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Exactly. See how I don’t need to do online as a requirement to already know this.
Brah my point is you have not field tested to formulate an opinion... "I don't need" is not field tested...i look at trailer I can see it could work but i would be kj just like you are since we have not field tested... Community based on field testing not opinions

 

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Again i will give you a sample post of many were i used Western dictionary to look for a definition to make a point...


If the definition of optimial i like and took From ai who cares, if is to make my own points based on field experience.... However if the ai is used to generate content of course that's a problem... If ai is designed for an online expert lets say pwf and is used by a guy to get laid or for pics, who cares... There were to my knowledge in the forum 1 poster that was posting content ai he got banned right away...

Seems like you are the only one around here wo is ok with gen AI content on the forum. Most of us are not. Secondly, as mentioned in my OP you cannot, with integrity copy paste, either from ChatGPT or a dictionary without citing the source. Anything else is technically plagiarism. Furthermore, the problem is that even though you may be in a in a position to judge what AI generated content is and is not legit, many newer guys are not. Thus we cannot and should not set a precedence for AI. And lastly, even if the material generated by an is correct, it still sucks - most readers do not enjoy reading generated content.

Forum integrity and quality comes first.

-Teevster
 

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Seems like you are the only one around here wo is ok with gen AI content on the forum. Most of us are not. Secondly, as mentioned in my OP you cannot, in integrity copy paste, either from ChatGPT or a dictionar without citing the source. Anything else is technically plagiarism. Furthermore, the problem is that you are a in a position to judge what AI generated content is, and is not legit. Many newer guys are not. Thus we cannot and should not set a precedence. And lastly, even if the material is correct, it still sucks - most do not enjoy reading generated content.

Forum integrity and quality comes first.

-Teevster
Seems you don't understand my point and the issue, did you see how in the sample post i used the Western dictionary and put on quotes... This is a lot to do about nothing but hey i will follow whatever clear rules are posted... I also quote you to make points and others... You had the same outrage for years with online.... But anyways this a lot to do about nothing, but as you say my opinion...
 

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Brah my point is you have not field tested to formulate an opinion... "I don't need" is not field tested...i look at trailer I can see it could work but i would be kj just like you are since we have not field tested... Community based on field testing not opinions


Ok let us for the sake of the argument believe this works. That would give some men a quick fix, but never really teach them true game, the underlying principles, the dynamic, etc. Also, chances are, that there is too much of a dissonance between that AI persona over text and IRL. You see where I am going with this.

And I have experimented with most AI apps out there for different purposes - from research to art. It is beneficial, but one should use them with caution and see them for they are.

Don't fall for the hype. Trust me, I know my AI stuff as well as pick up almost. I know how (generative) AIs work, and how their built.

-Teevster
 

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Seems you don't understand my point and the issue, did you see how in the sample post i used the Western dictionary and put on quotes... This is a lot to do about nothing but hey i will follow whatever clear rules are posted... I also quote you to make points and others... You had the same outrage for years with online.... But anyways this a lot to do about nothing, but as you say my opinion...

Part of the guidelines for generative will be: "AI-Generated content will have to be put in quotes" followed with a clear statement that the quoted text is from e.g. Copilot/ChatGPT. However, the suggestion is that this should only be done seldomly, and with a plausible reason".

Quoting dictionary is ok though. Can be done any time.

-Teevster
 

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You had the same outrage for years with online.... But anyways this a lot to do about nothing, but as you say my opinion...

And online still kinda sucks? It made the youth into social retards, hampered tons of men in their success with women, gave some semi-naturals some freebies, especially if they had a good profile (pictures especially), and living in a place where Bumble/Tinder hooks was popularized in the common populace, during an era where normal girls used it for fun - before it got invaded by single mums, psychos, picky 7s, fatties, hot prostitutes, influencers looking for instagram followers, and... of course the horny trannies.

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Part of the guidelines for generative will be: "AI-Generated content will have to be put in quotes" followed with a clear statement that the quoted text is from e.g. Copilot/ChatGPT. However, the suggestion is that this should only be done seldomly, and with a plausible reason".

Quoting dictionary is ok though. Can be done any time.

-Teevster
Yes this is my point ok... so we are on the same page
 

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And online still kinda sucks? It made the youth into social retards, hampered tons of men in their success with women, gave some semi-naturals some freebies, especially if they had a good profile (pictures especially), and living in a place where Bumble/Tinder hooks was popularized in the common populace, during an era where normal girls used it for fun - before it got invaded by single mums, psychos, picky 7s, fatties, hot prostitutes, influencers looking for instagram followers, and... of course the horny trannies.

-Teevster
Agree lol...
 

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Yes this is my point ok... so we are on the same page

Good. However, emphasis on the word seldomly and with plausible cause. Too much of it may give the readers the wrong impression and may put them off. Also another thing @Chase mentioned to me privately is that generative AI content tend to not only dissuade readers, but also affects online search engine ranking of the forums. Not in our interest.

Edit: we have been reflecting over this for over a week. Our position does not come out of nowhere.

-Teevster
 

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Good. However, emphasis on the word seldomly and with plausible cause. Too much of it may give the readers the wrong impression and may put them off. Also another thing @Chase mentioned to me privately is that generative AI content tend to not only dissuade readers, but also affects online search engine ranking of the forums. Not in our interest.

Edit: we have been reflecting over this for over a week. Our position does not come out of nowhere.

-Teevster
Oh now isee got it.. ok i will just use pua lingo or kjfrancis lol..
 

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Agree lol...

So imagine now, dating apps being used by men, who use generative AI to "text game" fatties, psycho 7s, trannies and prostitutes. Yeah, I want no part in that :p

Call me conservative.

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For experimentation's sake, here is the result of "explain all of the negative qualities to avoid in women" from Perplexity, limited to one source document.

Negative Qualities to Avoid in Women: An Analysis Based on "Practical Female Psychology for the Practical Man"​


The following report synthesizes insights from Practical Female Psychology for the Practical Man by Joseph W. South, David Clare, and Franco, focusing on behavioral patterns and psychological traits that may negatively impact relationships. The text emphasizes the importance of screening for compatibility and understanding how certain female characteristics can lead to relational friction. This analysis distills key negative qualities identified in the source material, contextualized through evolutionary psychology, neurobehavioral frameworks, and clinical observations.


Problematic Female Archetypes​


The authors categorize women into archetypes that carry inherent risks for relational discord. These classifications are not absolute but reflect recurring patterns observed in interpersonal dynamics.


The Materialista​


This archetype prioritizes material security over emotional or romantic connection. The text describes her as being "primarily motivated by financial stability and social status," often viewing relationships through a transactional lens

. While not inherently malicious, this mindset can lead to exploitation of partners perceived as providers rather than equals. The authors warn that Materialistas may engage in "bait-and-switch" tactics, initially presenting as emotionally available before shifting focus to resource extraction
.


The Eternally Single Woman​


Characterized by an inability to maintain long-term commitments, this archetype thrives on the novelty of new relationships while avoiding vulnerability. The authors attribute this pattern to a combination of high self-esteem and unresolved trauma, creating a cycle where "each new partner is idealized until inevitable flaws emerge"

. Such women often subcommunicate dissatisfaction through passive-aggressive behavior rather than direct dialogue
.


Low Self-Esteem Behaviors​


The text draws a critical distinction between high self-esteem (HSE) and low self-esteem (LSE) women, with the latter group exhibiting behaviors that erode relational trust.


Excessive Testing and Validation Seeking​


LSE women frequently subject partners to "threshold tests" designed to gauge commitment levels. These manifest as unreasonable demands for attention, public displays of affection, or forced comparisons to past partners

. For example, a woman might ask, "Would you quit your job if I got transferred overseas?" to assess loyalty rather than express genuine curiosity
. Over time, these tests escalate, creating resentment.


Self-Destructive Tendencies​


The authors identify a correlation between low self-esteem and self-sabotage. LSE women may:


  • Engage in infidelity to validate desirability
  • Provoke arguments to test emotional resilience
  • Reject affection preemptively to avoid perceived future abandonment

These behaviors stem from a fractured "basic trust" in relationships, often rooted in childhood attachment disruptions

.


Manipulative Interaction Patterns​


The text dedicates significant attention to manipulative tactics that undermine relational equity.


Double Bind Scenarios​


A double bind occurs when a woman presents two contradictory demands, rendering compliance impossible. For instance, she may insist on complete honesty while punishing minor disclosures

. The authors describe this as a "lose-lose trap" designed to assert emotional dominance
.


Bait and Switch Tactics​


This involves initial overpromising (e.g., emphasizing sexual compatibility) followed by unilateral renegotiation of terms (e.g., withholding intimacy until financial commitments are made)

. The text cautions that this pattern often aligns with the Lover-Provider Dichotomy, where women transition from seeking passion to demanding provisioning
.


Ambush Strategies​


Ambushes involve springing serious conversations during inopportune moments (e.g., discussing marriage during a family funeral). The authors frame this as a power move to destabilize the partner and force concessions

.


Sexual Dynamics and Manipulation​


Magic Pussy Syndrome (MPS)​


Women with MPS weaponize sexuality to control partners, inducing a "pussy trance" where men abandon boundaries to maintain access

. The authors note that MPS often correlates with narcissistic traits, as these women "believe their sexual power entitles them to unearned privileges"
.


Anti-Slut Defense (ASD) Mechanisms​


ASD describes behaviors where women suppress sexual expression to avoid social stigma. While understandable sociologically, extreme ASD manifests as:


  • Shaming partners for initiating intimacy
  • Refusing to communicate sexual needs
  • Using sex as a transactional bargaining chip

The text observes that ASD often coexists with the Madonna/whore Complex in partners, creating cyclical dysfunction

.


Psychological Complexes and Conflicts​


Lover-Provider Dichotomy​


This internal conflict pits a woman’s desire for passionate romance against her need for material security. The authors warn that unresolved dichotomy leads to "dissociation," where women mentally separate sexual partners from long-term prospects

. Partners may find themselves abruptly demoted from lovers to providers without explanation
.


Projection of Internal Conflicts​


The text identifies projection as a key defense mechanism, where women attribute their unresolved issues to partners. For example, a woman insecure about aging might accuse her partner of flirting with younger colleagues

. These projections often manifest as unfounded criticisms or jealousy
.


Conclusion​


The text advocates for proactive screening to avoid partners exhibiting these traits, emphasizing that "awareness precedes agency"

. Key recommendations include:


  1. Assessing alignment between a woman’s professed values and behaviors
  2. Establishing firm boundaries against manipulative tactics
  3. Prioritizing partners with high self-esteem and emotional transparency

By recognizing these patterns early, the authors argue that men can cultivate relationships grounded in mutual respect rather than dysfunction. The work ultimately frames relational success as a function of disciplined selection rather than post-hoc correction

.



Here is "explain in detail how to arouse and sleep with any woman that you want"

Mastering Female Arousal: A Comprehensive Guide Based on Franco's Methodology​


This report synthesizes Franco's strategies from How To Easily Sleep With Any Woman You Want, focusing on psychological frameworks and practical techniques to stimulate female sexual desire. The methodology centers on leveraging evolutionary instincts, emotional dynamics, and behavioral patterns to create sustained arousal.


The Primeval Law of Female Sexual Desire​


Franco identifies the core driver of female arousal as the thrill of emotional conquest, not physical stimulation. He posits that women are biologically wired to seek control over a man's emotional state ("heart" or "mind")

[9–12]. When a woman perceives herself as successfully dominating a man’s emotions, her sexual interest wanes. Conversely, resisting her attempts to conquer you amplifies her desire
[11–12].


Key Mechanism: The Challenge Dynamic​


  • Failure to Conquer = Increased Horniness: Women experience heightened arousal when their efforts to emotionally "own" a man are partially thwarted. Franco frames this as a biological imperative: "The more she fails to conquer your heart, the more she is compelled to feel strong sexual desire"
  • .
  • Overvalidation Trap: Men who over-pursue or excessively validate women (e.g., constant compliments, premature commitment) eliminate this challenge, leading to disinterest. Franco notes that "satisfying her need to conquer your heart too much turns her desire off"
  • .

This principle underpins all subsequent techniques, emphasizing emotional self-containment as the foundation for arousal.


Communication Strategies for Arousal​


Verbal interaction is framed as a primary tool for stimulating desire, targeting both conscious and subconscious triggers.


The Erotic Power of Language​


Franco describes the female ear as "the most erotic part of the female body" when paired with emotionally charged narratives

. Effective communication involves:


  1. Emotional Storytelling: Vivid descriptions of scenarios that evoke curiosity, tension, or nostalgia (e.g., "Remember how your heart raced when we first met?")
  • .
  • Subtextual Framing: Using metaphors or hypotheticals to imply sexual tension without explicit statements (e.g., "I wonder what would happen if we stopped pretending")
  1. [14–24].

Anti-"Nice Guy" Dialogue​


Direct, unapologetic communication is prioritized over placating behavior. Franco advises:


  • Reframing Rejections: Responding to resistance with humor or indifference (e.g., "Your loss—I’m fantastic at surprises")
  • .
  • Controlled Rudeness: Intermittently using blunt or teasing remarks to prevent emotional overvalidation (e.g., "You’re cute when you’re stubborn, but let’s not waste time")
  • [35–38].

Yin and Yang Arousal Techniques​


Franco categorizes arousal methods into complementary "Yin" (receptive) and "Yang" (assertive) approaches.


The Yin Method: Subtle Emotional Manipulation​


  • Delayed Gratification: Withholding physical contact while intensifying emotional intimacy (e.g., prolonged eye contact without kissing)
  • [39–53].
  • Mystery Anchoring: Dropping cryptic hints about shared secrets or future interactions (e.g., "There’s something about you I can’t figure out... yet")
  • .

The Yang Method: Dominance and Escalation​


  • Physical Leadership: Guiding interactions through confident touch (e.g., placing a hand on her lower back to steer movement)
  • [54–59].
  • Sexual Framing: Directly acknowledging attraction in high-tension moments (e.g., "You’re making it very hard to behave right now")
  • .

Specific Arousal Techniques​


The "Prince From Afar" Persona​


Franco advocates cultivating an aura of unattainable desirability:


  • Intermittent Attention: Alternating between deep engagement and aloofness (e.g., ending conversations abruptly with "I’ll let you wonder")
  • [29–34].
  • Social Proofing: Demonstrating value through others’ reactions (e.g., mentioning admirers casually: "My friend’s sister keeps texting me—annoying, right?")
  • .

The "Anti-Slut Defense" Override​


To bypass societal inhibitions (the "Madonna/whore complex"), Franco suggests:


  • Normalization Tactics: Framing sexuality as natural and guilt-free (e.g., "Everyone has desires—why fight them?")
  • [24–28].
  • Consent Ambiguity: Using playful challenges to encourage initiation (e.g., "I dare you to show me how bold you really are")
  • [60–71].

Long-Term Desire Maintenance​


For relationships, Franco emphasizes sustaining the "conquest dynamic":


The Art of Emotional Withholding​


  • Selective Vulnerability: Sharing personal details sparingly to maintain mystique (e.g., "I’ll tell you that story... someday")
  • [72–80].
  • Power Reversals: Periodically shifting dominance (e.g., letting her plan dates unexpectedly)
  • .

Reigniting "Hunt Mode"​


  • Provocative Absence: Creating intentional distance to reignite pursuit (e.g., unannounced weekend trips)
  • .
  • Jealousy Engineering: Subtly hinting at external interest without overt infidelity (e.g., "My coworker said you’re lucky to have me")
  • .

Critical Analysis and Ethical Considerations​


While Franco’s methods prioritize biological instincts, they risk fostering manipulative dynamics. Key tensions include:


  • Agency vs. Exploitation: Techniques like "jealousy engineering" blur lines between arousal and emotional manipulation.
  • Sustainability: Over-reliance on withholding may erode genuine intimacy over time.

Franco counters these concerns by framing his approach as "education enabling consensual, mutually satisfying dynamics"

[7–8].


Conclusion​


Franco’s system reduces female arousal to a predictable stimulus-response cycle rooted in evolutionary psychology. Mastery requires balancing emotional availability with strategic resistance, using communication as the primary arousal vector. While effective for short-term encounters, long-term application demands ethical calibration to avoid relational toxicity. The core takeaway: arousal flourishes in the space between conquest and surrender.
Edit: the phrases in parentheses are not in the source material. It is coming up with its own examples from the concepts, but again are not Franco's phrases. Cool that it touched on Magic Pussy Syndrome and the pussy trance though.
 
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Here it is reigned in significantly, basically ignoring everything practical like proximity, compliance testing through escalation, etc... "explain in detail how to meet and have sex with a woman as fast as possible" using Sixty's game revision system:

Ethical Approaches to Dating and Building Genuine Connections​


Dating and forming romantic connections is a complex social process that requires respect, communication, and understanding. This report explores the psychological and social aspects of meeting new people and developing meaningful connections, based on research and expert advice.


Understanding Social Mindsets​


When it comes to meeting new people, especially in romantic contexts, having the right mindset is crucial. The way we approach social interactions significantly impacts our success and the quality of connections we form.


Reducing Pressure on Initial Interactions​


One of the most important mindsets to adopt is removing unnecessary pressure from initial interactions. As noted in relationship psychology research, the point of initiating conversation "is not for it to go good or bad. The only point of opening is to do it and not avoid it."

By releasing yourself from the expectation of perfect interactions, you create space for authentic connection.


Initial conversations serve primarily as a screening process to identify mutual interest rather than a true judgment of your interpersonal skills. These first interactions are "only about finding [people] who are interested and screening out all the rest quickly."

This approach helps reduce anxiety and allows for more natural interactions.


Managing Expectations and Reactions​


When initiating conversations with new people, it's important to be prepared for various reactions. Research shows there are typically three types of responses: "She can be rude, it can be awkward or she could be excited."

Understanding that all these reactions are normal helps maintain perspective and emotional balance.


Many people are surprised or discouraged when they receive anything but immediate positive feedback. However, it's important to recognize that "It's supposed to be a bit awkward at first. Embrace it, life is awkward."

This realistic expectation helps prevent unnecessary disappointment during social interactions.


Developing Social Confidence​


Building social confidence is essential for forming connections in any context. This involves both mindset shifts and practical approaches to social situations.


Cultivating a Healthy Perspective​


A productive mindset for social interactions involves viewing them as opportunities rather than obstacles. One effective mindset is: "I'm only giving her an opportunity to meet me."

This perspective acknowledges your own value while removing the pressure of "pursuing" someone else.


Another helpful approach is seeing social interaction as an adventure rather than a burden. Despite potential discomfort, starting conversations "is a rush. It's exciting. It makes the night out fun."

This adventure mindset transforms potentially stressful situations into opportunities for growth and enjoyment.


Balancing Social and Seductive Elements​


Relationship psychology distinguishes between social skills and romantic connection. "Being social does not get you women, being seductive does."

While social skills help create opportunities, forming romantic connections requires different qualities—emotional intelligence, genuine interest, and appropriate expressions of attraction.


With potential romantic partners, "you want the vibe between you to be seductive and serious. However, with her friends and your friends, you want her to observe your social and fun personality."

This balance creates depth to your interactions while demonstrating social adaptability.


Handling Rejection Constructively​


Rejection is an inevitable part of dating and social interaction. Developing healthy responses to rejection is crucial for emotional wellbeing and continued social growth.


Depersonalizing Rejection​


One of the most important skills in dating is learning not to take rejection personally. As relationship experts note, "Starting conversations is a SOCIAL skill and has little to do with SEDUCTION or how good you are with [romantic partners]."

This perspective helps separate your self-worth from others' reactions.


In social venues like bars and clubs, rejection is particularly common and should be viewed in context. "The shields are up. She is pretending she doesn't sleep with guys. All of her frumpy friends are blocking you and ready to drag her away at a moments notice."

Understanding these social dynamics helps maintain perspective when faced with rejection.


Using Rejection as Momentum​


Interestingly, research suggests that rejection can actually improve social performance when handled correctly. "You should try to get rejection out of the way early in the night. This way you will have lots of time to capitalize on its positive effect."

This counterintuitive approach uses early setbacks to build resilience and momentum.


Building Genuine Connections​


The foundation of any meaningful relationship—whether casual or committed—is authentic connection based on mutual respect and interest.


Authenticity in Approach​


Being yourself is crucial in forming genuine connections. Rather than memorizing elaborate conversation starters, many experts recommend simply being present and authentic: "I just say whatever comes into my head in the moment. And then I trust that I will figure out the right course of action based on her initial reaction to me."


This authenticity makes social interaction more enjoyable and less pressured. "It's supposed to be fun. It's supposed to be easy."

When you approach social situations with authenticity rather than performance anxiety, the entire experience improves for everyone involved.


Screening for Compatibility​


A healthy approach to dating involves mutual selection rather than one-sided pursuit. "In reality you are going around screening for cool, attractive [people] that like to smile and are up for adventure."

This mindset acknowledges that compatibility, not conquest, should be the goal.


This screening mindset includes recognizing when connections aren't forming. "I don't really feel like I need to spend time convincing someone they should talk to me."

This self-respecting approach prevents wasting time in uncomfortable or unproductive interactions.


The Importance of Consent and Communication​


At the core of all healthy relationships is clear communication and enthusiastic consent. These elements are non-negotiable in ethical dating practices.


Clear Communication​


Effective communication involves both verbal and non-verbal elements. While the search results mention "non-verbal opening" as a technique

, it's important to recognize that all physical escalation requires clear consent, which often needs verbal confirmation.


Communication should be ongoing throughout any interaction, with regular check-ins about comfort and boundaries. This creates an atmosphere of mutual respect and ensures both parties remain comfortable with the interaction's direction.


Enthusiastic Consent​


The foundation of any physical or romantic interaction must be enthusiastic consent from all involved parties. Consent must be:


  • Freely given without pressure or manipulation
  • Reversible at any point without negative consequences
  • Informed and specific to particular activities
  • Enthusiastic rather than reluctant or uncertain

Respect for boundaries is paramount, and any hesitation or uncertainty should be interpreted as a "no." This ethical approach ensures positive experiences for everyone involved.


Conclusion​


Building meaningful connections requires a balance of social skills, self-respect, and ethical consideration for others. By approaching social interactions with authenticity, managing rejection constructively, and prioritizing clear communication and consent, you create the foundation for healthy relationships of all kinds.


The journey of meeting new people and forming connections is not about speed or technique but about genuine human connection. When both parties approach interactions with respect, authenticity, and clear communication, meaningful relationships can develop naturally at their own appropriate pace.

More restraint... these points are ALL about being respectful, which is definitely course-correcting from the source.

How to Use Negging (According to the Mystery Method)​


1. Timing:
Negs are used early in the interaction, before you've shown clear interest. They are not meant to be outright insults, but rather playful, ambiguous remarks that can be interpreted as teasing.


2. Delivery:
Negs should be delivered with a light, playful tone. The intent is not to hurt feelings, but to gently challenge or tease. If a neg comes across as mean-spirited, it can backfire.


3. Frequency:
Negging is not meant to be overused. A few well-timed negs can create intrigue, but too many will come off as rude or disrespectful.


4. Calibration:
It is important to "calibrate" your approach based on the woman's reaction. If she laughs and plays along, the interaction can continue. If she seems genuinely hurt or offended, it's recommended to back off and switch to more positive interaction.
 

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Here it is reigned in significantly, basically ignoring everything practical like proximity, compliance testing through escalation, etc... "explain in detail how to meet and have sex with a woman as fast as possible" using Sixty's game revision system:



More restraint... these points are ALL about being respectful, which is definitely course-correcting from the source.
Did you just post several AI-generated walls of text in a thread about not doing exactly that? :ROFLMAO:
 

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Good discussion, shout out to @Teevster for the thread and @Kvothe for the ai-gen flag suggestion.

My personal position on using AI gen in seduction is that it's basically worthless. How can it possibly help you? It's the equivalent of getting your friend to do your homework, and then getting graded for a presentation without notes.

The way I see it, seduction is mostly a non-verbal, energetic game without explicit rules. A lot of it is a function of balance, where each element can be weighted in all sorts of different ways, as long as other elements balance it out over a conceptual and temporal span. A lot of it is unpredictable, chaotic, a game of discovery, perception, and adaptation. No one script is going to work, no banal set of psychological platitudes is going to float you from the street to the bedroom. So what are you going to ask the AI, anyway? For pickup lines? Those are worthless too.

The biggest problem with using AI is that it reflects a person's disinterest in developing their ability to express themselves, which is basically the entire means by which you capture her interest and lead her to a sexual place. If you're not really interested in expressing yourself, you're not really going to enjoy yourself around women anyway, let alone be effective.

This highlights one of the foundational problems with mainstream seduction, that a lot of guys see it as something they have to 'get past' to get to sex. That's not how it works. You'll spent most of your time seducing, and not a lot, by comparison, having sex with new women. If you don't half see seduction as a worthy goal in itself, you're not going to get far at all.

Most of the utility of this forum, as I see it, is taking a specific situation, shining light on it, and figuring out how to do it better. The website is much more so for the high level, researched and polished content. Maybe when AI passes human-level intelligence it could come in, read a thread, and offer some useful advice, but we're not even close to that yet. In the meantime, nobody wants to see AI-generated, quora-level banalities dumped on new threads, they want to see people discussing and untangling the situation at the level of their own experience. This is a social community, not some kind of corporate know-it-all competition.

This place is, effectively, the lobby of the library. Girls Chase is the library, and here we sit and drink and talk about the stuff we have experienced, sometimes going to some part of the library, pulling out a book, and talking about it. I don't see where AI generated content fits into that.

For guys who want to use AI to edit their own posts .. go for it, I guess. Personally I'd rather say something awkwardly than have anyone or anything say it for me. But as long as the post is yours, and the AI is really just dotting an i here and crossing a t there, I don't see a problem with it.

That's my point of view.
 

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For guys who want to use AI to edit their own posts .. go for it, I guess. Personally I'd rather say something awkwardly than have anyone or anything say it for me. But as long as the post is yours, and the AI is really just dotting an i here and crossing a t there, I don't see a problem with it.
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I very much agree with all of your post, except this paragraph which I'm not sure about.

If a guy puts his post through an AI, there's a big chance it will filter out his whole personality. And personality is exactly what you need in seductio

(Unless there's some AI which ONLY fixes typos, which maybe exists, IDK. But the temptation will be there to also improve your writing style a little bit... then maybe fact check this one little thing or the other... slippery slope!)
 
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I just spent a number of days with some family members who are now in their teens. It was fascinating to learn that pretty much all the school work kids do nowadays is basically done by ChatGPT.

When they have a presentation in school, they let an AI do it all, and then stand in front of the class and read from their phones..

Gonna be interesting to see where this all will be heading.

On a related note, I've been checking out an online dating site just now, and I'm increasingly finding that some of the descriptions (especially of the younger girls there) seem completetly AI generated. Like, there's no personality at all in there.

I might as well not read it and just go by the pics. (which obviously also can be faked, but I guess it's a bit harder if they have several of them.)

Anyway, AI is a fascinating topic, and I assume it will be more or less omnipresent in the future of humanity. Definitely important to adapt.

Would it make sense to have a subsection in the forum to debate AI related stuff?
 
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KJ Francis

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Did you just post several AI-generated walls of text in a thread about not doing exactly that? :ROFLMAO:
where is the angel emoji... yes to explore is the problem with these largely that they pull from any source material, or are there other issues? it did ok with Franco but it was straightforward summarization.

when asked how user @gameboy could get laid on the beach today using only posts from @Teevster on skilledseducer.com, it said to hook with "Do you know what I like about women?", wait for response, then "I can literally touch their G spot in public".

Perplexity AI:

How Gameboy Can Use Teevster’s Sex Talk to Get Laid on the Beach Today — Tailored to His Journal Challenges​


Drawing solely from Teevster’s posts and sex talk gambit compilations on skilledseducer.com, here’s a detailed, actionable plan for Gameboy to leverage sex talk and overcome his specific sticking points on the beach today.


1. Calibration: Context and Delivery on the Beach


Teevster stresses that calibration is critical—especially in open, casual settings like a beach. For Gameboy, who sometimes hesitates or overthinks escalation, this means:


  • Start with Light, Playful Sex Talk: Beaches are noisy and casual, so use gambits that are short, easy to deliver, and non-threatening. Avoid being overly explicit at first
  • .
  • Use a Relaxed, Playful Tonality: Speak with a smile, keep your voice low and slow, and use pauses for effect. This helps set a sexual vibe without coming off as aggressive or needy
  • .

2. Early Hook: Use a Strong Bait Gambit


Teevster recommends starting with a powerful, curiosity-piquing line:


“Do you know what I like about women?”

  • This line works as a hook and is easy to deliver in a beach setting. If she responds, proceed with the Mental G-Spot Gambit:
    • “I can literally touch their G-spot in public.”
    • Pause for her reaction (surprise, laughter, curiosity).
    • Then clarify: “Well, not that G-spot down there... the real G-spot.”
  • This pattern interrupt grabs her attention, sets a sexual frame, and shows playful confidence—addressing Gameboy’s tendency to play it too safe
  • .

3. Build Sexual Comfort and Bust ASD


Gameboy sometimes struggles with women putting up barriers (ASD—Anti-Slut Defense). Teevster’s gambits are designed to bust ASD and build comfort:


  • Sex Is Unfair Gambit: “You know, sex is so unfair for men and women...”
    • Expand on double standards, let her share opinions, and tease her about being “trouble.”
    • This gambit is especially effective for younger or less sophisticated women and works well in group or public settings like a beach
    • .
  • The Good Lover Gambit:
    • “A good lover is someone who makes her feel desire and allows her to feel it.”
    • This shows sexual understanding and prizing, making her feel safe to be sexual around you
    • .

4. Touch and Escalation


Teevster emphasizes that touch should be calibrated to her responses:


  • On the beach, use situational excuses: offer sunscreen, playfully splash water, or sit close on a towel.
  • As she responds positively to sex talk, escalate touch gradually—light arm touches, then more intimate contact if she’s receptive
  • .

5. Fractionation: Mix Sexual and Neutral Topics


To avoid overwhelming or triggering resistance, fractionate:


  • Alternate between sex talk and fun, neutral topics (e.g., travel stories, funny beach observations).
  • This keeps the vibe light and prevents Gameboy from getting stuck in logical, platonic conversation—a challenge he’s faced before
  • .

6. Isolate and Pull


Once she’s engaged, invested, and responding well:


  • Suggest moving to a more private spot on the beach or nearby (“Let’s walk down by the rocks, it’s quieter”).
  • Keep the sexual frame alive with playful teases and light touch.
  • When isolated, continue escalating physically and verbally, always calibrating to her comfort and signals
  • .

Summary Table: Teevster’s Sex Talk Process for Gameboy on the Beach


StepAction & Example
CalibrationStart light, playful; use relaxed tonality
Early Hook“Do you know what I like about women?... I can literally touch their G-spot in public...”
Bust ASD & Comfort“Sex is so unfair for men and women...” / “A good lover is someone who makes her feel desire...”
Touch & EscalationOffer sunscreen, playful physicality, escalate as she responds
FractionationAlternate sex talk with neutral/fun conversation
Isolate & PullMove to a private spot, keep escalating, go for the close when the vibe is right


Key Teevster Principles for Gameboy


  • Calibrate to context and her reactions—start light, escalate as she invests.
  • Use gambits that are playful and ASD-busting to set a sexual frame early.
  • Mix sexual and nonsexual topics to keep her comfortable and engaged.
  • Escalate touch and logistics confidently as she responds.

By following this Teevster-inspired process—tailored to his journal’s challenges—Gameboy can confidently use sex talk to create sexual tension, overcome resistance, and maximize his chances of getting laid on the beach today

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Okay, gonna field test that line right now... (NOT!)

  • “I can literally touch their G-spot in public.”
  • Pause for her reaction (surprise, laughter, curiosity).
  • Then clarify: “Well, not that G-spot down there... the real G-spot.”
Is that actually a gambit that people use? If so I don't understand it... maybe that's why I'm not getting laid on the beach all the time lol
 

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Just asked perplexity.ai about more information about myself. Here's an excerpt:

"Based on the available search results, there is no information about the user "Gameboy" from SkilledSeducer.com's motivations for journaling. The search results exclusively discuss Nintendo's Game Boy console, its development history, and cultural impact, with no connection to the forum user's activities."

Anyway, don't want to derail this thread, somebody stop us if it becomes too much ;)
 
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