LR Girl with boyfriend

[Spike]

I just dyed my hair pink. But my wardrobe stayed the same. Conforming to the vampire/werewolf aesthetic (see previous lay report). I got a drink and the bartender girl immediately complimented my eyebrow piercing (I later got her number and set the date for Sunday). Chilled for a bit. And then a girl approached me telling me her friend asked questions about me (my name, how old I was). I lied about both. And then she introduced me to her. She had recently got into a car accident which left her left eye bleeding (which she felt insecure about). I got to talking to her. But also started talking to the bartender to set the Sunday date. The girl noticed this. And was therefore insecure shot her bloodshot eye. So she left. I kept where I was. And then the girl came back. I told her that I would fuck her but I don’t want to give her more pain tnan she is already feeling from the accident. She said she ok. So then I just said, would your friends be ok if you came home with me? She went to go ask them (I already knew the answer would be yes). She came back and said yes. So I lead her out (had already ordered a Lyft).

brought her home and fucked both her pussy and ass. And then only after we were relaxing she revealed that she had a boyfriend. Who had cheated on her. So this was a revenge type thing. She got dressed and then left. (She told him she went back wit her friends. But he showed up at their house and could not find her. So he kept calling her. Which she did not pick up). Her friends called her and said her boyfriend is here looking for her. So I told her to tell her boyfriend that the Lyft she ordered brought her to the wrong address. And she was now walking home.

Would have turned me on a million times more if she was talking to her boyfriend as I was fucking her but alas

 

[PaulieFlyn10]

Congrats on the lay.

The thing is, I don't see any game or seduction here. Seems like she was super green from from start. Also, your previous lays shows you dress up to match a particular archetype (can you elaborate more on the vampire/werewolf archetype)

Do you have any lays with actual seduction/game. Probably ones involving yellow girls (girls that aren't sold on you totally) or red girls (girls who aren't interested)

I like the archetype because it can be a massive screening tool that makes things easier... does this style work in other college campuses besides the one you're close to. Or in other areas that are not college campuses

 

[Spike]

Congrats on the lay.

Thank you

The thing is, I don't see any game or seduction here. Seems like she was super green from from start.

Well I think that is the point. I dress and look a particular way to attract (make them super green) my target demographic so that when I talk to them or they talk to me. It will be pretty straight forward.

Also, your previous lays shows you dress up to match a particular archetype (can you elaborate more on the vampire/werewolf archetype)

you can look at Matteo’s video for that. But it is simply

Dress in all black
Fitted t shirt (that shows off your muscle)
Clean shaved
Wear boots
Wear silver jewelry
Flowy hairstyle
Tattoos
Have a wider bottom than your top (I.e. baggy pants + tight fit tee shirt) following the “1/3” rule

this one is also a good supplementary video by matteo

Do you have any lays with actual seduction/game. Probably ones involving yellow girls (girls that aren't sold on you totally) or red girls (girls who aren't interested)

So only if a girl is not sold on you totally or aren’t interested in you, then it counts as seduction?

what would you say about this girl?

LR - Gay Fantasy Gets Her Dripping (SDL)

Hi everyone, Hope you're all doing well. I wanted to share a same day lay that happened a few hours ago. I was out shopping for a scarf in Zara when an attractive blonde with sexy pink boots registers in my peripheral vision. She's fiddling her fingers across the men shirts absentmindedly...

www.skilledseducer.com

The girl complied to everything he asked her to do and nowhere in the report did she indicate she might not be interested in him. Why is mine not seduction but his report leaving people “speechless”?

I like the archetype because it can be a massive screening tool that makes things easier

Yes the point.

does this style work in other college campuses besides the one you're close to. Or in other areas that are not college campuses

Haven’t tried it elsewhere I don’t travel

 

[KJ Francis]

Why is mine not seduction but his report leaving people “speechless”?

Well he opened a girl who is stone cold sober in a mall and used skillful banter to create a playful vibe to titillate her emotionally and get her to accompany him.

I was left flabbergasted because of the absurdity of the situation going about his day and ending up in such a situation, and impressed because it was very creative. Primarily it was very smart, because just like Alek's sex talk gambits, it is a way to frame himself as skilled and knowledgeable (sexual prizing) while getting the girl to imagine the sexual acts (possibly even inserting herself in the fantasy with him instead of the waiter).

What this does is allow her to sink into the seduction without verbalizing the intent towards her or creating any decision point or explicit proposition for her to resist. So it circumvents the anti slut defense and last minute resistance.

 

[Spike]

Well he opened a girl who is stone cold sober in a mall and used skillful banter to create a playful vibe to titillate her emotionally and get her to accompany him.

Yup your not gonna run into too many girls who’ve had a drink or 2 if your daygaming opposed to night game. Unless ur daygaming at some social event.

It also helps when a girl has nothing to do because they’re friend they were supposed to meet with canceled last minute.

I was left flabbergasted because of the absurdity of the situation going about his day and ending up in such a situation, and impressed because it was very creative

Yeah a girl whose got nothing to do, is available, and finds you sexually attractive (like the girl in this report), is more than likely to want to hang out with you opposed to a girl whose got plans, is in a relationship, and doesn’t find you sexually attractive.

What this does is allow her to sink into the seduction without verbalizing the intent towards her or creating any decision point or explicit proposition for her to resist. So it circumvents the anti slut defense and last minute resistance.

Yup. Just because a girl finds you attractive, doesn’t mean she will fuck you. You’ve got to be able to amplify that attraction into lets fuck. Talking about fucking is a great way to accomplish that

 

[KJ Francis]

And then the girl came back. I told her that I would fuck her but I don’t want to give her more pain tnan she is already feeling from the accident.

So what was the in between dialog here?

It's a cool strategy. Being a sexualized pink haired vampire werewolf with an eyebrow piercing could get exactly the girls you want coming to open you.

 

[Skills]

Congrats on the lay.

The thing is, I don't see any game or seduction here. Seems like she was super green from from start. Also, your previous lays shows you dress up to match a particular archetype (can you elaborate more on the vampire/werewolf archetype)

Do you have any lays with actual seduction/game. Probably ones involving yellow girls (girls that aren't sold on you totally) or red girls (girls who aren't interested)

I like the archetype because it can be a massive screening tool that makes things easier... does this style work in other college campuses besides the one you're close to. Or in other areas that are not college campuses

Ridiculous

 

[PaulieFlyn10]

Thank you

Well I think that is the point. I dress and look a particular way to attract (make them super green) my target demographic so that when I talk to them or they talk to me. It will be pretty straight forward.

you can look at Matteo’s video for that. But it is simply

Dress in all black
Fitted t shirt (that shows off your muscle)
Clean shaved
Wear boots
Wear silver jewelry
Flowy hairstyle
Tattoos
Have a wider bottom than your top (I.e. baggy pants + tight fit tee shirt) following the “1/3” rule

this one is also a good supplementary video by matteo

So only if a girl is not sold on you totally or aren’t interested in you, then it counts as seduction?

what would you say about this girl?

LR - Gay Fantasy Gets Her Dripping (SDL)

Hi everyone, Hope you're all doing well. I wanted to share a same day lay that happened a few hours ago. I was out shopping for a scarf in Zara when an attractive blonde with sexy pink boots registers in my peripheral vision. She's fiddling her fingers across the men shirts absentmindedly...

www.skilledseducer.com

The girl complied to everything he asked her to do and nowhere in the report did she indicate she might not be interested in him. Why is mine not seduction but his report leaving people “speechless”?

Yes the point.

Haven’t tried it elsewhere I don’t travel

Oh no. Don't compare that report with yours. The difference is clear. Not only was how he handled, led and managed the interaction there... there was some seduction elements there

I didn't notice/see much seduction or game in your report tho

Anyways, dressing to your archetype to fit a demographic Is a good way to do things especially IF there's a high number of them

 

[PaulieFlyn10]

Well he opened a girl who is stone cold sober in a mall and used skillful banter to create a playful vibe to titillate her emotionally and get her to accompany him.

I was left flabbergasted because of the absurdity of the situation going about his day and ending up in such a situation, and impressed because it was very creative. Primarily it was very smart, because just like Alek's sex talk gambits, it is a way to frame himself as skilled and knowledgeable (sexual prizing) while getting the girl to imagine the sexual acts (possibly even inserting herself in the fantasy with him instead of the waiter).

What this does is allow her to sink into the seduction without verbalizing the intent towards her or creating any decision point or explicit proposition for her to resist. So it circumvents the anti slut defense and last minute resistance.

Well said

 

[PaulieFlyn10]

Well he opened a girl who is stone cold sober in a mall and used skillful banter to create a playful vibe to titillate her emotionally and get her to accompany him.

I was left flabbergasted because of the absurdity of the situation going about his day and ending up in such a situation, and impressed because it was very creative. Primarily it was very smart, because just like Alek's sex talk gambits, it is a way to frame himself as skilled and knowledgeable (sexual prizing) while getting the girl to imagine the sexual acts (possibly even inserting herself in the fantasy with him instead of the waiter).

What this does is allow her to sink into the seduction without verbalizing the intent towards her or creating any decision point or explicit proposition for her to resist. So it circumvents the anti slut defense and last minute resistance.

Well said

 

[Spike]

@mods why was the pic of the girl removed? I did as @POB said and blurred her face so no one would be able to recognize her

The difference is clear.

Really? By your definition, it only counts as seduction if the girl isn’t sold on you totally or isn’t remotely interested in you at all. Can you point to me in James report where that is the case with his girl? Thanks.

 

[PaulieFlyn10]

@mods why was the pic of the girl removed? I did as @POB said and blurred her face so no one would be able to recognize her

Really? By your definition, it only counts as seduction if the girl isn’t sold on you totally or isn’t remotely interested in you at all. Can you point to me in James report where that is the case with his girl? Thanks.

That's not my definition of seduction lol.

I already told you things James did that can also be called seduction which your report didn't have.

 

[Spike]

That's not my definition of seduction lol.

Do you have any lays with actual seduction/game. Probably ones involving yellow girls (girls that aren't sold on you totally) or red girls (girls who aren't interested)

 

[PaulieFlyn10]

@Spike

That's not a definition of anything. It's a question lol

 

[Spike]

The implication of your question is: if she’s not already sold on you (which you can work on) or isn’t interested in you (which you can work on), then there’s no actual seduction involved.

i asked you to point out to me (which you’ve dodged twice already), where in James report is his girl is not sure about him or not interested in him, and you have failed to do so.

 

[gameboy]

Well my 2cts. Your report is basically "I got approached by a girl and she told me her friend wanted to fuck me, so I did." (I know you didn't say that, I'm exaggerating a bit here.)

in James D's report he opened the girl himself, then gives a detailled report of seductive conversations that happened including a fun episode with the gay waiter, then he took her home.

Your report reads like you didn't have to do all that much except dye your hair pink. Maybe you seduced your girl as well in some way, but if so, it isn't in the report so we don't know about it.

 

[PaulieFlyn10]

Well my 2cts. Your report is basically "I got approached by a girl and she told me her friend wanted to fuck me, so I did." (I know you didn't say that, I'm exaggerating a bit here.)

in James D's report he opened the girl himself, then gives a detailled report of seductive conversations that happened including a fun episode with the gay waiter, then he took her home.

Your report reads like you didn't have to do all that much except dye your hair pink. Maybe you seduced your girl as well in some way, but if so, it isn't in the report so we don't know about it.

The fact he doesn't see this is baffling lol

 

[PaulieFlyn10]

The implication of your question is: if she’s not already sold on you (which you can work on) or isn’t interested in you (which you can work on), then there’s no actual seduction involved.

i asked you to point out to me (which you’ve dodged twice already), where in James report is his girl is not sure about him or not interested in him, and you have failed to do so.

Your report had barely any seduction.

James report did. And others have pointed it out to you.

If you cannot see the CLEAR difference, there's no point in engaging in this conversation with you.

 

[Spike]

Your report reads like you didn't have to do all that much except dye your hair pink. Maybe you seduced your girl as well in some way, but if so, it isn't in the report so we don't know about it.

yeah that's my fault for not being as detailed

i'm just like why does the girl HAVE to be skeptical about you or not interested in you in the first place for it to count as seduction when you can work on that?

 

[KJ Francis]

blurred her face

Her eyes were scribbled over but her facial features were recognizable.

I think the difference in the reports is James led the interaction from the point of her having no awareness of him. He planted the seductive seed with the "tight" innuendo and made it happen.

In yours, the girl is the aggressor. She is the seductress and could have also posted the lay report. Your game becomes the passive role of saying "okay", which I guess is why guys don't see any "plays" to analyze.

I think it's totally valid and a testament to your fundamentals. The tagline is "get girls chasing you" after all. It's peacocking and pre-game attraction step A0.

So besides fashion expertise, if we want to learn from your success I think it would be cool to just get more detail about what you're doing with non verbals to create sexual tension, and more fleshed out transcripts of the dialog.