FRs/LRs of Italian/Portuguese/Spanish Girls on Skilled Seducer

[Atlas IV]

Girls had plenty of resistance, where genuinely les comfortable hooking up, and were a bit more sceptic dealing with foreign men.

If that was before covid, it's even more so now. I am in a large city where I am one of the few foreigners, and although they are very friendly, people seem quite skeptical around me. Even asking for small things (a photo, etc) I often get politely turned down. The vibe I get here is friendly but guarded. Social circles are tightly knit, and there is a very high premium on your "perceived value" (as I have learned from a Chinese gamer).

PS: not saying Thailand is hard - I do consider it easier than Europe. China is a different story - China can be rough.

China really is a whole different beast. I'm a white guy speaking Mandarin, fairly tight fundamentals and plenty of decent lays here, and I'm still getting some very sharp rejections. The good thing is I am learning fast (thanks partly to studying Chinese game material which I will soon share with the forum - it follows a rather different logic, though is really just another approach to frame control in respect to China's social dynamics).

Thailand is gentle. Girls never reject harshly. For that reason, it's actually not a great place to learn, because you will rarely know what it was that you did wrong. Guys there keep making the same mistakes, not realizing that they're mistakes. It's a good place to get laid, a bad place to sharpen your skills.

 

[RisingCane]

Bumping this because @Chase actually wrote an article on the site and quoted me, woo!

Why Tourists, Freshman, FOBs, and New-in-Town Girls Are So Easy to Pick Up

Some girls are easier to pick up than others. But why is this so? Why are the high status local girls always harder? There are 4 reasons why. Commenting on the Skilled Seducer Forum, forum member RisingCane observes: So many of the guys I have met over the years in the Game community seem to go...

www.girlschase.com

Interesting to see that white women are somewhat lower status or at least not as stuck up in Asia. As someone in Miami, I am starting to wonder if I made the wrong move to live more in Miami itself and should strongly consider moving to Miami Beach. The part of Miami I am in (Gables/Grove area) does not get nearly as many tourists but has a ton of locals who are wealthy, high status, or college kids.

Freshman girls that go to UM prefer to live on campus so as a guy not in college, you are only running into older college girls who are usually taken.

I have been reconnecting with some old Wings of mine as well as guys I used to game with. So many of them are saying how even when compared to Brickell (Miami's hottest neighborhood), Miami Beach itself cannot be beat for trying to meet DTF women. You get tourists left and right who are only here for the weekend and it is a great place to find women who are more open to being approached and picked up.

Maybe Game Legends from Miami like @Skills can give their take on this but I am thinking of getting to the point where I throw away life in a high quality apartment which my roommate and I got for a good price and go for a lower quality one in Miami Beach.

Gaming at Regatta just isn't doing it for me, the venue seems quite cliquey. I will give it a few more months with what I have learned on this site with Game and see where that takes me but it might be time for a move.

 

[RisingCane]

No, because...



Observations from men using dating apps are of no interest to me. Social circle and cold approach all the way baby.

Furthermore, fun fact, there are barely french women on dating apps in france. Mostly mediocre looking (at best) expats. The rest are mostly prostitutes - in the vast majority from Eastern europe/south america - mostly Peru, Venezuela etc (this latter category include the many trannies). Despite being foreigner, many do speak decent french.

The only French girls on apps are usually using it to promote their instagram.

Edit: Tinder is not popular in the french population. They have a local dating app that is more popular with the locals (still pretty meh). Expats/tourists rarely use it.

-Teevster

From speaking with him and having him show me the receipts when we met, a great deal of his lays are French. Albeit, more girls from outside of Paris than from Paris but he has layed Parisian girls as well. On his IG, he has shown me some who have sent him aggressive DMs.'

He does go out and approach but not exactly in the PUA type of way of daygame sessions. He says he sort of goes out to places he hears are good and just talks to women there.

While you are ultimately the final authority on all things Game in France, I do find it a bit strange that you have not met any British or American men who have managed to do well in France. I actually know of one British guy in his early 20s who I met through the Game Chat that did well when he visited Paris. If he is open to coming onto this forum I am going to see if I can get him on here to give his experience.

However you did make a good point, perhaps direct and aggressive cold approach Game does not work on Mediterranean and French girls. The British guy and I have debated for ages on whether direct or indirect game is better, he is a big fan of indirect game.

My Mexican American friend is a social guy and naturally connects with everyone whenever we have gone out. Dudes warm up to him and are cool with introducing him to women and so he builds what you would call social proof fast. I would imagine he is doing this with nightlife venues in Paris and that is what is getting him results.

So while he is aggressive and direct, he does seem to have a way to frame it in a way where people find it funny and cute rather than feral caveman.

But at the end of the day, what matters is the take of guys who have:

1. Gotten the girls in question
2. Have gamed in the area in question

I am going to share a bit about that in a few with my recent trip to Europe

 

[RisingCane]

I recently went to Prague for a week to help an old PUA friend that I winged with run a bootcamp. While I did have a good time and got laid, there were a few things I found that I thought I could share on this thread. If needed, maybe I share them on a thread of its own.

1. Czech girls were noticeably warmer when you opened them but if you tried to close them, different story. They would either not give the number or they would flake hard. It seems the opposite of American and Western women who will not even talk to you unless they have intentions of hooking up.

In nightlife, I notice that bouncing girls from one venue to the next was easy but closing was once again hard.

2. Nightgame in Prague was abnormally difficult, like if you did not pull in the first half of the night, forget about it. Streets were littered with drunk Brits, a few even fighting and just hooligan behavior in general. If someone was to tell me Prague is harder than London or Paris for Game, I'd even believe them.

There were a lot of tourist guys, mainly Italian and British cold approaching while drunk so the b1tch shields were up by a lot. Lots of girls in mixed groups too so pulling became tough. Although all of us did pull in the week, we realized that our weakpoint was ultimately pulling itself. We let a few promising sets end because we did not pull soon enough and just kept on talking instead.

3. Call it my standards because I approached only the hottest girls but I noted down all of my approaches. Of the 50 or so I did (slightly over or slightly under), it was rare I'd approach an American or British girl. Almost all my daygame approaches were either Czech, some kind of Slavic, Ukrainian, or Russian. Maybe the American and Western women get washed hard when it comes to looks? Did approach a Parisian 2-set that was bitchy but at the same time, one of the guys on the bootcamp had a pleasant experience with one.

4. Russian and Ukrainian had a bad reputation attached to it in Prague. Took girls to a club right next to where we were staying, seconds later they wanted to get out because "too many Russians" or "its too Russian".

 

[Skills]

Bumping this because @Chase actually wrote an article on the site and quoted me, woo!

Why Tourists, Freshman, FOBs, and New-in-Town Girls Are So Easy to Pick Up

Some girls are easier to pick up than others. But why is this so? Why are the high status local girls always harder? There are 4 reasons why. Commenting on the Skilled Seducer Forum, forum member RisingCane observes: So many of the guys I have met over the years in the Game community seem to go...

www.girlschase.com

Interesting to see that white women are somewhat lower status or at least not as stuck up in Asia. As someone in Miami, I am starting to wonder if I made the wrong move to live more in Miami itself and should strongly consider moving to Miami Beach. The part of Miami I am in (Gables/Grove area) does not get nearly as many tourists but has a ton of locals who are wealthy, high status, or college kids.

Freshman girls that go to UM prefer to live on campus so as a guy not in college, you are only running into older college girls who are usually taken.

I have been reconnecting with some old Wings of mine as well as guys I used to game with. So many of them are saying how even when compared to Brickell (Miami's hottest neighborhood), Miami Beach itself cannot be beat for trying to meet DTF women. You get tourists left and right who are only here for the weekend and it is a great place to find women who are more open to being approached and picked up.

Maybe Game Legends from Miami like @Skills can give their take on this but I am thinking of getting to the point where I throw away life in a high quality apartment which my roommate and I got for a good price and go for a lower quality one in Miami Beach.

Gaming at Regatta just isn't doing it for me, the venue seems quite cliquey. I will give it a few more months with what I have learned on this site with Game and see where that takes me but it might be time for a move.

Brah! stay in that apartment and drive and take and/or take an ubber to south beach... if you want to game in south beach, you are 15-20 minutes drive from south beach.... I was in Kendall which is way farther than you, and i was pulling like crazy from south beach....

this idea "tourist" from your wings, is not all were you going to get your laids from.... Influx of HOT tourist (no all tourist are hot, sorry to break it to you).... Occurs during major concert, big holidays, events and festival....

you will not make a living from tourist, you are not a hot colombian hot girls banging gringos brah!

I went to 2 colleges Miami dada community college and Florida international university..... Never bang girls from there that i met while in college, i met them on parites and clubs, same with the girls i banged from university of Miami....

Miami, have 100s of clubs, you need to keep searching and testing and going to different venues till you see one that logistically make sense, obviously regatta is not it as you have field tested...

moving to south beach for "tourist" is retarded a bit of cope.... you don't need to move to south beach and give up your apt. cause your ex wing told you to move to south beach to find tourist dtf, which i find ridiculous the whole idea....

Again how about you go to south beach, field test venue see how it goes.... Then AFTER, (which again makes no sense to me), if you start getting succes move over there... most tourist you bang in their own hotel (most of the time btw)...

forgot a lot of the lays happened at beach(is right there logistically easy)....

 

[RisingCane]

@Skills I get what you are saying man but the logistics is screwing me over. The drive from Miami Beach to The Grove/Gables is insane and dates I get who are staying at the beach do not want to make that drive. However, it never did occur to me that I can meet them for wine or drinks near where they live and bang in their place. From my own experience doing daygame, I found Lincoln Rd produced some of the hottest girls that were receptive to me and give me a number as well as a date. Brickell had a slightly more stuckup sort of a vibe and a lot more locals.

However, going to what @Chase also said about getting higher quality locals, I wonder how many of us are willing to make that investment in social circle.

I worked to build up my social circle in the past few months and while I have had some great experiences, I am finding that it is very much anti-Game in the sense that women constantly whine about f*ckboys and every chick is begging for that LTR.

I'll have to see but so far in The Grove, I am finding that maybe it is the influx of old people and cliquey college kids but the atmosphere is very Conservative when it comes to sex and getting laid. However, I have not explored it all the way so I am going to do something.

I am going to do 50 daygame approaches in The Grove, all direct, and note down the reception I get. Then I will do 50 in Miami Beach and 50 in Brickell, maybe throw Wynnwood in there too.

@Skills you can ask me how they are going in the coming weeks and months if you see me slippin bro but I am going to write about this too lol.

 

[Teevster]

From speaking with him and having him show me the receipts when we met, a great deal of his lays are French. Albeit, more girls from outside of Paris than from Paris but he has layed Parisian girls as well. On his IG, he has shown me some who have sent him aggressive DMs.'

He does go out and approach but not exactly in the PUA type of way of daygame sessions. He says he sort of goes out to places he hears are good and just talks to women there.

While you are ultimately the final authority on all things Game in France, I do find it a bit strange that you have not met any British or American men who have managed to do well in France. I actually know of one British guy in his early 20s who I met through the Game Chat that did well when he visited Paris. If he is open to coming onto this forum I am going to see if I can get him on here to give his experience.

I still have not seen a british get laid with a french chick in Paris. Could it happen? yes. Has it happened? very very likely. Is it the norm? not according to my experience. Exceptions do not make the rule.

PS: girls from outside of Paris are different. I am near Lyon right now, and it is like being in a different country.

-Teevster

 

[ChrisXKiss]

This is such a great thread.

Just wanted to mention how useful it is to talk about the differences of gaming girls in/from different countries.

I have been following certain US coaches and although their advice is probably solid in general, it always felt too much for most girls in the central European country I live.

And then I started getting into the thinking that they get results so I am probably not executing their tactics well and I should be even more cocky or arrogant, and neg more which doesn’t make it any better.

I guess I may also find this kind of game more fun sometimes, but I should try to calibrate even more to the environment. And @Teevster your advice regarding Swedish women is gold. I just love the looks of the girls from Scandinavia but was rarely able to hook them. Would you say that girls from countries like Austria/Switzerland/Germany are similar? Because that is the general vibe they give me.

I now wonder how many girls could have actually been into me if I approached in another way and not focused so much on being direct and playful. Because for a long time I thought that if they don’t respond to some fun teasing they are probably not into my fundamentals, but it could be that with a more patient indirect approach my hooks would be better.

 

[Teevster]

Would you say that girls from countries like Austria/Switzerland/Germany are similar? Because that is the general vibe they give me.

We often associate scandinavia with germanic cultures, but they are slightly different. It is hard to describe it - just a feel think.

But in general, yes germanic countries like the ones you list tend to be similar in the sense that cocky funny lines do not work at all. However, there are major differences between all these countries. To mention germany, you can head to Berlin and win points on being all artistic and philosophical and edgy. Then you can head south to Munich and just flash money (but germanically, not not oil-rich arab style of course). The same goes for Switzerland especially around Zurich and Geneva. But Geneva is more "French" (shots fired), and have this french warmth to the vibe, compared to the more germanic cold (cold on the surface only of course). French-inspired culture is by default more physical - however physical game (pure physical) was actually pioneered in modern day East Berlin!

Verbal game work well in both the countries you list. In fact, my game requires very little calibration when heading to germany or Switzerland. I can't reckon having to do any change in Austria - although only been there once for a short stay (took the train to Bratislava - hotter girls - no offence). Basically teasing, cocky funny, and backhanded humour... is something i have had little success with in both Scandinavia and germanic countries. NLP related stuff ("verbal game) is something that works great in in central Europe - especially germanic countries - at least in my experience (I only have experience from Berlin, Munchen, Köln, Dusseldorf, Vienna, Geneva - too much experience from Geneva, and Zürich).

Fun fact: I am in Switzerland as we speak lol.

it always felt too much for most girls in the central European country I live.

Well good thing Chase tried to get writers from different part of the world to write for him

On my end, I do pick up in very similar context to you.

-Teevster

 

[RisingCane]

See this is something we do not talk about enough in game that I really think we should. The culture and part of the world you are in matters so much and I refuse to take anyone seriously unless they acknowledge this. So much Game advice in the past years has been centered around PUAs running bootcamps in places like Vegas and NYC where numbers game and going direct win you points.

Just last week, I was in Prague for a week doing cold approach and as an American, it was a culture shock. It is not exactly the paradise people make it out to be for women being easy and I noticed that girls might not blow you out right away, in fact, they will even entertain a conversation. However, closing them is an entirely different story.

I really do think that all Game guys should travel more as I have been doing because you start to realize what works in one place does not always work in another. It is why some dude sitting in Miami or NYC giving Game Advice may as well be irrelevant to a guy doing daygame in Europe because there really is a vast difference.

I might make a different thread about my trip to Prague and what an eye opener it was. The only woman I closed was an Italian tourist who was on the older side but with Czech girls, it was long daygame sets and numbers but hardly any of them panning out into dates.

Perhaps this is the next revolution in Game we all need. A guide on how to Game various kinds of women and what to keep in mind as opposed to treating women as a one-size fits all type of approach.

 

[Skills]

Basically teasing, cocky funny, and backhanded humour... is something i have had little success with in both Scandinavia and germanic countries.

-Teevster

That stuff is not working much with new gen in USA...

 

[RisingCane]

I still have not seen a british get laid with a french chick in Paris. Could it happen? yes. Has it happened? very very likely. Is it the norm? not according to my experience. Exceptions do not make the rule.

PS: girls from outside of Paris are different. I am near Lyon right now, and it is like being in a different country.

-Teevster

I will work on seeing how I can get this guy on the forum to share his experience. To be fair, the British lad has not provided any receipts. However, my Mexican American did provide receipts of him with French girls, even of the Parisian variety. Outside of practically porn, it was Parisian girls sending him raunchy DMs on IG and some asking him to come over again.

However, I do admit that when it comes to Game in Paris and France on this forum, you are the expert. It is very likely that both of these guys who have gotten laid likely used a lot of the techniques you talk about, albeit unintentionally.

If my experience in Prague, which is practically a Western European city given the amount of tourists they get, is any indication, I'd say your initial post about Mediterranean and French women along with the techniques used is quite on point.

 

[Skills]

@Skills I get what you are saying man but the logistics is screwing me over. The drive from Miami Beach to The Grove/Gables is insane and dates I get who are staying at the beach do not want to make that drive. However, it never did occur to me that I can meet them for wine or drinks near where they live and bang in their place. From my own experience doing daygame, I found Lincoln Rd produced some of the hottest girls that were receptive to me and give me a number as well as a date. Brickell had a slightly more stuckup sort of a vibe and a lot more locals.

Brah! most guys that gamed and got laid did not pull the women to their local home, as you know Miami beach/brickel/grove and now that new place in the district (forgot the name), is were the clubs are people from all around south Florida go there and they get laid the minority of pulls are done back in residential place the first night... you also need to do research there are dozens of pull in fuck places(motels), the beach, and vehicle. watch my video....

However, going to what @Chase also said about getting higher quality locals, I wonder how many of us are willing to make that investment in social circle.

Brah! try it, for me a waste of time...

I worked to build up my social circle in the past few months and while I have had some great experiences, I am finding that it is very much anti-Game in the sense that women constantly whine about f*ckboys and every chick is begging for that LTR.

Bingo!

I'll have to see but so far in The Grove, I am finding that maybe it is the influx of old people and cliquey college kids but the atmosphere is very Conservative when it comes to sex and getting laid. However, I have not explored it all the way so I am going to do something.

I am going to do 50 daygame approaches in The Grove, all direct, and note down the reception I get. Then I will do 50 in Miami Beach and 50 in Brickell, maybe throw Wynnwood in there too.

@Skills you can ask me how they are going in the coming weeks and months if you see me slippin bro but I am going to write about this too lol.

^ i mean yeah for day game south beach is tops tbh(due to a the foot traffic in lincoln mall).... But you can do malls, mini mall plazas (all over florida), but for true day game yeah the best other than malls, supermarkets, is south beach due to heavy food trafic specially the outdoor Lincoln mall, but brickell is really good brah! good foot trafic in the biz distric after 5 pm and lunch hours...

 

[RisingCane]

Been reading a bit about this NLP stuff, great articles btw @Teevster and initially, it seems kind of like being a male gossip but then I thought more and more about it. How about leveraging that in a way that is both genuine but also uses the technique itself?

Like for me, I guess it is my American upbringing on the East Coast, indirect does not suit me well because it doesn't really fit my persona of being a forward go-getter. However, if a guy like me just makes his intentions known and goes direct, then that can be off-putting to certain women. So I think more and more about women in a lot of Western Europe where, for the most part, and not to be offensive here, the men are a lot more docile, passive, and indirect with what they want.

I would think that the right kind of American Persona that leverages NLP can be marketed in a way that would do well in a lot of Western European cities. A part of me thinks that a lot of European women are almost tired of dealing with men that walk on eggshells to get with them and would love a more wild and free guy that can bring out their pent up wild side.

For example, telling her:

"I think some men are not forward with their intentions and they just come off as being difficult to trust, they want to be the Nice Guy but their intentions are not so noble"

OR, if talking to a Mediterranean woman

"Some men will just put on any act because they want to get with a woman rather than being unapologetically true to themselves, even if it may be offensive to some, life is too short to walk on eggshells"

Because in the above, you know that Mediterranean men might be aggressive but they are also quite feminine at the same time in their behavior and big on fitting in, social cliques, and not offending the right people. So you get to be forward but at the same time unfiltered. For some of these Mediterranean women, you become almost an escape because you are that Bad Boy who doesn't care about their social cliques or their rules.

I will be in Europe again this year to try it out so putting it into action is what is going to count.

 

[RisingCane]

Brah! most guys that gamed and got laid did not pull the women to their local home, as you know Miami beach/brickel/grove and now that new place in the district (forgot the name), is were the clubs are people from all around south Florida go there and they get laid the minority of pulls are done back in residential place the first night... you also need to do research there are dozens of pull in fuck places(motels), the beach, and vehicle. watch my video....




Brah! try it, for me a waste of time...


Bingo!

^ i mean yeah for day game south beach is tops tbh(due to a the foot traffic in lincoln mall).... But you can do malls, mini mall plazas (all over florida), but for true day game yeah the best other than malls, supermarkets, is south beach due to heavy food trafic specially the outdoor Lincoln mall, but brickell is really good brah! good foot trafic in the biz distric after 5 pm and lunch hours...

Going to watch that video, I feel like I left so much on the table by not leveraging the beach and local environments. Gonna have to get used to sand in my shoes lol. And yeah, I am done with social circle game for good. I have had an epiphany about how it is actually anti-game.

I am going to post my insights after 50 approaches in a lot of the key places moving forward, including 50 in The Grove. There is also a beach I have been told of so I will approach there.

 

[Skills]

Going to watch that video, I feel like I left so much on the table by not leveraging the beach and local environments. Gonna have to get used to sand in my shoes lol. And yeah, I am done with social circle game for good. I have had an epiphany about how it is actually anti-game.

I am going to post my insights after 50 approaches in a lot of the key places moving forward, including 50 in The Grove. There is also a beach I have been told of so I will approach there.

The key to day game how (seducers do) and why a lot them prefer night game, is due to volume..... So a lot of guys go to NY to do day game, due to the heavy foot volume..... Go to areas in the grove with heavy foot volume (brah i specifically got the fuck out of miami cause was getting too crowded for my taste) so you should not have an issue... Do you speak spanish (this helps as well)... Paul Janka was the king of day game, please watch this for context on day game and foot traffic....

 

[RisingCane]

The key to day game how (seducers do) and why a lot them prefer night game, is due to volume..... So a lot of guys go to NY to do day game, due to the heavy foot volume..... Go to areas in the grove with heavy foot volume (brah i specifically got the fuck of miami cause was getting too crowded for my taste) so you should not have an issue... Do you speak spanish (this helps as well)... Paul Janka was the king of day game, please watch this for context on day game and foot traffic....

I have been practicing Daygame since 2022 and tracking my sets as well. At one point I even did a breakdown. Out of 10 approaches, on a bad day I can get 1 number at least and on my best day, I have gone 6 for 10. I have winged with guys from a Game Group who will chase after women and do 20+ approaches but ironically, my daygame days sucked when I did that many.

I feel like at times, I am a bit intuitive. Like I can kind of sense a set and as I got better, I learned to read for certain things

How are her facial expressions?

How fast is she walking? Walking too fast and in a rush are usually bad sets.

My best daygame days, I probably do 10 to 12 approaches but get multiple numbers because the timing was on point. So much of it for me has been to timing too. Like there is that moment to approach where you come off as a daygamer versus coming off as a natural making small talk with her and not attracting too much attention to yourself.

 

[Skills]

I have been practicing Daygame since 2022 and tracking my sets as well. At one point I even did a breakdown. Out of 10 approaches, on a bad day I can get 1 number at least and on my best day, I have gone 6 for 10. I have winged with guys from a Game Group who will chase after women and do 20+ approaches but ironically, my daygame days sucked when I did that many.

I feel like at times, I am a bit intuitive. Like I can kind of sense a set and as I got better, I learned to read for certain things

How are her facial expressions?

How fast is she walking? Walking too fast and in a rush are usually bad sets.

My best daygame days, I probably do 10 to 12 approaches but get multiple numbers because the timing was on point. So much of it for me has been to timing too. Like there is that moment to approach where you come off as a daygamer versus coming off as a natural making small talk with her and not attracting too much attention to yourself.

oh gottcha! i thought you were new... yes the more advance guys don't need to do that... sorry! i thought you were newer..

 

[RisingCane]

Reading this thread again, it takes me back to growing up in the US and how I envied that my European friends (at least Western European) had an easier life on paper. Wealthier, safer, and more educated countries. However, over the years when I have traveled and met various nationalities, it does seem like life in America has its perks. For me, the biggest one is that I feel like in American culture, you really can express yourself and there is that rebellious attitude to where you can call other people out on their BS.

Meanwhile, my friends in places like Spain and Italy that I have talked to have told me how women have the ultimate authority in those societies. I have seen how Spanish women in particular act, at times, it makes your typical Pacific Northwest feminist look tame in comparison. I cannot even imagine how insane I would go in the head if I was growing up in Italy or Spain where things are so tight-knit and you cannot call out any female hypocrisy or seem to always have to walk on eggshells.

The UK and France seem vaguely similar in that regard too. The guys I have met from those places seem so beat and a lot of them are desperate to get out. The French due to lack of opportunities for youth employment.

I will concede that on average, life in Western European is so much better than the US. However, Game wise, I am learning that some of our friends from across the pond deal with so much BS from their women that whatever a typical bratty American girl can put you through is just tame in comparison. I much rather deal with harsh basic bitches in Miami or NYC long-term than play courtier and almost walk on eggshells around French, Italian, and Spanish women for instance.

Sometimes, I wonder if the only thing Western European women, particularly of the Mediterranean variety have going for them is that unattainability factor. How so many players and guys who have been with other kinds of women now want to get with the ones perceived as being harder to get?

 

[RisingCane]

oh gottcha! i thought you were new... yes the more advance guys don't need to do that... sorry! i thought you were newer..

TBH, while not exactly "new", I have not been as consistent since 2022 and do have a lot of things to work on so you were not too off!