Saw some things you did with your texting, and you are definitely freestyling.
Even for acomplished seducers, freestyle can be bad.
I've for the most part stopped the glaze thing (or point something interesting out) unless it is something I genuinely believe to be the case.
Apart from that and not being able to keep it word-for-word because I'm texting in Norwegian, I'm still confused exactly what I'm doing wrong sometimes by freestyling.
Anyway when I started a few weeks ago I had never done online, I followed you guys like a braindead android and learned a lot, then I've calibrated it into my own style a bit more to hone in on congruency. Though I'm sure if I shared my conversations I get smack for freestyling, lol.
The right way of texting is to pick a proven structure and adapt
minor things to your personality and the situation at hand
I coud never text like
@Skills , and he could never text like me.
We have very different personalities, and that shows online not only through texting, but also pictures, body posture, vibe, etc.
Yeah exactly. Even though Skills says no to haha and emojies, honestly, I find that my natural online personality is just a polite and friendly. It seems more natural to me to do smileys and ask girls out politely and even a bit shy. I find just plain innocence works better than cocky funny demanding challenging humoristic (which can be taken the wrong way across text)
What we do similar is the structure: open > banther > soft close > hard close.
That NEVER changes, no matter who we are texting.
Yeah if I understand what soft close is, I suppose I've adapted this structure. My goto soft close would be "So, is it you who's going to be my new training partner?"
Then transition into getting to know each other before we can do that, etc. Then do Skill's hard close "btw you seem like a safe person and worth getting to know, it would be nice to grab a coffee. I'm available toomorrow next week if that sounds good for you."
If I take one of his texts and his banther and put into my conversations, the girl will look at my picture, look at my texts and think: "Who TF is this guy?". The same can be said of him.
Agree
Texting is part of seduction, you are showing a bit of you so she can pick some interest and put her butt in the chair in front of you.
If you say to a similing bubly girl that she looks serious, you gonna look retarded right?
So when you pick a piece of an individual conversation and insert it into your conversation, where it's a whole new context and dynamic, its gonna sound very strange!
Like you are cooking a lasagna but, in the middle of the recipe, you decide to change it to a chop suey rice.
This is basically what freestyling does to your conversations.
Still confused though, I feel like freestyling is the thing that adapts to that specific conversation.
Solution?
Keep
It
Simple
Resist the urge to change anything.
Minor tweaks are necessáry, but keep it as basic and as it is as possible.
And about how I'm doing. I feel the structure has given me confidence and I know how to get dates reliably now. This week I scheduled five dates from tinder alone, it's more of a logistic issue than anything right now. I'm a bit overwhelmed and exhausted from this and I'm even ghosting girls who I planned meeting at her place and I'm cancelling a lot not really feeling going on. I can't keep up with the messages and I've already a good number of women but only enjoyed one of them. Downside is I feel online is so risky since I immediately regret meeting a woman within the 10 seconds upon meeting her because I can get the vibe really quick. And then you're stuck for hours. That's why cold approach works so good for me. So right now I'm just forcing myself to go on dates, but I'm overwhelmed and I don't think online is really for me but I really appreciate learning how to do it, it's been valuable. The texts Skills provided are pure gold, and I'm starting to understand their underlying appeal so I can adapt easier.
One challenge I've been facing again and again is that during the conversation the girl is spiked up to see men but then when we schedule, then reschedule, and then agree meeting in like next week on Wednesday, I'm just silent and keeping up the conversation is a pain, and eventually it dies a little off because I feel everyone on Tinder is moving at 100 mph in terms of who they pay attention to.
Here's an example of what I'm doing now.
Me: Hi

(Comment: I sometimes do this because doing minimal gives her the opportunity to show high interest)
Her: Hi MV
Me: I hoped that we would match, MN.
Me: How are the guys treating you here so far?
Her: It’s been kind of bad treatment honestly.
Me: Yikes. A lot of creeps I'm assuming. I guess I have to have to take on the job of raising the bar a little.
Me: M, what would yours say are your two best qualities?
Me:(That has nothing to do with your looks)
Me: you*
(Comment: Human errors, not copy paste vibes)
Her: Haha yeah, there's a bunch of that yeah… hmm really good question.
Caring and kind I’d say are my best qualities. was harder than I thought to answer.
Me: Those are good qualities, I would have guessed one of them is honesty with people.
Maybe that’s number 3?
Haha why was it difficult?
Her: Oh haha yes I’m honest too, yeah I can take that as a number 3.
Felt pressured
Me: Haha maybe you don’t like bragging about yourself?
Her: Yeah that could be a reason.
Me: Okay for the next question – do you want it to be even harder or a bit easier?
Her: Hmmm you can choose.
Me: Hard again muahah.
How happy would you say your life is right now from 1 to 10, where 10 is the best?
Her: Hahah I’d say 7 out of 10 
But I also want to hear your two best qualities.
Me: Hmm it’s not 10/10 yet because you haven’t met me?

Me… sense of humor and … hmm relationship skills.
I see from your profile that you like weightlifting?
Her: Haha yeah there you go, it's because I haven’t met you yet 
There are a few more things I want to have in place but that will come with time.
Ohh relationship skills, that was interesting.
Her: Yeah I like strength training/weightlifting
Me: That’s great

and wow only 1 km away. Are you going to be my new training partner?
Her: If you behave yourself, maybe you’ll be lucky enough to have me as a training partner.
How happy are you though?
Me: Hahah if I behave? Challenging.
I’m 7.1/10 just to one-up you.
Nah, just kidding, I’d say about the same. I’m not unhappy, but I always feel I can improve myself and I miss the crew from my jiu jitsu club. I recently moved to Oslo
Her: Yeah I get that, where did you move from?
Me: [xxx], do you know that place?
Her: Yeah it’s nice, luckily not too far away. But what brought you to Oslo?
Me: To be closer to work, the office is at [xxxx].
Her: Oh yeah, what do you work with/as?
Me: I’m starting a job helping doctors detect dementia faster

btw M, you seem confident and like someone worth getting to know better, thought it would be nice if we grab a coffee.
I’m free tomorrow and next Wednesday if that sounds good
Her: Ohhh shitt so exciting!!
Yeah I’m up for coffee
I’ll be out most of the day tomorrow, and Wednesday I might be able to but need to confirm depending on my training this week
so I won’t know until the start of the week 

But I can let you know as soon as I know about Wednesday, otherwise I can this Sunday or the weekend after.
Me: So lovely (bad translation), this Sunday I can’t but I have no plans next weekend, so we can aim for that or maybe Wednesday if that works for us both
(scheduling)
I'm probably going to get attacked on this but at this point I'm already setting up a lot of dates with this approach so I'm getting more confidence to stray from the system when appropriate.
Mr Variety