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Approach and number close

Almost four weeks ago, I went out on a nice sunny Sunday afternoon for some DG. Due to being in a period of low momentum, AA was hitting me hard. I walked around for 2 hours without opening, chickening out of some good sets. In defeat, I decided to call it and head home, but I decided to walk so that if I came across some good sets, I would be able to turn the situation around.

Walking back, I was stopped at the traffic light when on the opposite side, and on the opposite side of the road (diagonally across from me), I spotted a chick with a banging bod waiting at the light. I couldn’t see much of her face because I was too far but she looked so damn hot from afar. The light to the opposite side of the road was still green so I walked across. Now I was directly across from her.

I knew that if the lights turned green and we crossed each other, it was going to be awkward running back, so I feigned looking at my phone, and walked the other direction, away from the lights. To my right, I saw an EB games sign, so walked over there to bide my time – the store was closed. I feigned being a little annoyed, and by now figured the light must have changed and she would be walking over. I was right – she had crossed the road and now when I walked back, we passed each other on the sidewalk. I then mustered up my balls and jogged back along her side.

“Hey! Girl in the black dress!”

She stopped and looked at me. This girl was sexy. She had an incredible tight body, wearing all black, with jet black hair, pale skin and multiple nose and ear piercings. HBRocker.

“I saw you walking past, and thought to myself “that girl has such a great sense of style, I have to go back and find out who she is. I’m loving the all black”

She looked shocked.

HBRocker: “Oh wow that’s so nice. Thank you!”

Delivered the next standard question:

Me: “Going for a walk?”

HBRocker: “Actually going to meet up with a friend. Thanks so much much for the complement. I’m running late though!”

She then started walking away.

Me: “Hang on, two more minutes”

Should note my delivery was strong, playful. Not commanding.

She turned back.

HBRocker: “Ok..”

Me: “I’m curious. Do you usually go for the all black or do you spice it up occasionally?”

HBRocker: “Haha, this is actually my work uniform. I’m coming back from work now”

Me: “Where do you work that you get to wear that? I want to work there now.”

HBRocker: “Haha, the Apple store!”

I made some comment about having to deal with shitty customers. She laughed and said she mainly hung out in the back room anyway. At some point she mentioned that she really didn’t want to be late, and I said I had to get going soon and wouldn’t keep her too long. A couple minutes in a loud motorbike rode past. I didn’t use the full version of my gambit but simply said “I wish my dick was that big”. She laughed “Classic!”

We went back and forth for a little longer. Before she could bring it up again, I said

Me: “Hey, I don’t want to make you any more late, and I’ve got to get going too. This has been fun.”

HBRocker: “Haha, it has!”

Me: “Do you live in the area?”
HBRocker: “Yes”

Me: “Cool, well have you heard of XX bar? It’s a neat place with a cool rooftop. We should grab a drink there sometime”

HBRocker: “I haven’t been there before. Ok!”

Number closed, and sent the icebreaker a couple hours later.

Text conversation

I shot a couple of texts back and forth before suggesting the drink. When she mentioned that Friday worked best, I took Velascos advice and rather than agreeing immediately, told her that I would have to let her know about Friday .This was on Monday, I was planning on saying that Friday would work on Tuesday afternoon, agreeing three days in advance. I set myself a new rule – first dates near my house, if the girl is hot enough and suggests Friday or Saturday, I would agree to it. Because, since most girls work Monday to Friday, she is more likely to loosen up and come home if she doesn’t have anything to do in the morning. After she has slept with me, would shift meetups to weeknights or during the day on Saturday and Sunday, leaving Friday and Saturday night to game other girls.

I had a good feeling about this one. Her enthusiasm was a great sign and I was pretty confident that I would be able to get a first date lay.

Sunday, Jan 9, 2022

B (6:37 pm): Hey H in the striking all black, it's B! Unexpected but great running into you earlier. Save my number :)

H (7:00 pm): Hey :) sorry if I was a bit stand offish, was already running late haha. Thanks for stopping :)

B (7:56 pm): Ah, I had assumed you were just intimidated by how incredibly charming and handsome I was ;) Haha. Enjoy the drinks and talk soon

H (8:41 pm): That may have had something to do with it too honestly I was a little taken aback, no one has just come up and started a conversation like that in a long time haha

Monday, Jan 10, 2022

B (9:13 am): It's not that common now but it's fun - you meet some interesting people. Hope your friend wasn't too mad about me stealing you haha.

B (9:13 am): What's your schedule looking like this week? Let's grab that drink :)

H (1:59 pm): True, I admire your confidence too!

Haha nah he was fine

H (1:59 pm): Friday is probably best for me :)

B (3:03 pm): Ha, good to hear. Friday might work for me but I've gotta confirm - I'll let you know ;)

H (5:27 pm): No worries, keep me updated

A spanner in the works.

On Monday, while I was texting her, I felt a bit of a headache coming on, and a sore throat. I thought nothing of it. However, that night, I couldn’t sleep. My temperature started going up, my body started to ache. I was coughing like crazy. It wasn’t good. The next morning, I asked my parents if they had any RATs left. Dad had one, and drove over to give it to me. I took my test and lo and behold, there it was. After miraculously managing to avoid it for weeks after coming into contact with so many positive cases, including HBTall (a girl I had been seeing for a couple months) who came up positive the day after I had slept with her, it had finally gotten me.

This now meant that I had to isolate at home for 7 days. This meant no seeing HBTall the next day who had just come out of her 7 day iso period, and no date on Friday with HBRocker.

Naturally, I was a bit concerned that I might have passed it on to her since I might have been infectious. So I sent her a message. Luckily, she had already had it so was probably immune. She told me to contact her when I was feeling better. I said I would. But was freaking out. Clock was still ticking, there was a real chance the momentum was going to die:

Tuesday, Jan 11, 2022

B (11:53 am): Hey H, some bad news. Wasn't feeling too hot yesterday, did a test this morning and have come up positive. So I'll be in iso for the next 7 days ‍♂️

B (11:53 am): I hope I haven't passed it on to you, but watch for symptoms over the next couple of days. And we will have to raincheck, hopefully for later next week

H (11:56 am): Ohh shit! Sorry to hear that :( hope it doesn't hit you too hard

I actually had it over New Years so I'm thinking I should be fine appreciate the heads up though

H (11:56 am): Let me know when you're feeling better and we'll work something out then :)

B (11:58 am): Well I feel less guilty now, haha. Sounds like a plan - talk then :)

I stuck to my guns, and got through the 7 days of iso. On the day I was released, I rengaged. Really, I should have sent it perhaps a day prior to give more time to work out a day, but I made the assumption Friday would be free again. Instead of going straight for the meetup again, I sent a couple messages in between, since I felt it was good to build up some comfort and momentum considering we hadn’t spoken for over a week. She was available Friday and Sunday – again, I decided to go for Friday night – higher chance of pulling if she didn’t have to be anywhere in the morning.

Tuesday, Jan 18, 2022

B (2:12 pm): H! Good news. Went through hell and back the last week but have finally beaten covid. Hope all has been good on your end. How's the back room of the apple store looking ;)

H (4:20 pm): Hey B :) glad to hear you made it out alive. Hope you're feeling much better now! All is good over for me, I've finally fully recovered too and gone back to work

H (4:21 pm): Lots happening back of house at apple haha but it's all good n

B (5:34 pm): Good to hear :) Fully recovered from getting it over New Year's? I've heard it can linger for a while

H (5:48 pm): Yeah! Was super congested and had a cough for ages but I'm all good now. Hopefully it's not as bad for you

B (6:13 pm): My throat is slightly sore but that's it, hopefully it goes away soon

B (6:13 pm): We should cash in on that raincheck :) Does Friday still work better for you or any other days?

H (9:09 pm): I hope it does too, for your sake!

H (9:09 pm): Yeah Friday night is good :)

H (9:09 pm): Could also do Sunday night if that's better for you

Wednesday, Jan 19, 2022

B (8:21 am): Already feels clear this morning! This Friday works well actually

B (8:21 am): What do you say we meet outside BAR on STREET at 7:30? Plenty of cool places nearby we can check out afterwards too :)

H (2:50 pm): Yeah that sounds good to me :)

B (3:12 pm): Perfect! Enjoy the rest of the week and I'll see you on Friday

H (4:09 pm): You too :) see you then

I forgot that you had to book places in advance with all the COVID capacity restriction BS. So on Thursday, when I realized, I went to book a spot at the bar but couldn’t. I managed to find a spot at another bar which I’d been to a couple of times before. The next day, Friday, I let her know about the change and she said it was fine.

Friday, Jan 21, 2022

B (11:51 am): Hey H! Slight change of plans for tonight. Getting a 7:30 booking at Harlow was impossible so went for the Corner Hotel instead which is also one of my fav spots. It's a bit further down Swan, near Richmond station

H (12:36 pm): No worries at all :)

B (12:50 pm): Cool :)

H (7:19 pm): On my way now, will get there just after 7:30 :)

B (7:21 pm): Same here, see you soon!

B (7:35 pm): Just outside by the tree

The date

I got there, and she rocked up looking sexy in a black outfit (I got the feeling her entire wardrobe was black). We went upstairs and were seated opposite each other. Not ideal. Bit of light back and forth banter before the first round of drinks. Soon after, a group approached us asking if we could swap seats since their friends were next to us and they were seated far away. This was good, as I was able to sit at a 90 degree angle from her in the new spot. Deep dived, used ample chase frames and she was eating it up. As an example, I told her that I wanted to play a psychology game with her later which you fine readers know as the cube. She was a bit hesitant and asked what she had to do. When I explained it would involve her closing her eyes and imagining certain things, she told me that she wasn’t good at visualizing things in her head. It was cute.

Me: “Hmm, so if you close your eyes, you’re telling me you won’t be able to imagine a sexy Beam?”

HBRocker: “Hahaha, I don’t need to close my eyes for that…”

She didn’t have too many hobbies or interests besides watching TV, but she did yoga every day. Because of this, I seeded the pull by talking about TV shows and how I rarely watch them alone. Found out her favourite show was “Orange is the New Black”. Made a mental note of it.

After the second drink I suggested bouncing to the second place, my favourite little dive bar with couches. On the way, plenty of kino, felt natural. Unfortunately, when we got to the place, all the couches were full, so we sat at a table facing them, side by side, and ordered another drink. Eventually, a spot on the couch was available and I pounced on this opportunity.

Now I was where I wanted to be – side by side, on the couches, where it was easy to snuggle up. I was on fire, making her bend over backwards laughing with my ridiculous, elaborate stories.

This is something I like doing and is my style of humour, experiencing something small and taking it to a ridiculous extreme. Two examples:

  • One of the cocktails had an edible flower in it. Eating the flower, I created an imaginary story of how I was now going to turn into Flowerman, the most useless superhero in existence. When she pressed me on what his superpowers were, I made dumb shit up – if he walked on any natural ground – earth, grass – he wouldn’t be able to move anymore and would be stuck there, with his legs turning into roots and sticking into the ground.
  • I told her we should make cocktails at some point. We were discussing what you needed and I told her how frustrating it was when you needed to make a cocktail and you didn’t have the necessary ingredients on hand. She then brought up mint, and that the best thing about it was that you could grow it at home, but that you had to keep it alive. I turned this into an elaborate story, where if we went to the supermarket to buy mint, the checkout chick would know we had killed our ones at home, and so we needed to make sure we had our poker faces on to not arouse any suspicion. HBRocker then asked – “what’s the worst that could happen?”. I then proceeded to outline how the checkout chick, suspecting something was wrong, would finish serving us, then go to their supervisor, pretending to be sick. They would then leave, follow us home, confirm that the mint plants were dead, and then come to bang down our door while we were making sweet love to tell us they knew the whole time (I knew what I was doing with this one, putting the picture of us having sex into her head)
Stupid shit like this. It was funnier in person, the way I said it. And she was genuinely bent over cacking herself.

The pull

It was a high point. I told her we should go back to mine to watch “Orange is the New Black”, and she agreed with no resistance. Walked back. Remembered Velascos advice of using the bathroom beforehand, so I gave her a glass of water and went to the bathroom quickly, and also popped a boner pill (just to be safe). Sat on the couch, put on the show. 5 minutes in, I told her that I’d forgotten to play the psychology game with her. I used this as an excuse to look her in the eyes, and then kissed her which she embraced. She asked if this was part of the game. I said it was, but we couldn’t finish the rest of it here while the housemates were in earshot.

“Smooth”. Went upstairs, no LMR.

The sex

Quite good. Started off making out, fingered her, then went down on her. She was moaning loudly and started to shudder. She went down on me, then I grabbed a condom and put lube on. She told me I didn’t need to use lube but it was too late – it was a force of habit from sleeping with HBTall.

Went into adapted missionary for 5 minutes, she was being very loud. But my dick kept slipping out. Too much lube, and she was very wet.

I then told her to get on top. She started riding me like a champion. I looked her in the eyes.

Me: “I can’t wait to see you come”

HBRocker: “I think I already did. Your turn now”

Went for 5 more minutes, then I came.

We were sweating like crazy.

She slept over, and the next morning, we woke up, snuggled up close and started making out again. I told her to get on top, grabbed a condom (without lube this time) and she started riding me again.

This time, we came at the same time. It was incredible. That had never happened to me before.

At the end, she giggled. “Good morning! Hehe”

Post sex

She stayed a little longer. I offered breakfast but she declined and had to head home to nap. Told her to text me when she got home, and she did. Told her “Good to know Enjoy the nap and talk soon.

Later that day (Saturday), I went to the beach with HBTall, and came back and slept with her. It was the first time I’d ever slept with two girls in one day and felt weird. That Saturday was when HBTall confessed her feelings, saying that she couldn’t do it anymore, that she wanted to be exclusive. Full details on what happened here

2nd meet

I messaged her again Monday asking how were weekend was, made some light chit chat, and then invited her over for cocktails on Thursday. She agreed enthusiastically.

She came over. My housemates were there as well when she arrived. As a crazy coincidence, one of my housemates and her recognized each other. Turns out they had both done a modelling shoot with each other years ago. Small world!

They stepped out for dinner but came back super drunk and rowdy. It was fine though, HBRocker didn’t care and found it amusing. We joined the housemates for a drink and then went upstairs and slept together again. I don’t think I made her come this time, I was fucking out of it and exhausted. She had to get up early and we kissed each other goodbye.

My housemates told me that they loved her. She got along really well with them and was cool.

A bittersweet end

Those who might have been following my updates will know that I had a huge ordeal with HBTall who wanted to be exclusive. You can read it all here, but basically, yesterday I decided to try an LTR with her.

Sadly, this meant that I wouldn’t be able to see HBRocker again. I called her today and told her what had happened. It was heartbreaking hearing her so happy to hear from me, and then the dead silence and cracking of her voice when she had processed what I was saying. The call cut out and she thanked me over text for being honest with her, but then asked me why I had approached her if I was seeing someone. I explained that I had not expected this to happen, that it had all happened so fast. I then told her how awesome she was and how it had actually been such a difficult decision. I shouldn’t have written that last part. She simply responded “Fair enough. Well thanks, but I guess not awesome enough hey lol. All the beast Beam”

I actually teared up a little. I’d given this girl a fun escape for the last couple of weeks, and I’m sure she had been getting excited for more adventures. She was a really cool girl and it sucked having to do this.

This will be my last LR for a while I imagine, as I enter a new phase with HBTall.
 

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Gotta do what's best for you @Beam .... if it means going mono for a while then by all means do it.

But this is really sad for the rest of us as your text game was tight and you handled curve balls like Jet Li avoiding japanese punches on Fist of Legend lol. Great work man!
 

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Gotta do what's best for you @Beam .... if it means going mono for a while then by all means do it.

But this is really sad for the rest of us as your text game was tight and you handled curve balls like Jet Li avoiding japanese punches on Fist of Legend lol. Great work man!
Haha, appreciate it! Yeah, I think it's about time I got some LTR experience. Has already taught me quite a bit about myself and my life, just in the last week. Wonder what else it will uncover.
 

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Nicely done!

And I'm glad I'm not the only moron on here who's skipping out on perfectly good walking direct street stops because of AA! o_O haha

I like how you called her out before the actual opener. Smooth!
 

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Nicely done!

And I'm glad I'm not the only moron on here who's skipping out on perfectly good walking direct street stops because of AA! o_O haha

I like how you called her out before the actual opener. Smooth!
Cheers Ricardus! I can't take credit for calling her out the way I did. That is something I learned from HonestSignalz (a pickup youtuber)
 

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Sad to hear this is likely your last LR for some time, but I think it's great you're getting into a LTR with a girl that seems like such a great match to you. I feel like LTRs are very important for confidence even in other situations with girls that may seem totally unrelated, it gives you a real layer of confidence that you really are a man that can offer a girl something more (if you handle it corretly, of course, but I'm not worried about you hehe). And, who knows, maybe HBTall is the one for you, good luck.

Great report, cool to see we both have a weakness for HBRockers lol, maybe I would be getting into another LTR with mine if she didn't live so far away (I do plan on keep on seeing her though, when I can).

Cheers man!
 

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Cheers Ricardus! I can't take credit for calling her out the way I did. That is something I learned from HonestSignalz (a pickup youtuber)
Interesting... I like it because it starts the interaction off on a very dominant footing. I was all about that in my direct daygame. I'll have a look at the channel.
 

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Sad to hear this is likely your last LR for some time, but I think it's great you're getting into a LTR with a girl that seems like such a great match to you. I feel like LTRs are very important for confidence even in other situations with girls that may seem totally unrelated, it gives you a real layer of confidence that you really are a man that can offer a girl something more (if you handle it corretly, of course, but I'm not worried about you hehe). And, who knows, maybe HBTall is the one for you, good luck.

Great report, cool to see we both have a weakness for HBRockers lol, maybe I would be getting into another LTR with mine if she didn't live so far away (I do plan on keep on seeing her though, when I can).

Cheers man!
Cheers dude! She seems like a good match but part of me wonders if that's just because I've built myself up and become more attractive and comfortable in general, which has allowed her to become more comfortable herself. I'm guessing it's no surprise that I was dating two others who also felt really close to me (including HBRocker) at the same time, might have broken through to a new level where a lot of girls I meet are good matches because I have improved my ability to connect with them.

Haha, I remember reading about your HBRocker, maybe that was in the recesses of my mind when I was coming up with a nickname for her!
 

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Interesting... I like it because it starts the interaction off on a very dominant footing. I was all about that in my direct daygame. I'll have a look at the channel.
Your "Are you single" opener was ballsy. I tried it a couple of times but found it hard to pull off authentically, which made me respect your success with it a hell of a lot
 

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Thanks... but yeah, it's true, and it's the reason why I'm not doing direct daygame at all at the moment. I could push through the AA but I wouldn't be able to pull off that dominant vibe. Still working on re-gaining my state control in solo daygame.

I went through an interesting evolution with these openers btw.

Phase 1: I had too much AA to do direct game congruently (which is the case again now). So I focused on opportunities to play indirect sets.

Phase 2: Once I had picked up some momentum, I started to do direct game with the compliment openers everyone is still teaching these days, and gradually got better and better at that, and eventually made them work pretty well.

Phase 3: Then suddenly the compliment openers stopped working for me... I got blown out left and right. And my wing helped me realize that it was because they came across TOO confident. Too smooth. Like I do it all the time.

So I added some fake hesitation to the opener and acted like I'm thinking about what to say, pretended to be a little unsure... not of myself but of my next words. And then they REALLY started hooking hard. When I had both the confidence AND the totally off-the-cuff vibe with it.

Phase 4: Once your confidence is that high... that you have to actually fake a slight lack of confidence... that's when you're ready for these hard core ballsy openers. Then they will work. Otherwise they probably won't.

Pulse 60 as MasterOfDisaster told me in a daygame session once. Zero jitters. Eye of the storm. And THEN you will get shit tests. Stay unflinching... stay totally unphased and calm... and you will get a big attraction spike.

They say game isn't about yes-girls, it's about maybe-girls... but with this kind of approach I've even flipped some no-girls. It almost never happens to them.

-Karea.
 

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  • One of the cocktails had an edible flower in it. Eating the flower, I created an imaginary story of how I was now going to turn into Flowerman, the most useless superhero in existence. When she pressed me on what his superpowers were, I made dumb shit up – if he walked on any natural ground – earth, grass – he wouldn’t be able to move anymore and would be stuck there, with his legs turning into roots and sticking into the ground.
  • I told her we should make cocktails at some point. We were discussing what you needed and I told her how frustrating it was when you needed to make a cocktail and you didn’t have the necessary ingredients on hand. She then brought up mint, and that the best thing about it was that you could grow it at home, but that you had to keep it alive. I turned this into an elaborate story, where if we went to the supermarket to buy mint, the checkout chick would know we had killed our ones at home, and so we needed to make sure we had our poker faces on to not arouse any suspicion. HBRocker then asked – “what’s the worst that could happen?”. I then proceeded to outline how the checkout chick, suspecting something was wrong, would finish serving us, then go to their supervisor, pretending to be sick. They would then leave, follow us home, confirm that the mint plants were dead, and then come to bang down our door while we were making sweet love to tell us they knew the whole time (I knew what I was doing with this one, putting the picture of us having sex into her head)
Genuinely laughed at these. I can relate to this humor and need to remember to do this more. I like the subtle sexual seeds being planned too, no pun intended ;)
 

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Thanks... but yeah, it's true, and it's the reason why I'm not doing direct daygame at all at the moment. I could push through the AA but I wouldn't be able to pull off that dominant vibe. Still working on re-gaining my state control in solo daygame.

I went through an interesting evolution with these openers btw.

Phase 1: I had too much AA to do direct game congruently (which is the case again now). So I focused on opportunities to play indirect sets.

Phase 2: Once I had picked up some momentum, I started to do direct game with the compliment openers everyone is still teaching these days, and gradually got better and better at that, and eventually made them work pretty well.

Phase 3: Then suddenly the compliment openers stopped working for me... I got blown out left and right. And my wing helped me realize that it was because they came across TOO confident. Too smooth. Like I do it all the time.

So I added some fake hesitation to the opener and acted like I'm thinking about what to say, pretended to be a little unsure... not of myself but of my next words. And then they REALLY started hooking hard. When I had both the confidence AND the totally off-the-cuff vibe with it.

Phase 4: Once your confidence is that high... that you have to actually fake a slight lack of confidence... that's when you're ready for these hard core ballsy openers. Then they will work. Otherwise they probably won't.

Pulse 60 as MasterOfDisaster told me in a daygame session once. Zero jitters. Eye of the storm. And THEN you will get shit tests. Stay unflinching... stay totally unphased and calm... and you will get a big attraction spike.

They say game isn't about yes-girls, it's about maybe-girls... but with this kind of approach I've even flipped some no-girls. It almost never happens to them.

-Karea.

Interesting, think this is a common pattern people follow. Now you mention it, I actually did hit Phase 3 (girls started being more suspicious, asking if I did this all the time etc) last year and so I deliberately started making them a bit less smooth. Soon after that I started getting more confident and started experimenting by going up to girls and straight up telling them I thought they were hot, but in a dominant way. Almost across the board it made them giggle but didn't get any numbers with this approach. Think this was around the middle of last year. We started getting hit by a string of lockdowns for a good chunk of the year after that which killed my motivation/momentum and I never quite got back to that point again, which was a shame.

I also used to say "Glad we got to link up earlier/just before" in my icebrreaker ("earlier" if it was hours ago, "just before" if it was within an hour ago) but started adding an "Unexpected" to the front of it (like in this report). "Unexpected but great running into you earlier/just before" to again make it seem like this was a surprise to me and not something I did very often.
 

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Genuinely laughed at these. I can relate to this humor and need to remember to do this more. I like the subtle sexual seeds being planned too, no pun intended ;)
Haha, yeah. This is something I'm going to continue practicing with my gf.
 

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Haha, appreciate it! Yeah, I think it's about time I got some LTR experience. Has already taught me quite a bit about myself and my life, just in the last week. Wonder what else it will uncover.
Quick tip: once you two are settled and comfortable in the relationship, work her up to get into 3-somes.
IME most girls are secretively bi-sexuals, but they don't really think about it until the right guy comes up and get them out of the closet.

Just do it in baby steps and feel if she is receptable to the idea....you have a major advantage because she knows you are honest, a capable seducer and more than willing to separate commitment and sex.
 
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Quick tip: once you two are settled and comfortable in the relationship, work her up to get into 3-somes.
IME most girls are secretively bi-sexuals, but they don't really think about it until the right guy comes up and get them out of the closet.

Just do it in baby steps and feel if she is receptable to the idea....you have a major advantage because she knows you are honest, a capable seducer and more than willing to separate commitment and sex.
Hey POB, when you say "already in a relationship", are you talking about a BF/GF kinda deal, or do you mean just an FB relationship? Asking because you say "commitment" in your post. And if it's the former (BF/GF), I'd be curious do you have a thread somewhere on how you made this work with girls where you were already a couple?

I have tried to do that and couldn't make it work because the relationship was established in a monogamous frame, and then I had to deal with a lot of jealousy. Made me conclude this has to be done super, super early (kinda like sexually framing a set - I start doing that in the first 5-10 minute).

But I've had a couple of situations where we got into the bisexual topic very early, like after the first or second time we had sex, and then it was cool and the girls were up for tandem hunting threesomes together. Curious how you've done it with girls that were already in an established monogamous relationship with you (if that was indeed what it was, I can't quite tell from how you worded this).

Cheers!

-Karea.
 

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I have tried to do that and couldn't make it work because the relationship was established in a monogamous frame, and then I had to deal with a lot of jealousy.
If you start in a mono frame it instantly becomes 5-10x times harder to convert.
This is why you need to always have an open+seduction oriented frame from the first minute you meet her!
Plus you must keep it (and act on it when needed) all the way through the relationship.
(sorry if I wasn't clear)
 

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Same experience as mine, then. Yeah I agree... gotta be done early or it'll be difficult and annoying.
 
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