DarkKnight's quest for supremacy

DarkKnight

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Yeah so I barely if ever post on the journal but I was kind of fed up with game and more busy with other things.

I want to rego about nofapping. Each time when I fuck this up, I pay a price. During MMA there is really an INCREDIBLE difference between how I am when I am on abstinence and when I fucked up. When I fucked up my body doesnt want to listen to my commands, I am more slow, sluggish, I dont SEE that will I mean visually with my eyes. When on nofap what I notice is that I start taking more risks, am much faster, and much more persistence and insistence. I believe these things carry on socially as well. When you are on nofap people tend to respect you more, I believe this has to do with that you come off as more prepared, because people do not want to antagonize the wrong people right? But when you have relapsed you are more restrained and it shows, it shows on your body.

Each time when I have lost it, I fucked up. My car crashed (I am serious), I didnt get the effective social response I wanted, my training sucked. All kinds of things. So the price is quite fucking heavy. Then again when you do not have release for too long time... you get pent up and angry and overly agressive... which I already have a tendency to. And it is a bummer that I always come to this conclusion that this is bad for me, after thins have already gone haywire.

So I have come with a decision. On non-game or busy days (which is the problem I am always busy), I am allowed release in a certain interval. Lets call it 3 weeks. This can ONLY be done in an evening, beause then at the very least you have the entire night to recover from the drain you will feel. This way I will keep momentum right, because nofap it just draws bad luck some way and then you need to solve that again. My car crashed, I got fined for driving through a light, always... and then I mean ALWAYS on days I fuck up. A lot of people go on nofpa in order to attrat more girls. I dont believe in that filosophy that much except that nofap does make you more insistent and dominant. I rather ee it as a protective matter in order to not draw bad luck but rather high momentum.

I have decreased a lot of this bad habit, and I notice that I recover more fast from the drain... but nothing ofsetss that on the day of relapse you basically are a lesser you. One moment I am a tiger, the other moment I am like a drugged animal. This needs to be regulated.
 

DarkKnight

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Yeah definitely getting loads more interest and smiles and friendlyness.

Guys just to be clear: my other fundamentals are far above average as well, but regardless cut the sugar the benefits are really profound I feel very fresh as well.

I have clearly noticed that different social groups receive you in different ways... the past girls are tested in not optimal crowds... so I will have to test this in better crowds for me.
 

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Yeah so I barely if ever post on the journal but I was kind of fed up with game and more busy with other things.

I want to rego about nofapping. Each time when I fuck this up, I pay a price. During MMA there is really an INCREDIBLE difference between how I am when I am on abstinence and when I fucked up. When I fucked up my body doesnt want to listen to my commands, I am more slow, sluggish, I dont SEE that will I mean visually with my eyes. When on nofap what I notice is that I start taking more risks, am much faster, and much more persistence and insistence. I believe these things carry on socially as well. When you are on nofap people tend to respect you more, I believe this has to do with that you come off as more prepared, because people do not want to antagonize the wrong people right? But when you have relapsed you are more restrained and it shows, it shows on your body.

Each time when I have lost it, I fucked up. My car crashed (I am serious), I didnt get the effective social response I wanted, my training sucked. All kinds of things. So the price is quite fucking heavy. Then again when you do not have release for too long time... you get pent up and angry and overly agressive... which I already have a tendency to. And it is a bummer that I always come to this conclusion that this is bad for me, after thins have already gone haywire.

So I have come with a decision. On non-game or busy days (which is the problem I am always busy), I am allowed release in a certain interval. Lets call it 3 weeks. This can ONLY be done in an evening, beause then at the very least you have the entire night to recover from the drain you will feel. This way I will keep momentum right, because nofap it just draws bad luck some way and then you need to solve that again. My car crashed, I got fined for driving through a light, always... and then I mean ALWAYS on days I fuck up. A lot of people go on nofpa in order to attrat more girls. I dont believe in that filosophy that much except that nofap does make you more insistent and dominant. I rather ee it as a protective matter in order to not draw bad luck but rather high momentum.

I have decreased a lot of this bad habit, and I notice that I recover more fast from the drain... but nothing ofsetss that on the day of relapse you basically are a lesser you. One moment I am a tiger, the other moment I am like a drugged animal. This needs to be regulated.
I wouldn't be so quick to classify every bad thing that happens to you to be the cause of a relapse on nofap.

I believe the effects of a relapse are your dopamine levels temporarily going below the baseline (this can lead to low energy and drive, may explain the MMA problems) as well the psychological effects of going against your values (guilt, shame, depression), which I believe can definitely have a snowball effect and cause other issues.

A lot of guys get hard on themselves for relapsing but in my experience associating a relapse with negative emotions can actually trigger more relapses. I believe the best mindset is, "Yeah I fucked up, but look at how long of a streak I maintained and all of the benefits I felt. I'm going to focus on what I can do now to improve myself and not the temporary mistake I made"

I am allowed release in a certain interval. Lets call it 3 weeks.
I've tried this strategy before and it takes incredible willpower and discipline to maintain. Imagine an alcoholic telling himself he will only have a drink every three weeks. I'd imagine that alcoholic will be hooked after the first drink and won't be able to stop. He is an alcoholic after all.

Try to just go as far as you can and learn to not binge after your relapse.

I've done the 90 days before and I'm currently feeling the benefits of my streak.
on the day of relapse you basically are a lesser you

I agree with this, the oxytocin makes feel me more docile. That combined with the guilt, I feel like a pussy.

If you relapse once, your "feel good" nuerochemicals will temporarily be depleted but in a couple days baseline will return. Everything else is purely psychogical.

In my opinion, Nofap is more of a lifestyle than a permanent abstinence. Due to the accessibly of porn and our mortal flaws, on our worst days we may relapse. I even hear the nofap gurus will relapse, occasionally like after a year or two years.

The goal of nofap is to learn how to constructively deal with your urges. For example I go for walks or take a cold shower to reset my mind.

I think you already have enough of that vital intensity and drive in order to get things done, maybe some self forgiveness and self compassion when you mess up will make your streaks longer.

Best,

Lord Byron
 

DarkKnight

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I believe the effects of a relapse are your dopamine levels temporarily going below the baseline (this can lead to low energy and drive, may explain the MMA problems) as well the psychological effects of going against your values (guilt, shame, depression), which I believe can definitely have a snowball effect and cause other issues.
No, just no. You can very clearly move much less well after relapse. If you watch the old Rocky movies the coach tells Rocky not to have sexual intercourse before his fight in "it kills your legs". My workouts are extremely intense. I know the difference, it is far beyond just dopamine which is about firing up motivation, your body simply becomes sluggish due to being drained by whatever is vital to move well. Also when someone hits you and you are on a streak you can shrug it off better but when you have relapsed or even worse binged everything hurts, you can take blows less well. I am very experienced and had plenty of time to feel and see the difference. Even your vision gets affected. When on a streak without being conscious I seek more openings with the opponent and am generally more agressive even try moves which should be considered risky but the body knows it can pull it off so it does! And I am pretty sure if this happens in the physical realm similar things happen in the social realm as well.

I wouldn't be so quick to classify every bad thing that happens to you to be the cause of a relapse on nofap.
I don't agree there is definitely correlation here. More accidents due to being more sluggish, but also more social challenges because people can intuitively sense you are not as sharp as you should be. It is a bit like sharks when there is blood in the water, not as extreme but I think it is a good example.


Try to just go as far as you can and learn to not binge after your relapse.
I will do it my way, have some experience with nofap right now we even have an accountability room in the chat.

I think you already have enough of that vital intensity and drive in order to get things done
thank you

maybe some self forgiveness and self compassion when you mess up will make your streaks longer.
self compassion and forgiveness is not my style, this is how I motivate myself. This is my way.
 

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Afaik assuming you’re fit, according to studies, the hit from partnered sex lasts a matter of hours.
I’m not totally sure if it takes longer after masturbating, but IME how you do it really matters, as does how much energy of all kinds you have stored up.
 

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Wow I am kind of stunned with how much interest I am getting. So since Covid I have tried everything in my power to get my fundamentals back to the same level. Got new fly clothes, trained like hell, did everything in my power, nofap.. and apparently all I needed to do was control my diet. Ofcourse I have upgraded in other ways as well but I believe this has been the most significant change. It really felt like I was hitting a ceiling back there, apparently not. I thought perhaps it was age, or something else intangible 🤷🏻‍♂️

This is a lesson I won't forget any time soon.
 

DarkKnight

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Another female interruptor today with a girl who was totally hooked. I think I have increased my value somehow (?) and girls start to get jealous and want to sabbotage. I got rid of the interruptor made her come across silly with a like joke and then continued with the present girl 🤷🏻‍♂️. I already knew this chick liked me a lot so am not that surprised.

Gee, as if male wannabe amogs were not enough now I got to deal with jealous women
 

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I have noticed something interesting. I have been on a hot streak for months now everything is going very well and not to boast too much but I sometimes feel like a local celebrity with all the attention and interest I am getting. I have worked hard and strategically for this and finally all the covid rust has fallen off. This honestly took some time, but it seems I am in a new higher prime.

That being said I seem to attract more girls with boyfriends, but this new level of sexyness seems to make them engage into female state control as they probably want to be loyal. Intuitively I can sense this because they can get awkward and distant and I am damn sure I am attainable. So my cure is without being affected pull a bit back ,charm others and this seems to put them at ease and make them engage me again. Perhaps engaging others makes it "socially acceptable" again because I talk to others and it becomes a group like vibe?

Chase wrote on some articles that your genuine feelings bleed out, not so sure about this but I want to keep a cool head.

Anyway not necessarily gunning for these girls just seems to occur more often and it would be a mistake to see this as disinterest.

Something else,
In the past I would engage in harsh freeze outs when I notice someone attention seeking or not being sincere enough. These days I revert to being polite/friendly. Reason being is that real attention seekers work overtime to get back attention when I give a complete freeze out... and to be honest it is very annoying and obstructive. This new method seems to bring them less into repair mode. Then they can focus more on their orbitors :p , everyone wins hahah

There are more things to share but honestly I find those a bit private. This seduction journey is a hell of a thing..
 

DarkKnight

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Article about women and agency clears up so much. I had read this in the past, but rereading articles with new experiences tend to be illuminating
 

DarkKnight

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Basically it reduces foggy occurences where I intuitively act optimal, but the brain is unconsciously second guessing. Anyway women are not good at using guile for nothing, it is because we are susceptible to it so some doubt is normal I guess. Less doubt or none after realligning it with this new information though. We could say I am better calibrated right now.
 

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Addition, the fallacy of needing to act.

I believe in calibration, I really do. But sometimes it is just better to do NOTHING. Sometime ago, a girl I went up to first time broke off our conversation because she got distracted by other people. I ofcourse did not feel awfully respected and was already deciding on contingencies. So next time I see her I change my patterns a bit but nothing too extreme. Honestly I wasnt even really gaming her, just didnt like what I perceived as a snub. Next time I saw her I became bit more distant but nothing crazy and she totally surprised me by giving me heavy kino,connecting super hard taking my number without me prompting anything. I seem to become vengeful fast, but losing my last one itis due to this pattern of mine has taught me to temper it a bit. I lost that one for all the wrong reasons and also not understanding FSC which she had resolved herself in my absencre

Today I encountered something similar, a girl going from hot to cold so I was a bit wary, but girl is super compliant and warm to me again.

Why girls do this? I honestly have no idea as I know this is not due to attainability in these scenarios. But they seem to auto correct themselves. Perhaps it is a test, or mood. If you rocket scientists know you can tell me.

I wish I had known this a couple of years ago when I had encountered a girl I describe as thunderbolt. I have royally fucked that up. It is rare for me to feel that intensely. I saw before me how the girl autorejected hard and ejected and I went on a streak of sleeping with other girls in order to forget (hint it didnt work). I will never forget her last looks of anguish.
 
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