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[Sophisticated Gent]

Hit the gym today for the initial training session. The great thing is I have lost 12 more pounds. I have dropped 18 pounds in the last month. 374 with 179 to go.

I don't know if approaching will go well at the gym. Everyone seems to be internally focus. I guess I will see.

 

[Fuck This]

Atta boy BDSC.

For me the gym is a sanctuary where can let my guard down and sweat and grunt and let it all hang out to failure.

If I want to progress I have to focus 100% on me and not on the people around me. That is not to say I don't talk to other people at the gym, but if I do it is off the exercise/weight floor.

Women really don't like being hit on at the gym. Especially when working out Don't be that Guy

 

[Sophisticated Gent]

TwoRocky,

I was hoping somebody would confirm my suspicions about the gym. There was like zero eye contact with both men and women. I am sure I will do plenty of sweating and failing. My primary goal is to lose weight without hurting myself to start out.

I talked to one of the young women at work today in a conversation that lasted more than 30 seconds. I have always find her difficult to get a conversation going with. It is like she never picks up her end of the conversation. So I decided to work more at it today. I made some progress. I found out she has a degree in business for the same University of did my MBA work at. I also found out she was a bartender and waitress before she worked at my company. I was surprised by this because bartenders are usually very talkative. I would think maybe it was me but she seems to be quiet around other people also. She has a nice body and a decent face. I will keep trying to pick up the conversations. If for no other reason than it will be good practice in dealing with someone who is difficult to get response from.

 

[Teparus]

In general, when assessing whether an environment is appropriate to practice as a beginner, ask yourself this:
"Is this environment anonymous?"

Ie, are all eyes on you the moment you speak? Does it consist almost exclusively of a limited selection of people? Are you likely to be remembered even after a short number of visits?

If so, don't approach there very often, if at all, until you're pretty advanced and know with certainty you can read social cues and control frames strong enough to prevent blowback. Unless, of course, you're perfectly willing to get kicked out...I guess if that's okay, anything that won't get you arrested goes, eh?

 

[Sophisticated Gent]

Haraklus I think this is a good point to pass along to all beginners. I went back to Chase's newbie assignment and it does go into location much. Thanks.

BDSC

 

[Sophisticated Gent]

Worked out again today. I lost three more pounds since Tuesday. 21 total.

 

[Sophisticated Gent]

I keep working out and eating better. I lost three more pounds for a total 24 pounds. I am also feeling better.

For the first time there were a few attractive ladies at the gym. Ok, so I can't help myself. I approached one lady at the gym. I was sitting on the chest press machine which faces the street. I see a ladies who from the distance looks good. Shes thin with black hair. She is moving slow because she has her little son with her. Yeah she's a MILF. I took her long enough to walk in for me to do two reps. I was resting when she was walking by. Though I am not supposed to approach girls in the gym but she was pretty nice. I convinced myself it was ok since she just got there. So think quick I said "He's a speed demon." referring to her son. And it went from there.

 

[Sophisticated Gent]

I'm working on my conversation skills. This morning I grabbed some breakfast at a small diner in our town. The place was busy and no place to sit. There was a guy at a big table by himself. He said I could sit with him. I sat and noticed he had on a FDNY cap on. We talked while we eat. I found out he grew up in Grinch Village in Manhattan. He had family member killed in the twin towers. His sister would have been in the towers but was late for work because of traffic. He is a chef and works at a restaurant in our town. He moved to our town because of his girl friend. The conversation flowed smoothly and he turned out to be a great guy. I offered to buy his breakfast but he wouldn't let me.

I worked out this morning. I lost 2.8 more pounds. since Thursday. I don't care for the morning workout as much as the evening. I feeling more worn out during the rest of the day.

 

[Sophisticated Gent]

This is note an approach just something that happen that stood out. I was out at dinner waiting in line to pay the bill. One of the cashier was bent down picking something up. There is an older guy between me and her. He says to her, So you are praying. Good girl. I don't remember how she responded but it stuck me as weird. I looked around him and when I saw her she reminded me of Cinderella cleaning the floor. So I said Hi Cinderella. Her face lit up and she laugh. So I finish paying her for my meal and I say goodbye Cinderella. She smile big and says thanks. It hit me that she like to be called Cinderella because Cinderella became a Princess. I am going try this again to see what kind of reaction I get.

Worked out again yesterday and today. Down to 362.8 lbs. 11.2 lbs in the last two weeks. Down a total of 29.2 lbs.

 

[Sophisticated Gent]

I have started changing my dress. The change in peoples attitudes is amazing. Wednesday I had on my grungy jeans and a polo shirt. I walk through a mall and got female heads turning the other way, some real snubs. Yesterday I work black jeans, medium purple button up shirt, and new shoe. At the grocery store I had one super babe do a double take and check me out and one woman said hi first. I also caught our receptions at work doing a double take to check me out. She also later on commented how she noticed I had lost weight. About five of the guys at the office have commented on how I look good. Today I have on tan dress slacks with an light orange button up shirt and the new shoes. Three guys in the office commented on how I look. One of the ladies for upstairs was being attentive and kinda flirty. My wife sent me an email this morning and commented on how I looked good. My attitude in the past has been to wear what is comfortable. Based on some of the fashion ideas on this website I just grabbed different clothes that I already have plus bought two pair of shoes. The shoes I bought for style which I never would have in the past.

Now the question is how long will the effects of the change have on the people I am around daily? I know that people outside my social circle will be more attentive. Do I gain anything from those inside? I will be watching.

My only regret is not approaching the babe in the grocery store. I had a little AA. She was a beautiful Arab woman. One I would classify as high end. I have got to start saying what the hell and approaching the high end ladies.

 

[Sophisticated Gent]

I know that putting my weight lose in the journal is not an interesting read but this is an important issue in my journey. That being said I weighed in at 359.6 last night. 32.4 pounds lost. 1.4 pounds since Saturday which is the first weekend that I lost weight.

 

[ray_zorse]

I think it's awesome to put your weight loss in your journal, very impressive stats man.

Would you mind sharing what you are doing to achieve this? My weight is a constant issue.

Ray

 

[Sophisticated Gent]

Ray,

I have done two main things. First I completely changed my diet.. I eliminated all junk food. I have reduced the carb to a low level. For example lunch today is a can of spinach flavored with hot sauce and a chicken sandwich. The sandwich is two slices of rye bread with 2 ounces of chicken and two slices of provolone cheese. Provolone is one of the lowest calorie and fat cheeses. That is 510 calories. I don't count calories before I eat. I track them afterwards. Yesterday I ate 1500 calories. For breakfast I had 1 cup of oatmeal and 1 cup of mixed fruit. This is 510 calories. I am eating fish, chicken, a little red meat, vegetable, fruit and salads. I am staying away from sugary foods. I am trying to eat mostly whole grains when consuming carbs. Surprisingly I haven't missed the junk foods.

Second I joined a gym and am working out 4 to 5 days a week for 1 hour per day. I do 30 minutes on the treadmill and 30 minutes on the weight machines. This burns around 450 calories. When I do the treadmill I set it at an incline which burns a lot more calories. You can walk and burn more calories and running on a flat surface. This is better on the joints of an old guy. After three weeks I am in much better shape and able to get around better.

GC is actually the reason I decided to lose weight. I have seen a significant improvement in women's attitude towards me with the wardrobe change and the weight lose.

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[ray_zorse]

Do you have a fixed number of meals at fixed (or approximately fixed) times? What about snacks / fruit between meals? Coffees? Do you plan your day's meals and if so when? What about shopping? Do you eat w the family and if so do you eat different foods? Do you prepare all your own food? Do you bring it with you to places? 1500 calories is very good. I was thinking of starting with a meal delivery service that offers 1800, 1600 and 1400 calorie options (from memory). Decided against it because I like flexibility, but the shopping and planning ahead is a huge issue since I basically spend my days putting out fires, haha well I need to plan my time better.
Ray

 

[Sophisticated Gent]

I eat three meals a day, breakfast, lunch and dinner. I try not to eat snack but if I feel my blood sugar dropping I will eat a light snack of fruit or a rice cake. I shop once a week and determine the foods at that time. We eat out on the weekend but make sure what I eat is good like salads or fish. I stay away from sandwiches and fried foods. I don't eat potatoes at all. I eat breakfast and dinner at home but I take my lunch to work.

A good way to know your calorie needs is to calculate your BMR at http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator. Then go to the page http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calcu ... -equation/ and multiply your BMR by your activety level multiplier. This gives you your break even calories needed each day. If you eat less you will lose weight. A pound of weight equals approximately 3500 calories. So if you eat 500 calories a day less than your needed intake you will lose 1 pound of weight in a week. Any additional exercise you do is subtracted from your calorie total.

One thing that may help with food prep is to do a weeks worth ahead of time. For example you can scrabble a dozen eggs and reheat them in the morning. This would give you 4 breakfasts. Fix a large piece of meat such as a turkey breast. It takes less time overall to fix large quantities instead of smaller individual meals. The disadvantage is it take a larger single piece of time.

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[Sophisticated Gent]

Update on weight loss now at 35.6 lbs. Down to 356.4. It is hard to believe I lost 3.2 lbs since Tuesday.

 

[Seppuku]

Hey Big Daddy,

Keep up the good work on weight loss!

I have my own history of weight issues... Maybe not as acute as yours but still. In 2011 I dropped my weight from 205 lbs to 170, in less than 3 months, just changing the way I eat. I did the Dukan diet back then and it was very efficient and motivating. Lost maybe 20 lbs in the first month. It was probably the most significant work I did on myself, and it changed the way people (and girls!) looked at me.

Recently I stopped paying attention to my diet and I reached 187 lbs again. No way I would let myself go back to where I was. I found the article by Eric Reeves on GC (Weight Loss For Men: 23 Tips...) very inspiring. Based on this, I did two things 1. skip breakfast, and 2. Zero Carb ketogenic diet (less than 30 grams of carbs a day). Scrap all the rice, pasta, bread, grains, sweets, all the junk food. It required me to carefully plan my meals, cook in the morning and bring my food at work, to keep total control over the diet. No beer, no hard alcohols, just a little wine in the evening. I achieved about 1.85 lbs weight loss a week, and restored my normal weight in two months. This diet was actually very easy to do, much easier than Dukan diet.

Again, this is without exercising, just changing the way I eat.

Anyway keep the motivation man, the result is very rewarding.

Cheers,
Seppuku

 

[Sophisticated Gent]

I kinda hit a stall over the weekend but was down to 354.6 last night. I switched up the work out some and started a little dead weight lifting. First I hit the trend mill and get the heart rate up. Then I did the weights and a couple weight machines. Then I went back to the tread mill. My heart rate was still up when I got back to the tread mill. I wasn't great feeling great when I got there but I felt good when I left. I shot the shit with the head trainer and one of the trainers for a few minutes. The trainer had a customer come in. As I was leaving she was all smiles and eye contact with me. Too bad she was no where near my type. Anyway it seems that talking with the trainers does up your social value.

 

[Sophisticated Gent]

The stall is over. I hit 351.6 lbs last night. This makes 40 lbs lost.

It still amazes me at the attention I am getting from younger women. Last night I went to visit my Dad in the hospital. Note that I was dressed in my workout clothes. Not the best presentation. The station nurse by his room was a young blonde in her mid to late 20s. I said hi as I went by. I stuck my head in Dad's room and decided to ask how he was doing. I went back to the nurses station and asked the cute blonde nurse. She said he was going back to the nursing home in about an hour which was great news. I told her that he was going to miss all the pretty nurses. I went to his room. I checked on him. He was sleeping and I couldn't wake him. This is one of his normal games if he doesn't want to talk to you. After a couple of minutes I decided to leave. One the way out I said to the nurse that Dad wouldn't talk to me and that was his normal routine. She said that she had notice this in him before. Then I noticed that her attitude had changed towards me. She was if full eye contact directly facing me. Her demeanor was much better. I definitely got the feeling she was open to progressing the conversation. I was really focused on getting to the gym so said good bye and she said see you later. By the time I got to the car I thought to myself I should have taken a couple of minutes to escalate and get her number. I am still having trouble believing younger women are attracted to me so I am not responding quick enough. My mind set needs to change to where I expect this. It is really cool so I need to go with it.

Note I am convinced that complimenting a woman on her looks changes her mind set towards you.

 

[Sophisticated Gent]

It happened again. As I said in a previous entry I am talking with the gym employees to gain social at the gym. Previously I had asked one of the young ladies to show me their Omega 3 product. She wasn't able to help me so someone else did. At that time I asked her name. On Thursday when I entered the gym she was at the front counter so I said hi A.... She said thanks for remembering my name. Ok so I thought nothing of it and worked out. On the way out I said bye.

On Saturday morning I go to the gym and she is at the front desk. I say hi and go work out. After I work out I figure this would be a good time to gain some social status. So I go over and sit at the smoothie bar where she is working. This is a two part increase in status because she is a worker and a cute blonde. I start up a conversation. We talk about what college she is going to, what her major is and that she is trying out for the track team and hopes to get a scholarship. She goes to make a smoothie for another customer and I enter my workout in my app. While I am sitting there one of the other workers comes over and ask if I need any help. I say no thanks. A.. says he is just hanging. So I go to leave and say goodbye. A..s attention level has now increased considerably. She says have a good day. I tell her good luck with the track team. She says thanks for coming in. I thought this was very generic and didn't fit the attention level. So I figured I am miss reading her.

Yesterday I am going to the gym and decide to let her chase me if she is there. If nothing happens ok. I don't see her around. I am working on one of the machines and she comes into the room. She doesn't see me and leaves. I get finished on the machines and get a drink at the drinking fountain. I head back towards the treadmills. I notice from a distance that she is working in the nursery. She sees me approaching and waves with a big smile. She then points me out to her fellow female worker. She is very animated. It is obvious she has been talking about me with her friends. I wave back and smile. I go on my way. No chasing on my part. I am thinking about asking her out for coffee the next time I see her. This would be more for affirmation on my part that I can attract the young women.

I am happy with the progress I am making. The level of attention I am receiving from women is up considerably. I am happy with the weight loss. I have stopped taking insulin. It is easier to get around. So far everything is going good.