You could not have posted this at a better time. I am just about to write some updates of the experiences I have had using old canned openers and routines. I feel I was an idiot for letting myself believe that routines/gambits were weird and the guys using it were weird and that the community evolved. But that's what everyone on Youtube was saying when I found the community few years ago.
Canned openers are the norm in social life.
Person A - Hi
Person B - How are you?
Persona A - Fine. And how are you?
Person B - Doing well.
Person A - Nice weather we're having...
I remember one natural that was part of my extended social circle had went some abandoned/urban ruin spot with his GF.
Him and his girl swore they saw a ghost.
He then retells the same story 10x, to 10 different groups of people. Some of them listened to it again.
He's literally one of the coolest people I've ever met.
Guys that don't go out a lot, don't see these "strange things". Turns out, what is weird/strange, is totally normal.
I've seen guys retell other people's jokes. I've heard tall tales. I've heard a lot of shit talking.
I really feel like it's outsider guys, critics, and newbs that don't truly understand what socialization looks like.
They think people talk like they do in movies and in books. Where every word is has meaning, and people don't talk over each other, and conversational threads don't fall away, or the general chaos of being in that situation.
And if you don't get socialization, understanding pick up (a specialized and more advanced form of socialization) is that much harder.
It can be done, see Tyler and see Todd Valentine, but most guys want to "flow" when it comes to pick up.
If I were to guess, most guys that get into pickup don't like "small talk" and don't like "schmoozing" and don't like "networking"
They find those things to be a chore, and the people who engage in those things to either be dumb or draining to talk to.
But a lot of my game, and I'd say a lot of the game for other guys, is done in the "middle spaces".
Opener
middle space
Transition
middle space
Lock In (Shout out to Glow)
middle space
Attraction Material
middle space
Logistics
middle space
More Attraction material
middle space
Qualification
middle space
She Buys In
middle space
He gives 90% Approval then 10% Withdrawal
middle space
Phase shift
I think the gurus call it "vibing", but it's having a chat with a girl that's flowing, but
not going anywhere logically, just emotionally.
And in that "space", it's the pauses, the purposeful making of eye contact, the purposeful emotional reaction, the touches, the "looks", the lean backs...
Those things really do enhance the words, and tend to say more about who you are, or at least round out the picture. But my style is about hitting all of these verbal and nonverbal angles at the same time. Keeping her guessing and off balance, not sure what's gonna happen next is basically being a good social media feed. The emotional spikes should be strong, but intermittent, but also she should have some type of input. There's probably a good bit about dolphin training...
I spent 3 years doing direct game. Though it has brought me some results, I am very one dimensional and my Game is predatory trying to look for solo girls in the day time and even at night not what Mystery, Style etc. were doing opening groups bamboozling them and holding court and winning everyone over. I just read your post on your blog where you defend old school routines and a light bulb went off in my head. I am just posting a report on what happened this week to me when I used routines in my journal. Do check that out as well. And thanks for being here and giving us youngsters some wise old advice!
Anytime. Chase and Co have basically kept pick up alive in these dark times where everyone is sending corny Tinder openers or pretending to be Dan Bilzerian on the 'Gram so they can slide into the dm's (barf). I won't even go into how the Red Pill guys have destroyed the idea of "value".
WIA