Confident Gentleman vs Upbeat Energetic Dude

[Ronnie]

Restarting game in my mid 30s is bringing some style questions. In my late 20s, my whole game was based on being upbeat, cheerful, playful. Got some amazing night game pulls (including some very fast ones) but I sucked at day game. Move the clock forward 7 years, I am now a more mature man and I am finding myself experimenting a very slow, composed, yet confident/grounded style of day game. The initial feedback I am getting is not bad at all. What I am noticing with this style of game is that you get much faster to the point of the conversation where she's giving you those deep eyes looks. The main con may be that without the playfulness she may also become more self-conscious of what's going on when it's too soon. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. Also wondering if developing this style of day game may affect your ability to transform into the upbeat playful guy when it's time to hit the night bars in the weekend.

 

[Mr.SocialAcceptableHarem]

Day game is generally said to be harder starting out compared to nightgame. I started out daygame, I am young and with an energetic vibe, I go on about 1-2 dates a week depending on how much I approach.

How many approaches did you do daygame before you labeled you "suck' at it?

I know for the first 50 approaches I didn't get any dates, but I persevered and now it's a little easier.

Everyone sucks when starting out.

And as for high vs. low energy vibes, they both can work in any setting, more on that here: 3 flavors of sexy: smooth, brooding, and talkative

without the playfulness she may also become more self-conscious of what's going on when it's too soon

That may be an attainably issue, your composed vibe could be attractive but also make you appear to have no flaws, this psyches her out and she thinks your too good for her because your so smooth

Being too serious + high value, can make the stakes high for her: "What if I fuck up and sleep with him too fast? Then he definitely won't become my boyfriend or respect me"

Try to make jokes, even about your self, or purposefully make a few mistakes, so she sees you as a relatable and attainable guy.


Yours truly,

 

[Gladiator]

What I am noticing with this style of game is that you get much faster to the point of the conversation where she's giving you those deep eyes looks. The main con may be that without the playfulness she may also become more self-conscious of what's going on when it's too soon. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.

Not sure what your age has got to do with not being playful anymore. But if it's something that you're not consciously avoiding but you're indeed not playful anymore, I think you can balance out the sexual tension with deadpan humor. Deadpan humor doesn't make you look clownish but makes you come across witty if your vibe is calm and composed.

Another approach is to use trance-inducing vocabulary, weasel phrases and light NLP - pacing and leading, mirroring, anchoring etc.
Don't read too much into the video, whether it's legit or not. I just takeaway the techniques from it for speed seduction:

 

[DarkKnight]

For me depends on the venue. If there is a lot of social control I go for intrigue and the smooth confident guy, but my default is upbeat and energetic. Basically when I get into a venue or an area I start chatting people up and create the "vibe/party" even if I am somewhere at a counter I tend to have this effect. The reason I do this is because I see this as social peacocking, I draw the attention away from the grey masses towards me. But, key is not to be too tryhard, I have noticed that when I am going overboard it can come across as tryhard, you need to make it come across as natural... which I think I am doing fairly well right now.

The biggest advantage of energetic guy is that you can naturally talk to new girls and make it come across as normal. But if you go too much for low key energy, you can lose plausible deniability in places where there is social control.

One thing I have learned though is when there are a lot of people of authority around who can see me as a social threat it is sometimes better to go under the radar, because staff really do not like when suddenly they lose a lot of attention to you. Places where this can work is when there are more female staff who like you, gives you more playroom. At street I guy for energetic, because being a bit too low key smooth tends to cause inaction.

 

[D. Gately]

Match the venue to your state. Confident gentleman or The Rake is best for lounges/bars with low music, dark spaces, hidden nooks and stairwells, quieter areas vs the reverse.

 

[Ronnie]

Great tips everybody. Appreciate.