David Tian (Asian Rake) Thinks Game is Toxic

Chrance

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Apart from him spamming his links on Chase's website I actually see his tactics as ingenious. At this moment we have to consider this man as a salesman, NOT as a PUA. He is not occupied with principles or ideals except making some good bucks. In order to do this he has to appeal to a broader community hence avoid unsafe feeling words like pua and using more socially accepted terms. "Phd" Is just one of those.

I've known plenty of academics at one point and it struck me how they lived too much in their heads and not enough in the actual world. They seem to be unable to truly observe social occurences with their eyes, despite that less intelligent people could do so in the same situations. They tend to adapt real world facts to the intellectual paradigms by which they already live. This is a broad generalization but I have seen this unfold many times.

However again, academics is not relevant. This is MARKETING. Everything which can give him authenticity and authority helps especially when it goes with a socially accepted frame. Spamming this website gives him a bad rep though and is not what he should be going for.
This whole comment reminds me of the rise and prominence of the words “marketing”, “brand” and “sales” in the red-pill/manosphere community as well as in some PU spheres. Here’s a funny but truthful mix of words: marketing yourself as a salesman is bad branding

This is an agreement with your comment in case there’s any confusion. It’s just something I’ve noticed over the years. Former X needs to change “brand” to Y to keep money following. Every redpill or pua grifter I’ve viewed always chatted at some point about the significance of “branding”, “sales”, and “marketing”. Anyone imo who needs to emphasize or do a lot of branding, marketing or salesmanship rubs me the wrong way, like a guy who’s poorly spitting a routine (which I’m guilty of lmao) or mass approaching with no awareness.

I’m not familiar with this guy though, so I can’t deeply comment on his choices. Your comment just reminded me of all the money chasing that goes on, as well as all the PUAs ive read and even met who just so happened to be money chasers
 

DarkKnight

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Well, nothing wrong with some good old money chasing. However this guy pretty much kicks away the ladder which got him to the place where he is and although I understand his motives, he is alienating his old allies/ fellow seducers. But again we should not look at this from a idealistic viewpoint, since I am pretty sure he isn't. It's utter pragmatic capitalism.

Anyway I don't really judge, I guess this fellow heeds the phrase "everyone is on his own". I am certain he has already weighed the benefits and drawbacks of his new path. For some people this works out well.
 

Teevster

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PhD what? Haha
He has a PhD in complete bullshit field and his paper is only worth wiping ass with .
his PhD is on level of "underwater Greek basket weaving" Lmao
Not sure I agree here. Why would you call a PhD inpsychology bullshit?
 

Chase

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Actually, David's PhD is in something related to religious morality. Forget the exact title/niche.

He self-taught himself ancient Chinese so he could read the Analects of Confucius in the original language it was written. He's a smart guy, and a legitimate Confucian scholar.

Of course, as he is presenting himself as "Dr. David", people are probably going to assume his PhD is in something related to the field he currently operates in. But seduction is a space in general that does not attract many folks with a formal education in the field. My highest university educational attainment is a bachelor's in business management (minor: supply chain & information systems).

Anyway -- the blog comment spam is obviously some third world backlink service he hired to just build backlinks to a page he wants to rank higher in search, based on the sloppiness of it. We probably just ranked well for a term they Googled and wanted backlinks for.

Using any kind of credentials in selling anything is smart, from a marketing perspective. When I started building One Date & The Dating Artisan, the focus on research was originally in part to make the product come across as more legitimate, due to being able to claim "it's science based." Although what actually happened once I was in it was that the science began shaping the product -- connection became "attitude similarity", breaking rules became "arousal", and many other things made it in there and filled out the product we eventually made. So then it really did become heavily science-based (to the point where I was trying to find studies to back up almost every claim or recommendation I wanted to make, and in a few cases dropped some claims that seemed to be a little flimsier -- maybe something that worked for me but wouldn't work for most people, for instance).

So I can't really blame him too much for advertising himself as a PhD, even if his field isn't precisely relevant. More or less a case of "if you've got it, flaunt it."

Chase
 
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