Does the arousal date type contradict core GC concepts?

[Witcher]

Hello everyone,

Studying seduction from the many GC resources I find myself confused about the arousal date template(mentioned in One date and in chase newsletter). For the short description, and arousal date is a date for girls who need arousal, and it involves doing exciting activities like an escape room, going to a comedy show.

As far as my current understanding goes it this type of date template contradicts some key aspects of Girls Chase teachings like sprezzatura, "Not over providing good feeling" and the 5 Cs. Also, Chase, and most senior members usually advocate in almost all the articles about dates that we should not go for dates that involve fun activities but rather go for low key dates that focus on connecting and then pull (a hookup date basically).

So I'm a little bit confused about all of this and hope that some of you may help me clear this out

Thanks!

 

[Velasco]

a date for girls who need arousal

go for low key dates

+ https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-arouse-girl-sexy-nonverbals
+ https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-use-sex-talk-set-sexual-tone-and-mood

Coffee shop 2 minutes away from sex location >>> escape room/comedy show 30 minutes aways from sex location.

 

[DarkKnight]

Basically wanted to say the same, creating arousal doesn't mean becoming a dancing monkey aka an entertainer. If I recall correctly in the OneDate program examples of arousal creating behaviours should be present.

Also Velasco's link of Richard's article is pretty killer.

 

[Witcher]

@Velasco
Thanks for the links! Still working on getting sexy non-verbals. However, for Sex talk my biggest Steaking point is at what moment of the conversation I should do it, Middle(then moving to another subject) or in the end just before the suggestion a venue change?

Basically wanted to say the same, creating arousal doesn't mean becoming a dancing monkey aka an entertainer. If I recall correctly in the OneDate program examples of arousal creating behaviours should be present.

Also Velasco's link of Richard's article is pretty killer.

@DarkKnight , Yes One Date suggests that arousal creating behaviors should always be a present event in any date template and if you want to get good results it actually better to not be a dancing monkey. However, my question wasn't about that but was more about the arousal date type that suggests an arousing activity as the main event, which confused me since most article suggests avoiding that in almost all articles.

 

[DarkKnight]

Hey Witcher, it's been some time since I read that material (which means I should review it again since one tends to get new insights and perspectives.) So I cannot actively argue anymore what was especially the content, but I would use non verbal behaviours to show off my rebellious side (which I am by default) in a way which seems congrous with who I am and thus low apparent effort.

By the way I really like the studious way in which you approach seduction like a true student trying to master something. It's apparent how you take things seriously. Respect.

 

[ulrich]

Not necessarily.

Most articles insist that you go on dates that allow for deep diving (cafe, drinks, dinner) because they are more conductive to build similarity.
Similarity is usually the first thing you want to build and if you are a beginner, the one that is easiest to learn and will reap the biggest learning opportunities.
A girl who has similarity with you will give you more chances, cut you more slack and have wider windows of opportunities.

That being said, sometimes the girl you’re dealing with already knows you somewhat well (similarity is already given) or for some reason you notice that she needs arousal more urgently.
This is far from the majority of times.

So the arousal date is an extension of what the older articles were saying.

Older articles: “Always start with a similarity date/deep diving”
One Date: “Unless you’re sure similarity won’t move the needle, then go for arousal (or compliance in very specific cases)”

 

[Witcher]

Hey everyone,

Thanks for your answers. Apology for the late follow-up I was in kind of online hiatus that is now kind of ending because of the quarantine. We can't meet girls now but it's the perfect opportunity to study theory and other stuff in meantime so when things get back to normal we will be better!

By the way I really like the studious way in which you approach seduction like a true student trying to master something. It's apparent how you take things seriously. Respect.

Thank you @DarkKnight this is appreciated! Yes, I am taking a very deliberate skill and strategic based approach to seduction. Since like all these doing certain things in certain ways can get us different results. I am committed to learn and master the ones that will give me the best results at least most of the time.

Hey Witcher, it's been some time since I read that material (which means I should review it again since one tends to get new insights and perspectives.) So I cannot actively argue anymore what was especially the content, but I would use non verbal behaviours to show off my rebellious side (which I am by default) in a way which seems congruous with who I am and thus low apparent effort.

and me asking about something technical and specific without providing a good example is not the best way to get the most of the forum I guess. So I could find an example of Date templates that is not in the One Date programme but in Chase free newsletter. So I guess it will be okay to post it here. So :

DATE #1: OFF LIMITS

Now, first off.
I don't want you breaking any laws here.

But for this date, what you're going to do is look for somewhere OFF LIMITS you can bring girls to.

Then bring them there

I've done this with different spots over the years.

When I lived by the beach, I had a spot at the bottom of the stairs, down on the sand, I used to take girls too.

There were signs posted to tell you no one was allowed on the beach after sundown. But I'd sneak down there with girls anyway.

I always kept a towel in the trunk of my car (towels come in handy more often than you might think). I'd just grab that, grab the girl, and march down to the nighttime beach.

In unfamiliar cities, I've improvised off limits places.

Once I stole into an empty school building after dark with a girl when we noticed there was no guard in the guard booth outside.

Another time I climbed a 12 foot fence to go skinny dipping in a closed and gated pool with a girl.

I've hopped over little gated off parts of bars and restaurants with dates when no one was looking, and snuck them around hidden corners.

The sole key to this date is that you take a girl somewhere OFF LIMITS.

If possible, you will want to save the off limits part of the date till the end.

Run a standard arousal date until you're ready for the off limits portion.

Then take this girl somewhere she knows she's not supposed to be.

Don't do anything that'll get the two of you in trouble, of course. Don't be dumb about it.

However, when you can get a girl alone with you somewhere she knows she's not supposed to be... and she's an arousal seeker girl?

You're SET.

She's YOURS.

If you can't make the off limits part happen at the end of the date, and it has to be in the middle, this is still okay.

There's a bit of a comedown from the high of going somewhere off limits.

But a lot of the time the halo effect will hang around for a bit, and you will still be able to get intimate with her after that once you do have her alone.


DATE #2: COMEDY CLUB

Our second arousal date?

The comedy club.

How's that an arousal date, you might ask? Comedy doesn't seem particularly arousing.

Well, here's the thing. Take a girl to a good show, and she will laugh her little rump off.

The environment is dark. It's fairly intimate. Easy for you to get your arm around her and get closer and closer to her and touch her more and more as the show goes on.

No, you're not going to sleep with her in the comedy club.

(well, unless you can figure out a way to do that!)

Instead, you are just going to associate your touch with all the laughter and excitement the comedy show provides.

The arousal she feels from your touch mixes with the arousal the laughter generates with her. And then her arousal shoots through the ROOF.

Remember what we talked about inside the course with misattribution of arousal?

If you don't remember, or you don't have One Date yet, a 1981 study by Tesser and Reardon found all sorts of arousal "mix together" (or, more properly, are undifferentiated) in the brain.

It's then up to the brain to decide what the source of the arousal is.

If you're touching her lots during a comedy show, both the arousal from your touch AND the comedy show arousal get pinned to YOU.

She gets a huge dose of arousal, all which she anchors to you... and is more or less "ready to go" by the end of the show.

Take her for a walk or a drink before the comedy show to build a little similarity and compliance.

If she's an arousal seeker, you won't need much more than a little.

Then take her to the comedy show, get your arm around her, and sit back and let the guy on stage do all the work for you.

Fun times, no?


DATE #3: ESCAPE ROOM

Escape rooms are a relatively new phenomenon, but AWESOME for arousal.

If you've ever played one of those "escape the room" games online, where you have to look for clues or solve puzzles, that's what an escape room is.

The difference is it's in REAL LIFE. It's physical. It's a place you actually go to.

Escape rooms have puzzles you and the girl you're with have to solve before time runs out. Find a lost key to unlock a door, read a code using a stroboscope, etc.

There's the urgency of having to complete the puzzles in time.

There's nonstop opportunity to run your arousal date STRUCTURE while you're trying to figure these puzzles out.

And there's the physical MOMENTUM of combing the room to look for clues (a 2014 study on flamenco dancers showed moving around with a sexy partner, as you'd expect, arouses those in motion).

All these elements combine to create some really fun, really arousing dates, PERFECT for any arousal seeker girl you hit it off with.

After you escape the place (or get kicked out for failing to escape), just take her home to decompress and recount your adventures.

And take things intimate, of course.

@uriel

Not necessarily.


That being said, sometimes the girl you’re dealing with already knows you somewhat well (similarity is already given) or for some reason, you notice that she needs arousal more urgently.
This is far from the majority of times.

So the arousal date is an extension of what the older articles were saying.

Older articles: “Always start with a similarity date/deep diving”
One Date: “Unless you’re sure similarity won’t move the needle, then go for arousal (or compliance in very specific cases)”

Your approach makes more sense, so the arousal date would be the thing to do when the classical way doesn't work. More of an occasional strategy that the main date. Thanks!