FR Campus daygame field report

[average_daygamer]

Now, I usually would lump campus approaches into an overall daygame field report but today I went to the campus to game exclusively as a break from the highstreet.

The benefit of the campus is, I know all the girls are 18+, so that removes a common obstacle to approaching in the highstreet, where there is a lack of commitment and uncertainty which translates into a weak approach.

As I am waiting at the bus station for the bus that goes to the campus, I see a student waiting there. I decide I need a warmup so I ask her which uni bus goes first, but from her talking I can hear she has an accent, so I ask about it, turns out she's from Amsterdam.

I have been there so I elaborate by telling her it's a very beautiful city with the architecture and canals etc. I ask her how she likes our small city and she says it's pleasant and quiet. Two buses come and I get on the first bus. She remains waiting, maybe she got on the other bus. This wasn't an official approach, just a warmup.

When I got to the campus, I was slightly self conscious as during the fresher's fare, there was an enhanced security presence and I didn't want to be noticed as a creep around the campus by the authorities.

I was feeling a need to "settle into the environment" before starting to approach, much like at the gym.

So I went to the canteen to grab a lunch of a slice of pizza and potato wedges.

Once I had done that, I did a walk around the campus.

I was hurting for openers, I had decided against audacious looping back openers on girls so instead I wanted to be more under the radar, walking around with a relaxed energy.

I found a girl who wasn't even my type with turquoise coloured hair and complimented the colour, to which she responded positively.

I then did a 2 set where I got in front and told them they looked good. They blew me off and I liked how I responded with "A thank you would be nice" I think they replied with "F off" which was a bit rude!

Then when I was browsing at the 2nd hand book stand, I saw a girl wearing these big "monster" slippers. Casually, I pointed and said "they look funny" to which she replied "I killed and skinned my dog to make them" I didn't have anything witty to come back with other than "That's sad".

It's a shame because from her reply, she had a dark sense of humour and I think I would have got on well with her, but she was with 2 friends (one perusing the 2nd hand book stand), but I couldn't come back with anything. This type of girl who can have a dark sense of humour like this is rare.

The next approach was on an 18 year old blonde, a side approach as she was going past, no front stops on the campus, I don't want to draw attention. I said she "really got my eye" it was a quick and clean boyfriend rejection, which I like. I know I am not going to have any success there, but I want to take action first and foremost without over thinking it.

After that, I go to the steps up to the library and watch the people for awhile, then I spring out for my last and best approach.

I see this pretty girl with frizzy blonde hair and I am able to make a calibrated and sincere approach, telling her she looks glamorous.

She takes the compliment well, I am quite happy and we get into a chat. Turns out she is from the Midlands and you don't get that many people from the Midlands in the southeast.

She is a master's student and she asks my name but I didn't get her name, I forgot to ask for it. Anyway, all the signs are good, she crosses her legs on the spot which from coaching has told me it's a good sign that the girl is comfortable in the interaction.

However, she asks me what I am studying and I "grease the wheels" a bit by coming up with a subject and say that I am studying said subject. I still haven't come up with a plausible reason to out myself as a non student on campus approaching girls. I just can't see them buying that.

I will not leave the interaction or close the interaction out of awkwardness, my rule is let the girl do that, which she does with "Well, nice to meet you, I am sure I will see you around". I do not go for a number close as it was clear she was intrigued but not very invested.

So all in all, a good 5 approaches. But when I have been going to the campus recently, I am hit with a profound sense of sadness that I did not think of doing this when I was in my 20s.

 

[gameboy]

They blew me off and I liked how I responded with "A thank you would be nice"

Not smooth. When they blow you off, best just laugh it off and walk away.

It is kind of funny though. But when they say fuck off that's definitely the right moment to laugh and walk off. Chances are they will laugh too when they see you do it.

"I killed and skinned my dog to make them"

I would've laughed hard at that. "That's sad" is kind of a lame reply.

I know I am not going to have any success there,

You should really, really look into your limiting beliefs.

Ever heard of the power of affirmations? Or of self-fulfilling prophecies? If you believe you're not going to have success, it's going to be true. If you believe you will have success, it's also true. Sounds paradoxical, but it really works this way.

I will not leave the interaction or close the interaction out of awkwardness, my rule is let the girl do that, which she does with "Well, nice to meet you, I am sure I will see you around". I do not go for a number close as it was clear she was intrigued but not very invested.

This was a great approach! Too bad you didn't take it further. Did you just blank out, or did you decide to just stand there saying nothing until she leaves? Chase has tons of articles with suggestions what to say to and do with a girl after the opener.

She asked you what you are studying, so we could say she hooked. Which is a success and deserves to be labelled as such. Now if I were you, I'd reflect what I can do better next time I'm in a similar situation.

 

[Ratata]

The benefit of the campus is, I know all the girls are 18+, so that removes a common obstacle to approaching in the highstreet, where there is a lack of commitment and uncertainty which translates into a weak approach.

Why are you worried about this? You know it's a free world, right? Nobody's gonna arrest you for talking to someone. Even someone underage. But they will arrest you for getting sexual with an underage girl, and by that I mean intercourse (though - mind you - laws might vary).

Logically speaking, how likely do you think it is that you'll end up in bed with an underage girl? She'd have to lie to you about her age. Or you would have to go out of your way to break the law. Now, if she's attracted enough to you, there's a small chance she might lie to you. But then, if you're at all worried, then check her ID. OTOH if you can't even control yourself, then... Idk, get counselling or something.

When I got to the campus, I was slightly self conscious as during the fresher's fare, there was an enhanced security presence and I didn't want to be noticed as a creep around the campus by the authorities.

Are you acting like a creep? Don't worry, I'll give you a "how to not be a creep" primer below. ^^

So I went to the canteen to grab a lunch of a slice of pizza and potato wedges.

So, there was nobody at the canteen that you could shoot the shit with? Do you flirt or throw some casual or light hearted jokes at the cashier or desk clerk? I always do. That's why I've dated so many of them....

But you have to remember, for me it doesn't mean anything else then getting a laugh at it, or creating some good vibes. (This is the start of the "how to not be a creep" tutorial btw...) I'm not doing it to impress her, or make her fall in love with me. I do it simply to create good vibes for both me and her, and whoever else is nearby. Cuz I like to brighten up the day for peeps. And you wanna know what, that's hella sexy. That's how outcome independence looks like. But if I notice even a hint of flirt, or worse, sexual tension... I'll ask if she wants to meet me later. And if the sexual tension is thick, then it's an almost guaranteed yes. (Forget about asking for numbers, the real test is if she actually wants to meet you again.)

I then did a 2 set where I got in front and told them they looked good. They blew me off and I liked how I responded with "A thank you would be nice" I think they replied with "F off" which was a bit rude!

It's because you were a beggar. You said it because you wanted something, and they could smell it. Women smell nervousness like DOGS bro! That's why you gotta learn to chill. And you get there by being social with everyone, so you get social momentum, and so it never feels forced to talk to the hotties too. And when you do talk to a hottie, you've stopped caring if she likes it or not, cuz you're just trying to make the day a little better for everyone, which is hella sexy... See where this is going?

Then when I was browsing at the 2nd hand book stand, I saw a girl wearing these big "monster" slippers. Casually, I pointed and said "they look funny" to which she replied "I killed and skinned my dog to make them" I didn't have anything witty to come back with other than "That's sad".

You had no comeback because you weren't in the zone. A big part of going out there, is getting yourself in the zone. Or in state as RSD would call it. Cuz when the comebacks keep ping-ponging, that's when you tend to just end up in bed real quick - or certainly you'd end up on some adventure or other together.

Though if you're out of it, then this is probably the only time I'd reach for a canned comeback. Like, find some canned replies for general surprises like that, when girls are cheeky or a bit rude. This girl was practically begging to get called a naughty girl. And calling a girl "naughty" with a cheeky grin is gold in general. You want her to be naughty, cuz only naughty girls goes home with strangers. Good girls wait for Prince Charming. Bad girls go straight home with the Prince of Darkness ... or something.

Here's something dumb or low key I might've said: "Ohh you're such a naughty girl. What else do you do for fun?" This is legit low effort, but since it's so general it works for most situations.

And from there you can delve into a whole slew of master / slave type role-plays, or even better; daddy / daddy's girl fantasies (ahem this will turn on some really dark strings in certain women): "Ohhh you're so naughty in those slippers, daddy has to slap yer bum! Bring yer bum over here or daddy will let the monsters eat your toes!" Something dumb like that, just an example. Half for shit's n giggles, half so you get to spank her pretty lil bum. But don't say it verbatim. Make up your own stuff. And makes sure to only use stuff like that if she's in a good mood and obviously bantering with you - or else write a crash and burn FR.

If you're worried, the best way to safe it is to mirror her. If she goes there, you're also allowed to go there. So, if she skins dogs to warm her toes, then you're allowed to say something equally dark/dumb back to her. That's basically the gist of safe bantering. If you go further than her, or become needy, that's when you lose - or she calls the guards on you for being a weirdo.

And if all else fails, make more observations. Stack them observations up! If you run out of things to "observe" just say something super general, such as - and I'm just riffing here: "You look so dangerous, I might let you skin off my clothes behind that dumpster!" Or point at her monster slipper and ask "Is that where you're hiding your cookies?" I mean, there's a chance she won't get the reference, but if she goes for weird, you're also allowed to for weird.

Anyway, find some similar comebacks. Keep them general. As you go out, you will find more and more comebacks, and store them in the back of your head, ready to use for whatever situation God throws at you.

The next approach was on an 18 year old blonde, a side approach as she was going past, no front stops on the campus, I don't want to draw attention. I said she "really got my eye" it was a quick and clean boyfriend rejection, which I like. I know I am not going to have any success there, but I want to take action first and foremost without over thinking it.

That's good, though. You're putting yourself out there, albeit in a probably slightly uncalibrated way. She might or might not have a bf. And if she does have a bf, you can always say something dumb like "Oh, you think you're lucky? I have a bf too you know! Maybe we can swap?" Just for a laugh. Though if she gives you the IHABF line, it generally means GTFAFM. So do that. Say "Oh, sorry. Have a nice day." And boom, talk to the next girl. Just to re-iterate, though, the best way to get around stuff like that, is to be social in general, everywhere. Cuz then you don't come off as this guy women can just ask to F off cuz you're coming off as a creepy beggar.

 

[Will_V]

@average_daygamer the last one was a good approach!

However, this:

I will not leave the interaction or close the interaction out of awkwardness, my rule is let the girl do that,

does not fit with this:

I do not go for a number close as it was clear she was intrigued but not very invested.

What's the point in hanging around regardless, if you aren't even going to go for the number or ask her out? Missed opportunity.

It should be one of your rules that every interaction where she stops and talks to you, you ask her out, even if the whole thing has already fizzled out by the time you get to it. You need to train yourself to always be closing, not to make excuses. Sometimes girls get nervous and can't think of anything to do but eject, when they're still interested (just like guys do).

Best of luck!

PS something you might tell campus girls is that you're visiting the library/doing research there for work. That way you don't have to go around pretending to be a student, which is going to be weird if she ever actually goes on a date with you and finds out.

 

[StrayDog]

When I got to the campus, I was slightly self conscious as during the fresher's fare, there was an enhanced security presence and I didn't want to be noticed as a creep around the campus by the authorities.

goes from this

I then did a 2 set where I got in front and told them they looked good. They blew me off and I liked how I responded with "A thank you would be nice" I think they replied with "F off" which was a bit rude!

to this. face palm

These girls didn't ask for you to remark on their looks. They don't owe you a damn thing.

You liked how you responded?!?! dude your response literally got them to tell you to F off. Yeah you really rocked it here. Great response.

Do this enough times and I am positive that you won't get pegged as creep.

I certainly wouldn't have told you to f off. Oh wait, I probably would have.

Then when I was browsing at the 2nd hand book stand, I saw a girl wearing these big "monster" slippers. Casually, I pointed and said "they look funny" to which she replied "I killed and skinned my dog to make them" I didn't have anything witty to come back with other than "That's sad".

It's a shame because from her reply, she had a dark sense of humour and I think I would have got on well with her, but she was with 2 friends (one perusing the 2nd hand book stand), but I couldn't come back with anything. This type of girl who can have a dark sense of humour like this is rare.

you had a decent initial response.

missed opportunity. it happens, sometimes you can't come up with something on the spot. You gotta hang in there though and throw a few things out until there is momentum. So even if you find yourself saying something kind of meh like "that's sad" hang in a bit longer and keep trying to get to momentum.

I will not leave the interaction or close the interaction out of awkwardness, my rule is let the girl do that, which she does with "Well, nice to meet you, I am sure I will see you around". I do not go for a number close as it was clear she was intrigued but not very invested.

where do you think you lost momentum with this one?

 

[average_daygamer]

Not smooth. When they blow you off, best just laugh it off and walk away.

It is kind of funny though. But when they say fuck off that's definitely the right moment to laugh and walk off. Chances are they will laugh too when they see you do it.


I would've laughed hard at that. "That's sad" is kind of a lame reply.


You should really, really look into your limiting beliefs.

Ever heard of the power of affirmations? Or of self-fulfilling prophecies? If you believe you're not going to have success, it's going to be true. If you believe you will have success, it's also true. Sounds paradoxical, but it really works this way.


This was a great approach! Too bad you didn't take it further. Did you just blank out, or did you decide to just stand there saying nothing until she leaves? Chase has tons of articles with suggestions what to say to and do with a girl after the opener.

She asked you what you are studying, so we could say she hooked. Which is a success and deserves to be labelled as such. Now if I were you, I'd reflect what I can do better next time I'm in a similar situation.

Thank you for your reply, Gameboy. Unfortunately, without coaching, I won't be able to stop my limiting beliefs. And I have had coaching as well, but it has barely scratched the surface of my limiting beliefs. I think I would need a huge self esteem coach or something.

The last approach was a highlight and I could feel my vibe shift as I had warmed up.

I did not blank out, I just realised once I got closer to the girl she was not that much my type.

I am very fussy, if I am not approaching for the hell of it.

Normally with these uni students, they are skinny without much of a figure. So even if their face is pretty, I am not that attracted, on a primal level. Also recently I have noticed really baggy clothes which makes it hard to tell what their body is like.

You have to understand, Huge resistance to approaching needs to be overcome.

I am well out of the mindset of "ABC". Last year, I went on a big pre Christmas push, where I did between 10-15 approaches per week and collected 7 phone numbers and gave my number to 1 girl. All of them flaked after 1 or 2 replies, if not didn't reply in the first place.

So now I do what my boy Efrem does and only take the number if there is a solid potential of a date.

You can watch him explain this in his videos

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

www.youtube.com

 

[StrayDog]

Thank you for your reply, Gameboy. Unfortunately, without coaching, I won't be able to stop my limiting beliefs.

the irony being that this in itself is a limited belief

 

[average_daygamer]

goes from this

to this. face palm

These girls didn't ask for you to remark on their looks. They don't owe you a damn thing.

You liked how you responded?!?! dude your response literally got them to tell you to F off. Yeah you really rocked it here. Great response.

Do this enough times and I am positive that you won't get pegged as creep.

I certainly wouldn't have told you to f off. Oh wait, I probably would have.

you had a decent initial response.

missed opportunity. it happens, sometimes you can't come up with something on the spot. You gotta hang in there though and throw a few things out until there is momentum. So even if you find yourself saying something kind of meh like "that's sad" hang in a bit longer and keep trying to get to momentum.

where do you think you lost momentum with this one?

Hi Stray dog and thank you for your reply.

To answer your question, the reason I replied with "A thank you would be nice" was because it allowed me to assert myself and come out of my shell. Before that incident, I was feeling like I was walking on eggshells, completely in my head and feeling like if I approach and it goes wrong, I am going to be escorted off the campus.

I know they don't owe me anything and I don't want anything.

As for my final approach, I realised when I got close to the girl that she wasn't exactly my type. My days of "ABC" are long over. Now, like my boy Efrem, I only ask for a number if I feel there is a decent connection and a chance of the girl coming out for a date.

And don't think I haven't AbC'ed before. Last year, when I went on my big "pre Christmas push" I approached between 10-12 sets per week, got 7 numbers and gave my number out to a girl as well. Out of them, 3 of them flaked and the other 4 only replied once or twice then stopped replying. Or it might have been the other way around I can't remember. I can even send you the WhatsApps for proof if you don't believe me.

I didn't go through the motions of setting up a date based on a snap judgement of not finding her attractive on a primal level, despite her having a pretty face on which my approach and compliment was based.

To make more sense of what I am saying, watch some of the videos of my boy Efrem

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

www.youtube.com

The main approach where I feel was wasted was at the 2nd hand book stand. The one with the monster slippers, I feel like she has potential, but she was part of a 3 set. I could have said "That's dark...I like it" and then introduced myself.

 

[average_daygamer]

@average_daygamer the last one was a good approach!

However, this:



does not fit with this:



What's the point in hanging around regardless, if you aren't even going to go for the number or ask her out? Missed opportunity.

It should be one of your rules that every interaction where she stops and talks to you, you ask her out, even if the whole thing has already fizzled out by the time you get to it. You need to train yourself to always be closing, not to make excuses. Sometimes girls get nervous and can't think of anything to do but eject, when they're still interested (just like guys do).

Best of luck!

PS something you might tell campus girls is that you're visiting the library/doing research there for work. That way you don't have to go around pretending to be a student, which is going to be weird if she ever actually goes on a date with you and finds out.

Sorry will v, but my days of "always be closing" are well and truly over!

I used to be an "ABC" guy. Last year, when I went on my big "pre Christmas push" I approached between 10-12 sets per week and racked up 7 numbers, 4 of which ignored my initial opening text and 3 of which responded once or twice, then went silent.

These days, I only close if I feel the vibe is locked in with the girl and then proposition a date during the interaction. You can see that even though with the German uni student approach, I thought she was down for sure, but then when I text, not reply.

I did also use the library excuse but that doesn't get you out of then assuming you are a student of some sort!

As for why I did not push the interaction, I realised, when I got closer, she was not my exact type. I am very fussy when it comes to being attracted to a girl and more often than not it will seem insincere unless I find her attractive and thus I will not be operating at peak efficiency.

 

[average_daygamer]

Why are you worried about this? You know it's a free world, right? Nobody's gonna arrest you for talking to someone. Even someone underage. But they will arrest you for getting sexual with an underage girl, and by that I mean intercourse (though - mind you - laws might vary).

Logically speaking, how likely do you think it is that you'll end up in bed with an underage girl? She'd have to lie to you about her age. Or you would have to go out of your way to break the law. Now, if she's attracted enough to you, there's a small chance she might lie to you. But then, if you're at all worried, then check her ID. OTOH if you can't even control yourself, then... Idk, get counselling or something.


Are you acting like a creep? Don't worry, I'll give you a "how to not be a creep" primer below. ^^


So, there was nobody at the canteen that you could shoot the shit with? Do you flirt or throw some casual or light hearted jokes at the cashier or desk clerk? I always do. That's why I've dated so many of them....

But you have to remember, for me it doesn't mean anything else then getting a laugh at it, or creating some good vibes. (This is the start of the "how to not be a creep" tutorial btw...) I'm not doing it to impress her, or make her fall in love with me. I do it simply to create good vibes for both me and her, and whoever else is nearby. Cuz I like to brighten up the day for peeps. And you wanna know what, that's hella sexy. That's how outcome independence looks like. But if I notice even a hint of flirt, or worse, sexual tension... I'll ask if she wants to meet me later. And if the sexual tension is thick, then it's an almost guaranteed yes. (Forget about asking for numbers, the real test is if she actually wants to meet you again.)


It's because you were a beggar. You said it because you wanted something, and they could smell it. Women smell nervousness like DOGS bro! That's why you gotta learn to chill. And you get there by being social with everyone, so you get social momentum, and so it never feels forced to talk to the hotties too. And when you do talk to a hottie, you've stopped caring if she likes it or not, cuz you're just trying to make the day a little better for everyone, which is hella sexy... See where this is going?


You had no comeback because you weren't in the zone. A big part of going out there, is getting yourself in the zone. Or in state as RSD would call it. Cuz when the comebacks keep ping-ponging, that's when you tend to just end up in bed real quick - or certainly you'd end up on some adventure or other together.

Though if you're out of it, then this is probably the only time I'd reach for a canned comeback. Like, find some canned replies for general surprises like that, when girls are cheeky or a bit rude. This girl was practically begging to get called a naughty girl. And calling a girl "naughty" with a cheeky grin is gold in general. You want her to be naughty, cuz only naughty girls goes home with strangers. Good girls wait for Prince Charming. Bad girls go straight home with the Prince of Darkness ... or something.

Here's something dumb or low key I might've said: "Ohh you're such a naughty girl. What else do you do for fun?" This is legit low effort, but since it's so general it works for most situations.

And from there you can delve into a whole slew of master / slave type role-plays, or even better; daddy / daddy's girl fantasies (ahem this will turn on some really dark strings in certain women): "Ohhh you're so naughty in those slippers, daddy has to slap yer bum! Bring yer bum over here or daddy will let the monsters eat your toes!" Something dumb like that, just an example. Half for shit's n giggles, half so you get to spank her pretty lil bum. But don't say it verbatim. Make up your own stuff. And makes sure to only use stuff like that if she's in a good mood and obviously bantering with you - or else write a crash and burn FR.

If you're worried, the best way to safe it is to mirror her. If she goes there, you're also allowed to go there. So, if she skins dogs to warm her toes, then you're allowed to say something equally dark/dumb back to her. That's basically the gist of safe bantering. If you go further than her, or become needy, that's when you lose - or she calls the guards on you for being a weirdo.

And if all else fails, make more observations. Stack them observations up! If you run out of things to "observe" just say something super general, such as - and I'm just riffing here: "You look so dangerous, I might let you skin off my clothes behind that dumpster!" Or point at her monster slipper and ask "Is that where you're hiding your cookies?" I mean, there's a chance she won't get the reference, but if she goes for weird, you're also allowed to for weird.

Anyway, find some similar comebacks. Keep them general. As you go out, you will find more and more comebacks, and store them in the back of your head, ready to use for whatever situation God throws at you.


That's good, though. You're putting yourself out there, albeit in a probably slightly uncalibrated way. She might or might not have a bf. And if she does have a bf, you can always say something dumb like "Oh, you think you're lucky? I have a bf too you know! Maybe we can swap?" Just for a laugh. Though if she gives you the IHABF line, it generally means GTFAFM. So do that. Say "Oh, sorry. Have a nice day." And boom, talk to the next girl. Just to re-iterate, though, the best way to get around stuff like that, is to be social in general, everywhere. Cuz then you don't come off as this guy women can just ask to F off cuz you're coming off as a creepy beggar.

I don't think there is any chance of ending up in bed with an underaged girl, no, more a chance of a number of reports of a creep being made, then the police patrolling up and down looking for anyone exhibiting signs of said behaviour and stopping them.

I would be so curious to go out with you guys, surely, you must have some kind of prefiltrring process? You aren't literally approshing every girl you aren't sure about, just because there is a chance she might be 18?

That would be highly inefficient for you even if there weren't reputational repercussions.

Thanks for the ideas on the "monster slippers" approach. I would say, that set had the most potential.

As for coming off as a beggar, an approach is better than no approach. Throwaway approaches get my session off to a good start.

I am not social, I find that hard. There is a lot of resistance to approaching, that's for sure. Generally, I prefer not to. But approach gives me a very slim chance of gaining a lay.

 

[Will_V]

Sorry will v, but my days of "always be closing" are well and truly over!

I used to be an "ABC" guy. Last year, when I went on my big "pre Christmas push" I approached between 10-12 sets per week and racked up 7 numbers, 4 of which ignored my initial opening text and 3 of which responded once or twice, then went silent.

These days, I only close if I feel the vibe is locked in with the girl and then proposition a date during the interaction. You can see that even though with the German uni student approach, I thought she was down for sure, but then when I text, not reply.

I did also use the library excuse but that doesn't get you out of then assuming you are a student of some sort!

As for why I did not push the interaction, I realised, when I got closer, she was not my exact type. I am very fussy when it comes to being attracted to a girl and more often than not it will seem insincere unless I find her attractive and thus I will not be operating at peak efficiency.

Brother, you haven't been laid! Save the 'peak efficiency' for when you've had a bunch of girls and actually know what you want.

Are you telling me that if this uni chick was bottoms up on your bed waiting for you, you'd leave her lying there so as not to be 'insincere'?

Let's face it you're coming up with excuses, when you need to start being scrappy and racking up experiences. The more dates, lays, and sexual experiences of any level you can get, the better. Variety is the spice of life!

 

[StrayDog]

Brother, you haven't been laid! Save the 'peak efficiency' for when you've had a bunch of girls and actually know what you want.

Are you telling me that if this uni chick was bottoms up on your bed waiting for you, you'd leave her lying there so as not to be 'insincere'?

Let's face it you're coming up with excuses, when you need to start being scrappy and racking up experiences. The more dates, lays, and sexual experiences of any level you can get, the better. Variety is the spice of life!

it's called copium, they sell it whole sale these days. @average_daygamer must have gotten a pretty good deal on it

 

[Ratata]

I don't think there is any chance of ending up in bed with an underaged girl, no, more a chance of a number of reports of a creep being made, then the police patrolling up and down looking for anyone exhibiting signs of said behaviour and stopping them.

I would be so curious to go out with you guys, surely, you must have some kind of prefiltrring process? You aren't literally approshing every girl you aren't sure about, just because there is a chance she might be 18?

That would be highly inefficient for you even if there weren't reputational repercussions.

Thanks for the ideas on the "monster slippers" approach. I would say, that set had the most potential.

As for coming off as a beggar, an approach is better than no approach. Throwaway approaches get my session off to a good start.

I am not social, I find that hard. There is a lot of resistance to approaching, that's for sure. Generally, I prefer not to. But approach gives me a very slim chance of gaining a lay.

You're over-thinking the "creep report" risk. On a campus, security isn't scanning for guys saying "hi," they're watching for stalker-ish behaviour hanging around the same spot, following girls, cornering them, not taking a no. If your approaches are brief, mobile, and you leave cleanly when they're not into it, you're not on their radar.

Filtering by age isn't a big logistical problem either. If a girl looks like she's in her early-mid teens, simply skip her. If she looks college-age, assume she's 18+ unless she says otherwise. Most of them are honest about this anyway, and if it's ever an issue just bail or tell her that you can date her next year lol.

Most of us don't approach literally everyone. We just skip obvious minors and people clearly occupied. You're not walking up to literal 15-year-olds with backpacks. Most guys don't even think about it past that.

On your monster-slippers set:

That one was gold because she was playful. You didn't need a perfect line, you just needed to mirror her playfulness. It's not about memorising witty lines, it's about catching the vibe and throwing the ball back. A simple "Haha, that's dark… you're trouble" would have kept it going.

On "throwaway" approaches:

Totally agree that action > overthinking. But if you want higher-quality opens and less resistance, build general social momentum first: Make harmless observations to anyone. Say dumb stuff to the cashier, the bus driver, the dude at the pizza counter. By the time you see a girl you like, you're already warm and come off relaxed, not as the "guy who only talks to pretty girls."

On the sadness / late start:

Pretty normal. Almost every guy who gets into daygame later in life thinks "wish I'd started ten years earlier." The best time to start is always ten years ago. But the good news is you're doing it now, and campuses recycle every year. Focus on building the social muscle rather than wishing you'd started sooner.

All the best!

 

[StrayDog]

That one was gold because she was playful. You didn't need a perfect line, you just needed to mirror her playfulness. It's not about memorising witty lines, it's about catching the vibe and throwing the ball back. A simple "Haha, that's dark… you're trouble" would have kept it going

@average_daygamer this here is golden advice.

goes back to what I was saying on this other post of yours about how you don't need to be witty (I recommend going over what I wrote there for you again. I think you'll find a lot of value)


you just need to be
-observant
-chill
-easy to follow

what @Ratata suggested here is all of those three things.

if you wanted you to keep the conversation going that you just stay in set and throw out something else that is those three things.

wash rinse and repeat.

so say you say "that's dark… you're trouble"

and she replies "yeah I am"

you might say

"well hi trouble. this is a nice spot you've found to study. I love studying under trees"

or maybe you say "apparently trouble also studies math. that's a lot of numbers on that page"

then she says "oh yeah it's a lot for sure" in an exacerbated tone. I would observe that and say "you said that with a heavy tone. seems like you'd rather be doing some else"

and so on

like say she corrects you and says "no I actually enjoy doing it, I have just been doing it all day"

I might reflect that back and say "well that's cool you're enjoying what your doing, even if it's a lot sometimes. Sounds like you're dedicated"

you see, there no need to be witty or come up with things on the spot per se.

just be
-observant
-chill
-easy to follow

eventually you get momentum and can try being more dynamic. but this is the foundation.

the crucial thing about this style is that your body language isn't full on direct at first until the conversation opens up. then you can turn more in and invest in the convo.

Also the other crucial thing is you speak with your eyes. even if you arent at the point of investing your body language, the moment you have peaked her interest let your eye contact start to be more direct. Not staring her down, just dialing up the directness of the eyes. Gradually through out the whole conversation. The eyes are what will set the tone for you.

So the eyes flirt. and your body language is chill.

you are in general
-chill
-observant
-easy to follow

that's the sauce