Becoming sexier and more attractive is making things harder, not easier

[killerman]

I don’t know if you mentioned what type of compliment you give to girls already but from what I’ve seen guys do IRL is a few ideas such as below.

Also firstly stay away from being “nice” . Hot girls don’t want ‘nice’. They want to be turned on or aroused in some shape or form (imo)


a) give a total over the top compliment and break the touch barrier as you do it
i<Touch upper arm>- heyyy! OMG you’re so GORGEOUSSSSSS, how ARE you? (Said like you already know her)

This will probably feel like you are risking creepy / sleazy but don’t sweat it, you can do it day time no problem, I consciously try to ‘innocently ‘touch women all the time. and I do it pronto . It’s a basic non verbal signal ( “I like you” )
> See what happens next

b) give her a mega hard -Neg to try spark banter.
“Like, wow I gotta say,,, you must be , hands down the *ugliest woman in this place “ given with a big smirk on your face.
See what happens next with that one,
If she laughs , you’re in.
If not she doesn’t get banter and so what.

Do some experiments as whatever you’re doing currently is not working,

It's the same kind of compliments I used to give in 2015, 2016. Exactly the same but yet although I got loads of dates back then, the same compliment just gets me loads of flakes now which is crazy as I'm doing the thing that worked before but now it doesn't work anymore. Like Ok I still get the odd date but back in 2015-2016 when I was a complete beginner I was getting like 2-3 dates a week. That's why I'm now trying "I love your style" or "i love your vibe" as I'm trying something else, but even that doesn't really work either. In fact I'm getting even better reactions than 2015, girls are WAY more receptive and into me than back then but I just get flakes. One of the things I'm really focussing on now is teasing and flirting as that's the area i've always lacked in.

 

[killerman]

I just reread your original post.
If you are really getting that much attention looks wise .. I would theorise your problem may be you are too passive and way too nice somehow in the interaction and it contradicts your looks somehow in a big way (?). Like if you dress like a bad boy but interact like a choir boy somehow.

If you are indeed that hot looks wise , experiment with breaking the touch barrier . Big time. start being super handsy with girls problem step one is hold their Hand off the bat , give them massive OTT compliments , twirl them around say “ look at her ! She’s Gorgeous!” OMG I am in LOVE here! What do *I * have to do to get to KNOw you? Blah blah just make a spectacle of it,
the chicks should be both laughing their heads off AND wetting their panties at the same time for you. Try giving it OTT flattery energy , maybe watch some Russell Brand videos he’s good at that,

That makes sense, I guess my problem now is maybe that I'm coming off as unattainable so the logical solution to that I guess is to flatter the hell out of them to raise them up and convince them they have more of a chance. MORE compliments that are yes completely over the top like "oh look at you fluttering your eye lashes, you're so freaking gorgeous" or "oh my god you are the finest girl i've seen at the seafront all month".

 

[Brassfaced_Jim]

It's the same kind of compliments I used to give in 2015, 2016. Exactly the same but yet although I got loads of dates back then, the same compliment just gets me loads of flakes now which is crazy as I'm doing the thing that worked before but now it doesn't work anymore. Like Ok I still get the odd date but back in 2015-2016 when I was a complete beginner I was getting like 2-3 dates a week. That's why I'm now trying "I love your style" or "i love your vibe" as I'm trying something else, but even that doesn't really work either. In fact I'm getting even better reactions than 2015, girls are WAY more receptive and into me than back then but I just get flakes. One of the things I'm really focussing on now is teasing and flirting as that's the area i've always lacked in.

Honestly, a super hot guy doesn’t even need to banter that much - you want to go for vibe and sexual charisma . Plus physicality . Trust me on the touch barrier thing. Try Charles Manson esque intense eye contact and talking more slowly and seductively. You can do it all with your eyes and face at that level, banter does help it along tho,

maybe you are breaking eye contact and looking down submissively or something during the interaction and you don’t know it.(?)

what’s your opener /compliment

 

[killerman]

Honestly, a super hot guy doesn’t even need to banter that much - you want to go for vibe and sexual charisma . Plus physicality . Trust me on the touch barrier thing. Try Charles Manson esque intense eye contact and talking more slowly and seductively. You can do it all with your eyes and face at that level, banter does help it along tho,

maybe you are breaking eye contact and looking down submissively or something during the interaction and you don’t know it.(?)

what’s your opener /compliment

When touching her do you mean after I've opened her and she's really receptive? Like that girl I met at the seafront night before last, my perfect type, mixed race fitness girl in a sports bra and super tight gym shorts, after I opened her her face lit up like a christmas tree and she got up REALLY close to me and started firing loads of questions at me wanting to get to know me better. Looking back now that would have been the perfect time to escalate things physically. My opener was "hey just want to let you know but I absolutely LOVE your style" or vibe or something like that.

 

[Brassfaced_Jim]

That makes sense, I guess my problem now is maybe that I'm coming off as unattainable so the logical solution to that I guess is to flatter the hell out of them to raise them up and convince them they have more of a chance. MORE compliments that are yes completely over the top like "oh look at you fluttering your eye lashes, you're so freaking gorgeous" or "oh my god you are the finest girl i've seen at the seafront all month".

Yep .
My vibe (or used to be when I was younger and doing well ) was very sexual tones . My hand would be on them with some stupid excuse for it, my eye contact would be locked and my flattery would be definitely OTT at the start. And a lot of it would be in my voice tonality too - like borderline sleazy, And I’d be breaking the touch barrier and closing space between me and the chick big time,
My vibe would be “ fuck I think you’re HOT , looking at you is making me horny and I’m panting to fuck you - ASAP” try and dial ALL that up and I reckon you’ll be very surprised at the responses. It’s all Non verbal (no words) signalling tbh and quite powerful if she’s receptive. I had some amazing results back in the day.

I’m doing online game now and it sucks donkey dick cos all of that is stripped out of the interaction online

 

[killerman]

Yep .
My vibe (or used to be when I was younger and doing well ) was very sexual tones . My hand would be on them with some stupid excuse for it, my eye contact would be locked and my flattery would be definitely OTT at the start. And a lot of it would be in my voice tonality too - like borderline sleazy, And I’d be breaking the touch barrier and closing space between me and the chick big time,
My vibe would be “ fuck I think you’re HOT , looking at you is making me horny and I’m panting to fuck you - ASAP” try and dial ALL that up and I reckon you’ll be very surprised at the responses. It’s all Non verbal (no words) signalling tbh and quite powerful if she’s receptive. I had some amazing results back in the day.

I’m doing online game now and it sucks donkey dick cos all of that is stripped out of the interaction online

Omg I love this, yes that makes sense. To get that sort of vibe is it about feeling it deep down and trying to project it through eye contact and voice as well as posture? Like ramping it up and thinking these thoughts and projecting it big time on the girl?

 

[killerman]

Yep .
My vibe (or used to be when I was younger and doing well ) was very sexual tones . My hand would be on them with some stupid excuse for it, my eye contact would be locked and my flattery would be definitely OTT at the start. And a lot of it would be in my voice tonality too - like borderline sleazy, And I’d be breaking the touch barrier and closing space between me and the chick big time,
My vibe would be “ fuck I think you’re HOT , looking at you is making me horny and I’m panting to fuck you - ASAP” try and dial ALL that up and I reckon you’ll be very surprised at the responses. It’s all Non verbal (no words) signalling tbh and quite powerful if she’s receptive. I had some amazing results back in the day.

I’m doing online game now and it sucks donkey dick cos all of that is stripped out of the interaction online

Hypothetical situation: Would it have been good with this hot mixed girl from two nights back to when she was right in my face to put my hand on her shoulder and start stroking it while saying "wow I REALLY like your skin, feels REALLY good and smooth" or is it best to just project it with your sexual vibe?

 

[Brassfaced_Jim]

When touching her do you mean after I've opened her and she's really receptive? Like that girl I met at the seafront night before last, my perfect type, mixed race fitness girl in a sports bra and super tight gym shorts, after I opened her her face lit up like a christmas tree and she got up REALLY close to me and started firing loads of questions at me wanting to get to know me better. Looking back now that would have been the perfect time to escalate things physically. My opener was "hey just want to let you know but I absolutely LOVE your style" or vibe or something like that.

Sounds good. Yeah I’d place the hand on her upper arm as I said the first word of the opener “hey…” as if I’m trying to stop her on the street and ask for directions,

start thinking of what kind of funny “excuses/guises and ways you could start getting handsy. It’s risky and can be sleazy but if she likes your looks it’s a turn on.

so touch on the upper side of her arm like a lingering tap.

into the interaction using that opener you could say “hey yeah that gear you’re wearing is awesome .. what IS that brand? It’s a great FIT on you
Is that a Lycra blend ? << touch the fabric with your fingers like your feeling it (your really feeling her body of course) , let your hand linger and look her in the eyes as you do so >>

she should get turned on and likely laugh at the cheekiness of the move. It’s pretty ballsy,

another one I used to do was simialr
Wow nice jeans , they really are a great FIT on you (wink + smirk) are they ‘Nobodies ‘ Jeans ( that’s a brand of jeans) .. here let me check! ‘’then I would literally bend down and pretend I was reading the tag on the back of her jeans (just above her ass) and quite obviously check out her nice ass.
While she would laugh and say “stop that !”


very cheeky moves.

tbh as I reflect back now , most of your deduction will be non verbal and moves such as this . It’s signalling .

the most ballsy and basic non verbal signal or opener of all would be to just look at a woman and flash your eyebrows twice up and down , that pretty much says “ hey, wanna fuck me?” Every woman knows what that means. But that’s straight up sleazy,

start thinking and planning that way and do small experiments on and on,

 

[killerman]

Sounds good. Yeah I’d place the hand on her upper arm as I said the first word of the opener “hey…” as if I’m trying to stop her on the street and ask for directions,

start thinking of what kind of funny “excuses/guises and ways you could start getting handsy. It’s risky and can be sleazy but if she likes your looks it’s a turn on.

so touch on the upper side of her arm like a lingering tap.

into the interaction using that opener you could say “hey yeah that gear you’re wearing is awesome .. what IS that brand? It’s a great FIT on you
Is that a Lycra blend ? << touch the fabric with your fingers like your feeling it (your really feeling her body of course) , let your hand linger and look her in the eyes as you do so >>

she should get turned on and likely laugh at the cheekiness of the move. It’s pretty ballsy,

another one I used to do was simialr
Wow nice jeans , they really are a great FIT on you (wink + smirk) are they ‘Nobodies ‘ Jeans ( that’s a brand of jeans) .. here let me check! ‘’then I would literally bend down and pretend I was reading the tag on the back of her jeans (just above her ass) and quite obviously check out her nice ass.
While she would laugh and say “stop that !”


very cheeky moves.

tbh as I reflect back now , most of your deduction will be non verbal and moves such as this . It’s signalling .

the most ballsy and basic non verbal signal or opener of all would be to just look at a woman and flash your eyebrows twice up and down , that pretty much says “ hey, wanna fuck me?” Every woman knows what that means. But that’s straight up sleazy,

start thinking and planning that way and do small experiments on and on,

haha awesome lines and non verbals, I freaking LOVE it. And of course when you say these things you can do it with a really cheeky smirk right? I always find the smirk is absolutely better than a basic smile. Works really well. The look at them up and down deliberately is awesome as well. Will be trying these things out soon.

 

[killerman]

haha awesome lines and non verbals, I freaking LOVE it. And of course when you say these things you can do it with a really cheeky smirk right? I always find the smirk is absolutely better than a basic smile. Works really well. The look at them up and down deliberately is awesome as well. Will be trying these things out soon.

Makes seduction SO much more fun as well, and they'll pick up on it as well and it'll be super fun for them. Love it.

 

[Brassfaced_Jim]

Omg I love this, yes that makes sense. To get that sort of vibe is it about feeling it deep down and trying to project it through eye contact and voice as well as posture? Like ramping it up and thinking these thoughts and projecting it big time on the girl?

Yes.
One guru put it this way “ do you want to be friends with the chick or do you want to Fuck her?’ It’s a barrier to break down and get past imo, risking creepy and sleazy and sending out big “I want to fuck you “ signals with everything EXCEPT your words.

For convo you could use innuendo in words, seductive languaging, banter, plain convo, nice talk, talk about the weather whatever .

The whole conversation itself is just a cover to get close to her . !

What’s really going on is the conversation under the conversation . The subtext and ALL the other sexual cues you’ll be transmitting , like a raised eyebrow , sexual smile, twinkle in your eye, your hand on her body over her tight running top , just under her tit , checking out the “fabric” etc etc, etc
Heh heh heh!

for me I had to generate a pretty big sexual state in my body and do lots of visualisations and become a bit of a character firstly yeah. I think I was pumping up testosterone or something. And getting horny enough to get the balls to do it,

Looking at the chick in a sexual way and thinking about what u wanna do to her ought to do it.

 

[killerman]

Yes.
One guru put it this way “ do you want to be friends with the chick or do you want to Fuck her?’ It’s a barrier to break down and get past imo, risking creepy and sleazy and sending out big “I want to fuck you “ signals with everything EXCEPT your words.

For convo you could use innuendo in words, seductive languaging, banter, plain convo, nice talk, talk about the weather whatever .

The whole conversation itself is just a cover to get close to her . !

What’s really going on is the conversation under the conversation . The subtext and ALL the other sexual cues you’ll be transmitting , like a raised eyebrow , sexual smile, twinkle in your eye, your hand on her body over her tight running top , just under her tit , checking out the “fabric” etc etc, etc
Heh heh heh!

for me I had to generate a pretty big sexual state in my body and do lots of visualisations and become a bit of a character firstly yeah. I think I was pumping up testosterone or something. And getting horny enough to get the balls to do it,

Looking at the chick in a sexual way and thinking about what u wanna do to her ought to do it.

yeah yeah yeah like with the weather you can say "omg yeah I LOVE this hot weather, so warm but it's also a great excuse to get naked, hot, slippery and sweaty, my favourite time of the year" all said with seductive eye contact while checking out her massive tits, winking and a cheeky smirk while your stroking upper arm or lower back.

 

[killerman]

Yes.
One guru put it this way “ do you want to be friends with the chick or do you want to Fuck her?’ It’s a barrier to break down and get past imo, risking creepy and sleazy and sending out big “I want to fuck you “ signals with everything EXCEPT your words.

For convo you could use innuendo in words, seductive languaging, banter, plain convo, nice talk, talk about the weather whatever .

The whole conversation itself is just a cover to get close to her . !

What’s really going on is the conversation under the conversation . The subtext and ALL the other sexual cues you’ll be transmitting , like a raised eyebrow , sexual smile, twinkle in your eye, your hand on her body over her tight running top , just under her tit , checking out the “fabric” etc etc, etc
Heh heh heh!

for me I had to generate a pretty big sexual state in my body and do lots of visualisations and become a bit of a character firstly yeah. I think I was pumping up testosterone or something. And getting horny enough to get the balls to do it,

Looking at the chick in a sexual way and thinking about what u wanna do to her ought to do it.

do you find the girls who respond the best to your sleaziness end up being the best in bed? i'd assume the answer is yes because those girls would have to be sexually very open, which is what we want.

 

[Brassfaced_Jim]

I learned how to try this from watching a Brazilian player dude friend of mine in action. He was dead set the “sleaziest “ and ballsiest little Rooster of a guy I ever met.

very commanding and dominant also.
I wish I’d had recorded his voice on audio to analyse it. With his Brazilian accent his voice was very, almost snake -like . And he was like a snake with his moves . A very cheeky character. He did shit I had never seen before.

 

[Brassfaced_Jim]

yeah yeah yeah like with the weather you can say "omg yeah I LOVE this hot weather, so warm but it's also a great excuse to get naked, hot, slippery and sweaty, my favourite time of the year" all said with seductive eye contact while checking out her massive tits, winking and a cheeky smirk while your stroking upper arm or lower back.

You sound like you’re trolling me now almost. (?)

 

[killerman]

I learned how to try this from watching a Brazilian player dude friend of mine in action. He was dead set the “sleaziest “ and ballsiest little Rooster of a guy I ever met.

very commanding and dominant also.
I wish I’d had recorded his voice on audio to analyse it. With his Brazilian accent his voice was very, almost snake -like . And he was like a snake with his moves . A very cheeky character. He did shit I had never seen before.

Brazilian and Italian men are the best. Colombian men I assume are probably also the same. Who do you think have the best game/sexual vibe? Brazilian, Italian or Colombian men?

 

[killerman]

You sound like you’re trolling me now almost. (?)

No im not trolling you at all. More like the lightbulb has gone off inside my head and now it all makes sense. The fact that other people are saying it's ok to be so outwardly sexual means it's a case of green lights let's goooooooooooo. No seriously it's because it all makes sense. And if you're attractive not only would it be congruent with your looks but it's what women WANT. If they find you attractive then they'll want you to behave this way. It's totally logical.

 

[Brassfaced_Jim]

Maybe small chunk it to the hand on the arm and see how she takes it. I wouldnt wanna encourage breaking any consent laws . (!) Or going in too much too soon or too sleazy. She’ll indicate consent as you go by saying “ you’re so cheeky” etc shell ping back iois by changing her body posture to signal” I’m open to this” .

it’s all pretty much signalling to me after many years at it,

 

[killerman]

You sound like you’re trolling me now almost. (?)

It also makes seduction so much more fun as well. No more boring ass vibes and atmosphere.

 

[killerman]

Maybe small chunk it to the hand on the arm and see how she takes it. I wouldnt wanna encourage breaking any consent laws . (!) Or going in too much too soon or too sleazy. She’ll indicate consent as you go by saying “ you’re so cheeky” etc shell ping back iois by changing her body posture to signal” I’m open to this” .

it’s all pretty much signalling to me after many years at it,

If there are any non verbals i need to work on it's eye contact and voice. I know I need to work on those. I think my posture and walk is pretty decent, but my voice and eye contact needs work.