Does anyone approach 18 year olds!?

[average_daygamer]

Guys, now it has to be said.

It was A level results week here in the UK and I finished work so I decided to stay on in the small city in which I work, daygame and nightgame in.

I decided to stay and see what the nightlife was like on Thursdays.

It was almost exclusively 18 year olds in huge groups, 4 sets, 3 sets and the occasional pair. Ample volume, too much, in fact. Some more mature looking ones who looked really stunning but a lot of them looked underaged, I would blitz right past them in daygame and not even consider approaching them.

Even in nightgame I can't bring myself to approach some of them.

On top of that, they are really loud and obnoxious and only seem to be interested in alcohol and bright lights. And, generally, I get rejected a lot as well, to the extend of making me not want to bother after about 5 approaches.

Am I being too hard on myself for finding them off putting or am I making excuses?

I am really curious to know if seduction even works on these types of very hot but very annoying night time party girls.

Honestly the figures some of the hotter ones have you simply wouldn't believe, I saw some real beauties but just thought "what the fuck is the point" after a few blowouts from them.

 

[Ratata]

Sounds like you're coming at this from the entirely wrong angle.

I'm 46 and I still approach 18 year olds. Moreover, it's well within the safe legal limits of my country. If you're in the USA, probably stick to >20 year olds mkay.

If you're an older guy (and by that I mean older than 35), you're kinda "illegal" also to them, which is why it's so dirty and fun. From there you can flirt, and make out with them or even bring them home. I love doing this when they're calmed down a bit around McD or Burger King (yes, really! best pickup point for 18 year olds lol).

If you're just in your 20's or early 30's and you think you're being tested when they call you out for being geriatric - and they will call you out for it - just remember that guys like me are around lol. Which means that whatever bs they're flinging at you is just a shit test. Just laugh it off. Tell them you're 69 years old and laugh when they go "nooo wayyyy!" Tell them dumb stuff like "yeah my plastic surgeon is really great, you want his number?"

With an emphasis on dirty and fun. Are you having fun when approaching like that? Are they? If not, then you might as well not do it at all. The question of fun is super important, because it is the prerequisite of whether you're coming on to them as a beggar, or as someone who's actually offering value.

Pop quiz for you: If a beggar cames up to you, drunk, beer breath, obviously fleas on him; how would you react? Perhaps you'd have a bit of sympathy ... but if he then went onto try to put his tongue down your throat. Well here's hoping that you'd be disgusted. This is how these girls feel about you when you come onto them with a begging or taking attitude. Taking as in that you want something from them, their validation, that they'll like you (omg I hope they're like me oh no I'll cry myself to sleep tonight if they don't like boo hoo), or that they'll in the least accept you for long enough for them to let you talk to their fat friend.

So, the number one thing you should ask yourself even before attempting to approach is: Are you a value taker, or a value giver? If you're the former, you will get shut down. Hard.

The first sign that you're a value taker: You're feeling nervous. You're not loosy goosy. You're giving a shit. You feel that if you say the wrong thing to her, she might reject you. You're subconsciously making her have more value in your mind than she really has, and suddenly it becomes super important to impress her.

If you have these feelings, you've already failed. So, how do you get out of it? Self amusement, buddy. And being really curious about other people - in general. And being social. Keeping up that social momentum. And not caring so much if you happen to offend someone when you're just socialising and trying to have a good time in general. Cuz that's on them and not you.

See now? Your angle, you've gotta fix your angle.

Best!

 

[POB]

Sounds like you're coming at this from the entirely wrong angle.

I'm 46 and I still approach 18 year olds. Moreover, it's well within the safe legal limits of my country. If you're in the USA, probably stick to >20 year olds mkay.

If you're an older guy (and by that I mean older than 35), you're kinda "illegal" also to them, which is why it's so dirty and fun. From there you can flirt, and make out with them or even bring them home. I love doing this when they're calmed down a bit around McD or Burger King (yes, really! best pickup point for 18 year olds lol).

If you're just in your 20's or early 30's and you think you're being tested when they call you out for being geriatric - and they will call you out for it - just remember that guys like me are around lol. Which means that whatever bs they're flinging at you is just a shit test. Just laugh it off. Tell them you're 69 years old and laugh when they go "nooo wayyyy!" Tell them dumb stuff like "yeah my plastic surgeon is really great, you want his number?"

With an emphasis on dirty and fun. Are you having fun when approaching like that? Are they? If not, then you might as well not do it at all. The question of fun is super important, because it is the prerequisite of whether you're coming on to them as a beggar, or as someone who's actually offering value.

Pop quiz for you: If a beggar cames up to you, drunk, beer breath, obviously fleas on him; how would you react? Perhaps you'd have a bit of sympathy ... but if he then went onto try to put his tongue down your throat. Well here's hoping that you'd be disgusted. This is how these girls feel about you when you come onto them with a begging or taking attitude. Taking as in that you want something from them, their validation, that they'll like you (omg I hope they're like me oh no I'll cry myself to sleep tonight if they don't like boo hoo), or that they'll in the least accept you for long enough for them to let you talk to their fat friend.

So, the number one thing you should ask yourself even before attempting to approach is: Are you a value taker, or a value giver? If you're the former, you will get shut down. Hard.

The first sign that you're a value taker: You're feeling nervous. You're not loosy goosy. You're giving a shit. You feel that if you say the wrong thing to her, she might reject you. You're subconsciously making her have more value in your mind than she really has, and suddenly it becomes super important to impress her.

If you have these feelings, you've already failed. So, how do you get out of it? Self amusement, buddy. And being really curious about other people - in general. And being social. Keeping up that social momentum. And not caring so much if you happen to offend someone when you're just socialising and trying to have a good time in general. Cuz that's on them and not you.

See now? Your angle, you've gotta fix your angle.

Best!

45 here.
I really don't give a shit if they talk about my age.
Some counters I like to use:
Yeah, I'm a senior..funny thing is when the nurse turns around it always increases the size of my cane
Was born in the 70s, best time for drugs and free love...should see 3 year old me holding the pipe, a flower and a titties magazine while mom rocked the baby crib : )

 

[gameboy]

Sounds like you're coming at this from the entirely wrong angle.

I'm 46 and I still approach 18 year olds. Moreover, it's well within the safe legal limits of my country. If you're in the USA, probably stick to >20 year olds mkay.

If you're an older guy (and by that I mean older than 35), you're kinda "illegal" also to them, which is why it's so dirty and fun. From there you can flirt, and make out with them or even bring them home. I love doing this when they're calmed down a bit around McD or Burger King (yes, really! best pickup point for 18 year olds lol).

If you're just in your 20's or early 30's and you think you're being tested when they call you out for being geriatric - and they will call you out for it - just remember that guys like me are around lol. Which means that whatever bs they're flinging at you is just a shit test. Just laugh it off. Tell them you're 69 years old and laugh when they go "nooo wayyyy!" Tell them dumb stuff like "yeah my plastic surgeon is really great, you want his number?"

With an emphasis on dirty and fun. Are you having fun when approaching like that? Are they? If not, then you might as well not do it at all. The question of fun is super important, because it is the prerequisite of whether you're coming on to them as a beggar, or as someone who's actually offering value.

Pop quiz for you: If a beggar cames up to you, drunk, beer breath, obviously fleas on him; how would you react? Perhaps you'd have a bit of sympathy ... but if he then went onto try to put his tongue down your throat. Well here's hoping that you'd be disgusted. This is how these girls feel about you when you come onto them with a begging or taking attitude. Taking as in that you want something from them, their validation, that they'll like you (omg I hope they're like me oh no I'll cry myself to sleep tonight if they don't like boo hoo), or that they'll in the least accept you for long enough for them to let you talk to their fat friend.

So, the number one thing you should ask yourself even before attempting to approach is: Are you a value taker, or a value giver? If you're the former, you will get shut down. Hard.

The first sign that you're a value taker: You're feeling nervous. You're not loosy goosy. You're giving a shit. You feel that if you say the wrong thing to her, she might reject you. You're subconsciously making her have more value in your mind than she really has, and suddenly it becomes super important to impress her.

If you have these feelings, you've already failed. So, how do you get out of it? Self amusement, buddy. And being really curious about other people - in general. And being social. Keeping up that social momentum. And not caring so much if you happen to offend someone when you're just socialising and trying to have a good time in general. Cuz that's on them and not you.

See now? Your angle, you've gotta fix your angle.

Best!

Bookmarked this and going to come back and re-read it from time to time. Thanks for a great reply! (I'm 51 myself)