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Desert Eagle

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Hello everybody. I've been checking in and out of the boards for quite some time now, and it seems that everytime I come back with a new low... and a new opportunity to start doing something about it.

Every time before this I've tended to hit a new low, then went on to improve myself until I saw a noted difference. As soon as I noticed and felt improvement, I would become complacent. Got the attention of a girl? Great! I would dwell on that for a month without results, hit a new low, come back, then work on something else. It was a nasty cycle that lead to little progress.

This time is different. I want to make it to the top. Not just form a social circle or get a girls number. I want to go all the way, build social skills, and seduce women.

Even though I've been reading this material over the past 2 years, I have shoddy results to show for it. I'm still the lonely boy I was when I started. I never really took on any direction before, only ever reading and applying information in my head then spitting it back out to anyone who would listen. Now is the time where I see results.

First, a little about me,

I'm 20 years old. No girlfriends, no lays. I've significantly improved my fundamentals over these past couple years, and I can reliably say that women are attracted to me, or at least interested in me. I've just never done anything about it.

Therefore, I'm going to start with the newbie assignment. I need direction, and hopefully this will set me on the right path until I can decide how to structure my own path through things. 2 years of reading and not applying has left me feeling like I have so much to do, so for once I just need to sit down and follow a process.

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Outside of the newbie assignment, which focuses on skills with women, I want to build a social circle with friends. My last good social circle was during freshman year of college (2 years ago), and it seems I didn't have much to offer them because the instant I ceased being the roommate of one of the guys in the circle I was basically cut out. This time, I come at it from the perspective of this article on how to make friends.

Unfortunately, there's a lot to do on that list. It comes down to basically making myself better as a person to offer more value as a friend, because I'm faced with the fact that I offer very little value after being such a loner for 19 years of my life. Therefore, I wish to work on these three facets of value:

- Conversational value: I don't have much of a problem getting to know people, but I can certainly work on it. I believe that this skill will come to me as I spend more time trying to get to know people and meeting new people.

- Implied value: My implied value is currently extremely low. I'm extremely witty/funny, but that's about all that I have to offer people. My plan for this one is to become an interesting person. More specifically, I'm going to spend a lot more time becoming an expert in the following arenas: environmental science and weight-lifting/diet. Hopefully this list expands as I start doing more things and find out what to become an expert in.

In order to improve myself in environmental science, I will attend all of my classes as well as spend 2 hours in the library working on other assignments or doing my own research on things that interest me about the environment. I will keep track of this by ensuring perfect attendance, as well as keeping a timer on my phone that I must get to 2 hours of time spent in the library focusing on environmental science each day before I can leave the library.

In addition, I'm going to spend more time trying out new activities, generally just checking out and joining in on any of the clubs around campus (and I do mean any; the idea is to expand my worldviews and meet new people each time). My goal for this one is to try out one (1) new activity every week, to be determined on Sunday night.

- Offered value: Finally, I want to offer value to friends in a tangible form outside of conversation. I haven't asked someone to do something with me in years. Therefore, to tie everything together into actually creating my own social circle, I'm going to make an effort to invite people to do things with me after getting to know them.

If I talk to a guy and he mentions he likes to lift weights or would be interested in lifting weights, I'll invite him to lift with me. If I talk to another guy and he says that he enjoys playing video games, I'll hit him up to play some games. If someone else is a movie fanatic I'll check with them and see if they want to check out a movie. If someone else is interested in art, I'll check if they want to go see an art gallery. If someone really likes nature, I'll show them around the nature trail. Etc. etc. etc. It all starts with getting to know the person to know which value I can offer them.

The specific goal for all of this is to get to know people by engaging in new activities, then widening my world view by engaging in other activities with them. In addition, to get to know more people and build social value.

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Goals Short-List Reference
- Newbie Assignment
- Try out one (1) new activity each week (club, sport, etc.) to be determined on Sunday of that week.
- When out trying new activity, get to know people and make an effort to provide offered value by inviting them to do an activity that they are interested in.
- Perfect attendance in my classes, 2 hours spent in library each day.
- Follow German Volume Training Method for lifting weights.
 

Desert Eagle

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Day 0

Today is the day that I decided to do something about my unhappiness.

Aimless, I escaped my meaningless meandering around the internet by just putting on some stuff to go out. I didn't care where I went, I just knew I needed to fly the coop because I hadn't been out alone in ages.

I went out for dinner, alone, farther away from my apartment then I've been all year. I talked with the cashier for a tad, establishing normal contact with her. I felt very awkward just being out of the house with no one to talk to. A girl seemingly wanted to talk to me; she placed herself in the table next to me and appeared to look my way quite a bit. I felt immensely awkward just being out alone, and the thought to talk to her exited my mind extremely quickly. I was aimless, and had no idea what to do.

On my way home I decided to start the newbie assignment and put into effect actual goals. I've never done it before, and figured that now was the time to start, because I needed to make some sort of progress is my ailing position on life that I had no desire to be in.

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In preparation for the start of the newbie assignment and my goal to try out some new club/sport/whatever, I researched a bit into clubs at my college. I feel like the ultimate awkward guy socially... looking up online which clubs at my school to join because I need something to do. It's a start, one that I'm all too excited to move past.

At first I wanted to participate in the running club. They meet on Mondays. Only issue is that it's supposed to rain tomorrow, and I have a class at the same time. So no go on that for now. Planning on walking around campus, checking out various flyers in various buildings to find out about any events/clubs to go into.

As for tomorrow's newbie assignment, I'm going to be looking for places to meet women. Specifically 4 of them. Pretty sure the library will be one; gotta catch women as they walk in. Going to check out various grocery stores, the places on campus where the most attractive girls walk by, the gym. I'm going to try and find at least 10 places and rate them based on foot traffic, quality of women, and variability of women. Rate all 10 of those, pick my top 4.

In addition to those two goals, attend all my classes for the day, and off day for lifting weights.

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Don't feel like much progress was made as far as doing anything. I really just want to get out there and do something to break this seeming curse of being locked to my computer. Here's to hoping that feeling stays with me into the morning, so that I can rise and go explore campus for foot traffic for women in the morning as well as check out the flyers around campus so that I can settle which club I'm going to check out that week.
 

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Day 1

Newbie Assignment Day 1: 4 Locations

University Library: Pros: Good amount of foot traffic and high turnover of girls. Cons: It's almost always dead quiet in here. So direct approaches are probably out the door. Don't want to direct compliment approach one girl and say she looks amazing then have 10 other girls who I'd also like to get to know overhear that, making it sound stale if I approach them with a direct compliment. Solution: Use this location for indirect-direct approaches. Establish eye contact flirting, come over and say hi.

University Streets: Really busy today, did not get to rate various locations on campus at the times of day that I'd typically approach. But I do know that the streets where people walk to and from classes, to their car, etc. have high foot traffic, and I can move locations/time if needed for turnover of new girls. Going to be my prime location for honing my skills.

University Gym: Seeing a trend here? The university is the only place that I've seen with high degree women that are easy for me to access. Well, that and the bars, but I'm waiting until I don't have to pass a fake ID around to get into that scene. Pros: Hot girls. Cons: Same issue with the library. In addition, the gym is actually pretty small. And there's usually way more dudes than chicks. Oh well, I go there 4 times a week, so it just made sense to make it a spot, so probably not going to be a place I go out to just to approach, but I'll definitely approach girls in here while I also happen to be there.

Shopping Center: Finally, a non-university setting. Hoping to expand that list. Pros: It's not the biggest center, but a lot of people do go here and it'll be a nice break from the university scene. Cons: Everyone shops, so that includes older/unattractive women. Ultimately feels like it'll take more effort to find a cute girl to approach, but when I do I won't give any fucks if someone is watching us because I wasn't planning on approaching the unattractive women in the stores.

Day 1 complete. Pretty simple for me.

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Other Goals

- Found out that there's some international cultures fair going on at my school tomorrow. Kick-ass, perfect opportunity to expand my horizons and talk to some people so that I can gain some reference points and meet some cute girls from different countries.

- Attended all my classes, spent 2 hours in the library. Wanted to leave after 1 hour, forced myself to stay and get more work done.

- Rest day for German Volume Training because I'm recovering from a leg injury. Shoulders/arms tomorrow.

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Thoughts

Decent day. Had a girl flirt with me in class, just generally her standing near me and resting her head in my shoulder during a field activity. Actually went on a couple dates with her last week, but failed to make anything of it because I tore my quadriceps and wasn't in sex-shape at the time. Leg is feeling good enough to have sex now, but I felt really down on myself this weekend so I didn't ask her out. Feeling better about myself and my status now, going to shoot her a text about coming to my place to hang out, which should make things easy for escalation.

In addition, I notice I slip into these sorts of lazy modes whenever I've been out and about for a while. I had my classes and as soon as I was done I went home to eat, and all I wanted to do was crash because I'd been busy. So I did. For 2 hours. Eventually meditated to clear my mind, and boy was I ready to go out and get some work done again after I did that. So, instead of jumping on my computer when I need to crash, I'm going to relax and meditate for 30ish minutes then get right back out there.
 

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Day 2

Bloody cold. Just spent 2 hours outside watching football in shorts. Trying to put my sports playing days behind me, I just find other things to be a better use of my time and I typically end up injured, which detracts from weight training.

Worked on posture as per the newbie assignment. Sexy walk is something I've been trying to do for a while, so I got some swag leather gloves to wear so I can swing my arms when I walk without shivering. In addition I paid more attention to how I'm sitting; that's always a work in progress. Wasn't really challenged as far as posture went...

Succeeded in goal of going out to a new event. Cold, I was psyched out at first but I finally just said fuck it and walked in. Ended up with this FR of the outing: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8662

Weak showing but whatevs. I almost didn't walk in. I also almost skipped my class this morning. 4 hours of sleep and 30 degrees outside makes chemistry really uneventful. But I forced myself to go to that too. So far in 2 days I've accomplished all my social goals. Didn't lift weights. Probably coulda had I planned my day out better, but forcing those social interactions drained me of out-competing my previous self.
 

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Slight Fall, but Back on Track

Well, I felt extremely off the past 2 days. I mainly credit it to finishing up football playoffs, in which I really fucked up my leg, so getting up out of bed and moving around is just painful in general and makes my motivation for going out next to zero.

Luckily the season ended last night. I've been wanting to ask this girl out. We went on a couple dates with a little chemistry, then I hurt my leg. Since then we've been flirting with each other, but I haven't wanted to make a move because I want to escalate to sex, not have to stop halfway through an escalation because I feel like I can't physically do it without extreme pain.

Other than that, I have been working on my newbie assignment for eye contact. In general I've just been making eye contact more often, whereas before I'd completely shut it out. Going to give it a shot to actually make and hold eye contact with 10 attractive girls tomorrow, even though it's the weekend and campus is likely to have a lot less people. Also been doing a lot of studying and life work so I can focus on seduction a lot more once my leg heals. Worked out upper body today.

Notes:
- Day 3 of newbie assignment tomorrow.
- No events to go to this week, because I'll be going home for Thanksgiving and spending it with family.
- Go to my classes.
- 2 hours spent studying for finals each day
- Continue German Volume Training Method (minus leg stuff until injury heals)
 

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Good luck, bro :)

~Nick
 

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Thanks PrettyDecent.

11/24/2014

Good news, I grew the balls to ask a girl out over text today. It was more of a spontaneous thing (we've already been out on dates, but she asked me on them) and she said she was already busy eating dinner. She was flirting with me throughout the day today, figured I'd throw it out there since I didn't have plans tonight. No success, but still learned some lessons because I decided to do a date run through without an actual girl there.

First, my apartment needs some upgrades. I have a TV but all I do is play games on it with a PS4, so I bought Netflix and set it up so I could flip that on to occupy a girl mindlessly flicking through shows to watch. Goal is to kiss her/start the escalation before she picks a show/movie to watch. Also, all I have are these colorful plastic cups that are quite old, so I'm going to get some clean glassware for drinks.

Besides that, I've made plans to improve my bedroom, which literally consists of a bed and somewhere to put my clothes. Going to buy some speakers and a music system, some mood lighting, some better sheets, and a glass bowl so I can fill the room with a slight scent of essential oils.

As for newbie assignment... Well, yeah, that's on pause. I've always sucked at following plans made for me by others, and really only succeeded when I did my own thing. I'll still refer back to it when I need ideas on what to practice. As of right now my biggest hurdle is cold approach (I do warm well enough) and isolating girls. Add onto that that I'd like to up my attraction and those are my current goals.

Current Goals
- Live in the moment (get more friends, invite them to do more things, do more things with other people, focus less on the future and more on improving current situation)
- Up fundamental attraction (follow workout program, diet plan, continue to work on sexy walk, expand fashion, improve posture, work on skin health, pick a hairstyle)
- Work on gaining value provided by expanding network of friends, becoming more learned in my field of study, and engaging in new activities.
- Buy new stuff to make your apartment ideal for escalation
 

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It's great that you're working on your seduction location, it's really important to get all that background / fundamentals stuff down. I seem to recall an article on the main site which suggested a foundation for a great night out, things like "clean and prepare your apartment... eat healthy food... etc". And you'll feel much better in a nicer environment even without girls present. One thing that really made a difference for me was hanging some pictures a while back, I did this prior to one of my early dates post GC.

Check out the description of the "drinks kiss" in the tactics & techniques board, or maybe it's somewhere in the field reports but I think it is stickied anyway. Basically you put your drink down on the table... then take hers out of her hand and put it down on the table too... maintaining eye contact I think... then go in for the kiss having built tension.

Good luck with the cold approaching. You don't have to follow the newbie assignment strictly. I didn't. But remember you can follow the steps pretty much anywhere... like head out of your parents house for an hour or two on Thanksgiving morning and see who is around... just having a conversation with 1 cute girl does improve your day :)

cheers, Ray
 
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ray_zorse said:
It's great that you're working on your seduction location, it's really important to get all that background / fundamentals stuff down. I seem to recall an article on the main site which suggested a foundation for a great night out, things like "clean and prepare your apartment... eat healthy food... etc". And you'll feel much better in a nicer environment even without girls present. One thing that really made a difference for me was hanging some pictures a while back, I did this prior to one of my early dates post GC.

Yeah Ray, on the days that I literally don't do anything I eat like shit, oversleep, and have an unclean apartment. When my apartment is clean, I wake up early, and eat fruits and veggies in the mornings I feel great. Also working out more consistently now that sports are over, which is always a plus!

I want to become more involved in photography just as an art. It seems to provide a lot of value to not only the picture takers life, but also to others. Once I collect some good shots I may throw them up on barren walls ;).

Check out the description of the "drinks kiss" in the tactics & techniques board, or maybe it's somewhere in the field reports but I think it is stickied anyway. Basically you put your drink down on the table... then take hers out of her hand and put it down on the table too... maintaining eye contact I think... then go in for the kiss having built tension.

Good suggestion. Seems like a very dominant way to do it. I guess that's what I'll have to do if I invite a girl back and she's still holding her drink ;P.

Good luck with the cold approaching. You don't have to follow the newbie assignment strictly. I didn't. But remember you can follow the steps pretty much anywhere... like head out of your parents house for an hour or two on Thanksgiving morning and see who is around... just having a conversation with 1 cute girl does improve your day :)

Lol.. I never really approached girls in my home town to be honest. Whenever I go back I fall into the same safety-net state where I have my parents do everything for me, but I figure I can at least try and scope out some cuties before I leave. Only question is, where the hell do people go on Thanksgiving morning? Stores are closed :x Guess I'd try a morning jog through some neighborhoods?

11/25/14

Right now I still feel stuck on making eye contact with girls. I started doing it more often, but a lot of the time I tell myself to do it and I break contact as a habit. So I'm going to continue with that lesson today, as well as leaving subtle notes to improve my posture. I have a little bit of time to kill in between classes.

In addition, I'm trying to go out to eat every night. It's a little harder on my wallet, but it offers a lot of positives. First, I'm trying to gain weight, so I need to eat more food and eating out always offers big, tasty portions. Second, I get out of my apartment, and into situations where I can potentially meet people, or possibly invite them out. Third, I want it to feel more "normal" to go out to eat, since I rarely do it, which should increase my comfort levels if/when I go out to eat with friends/girls as well as increase my experience with which places are good date places.

To Do:
- Practice eye contact.
- Go out for dinners.
 

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Remember to game the waitresses. It's easier than you would think. Read the article on the main site about this. Just remember to compliment them, be flirty, deep dive them a bit each time they bring your food, and have them write the number on your receipt, don't get out your phone in the restaurant and don't let colleagues overhear you number closing. :) Ray
Edit: Have them recommend you your dishes to get initial investment.
 

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Remember to game the waitresses. It's easier than you would think. Read the article on the main site about this. Just remember to compliment them, be flirty, deep dive them a bit each time they bring your food, and have them write the number on your receipt, don't get out your phone in the restaurant and don't let colleagues overhear you number closing. :) Ray
Edit: Have them recommend you your dishes to get initial investment.

Lol... I normally ask them what's good because I look at huge menus and just go, WTF? I don't have time to read all that shit. Does get them talking.

11/27/14

Thanksgiving, not much to update here. Spent yesterday traveling and today with family. On the 25th I tried making eye contact with a lot of girls but I found myself shying away from it quite often and getting into my work. But one good thing is that I am starting to actually look up and notice my environment. Before I'd lock myself into work and not immerse myself in my environment, but I believe that this change makes me live more in the present.

Still working on some other goals. I decided to make a big effort towards giving up porn/masturbation. Joined a support group on Reddit, and have gone 3 days without porn/masturbation after doing it every day. I still get urges/ideas to do it, as well as raging morning wood now that I've stopped, but I don't let myself logically allow that anymore. In addition, my leg finally healed to the point where I feel comfortable working them out, so here's to hoping I get buff lol.
 

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11/28/14

Did a lot of reading, school work, and worked out. Then my neighbor came by, and wow.

Last time I saw my neighbor she was 16, and now she's 17, and damn did her ass and tits grow. She also learned how to put make-up on and wore high heels when she came over, and quite frankly I was surprised at how much she changed.

Her dad and her came over and ate dinner later in the day, then I went to our game room to play some games with my brothers. She came with us, and I decided that even though I wasn't going to try anything, I could still have a little fun trying out some new social skills dynamics. While playing the game I got her rooting for me the entire time and rewarded her for doing so, which was cool to see how easy it was for me to do now.

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Doing some reading outside of this website which turned me onto a lot of cool theories. Girls Chase focuses a lot on actually doing things, but it was nice to read about some inner game from time to time.

Still focusing on making myself better for the remainder of my stay at home. It's the 5th day that I've not watched porn/masturbated and I still feel great. Now when I start to get horny I think to myself, "Damn, I wish I could see that woman so I could approach her and make it happen!" rather than, "I should turn on some porn and jerk off." I really feel close to the point where I'm going to make something actually happen.
 

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12/3/14

Had a spot of weakness last night and masturbated. Couldn't fall asleep last night, was super hungry, and my will power just ran out. Not surprisingly, I feel like shit so far today, but I know that the only way to ease the regret is to work on myself.

Also I feel inclined to write down my social interactions with people so I can learn from them. This morning in my class I felt sort of ostracized. Anyways, my day started when I got out of my car and this girl I knew was walking and talking on the phone,

Her: Oh look, it's John!
Me: *squint/skeptical look at her*

Couldn't quite make out what she said after that, but it was something about the way I looked at her. I think it was, "He always looks at me like I'm weird." Oh well.

Her: Save me!
Me: From what?
Her: My ex- was sitting on a bench and when I saw him and walked away he started following me so now I'm dodging him and waiting for my friend.
Me: We could just go to class (class was literally right across the street, not near her ex-)

Forget what she said after this, but I lingered for a split second and said, "It's safe to go." She didn't look like she was about to follow so I just walked away confidently.

Now this girl comes into class and sits next to me with her friend,

Friend: You left her, she could have died! *overdramatic*
Me: (thinking to myself, I didn't leave her, she just didn't follow me) Oh she wouldn't die.
Friend: I would've killed you if something happened to her! *overdramatic*
Me: Oh why, so you could attend another funeral? That way you could attend them both in succession, right? And would only have to rent a dress for a couple days. You're so cheap *said with a slight grin*
Friend: Oh yeah, that was my plan all along *smiles, giggles it off, conversation dies out, resumes talk with other people*

Then our teacher sends us off to go do something in a computer lab real quick. Now this girl is wearing a noticeably long shirt and no visible shorts. And damn are her legs hot, it's obvious she's showing them off. After a bit of small talk, I comment,

Me: Wow, that's a long shirt. Wearing any shorts underneath it?
Her: Actually I'm not *nervous giggle* (said very matter-of-fact)
Me: *looking at her legs* Oh? *swipe at her shirt acting like I'm going to pull it up* I don't believe you (said with a grin)
Her: Nooo, you can't do that/you can't look at that (said in a flirty way)

After that I left the conversation and pretended to be busy. She got into a conversation with a group of people and when I turned around it was obvious that I was positioned on the outside of the group. So I got up and headed to the restroom.

After we got back into class we just listened to him lecture. I think she may have tried to catch my eye a few times. I remember one time I noticed she was fixing her shirt, like pulling it down, then immediately afterwards she glanced over towards me then looked down. This is the same girl that rejected my date and hasn't made any effort to go on a date with me, so I feel like I'm in a pickle mainly because I made myself too available to her and didn't do things on my terms initially.

I feel like a lot of the signs I'm getting from girls are positive, but I'm lacking results. These girls aren't moving with me and I'm unable to move things forward. I don't feel as though I'm specifically targeting a reaction from girls. It's completely natural for me to make these jokes, and I rarely force it. Every example I wrote out was made to tease the girl, not to force a reaction out of her. But I do often rely on reactions before I move things forward. If there's anything to learn from this, it's that flirting like this is okay, but I should probably be focusing more on a process that beds a woman.
 

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12/6/14

Yeah... So forgetting the girl I didn't move fast on after asking her out once more and getting denied. As I've learned painfully over and over, these girls get swept up by not only men, but better men than me. It's like I'm this stepping stone for girls to end up finding great boyfriends. Last girl I went on a date with ended up getting in a relationship, a few days after we stopped seeing each other, with our college's basketball star and all around awesome guy (basketball is the biggest sport at my school), now this girl ends up with the most promising grad student at our college who seems to be perfect in just about every way.

If anything it just fuels the motivation inside me to be the best, because I'm tired of having to try to learn so many fucking tactics that i haven't gotten to work. I want shit to be on easy mode like it must be for these guys, and nothing feels easy right now. I think reading lay reports and tuning into the media has sort of poisoned my mind into thinking that I didn't need to be this amazing guy to sleep with girls - it's actually pretty easy, because look at all these other guys doing it! But time and time again in my life these girls go for the fruit at the top of the tree.

Learning to trust my actual experiences. Learning to be better. Making progress.
 

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12/7/14

Was wrapping up things with my study group tonight and this same girl was flirty as ever with me. Then I started hearing her talk about the other guy, like she was on her best behavior with him and tried so hard to make a good impression on him, whereas the same wasn't said with me.

Only makes me work harder to become a better man. A man that women want to impress, rather than one they simply show up for.
 

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Seriously??? You are doing fine bro.

Flirtiness translation: This guy is interesting. If I tease him a bit and show interest and attraction, will he become an orbiter, or will he man up and show his stuff by dominating me as I need to be dominated?
Best behaviour translation: This guy is great boyfriend material, if I'm on his arm everyone will think I'm the hottest girl in school. So I better not let him get sex for a long time otherwise he might get bored of me and move on.

About all the techniques... just go on dates and see where you fall down, then add the appropriate technique. Simple. It soon becomes part of who you are. No problem. Keep approaching :)

I forgot to say that whenever I see a guy with a girl on his arm, particularly a hot girl, I feel sorry for him. I imagine all the shitty drama he must have to endure to maintain his position. Then I think of the Drexel Scott approach and chuckle a bit. Obviously I didn't always feel this way, when I couldn't get girls I used to think they were king dick of course.
 

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ray_zorse said:
Seriously??? You are doing fine bro.

Flirtiness translation: This guy is interesting. If I tease him a bit and show interest and attraction, will he become an orbiter, or will he man up and show his stuff by dominating me as I need to be dominated?
Best behaviour translation: This guy is great boyfriend material, if I'm on his arm everyone will think I'm the hottest girl in school. So I better not let him get sex for a long time otherwise he might get bored of me and move on.

About all the techniques... just go on dates and see where you fall down, then add the appropriate technique. Simple. It soon becomes part of who you are. No problem. Keep approaching :)

I forgot to say that whenever I see a guy with a girl on his arm, particularly a hot girl, I feel sorry for him. I imagine all the shitty drama he must have to endure to maintain his position. Then I think of the Drexel Scott approach and chuckle a bit. Obviously I didn't always feel this way, when I couldn't get girls I used to think they were king dick of course.

Lol, in my experience these girls aim to sleep with these guys just to keep them around. Pretty sure the two of them have slept together after overhearing that they woke up and made breakfast for each other, but I'll keep that in mind muchacho.

And yes, I do go for the non-boyfriend role in the beginning and make girls cut the drama out. I think this girl just wants me as an orbiter though, so I'm aiming not to fall into that role. So now she has a boyfriend and I should just cut her out, ain't worth it man.
 
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