Getting university girls as an older guy

[Jakeroviks]

I'm 27 and starting university soon.

The school I'm going to is in a nice area, and has a 70/30 F/M ratio. Sounds like paradise.

I'm planning on using social circle game and leveraging my life experience my benefit.

Any advice or things i should know?

 

[RustinKohle]

I recently went back to university at 24, so I can give you some anecdotal experience.

The younger the better. Girls who are in their junior and senior year tend to be a bit over guys hitting on them, however if theyve graduated and are hanging around until their next move, they also tend to be down

Boyfriends mean nothing.

Depending on the kind of school, politics can make or break you in social circle. These girls are young and idealistic, keep the conversations as fun as possible.

Pulling outside of social circle has been a bit difficult at bars, but the school I'm at has a legitimately bad history of sexual assault so it makes sense. That said, these girls are more willing to follow up if you stick out to her.

If you go the dating app route, tinder will be better suited than bumble as the youngins are more into it.

 

[RustinKohle]

Also try to keep in mind what kind of man these chicks are going for. For example, my current roommate and our neighbor are big names in the local music scene, and any girl who thinks their knowledgeable on the subject, likes getting on stage, or goes to music festivals eats them up. Pay attention to the kinds of guys that seem to get the most attention and atop the social circle game

 

[Fuck This]

Think about what you have to offer that some 18-22 year old doesn't. Those are your strengths.
Are you in a financial position to have your OWN place to pull to?
Check out the Grad students closer to your age. If you have been in the workforce a while, you will definitely have a financial advantage there...
I remember a PhD at one of the universities I met when I was starting my career. Top in her field and HOT. Seriously blew all her students out of the water in looks and brains. She was a new professor. Keep an eye out for them.

One advantage you will have in being older is a better handle on your alcohol tolerance. No drunken bullshit antics of a kid.

Personally I don't think I could relate to a VYW if I was in that situation. Probably comes with being a Dad...

 

[Sub-Zero]

What if you don't have the financial situation handled? Or your own place?

What could be your strengths in then?

Think about what you have to offer that some 18-22 year old doesn't. Those are your strengths.
Are you in a financial position to have your OWN place to pull to?
Check out the Grad students closer to your age. If you have been in the workforce a while, you will definitely have a financial advantage there...
I remember a PhD at one of the universities I met when I was starting my career. Top in her field and HOT. Seriously blew all her students out of the water in looks and brains. She was a new professor. Keep an eye out for them.

One advantage you will have in being older is a better handle on your alcohol tolerance. No drunken bullshit antics of a kid.

Personally I don't think I could relate to a VYW if I was in that situation. Probably comes with being a Dad...

 

[Jakeroviks]

Life experience, stories, etc.

I remember who I was at 18-22, and I am WAY more interesting and confident than I was then.

 

[Fuck This]

What if you don't have the financial situation handled? Or your own place?

What could be your strengths in then?

I'd take a look at your hierarchy of needs on a holistic basis.

At 28 years old I think my focus would be on a 9-5 that afforded me a positive cashflow, and night classes to complete a bachelors degree.

TBH a job in the trades for 40 hours a week with health benefits, and retirement while expanding your marketability with business courses in the evening would do more for your overall success than sacrificing your prime working years with daytime classes, and student loan debt. I see my 31 year old single female friend doing this while working for county government. Achieving her Bachelors will allow her to move up as a paralegal, and her day job is flexible and she can be reimbursed for schooling costs. For 2 years she is going to not be able to go out on weeknights. That is the cost of achieving what she wants....It also is going to allow (maybe force)her to be more selective about who she dates,and gives her a built in time constraint.

I have a 23 year old retail employee making $18 an hour plus retirement and health bennies. He rides the commuter train to and from work. He is taking real estate classes in the evenings. He has not completed his bachelors degree. He is stacking money and will own a $500,000 home in the next 10 years. He has a 6 year long exclusive relationship going but is in a good position with women if that was not the case.

I have a 20 year old production employee making $23 per hour for 40 yrs a week in a union position. After work he does freelance work doing repairs for businesses around. They pay him cash and he restores old cars and sells them on the side as well. He takes his girlfriend out once a week. He's buying rental property that will cash flow his house payment.

Hey I LOVED my University years. It was good that I was not out in the big bad world for the 5 years after high school. I met my wife there. I learned a lot about socialization, and grew up. At 28 you can do better than college girls...If you are on the GI bill great. But build a solid cash flow and then work on your social situation.

My opinion NOW on college education is that it is only worthwhile IF you are going to progress to an advanced degree, Master's or above. My college cost only $18,000 per year including all living costs. Now a days that is $50,000+. It still took me 15 years to pay off my (and my wife's) student loans.

 

[Jakeroviks]

Thanks for the response Sub Zero. My college will be paid for. I'm considering working a PTJ alongside taking classes for the ability to stack more cash and experience.

I'm weighing this against the value of my time and happiness. My time isn't worth minimum wage, for example. If I can stack $25+/hr along with experience in a field that I want, I'd happily do that.

 

[Sub-Zero]

But I heard college is where you'll never meet as many girls to work on your game ever again. After college everything is hard to get girls. I don't want to be on here regretting missing the college experience.

I also understand that I need a real job to make income as a grown man.

So I'm at a place that even Chase says that you'll never have more girls around you like in college.

And I also need to have a 9-5 and can't be in any more debt.

More stress for me.

What if you don't have the financial situation handled? Or your own place?

What could be your strengths in then?

I'd take a look at your hierarchy of needs on a holistic basis.

At 28 years old I think my focus would be on a 9-5 that afforded me a positive cashflow, and night classes to complete a bachelors degree.

TBH a job in the trades for 40 hours a week with health benefits, and retirement while expanding your marketability with business courses in the evening would do more for your overall success than sacrificing your prime working years with daytime classes, and student loan debt. I see my 31 year old single female friend doing this while working for county government. Achieving her Bachelors will allow her to move up as a paralegal, and her day job is flexible and she can be reimbursed for schooling costs. For 2 years she is going to not be able to go out on weeknights. That is the cost of achieving what she wants....It also is going to allow (maybe force)her to be more selective about who she dates,and gives her a built in time constraint.

I have a 23 year old retail employee making $18 an hour plus retirement and health bennies. He rides the commuter train to and from work. He is taking real estate classes in the evenings. He has not completed his bachelors degree. He is stacking money and will own a $500,000 home in the next 10 years. He has a 6 year long exclusive relationship going but is in a good position with women if that was not the case.

I have a 20 year old production employee making $23 per hour for 40 yrs a week in a union position. After work he does freelance work doing repairs for businesses around. They pay him cash and he restores old cars and sells them on the side as well. He takes his girlfriend out once a week. He's buying rental property that will cash flow his house payment.

Hey I LOVED my University years. It was good that I was not out in the big bad world for the 5 years after high school. I met my wife there. I learned a lot about socialization, and grew up. At 28 you can do better than college girls...If you are on the GI bill great. But build a solid cash flow and then work on your social situation.

My opinion NOW on college education is that it is only worthwhile IF you are going to progress to an advanced degree, Master's or above. My college cost only $18,000 per year including all living costs. Now a days that is $50,000+. It still took me 15 years to pay off my (and my wife's) student loans.

 

[Sub-Zero]

Hey FT,

Could you give me your opinion on what I said in the last quote?

What if you don't have the financial situation handled? Or your own place?

What could be your strengths in then?

I'd take a look at your hierarchy of needs on a holistic basis.

At 28 years old I think my focus would be on a 9-5 that afforded me a positive cashflow, and night classes to complete a bachelors degree.

TBH a job in the trades for 40 hours a week with health benefits, and retirement while expanding your marketability with business courses in the evening would do more for your overall success than sacrificing your prime working years with daytime classes, and student loan debt. I see my 31 year old single female friend doing this while working for county government. Achieving her Bachelors will allow her to move up as a paralegal, and her day job is flexible and she can be reimbursed for schooling costs. For 2 years she is going to not be able to go out on weeknights. That is the cost of achieving what she wants....It also is going to allow (maybe force)her to be more selective about who she dates,and gives her a built in time constraint.

I have a 23 year old retail employee making $18 an hour plus retirement and health bennies. He rides the commuter train to and from work. He is taking real estate classes in the evenings. He has not completed his bachelors degree. He is stacking money and will own a $500,000 home in the next 10 years. He has a 6 year long exclusive relationship going but is in a good position with women if that was not the case.

I have a 20 year old production employee making $23 per hour for 40 yrs a week in a union position. After work he does freelance work doing repairs for businesses around. They pay him cash and he restores old cars and sells them on the side as well. He takes his girlfriend out once a week. He's buying rental property that will cash flow his house payment.

Hey I LOVED my University years. It was good that I was not out in the big bad world for the 5 years after high school. I met my wife there. I learned a lot about socialization, and grew up. At 28 you can do better than college girls...If you are on the GI bill great. But build a solid cash flow and then work on your social situation.

My opinion NOW on college education is that it is only worthwhile IF you are going to progress to an advanced degree, Master's or above. My college cost only $18,000 per year including all living costs. Now a days that is $50,000+. It still took me 15 years to pay off my (and my wife's) student loans.

 

[Fuck This]

S-Z ,

Your most limiting factor is finance and dwelling space. When you bring that up to the level of your social prowess then you can focus on the social aspect.
A man who can attract quality women 10-15 years younger is going to be attractive to women their own age first.

Strengths?

Do you have a compelling story as to WHY you are entering University 10 years later than the women you are pursuing?
Do you have a mature, kind and knowledgeable vibe around women?
Do you make them feel comfortable in your presence rather than on guard that you are trying to take advantage of their youth and inexperience?
Do you give off the vibe of not seeking their attention or approval?
Do you have a clear and believable goals and potential, or does it come off as bullshit?
Do you walk your talk and follow through?
Do you inspire their curiosity to find out more about you?

At 28 you are NOT going to frat parties and meeting chicks DTF.
You are that interesting guy in their class that lives off campus who is a nice alternative to the frat bro who felt her up and then puked on her shoes. You behave like a gentleman and she feels like she has leveled up versus "boys her age".

 

[Sub-Zero]

Well Ft,

I have worked jobs that paid shit for years and I actually already have a 2 year degree. Still no job prospects after that and I'm continuing my uni education now.

The reason I don't have what I'm supposed to have is because it's bullshit. I tried to get my finances in order for a while in my 2 year school and before. I could never get a full time job to support myself all these years.

So that's why I am where I am.

I'm also at the point where I still might not be able to get my own place because I have a lot of debt because I couldn't get any high paying jobs to pay for anything.

I have no idea of what job I could get that would give me decent finance and a dwelling space because I have been looking for years for these? Got any tips?

If I had all my shit together I wouldn't even be in school like that, I'd maybe take night classes or just go online, so that doesn't really help with day classes.

Or I could just take out a lot of loans and get an apartment off campus and a car, but then I heard they need to get a credit check so....

I've also heard that many people join frats at later ages, not my cup of tea at all, just saying it isn't uncommon.


To answer your questions, yes I do feel like I have those strengths.

Yeah I'm kind of stuck. Would appreciate any advice tho because I do want to have both the college experience as well as having my finances in order, which I've been trying to improve for years.

S-Z ,

Your most limiting factor is finance and dwelling space. When you bring that up to the level of your social prowess then you can focus on the social aspect.
A man who can attract quality women 10-15 years younger is going to be attractive to women their own age first.

Strengths?

Do you have a compelling story as to WHY you are entering University 10 years later than the women you are pursuing?
Do you have a mature, kind and knowledgeable vibe around women?
Do you make them feel comfortable in your presence rather than on guard that you are trying to take advantage of their youth and inexperience?
Do you give off the vibe of not seeking their attention or approval?
Do you have a clear and believable goals and potential, or does it come off as bullshit?
Do you walk your talk and follow through?
Do you inspire their curiosity to find out more about you?

At 28 you are NOT going to frat parties and meeting chicks DTF.
You are that interesting guy in their class that lives off campus who is a nice alternative to the frat bro who felt her up and then puked on her shoes. You behave like a gentleman and she feels like she has leveled up versus "boys her age".

 

[Sub-Zero]

And also FT,

Even if I work full-time that won't guarantee me my own place as soon as I find a job. The job might not pay enough, I still have to build my credit back up, I'd actually like to work and stay at home and pay off some debt for a while before I just get a job and go straight for a move and add more bills, feel me?

If I can't get college chicks because of where I'm at, how am I supposed to get girls who are around my age? Does that mean I can't get no girls at all then?

S-Z ,

Your most limiting factor is finance and dwelling space. When you bring that up to the level of your social prowess then you can focus on the social aspect.
A man who can attract quality women 10-15 years younger is going to be attractive to women their own age first.

Strengths?

Do you have a compelling story as to WHY you are entering University 10 years later than the women you are pursuing?
Do you have a mature, kind and knowledgeable vibe around women?
Do you make them feel comfortable in your presence rather than on guard that you are trying to take advantage of their youth and inexperience?
Do you give off the vibe of not seeking their attention or approval?
Do you have a clear and believable goals and potential, or does it come off as bullshit?
Do you walk your talk and follow through?
Do you inspire their curiosity to find out more about you?

At 28 you are NOT going to frat parties and meeting chicks DTF.
You are that interesting guy in their class that lives off campus who is a nice alternative to the frat bro who felt her up and then puked on her shoes. You behave like a gentleman and she feels like she has leveled up versus "boys her age".

 

[Fuck This]

SZ
There are a number of union positions that demand pretty high wages right out of the gate.

I'd check for something like this at the university. I've got an acquaintance who worked as a facilities guy at the university, got a reduced class tuition and got a degree in construction mangagement.

The Trades (construction, welding, plumbing, electricians, HVAC, Commercial drivers) all are in high demand.