suck in that area too much, then I’ll focus on providing boyfriend value.
I can extend our sex time by getting into on again off again relationships with her (or not, if it’ll fuck up her mind too much)
My process goals
I think that tightening my fundamentals, tying to getting One date and trying to get King of college is my excuse for not going out there to get women, as if I do, then my crappy fundamentals/game will get me rejected. This is a catch 22.
However, I know that if I do go out there and fuck up, and then boost my value afterwards, girls will come running back to me. But if I don’t do anything, then I am guaranteed to get nothing as there are so many areas that need the man to take control in a seduction. I can never get laid accidentally or luckily or by her.
So I shouldn’t fear approaching. I need to do it. This will result in me totally wiping out on girls that I probably would have gotten with the materials, but it’s better than nothing AND I can at least add some value to the boards even if it’s a little bit or just the journey of my failures. People can learn from it.
GC articles
I’ll try to be keep in mind as much GirlsChase material as I do this. I can’t really list out everything I NEED to keep in mind as I feel like I’ll just end up retyping the How To Make Girls Chase ebook and respective articles in all of their glorious entireties.
So instead, I’ll just reference these articles:
1. How to get first date sex everytime (for the game)
2. Secret society (for the discretion, mental awakening and empathy towards bitchiness......been a while since I read it though. So i may be confusing it for another article))
3. How to get girls, the last post you’ll ever need (for the GC mindset)
Conclusion
Nothing much about me has really changed, so I expect a lot of failures from here on out no matter what I do. Creating the loser seducer model merely tells me what to expect, and not exactly how to avoid it.
I think that only experience will do that. Which is why I am so adamant in approaching even though I seem to be under the worst circumstances: being a beginner. One thing for sure is that, I will eventually reach my goals. And even if this model is riddled with flaws, it’s the only thing I can think of, and thus, it is a vital piece in my seduction career. And I will one day look back on it with gratitude.
For now, I shall put my teeth on the grind and keep up the good fight. Or, dare I say…
Keep the fire
Might be offline for a while
Break is finally here. So I'll be off for a week. I'll be at home, and since there isn't really anything to do with anyone there, I'll just be fixing my school books, as well as studying GC articles in my free time.
Although, I'll study the articles the most during December. That's when I'll be able to analyze every single aspect of the articles up to date in order to improve my game.
I'll keep my online presence low as my internet budget it tight. Hopefully, when I return to school, I'll have the balls to go kamikaze on everyone.
For now:
All the best!
Break is finally here. So I'll be off for a week. I'll be at home, and since there isn't really anything to do with anyone there, I'll just be fixing my school books, as well as studying GC articles in my free time.
Although, I'll study the articles the most during December. That's when I'll be able to analyze every single aspect of the articles up to date in order to improve my game.
I'll keep my online presence low as my internet budget it tight. Hopefully, when I return to school, I'll have the balls to go kamikaze on everyone.
For now:
All the best!
Giving up? (bitching vampire draining post)
Post is exxtreeeemely negative. Nothing of usage here.
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Break is over and yeah......came back feeling worse than when I left.
I read many girlschase articles over the break and I haven't gotten much out of it. I have gotten some new info that I have either forgotten or ignored. But I've mostly recognized a lot of it. This is bad. However, I may have the solution.
My personality.
I gotta end it.
Whenever I speak to people, I try to make my personAlity shine through. This is usually my way of trying to connect with the person and providing them with authenticity. However, after reading the articles, I have seen that I do actually do the things suggested on the site. The difference is the execution. And my personality is what's weighing down the process.
If this sounds insecure, it is. But it's also infuriating. As it proves that I do not know why these techniques work. I thought I did, but clearly I still have a long way to go. And that's the problem. As I had a long way to go back when I started out. I feel like I'm still in the same place, except now I understand the pickup lingo on the internet.
I felt real bad when I thought that me being me is so rejected by society, that even adding effective game to it is still not enough.
So I have decided to just focus on the game and not show any part of me. No matter how hard it is.
to take it even further:
I have recently (not recently, but it feels that way) gotten rid of my religious faith. I have grown conscious enough to see through it. The problem, is that it's absence may be affecting me more than anticipated. But the main concern is that I see great parallels between the faith I had for my god, and also the faith I had that I could change into a better man. One who is socially astute, romantically capable and internally sound.
But I always felt that stinging denial that suggested that this was impossible.
To make matters worse, I feel like my mind is slipping.
My need to contain myself and act in a manner that will have no negative social consequences has left me feeling like everything I'm doing is wrong, and the slightest movement will curveball me straight down the social hierarchy. I also feel like I could lose it at some point. Like at any second I could just break down and do something incredibly stupid in a blurry fit. These only last for a second. So if I do it, I'll be lucid enough fast enough to see everybody's negative reaction towards it, yet slow enough to not prevent/save myself from doing it.
And then afterwards, I'd criticize myself uncontrollably like I always do for an eternity so long that it feels permanent and irredeemable. It hurts too much.
I had decided to quit the world of seduction. As I can't seem to keep up no matter what I do. I was going to make a post about how cornered I felt (still do). But then I read 2 of Grand Pooba's early lay reports. They seemed to be from an era before he was a tribal elder. I read them and they were a combination of cringe and triumph.
They were soothing.
I read them recognizing the parts where he was fucking up and where he was making the right moves. I think a part of it was his writing style as well as it was really easy to follow and be invested in. I recognized a few mistakes that I also used to (and sometimes still) make.
It was encouraging.
I also watched the 40 min video for One Date, and it solidified the idea that all I need is a process that works.
I still feel like the seduction world isn't for me as I have to make a shit ton of effort to achieve literally anything. Introversion and religion seem to have formulated a big part of me. I can dismantle one, but not both simultaneously....Still....this seems to be the challenge that I am faced with.
It's not like I have a choice.
I really hope that this is that moment you see in movies in which the hero is beaten and battered beyond repair. Yet, because of his unbreakable determination, he manages to reach a level of power he never even dreamed of.
Signs that indicate I may actually achieve great things is
1. Me scouting the internet for socializing advice for years. I don't know how I found out, but I knew that it was a huge joke seeking dating advice from anyone. I still did that with friends, and secretly on the internet. I now feel as though everybody does it (simply so I don't have the illusion of competitive advantage) but that mockery is still a huge thing.
2. Me rejecting marriage. The divorce laws being as crippling as they are, and divorce rates being as high as they have always been, I have left the marrying dream to the wind. I have yet to meet a real life person expressing the same idea with me. This is a huge disadvantage in the seduction world as a beginner, but can be a big advantage in other areas such as independence, aiding in taking women off the pedestal and safety from divorce rape.
3. My frustratingly intense admiration towards women. I don't know why,if it's insecurity, induced psychological issues, or my body overdoing the advice of Zan Perrion, but I have an intense love towards them. I'm entranced by everything about them. I feel like this is adding a lot to my frustrations and I need to pull back on it. But I hesitate in doing this as I feel it could help me a lot in the seduction world, and possibly outside of it. This can launch me deep into advanced territory.
4. My rejection of academics. I have been doing pretty badly in my academics for a few years now. In my mission to socialize better, I abandoned it slightly. I have to say, that it was a bit profound for me as I was deeply embedded into my school career. If I had carried on the way I did, not only would I have had terrible social skills now, but my ONLY strength, everything else being a weakness, would have been my work ethic. I have lost that, but after abandoning my seduction career, I will work to get it back.
5. My rejection of everything. Looking back at my life, people have given me a mountain sized shit pile of bad advice in comparison to the good. This has gotten me used to being on my own and living against the mainstream world. This will help me a lot.
6. Rejection of religion. A pretty hard thing to do considering the after effects. However, one thing it has in common with my other accomplishments is that it grounded me to reality. Something which I hold in very high regard (even though I tend to daydream a lot).
7. High achievement. There was a period in time in which I mastered a few games in which I had to outwit my opponents. I got good at the game because I played it a lot in school. This mastery mirrors a lot of other stuff that I mastered in my life as well. The exaggerated time spent losing so you can learn the game, the feeling of actually being part of the game and gradually becoming less of an easy target, the switch into a technical mindset as you aim for an advanced level, the glee from getting a few winning streaks here and there as inconsistent as they may be, the relaxation that comes from mastery, as the advanced techniques become so embalmed into you, that you don't even consciously understand what losing used to feel like. It offers a way for me to gauge when I'm making progress and when I'm not.
I suppose I'm trying to motivate myself into staying in the game, just like how a lot of me is still trying to convince myself that god is real. That there is still hope and that I shouldn't give up yet. I'm not going to make any hard choices like deleting my account or anything. But I still have a strong "this is it" sensation within me.
What would my next move be:
One date
The video (and seeing that it was under production since the early days of the site) has at least succeeded in making me realize that this is Chase's memento on all things seduction. Something he would be proud to leave the pickup artistry community if he were to retire. If anything has at least a chance at helping me, it would be that. As strenuous as scrambling money for it will be, I still believe in the site as it helped me break my virginity (even though my personality almost fucked it up). No doubt there. So even if One date is a fruitless endeavor for me, I still want to contribute to it, as the site can do immense good for others. I want to start contributing to things that I believe in, and GirlsChase is definitely at the top of the list.
I plan on studying the GC articles in intricate detail over the year end holidays so I can formulate a process which I can ruthlessly follow.
I won't put my heart in this anymore. I'll feed people the illusions they project onto me. No need for any remorse anymore.
Post is exxtreeeemely negative. Nothing of usage here.
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Break is over and yeah......came back feeling worse than when I left.
I read many girlschase articles over the break and I haven't gotten much out of it. I have gotten some new info that I have either forgotten or ignored. But I've mostly recognized a lot of it. This is bad. However, I may have the solution.
My personality.
I gotta end it.
Whenever I speak to people, I try to make my personAlity shine through. This is usually my way of trying to connect with the person and providing them with authenticity. However, after reading the articles, I have seen that I do actually do the things suggested on the site. The difference is the execution. And my personality is what's weighing down the process.
If this sounds insecure, it is. But it's also infuriating. As it proves that I do not know why these techniques work. I thought I did, but clearly I still have a long way to go. And that's the problem. As I had a long way to go back when I started out. I feel like I'm still in the same place, except now I understand the pickup lingo on the internet.
I felt real bad when I thought that me being me is so rejected by society, that even adding effective game to it is still not enough.
So I have decided to just focus on the game and not show any part of me. No matter how hard it is.
to take it even further:
I have recently (not recently, but it feels that way) gotten rid of my religious faith. I have grown conscious enough to see through it. The problem, is that it's absence may be affecting me more than anticipated. But the main concern is that I see great parallels between the faith I had for my god, and also the faith I had that I could change into a better man. One who is socially astute, romantically capable and internally sound.
But I always felt that stinging denial that suggested that this was impossible.
To make matters worse, I feel like my mind is slipping.
My need to contain myself and act in a manner that will have no negative social consequences has left me feeling like everything I'm doing is wrong, and the slightest movement will curveball me straight down the social hierarchy. I also feel like I could lose it at some point. Like at any second I could just break down and do something incredibly stupid in a blurry fit. These only last for a second. So if I do it, I'll be lucid enough fast enough to see everybody's negative reaction towards it, yet slow enough to not prevent/save myself from doing it.
And then afterwards, I'd criticize myself uncontrollably like I always do for an eternity so long that it feels permanent and irredeemable. It hurts too much.
I had decided to quit the world of seduction. As I can't seem to keep up no matter what I do. I was going to make a post about how cornered I felt (still do). But then I read 2 of Grand Pooba's early lay reports. They seemed to be from an era before he was a tribal elder. I read them and they were a combination of cringe and triumph.
They were soothing.
I read them recognizing the parts where he was fucking up and where he was making the right moves. I think a part of it was his writing style as well as it was really easy to follow and be invested in. I recognized a few mistakes that I also used to (and sometimes still) make.
It was encouraging.
I also watched the 40 min video for One Date, and it solidified the idea that all I need is a process that works.
I still feel like the seduction world isn't for me as I have to make a shit ton of effort to achieve literally anything. Introversion and religion seem to have formulated a big part of me. I can dismantle one, but not both simultaneously....Still....this seems to be the challenge that I am faced with.
It's not like I have a choice.
I really hope that this is that moment you see in movies in which the hero is beaten and battered beyond repair. Yet, because of his unbreakable determination, he manages to reach a level of power he never even dreamed of.
Signs that indicate I may actually achieve great things is
1. Me scouting the internet for socializing advice for years. I don't know how I found out, but I knew that it was a huge joke seeking dating advice from anyone. I still did that with friends, and secretly on the internet. I now feel as though everybody does it (simply so I don't have the illusion of competitive advantage) but that mockery is still a huge thing.
2. Me rejecting marriage. The divorce laws being as crippling as they are, and divorce rates being as high as they have always been, I have left the marrying dream to the wind. I have yet to meet a real life person expressing the same idea with me. This is a huge disadvantage in the seduction world as a beginner, but can be a big advantage in other areas such as independence, aiding in taking women off the pedestal and safety from divorce rape.
3. My frustratingly intense admiration towards women. I don't know why,if it's insecurity, induced psychological issues, or my body overdoing the advice of Zan Perrion, but I have an intense love towards them. I'm entranced by everything about them. I feel like this is adding a lot to my frustrations and I need to pull back on it. But I hesitate in doing this as I feel it could help me a lot in the seduction world, and possibly outside of it. This can launch me deep into advanced territory.
4. My rejection of academics. I have been doing pretty badly in my academics for a few years now. In my mission to socialize better, I abandoned it slightly. I have to say, that it was a bit profound for me as I was deeply embedded into my school career. If I had carried on the way I did, not only would I have had terrible social skills now, but my ONLY strength, everything else being a weakness, would have been my work ethic. I have lost that, but after abandoning my seduction career, I will work to get it back.
5. My rejection of everything. Looking back at my life, people have given me a mountain sized shit pile of bad advice in comparison to the good. This has gotten me used to being on my own and living against the mainstream world. This will help me a lot.
6. Rejection of religion. A pretty hard thing to do considering the after effects. However, one thing it has in common with my other accomplishments is that it grounded me to reality. Something which I hold in very high regard (even though I tend to daydream a lot).
7. High achievement. There was a period in time in which I mastered a few games in which I had to outwit my opponents. I got good at the game because I played it a lot in school. This mastery mirrors a lot of other stuff that I mastered in my life as well. The exaggerated time spent losing so you can learn the game, the feeling of actually being part of the game and gradually becoming less of an easy target, the switch into a technical mindset as you aim for an advanced level, the glee from getting a few winning streaks here and there as inconsistent as they may be, the relaxation that comes from mastery, as the advanced techniques become so embalmed into you, that you don't even consciously understand what losing used to feel like. It offers a way for me to gauge when I'm making progress and when I'm not.
I suppose I'm trying to motivate myself into staying in the game, just like how a lot of me is still trying to convince myself that god is real. That there is still hope and that I shouldn't give up yet. I'm not going to make any hard choices like deleting my account or anything. But I still have a strong "this is it" sensation within me.
What would my next move be:
One date
The video (and seeing that it was under production since the early days of the site) has at least succeeded in making me realize that this is Chase's memento on all things seduction. Something he would be proud to leave the pickup artistry community if he were to retire. If anything has at least a chance at helping me, it would be that. As strenuous as scrambling money for it will be, I still believe in the site as it helped me break my virginity (even though my personality almost fucked it up). No doubt there. So even if One date is a fruitless endeavor for me, I still want to contribute to it, as the site can do immense good for others. I want to start contributing to things that I believe in, and GirlsChase is definitely at the top of the list.
I plan on studying the GC articles in intricate detail over the year end holidays so I can formulate a process which I can ruthlessly follow.
I won't put my heart in this anymore. I'll feed people the illusions they project onto me. No need for any remorse anymore.
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1+ to what songbird said.
I don't see the ruthless following of anything.
It's okay to be insecure because you are working to become confident. It's okay you feel like an outsider because of your familiarity with contrarian ideas and beliefs (that's what makes them and you different). But you can't reject everything and then expect to be accepted by others, let alone yourself.
These dark moments are what brings us to our greatest heights, know that this will pass. Use it as rocket fuel to start stepping, running, then sprinting towards what you want.
But you have to act. When and how you do that is up to you. I would recommend trying some hobbies or arts you haven't indulged in yet while simultaneously approaching with specific goals in mind.
Maybe that means take up One Date and follow the homework assignments, maybe it means developing your own plan.
Either way you should understand that not a whole lot you will do is going to be significantly beneficial until you accept your current state of being, understand that you are the captain of your own destiny, and make moves.
You have the hammer and anvil to forge your self and your life, never forget that.
Best of luck my friend.
Hue
songbird fog said:
Short and simple. I like it XD
Hue said:
Thanks for the insight man. It is indeed a lot to go through. But I guess that's one of the reasons why self improvement tends to be a road less traveled. As the truth can hurt sometimes. Hopefully I'll be able to use it to my full advantage as it wouldn't make sense to accept the cons and then give up without riding the pros.
Thanks for the motivation gentlemen!
Possible mental breakthroughs?
Okay, a bit has happened since my last posting.
1. I have built a strong case around me leaving not only my own religion, but theism in general and can now be confident in my stance as an atheist.
2. Caught myself thinking this bullshit:
Thoughts like these can (and most likely do) hold me back. There are other reasons as to why I approach less now, but that's worthy of an analytical post of its own. It's just something that I need t take note of as it can have a huge negative impact on my results.
3. Money......I have recently figured out that the reason why I tend to never reach my goals financially is because saving up for them is a challenge since the money I receive is only good enough for food. I can't really ask for more money as that is as far as our affordability goes. I always had a feeling about this, I just had no idea that it was as bad as I found out.
This is a huge revelation as it may likely be one of the leading reasons why I had this feeling of being stuck so often. I have decided to combat this by keeping my diet and spending as bare minimum as possible. Not necessarily to get an edge, but mostly because I have to.
4. I read through the 13 part (and continuing) story of Black dragon's history with women. It gave me a lot of motivation reading through it and actually being able to pinpoint principles that he defined differently, but still understanding them because of experience/GirlsChase.
one of the reasons why I push so hard to get laid in college is because I've always had the insecurity that if I couldn't make it in the biggest sexual marketplace in one's lifetime, then I wouldn't make it anywhere else.
Reading black dragon's story gave me a lot of ease in knowing that I could venture into online dating after (or even during) college. And I remember colt having made a book about maximizing results from there. So I can be sure to check that out.
These are some of the biggest revelations I've had recently and will likely play a huge role in my personal improvement
Okay, a bit has happened since my last posting.
1. I have built a strong case around me leaving not only my own religion, but theism in general and can now be confident in my stance as an atheist.
2. Caught myself thinking this bullshit:
Thoughts like these can (and most likely do) hold me back. There are other reasons as to why I approach less now, but that's worthy of an analytical post of its own. It's just something that I need t take note of as it can have a huge negative impact on my results.
3. Money......I have recently figured out that the reason why I tend to never reach my goals financially is because saving up for them is a challenge since the money I receive is only good enough for food. I can't really ask for more money as that is as far as our affordability goes. I always had a feeling about this, I just had no idea that it was as bad as I found out.
This is a huge revelation as it may likely be one of the leading reasons why I had this feeling of being stuck so often. I have decided to combat this by keeping my diet and spending as bare minimum as possible. Not necessarily to get an edge, but mostly because I have to.
4. I read through the 13 part (and continuing) story of Black dragon's history with women. It gave me a lot of motivation reading through it and actually being able to pinpoint principles that he defined differently, but still understanding them because of experience/GirlsChase.
one of the reasons why I push so hard to get laid in college is because I've always had the insecurity that if I couldn't make it in the biggest sexual marketplace in one's lifetime, then I wouldn't make it anywhere else.
Reading black dragon's story gave me a lot of ease in knowing that I could venture into online dating after (or even during) college. And I remember colt having made a book about maximizing results from there. So I can be sure to check that out.
These are some of the biggest revelations I've had recently and will likely play a huge role in my personal improvement
Offline journal
Hey guys (or just me if this is more of a diary),
I have decided to create an offline journal. A lot has happened and I have failed to record a lot of it. I figured that keeping an offline journal and then uploading my info online once I have the time and connection to do so would be a good idea. So I'll do that. Although to update off the top of my head:
1. My crush towards a girl intensified massively, and my pondering lead me into debating whether I should remain in pickup or just go full mgtow
2. A gay dude tried to sexually escalate with me and I got pointers out of it since his game was quite good
3. My research on calories and food yielded a lot of positive result. I may be able to cutback on some money even if I were to bodybuild.
4. I may have given myself a (large) false sense of progress by being active on the boards. Perhaps the offline journal really is a good idea.
Those are the main themes and everything that has happened to me is connected to that in some way. Not sure where I'm going next.
I'm just trying to make peace with everything.
Hey guys (or just me if this is more of a diary),
I have decided to create an offline journal. A lot has happened and I have failed to record a lot of it. I figured that keeping an offline journal and then uploading my info online once I have the time and connection to do so would be a good idea. So I'll do that. Although to update off the top of my head:
1. My crush towards a girl intensified massively, and my pondering lead me into debating whether I should remain in pickup or just go full mgtow
2. A gay dude tried to sexually escalate with me and I got pointers out of it since his game was quite good
3. My research on calories and food yielded a lot of positive result. I may be able to cutback on some money even if I were to bodybuild.
4. I may have given myself a (large) false sense of progress by being active on the boards. Perhaps the offline journal really is a good idea.
Those are the main themes and everything that has happened to me is connected to that in some way. Not sure where I'm going next.
I'm just trying to make peace with everything.