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thats_a_penis_disgustang

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Hello guys I just have the most hilarious problem on my hands right now.

I've gotten so good with my day game approach that I can basically have one date every day on average, which means some days it's just two dates, some of those are instant dates, some of those from recent approaches and some of those from approaches couple of days before.

You might remember me as a super Spam approach guy, which took efficiency and dedication, I just was not calibrated correctly, but trust me, making 1,500 approaches a month takes all kinds of skill, however uneffective they were (1 date per 100 approaches).

So with your help, I have remade myself into a guy who gets two three dates from 1-2hr approach session, which is about 30 approaches, which is about 20 times more effective than what I was doing in september.

And now to the current problem.

I get more and more gorgeous girls on my dates, and by gorgeous I hope you understand that I mean top 1% world class gorgeous. Seriously, when I watch Western Day game YouTube videos, those are Maybe fours and fives out of 10 by the standards of Moscow Metro.

And I'm not only talking about beauty, there's also a question of world class charisma , their beauty is not static , it's not a photo shoot Beauty , it's just insane magnetic attractiveness . It's the way they're beautiful faces move , it's the humor, it's the life experience that they have , it's all in all the most high quality girls the world can offer .

So the problem is, when I get them to the dates I get absolutely lost. I don't get shy, I don't forget to touch them, but I absolutely start acting like giddy fan. It's kind of the same when I first got to some of the most elite wedding venues in Moscow, I'm acting like give me a minute I'm taking it all in.

So how do you think can one get rid of this problem? Will it just go away when I fuck five of those kinds of girls? Or is there a specific psychological technique to suppress the influence of her beauty and charisma on me remembering a seduction process?
 

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Given how recent and brief it's been this far, with that volume of exposure, I would expect you'll desensitize over the short term and also develop solid outcome independence.

Sounds like getting giddy over catching snowflakes on your tongue. If they keep on falling, I think you'll be just fine.
 

Will_V

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Hello guys I just have the most hilarious problem on my hands right now.

I've gotten so good with my day game approach that I can basically have one date every day on average, which means some days it's just two dates, some of those are instant dates, some of those from recent approaches and some of those from approaches couple of days before.

You might remember me as a super Spam approach guy, which took efficiency and dedication, I just was not calibrated correctly, but trust me, making 1,500 approaches a month takes all kinds of skill, however uneffective they were (1 date per 100 approaches).

So with your help, I have remade myself into a guy who gets two three dates from 1-2hr approach session, which is about 30 approaches, which is about 20 times more effective than what I was doing in september.

And now to the current problem.

I get more and more gorgeous girls on my dates, and by gorgeous I hope you understand that I mean top 1% world class gorgeous. Seriously, when I watch Western Day game YouTube videos, those are Maybe fours and fives out of 10 by the standards of Moscow Metro.

And I'm not only talking about beauty, there's also a question of world class charisma , their beauty is not static , it's not a photo shoot Beauty , it's just insane magnetic attractiveness . It's the way they're beautiful faces move , it's the humor, it's the life experience that they have , it's all in all the most high quality girls the world can offer .

So the problem is, when I get them to the dates I get absolutely lost. I don't get shy, I don't forget to touch them, but I absolutely start acting like giddy fan. It's kind of the same when I first got to some of the most elite wedding venues in Moscow, I'm acting like give me a minute I'm taking it all in.

So how do you think can one get rid of this problem? Will it just go away when I fuck five of those kinds of girls? Or is there a specific psychological technique to suppress the influence of her beauty and charisma on me remembering a seduction process?

Glad to hear your seduction process is getting more refined!

Sounds like you're someone that can easily get overstimulated - have you tried meditating? I find it helps with lowering all kinds of emotional arousal.
 

isildur1

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Glad to hear your seduction process is getting more refined!

Sounds like you're someone that can easily get overstimulated - have you tried meditating? I find it helps with lowering all kinds of emotional arousal.
Agree 100 percent op is definitely overthinking a lot - needs to just enjoy the dates if these women find him attractive enough to go directly to his place then the attraction phase is there which is a huge positive 95 percent of the battle is already won - maybe this overthinking is taking him away from the present moment and that’s why he’s getting lmr- women can sense easily if a guy isn’t mentally present or is panicking I’ve been called out for it numerous times myself.
 

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Agree 100 percent op is definitely overthinking a lot - needs to just enjoy the dates if these women find him attractive enough to go directly to his place then the attraction phase is there which is a huge positive 95 percent of the battle is already won - maybe this overthinking is taking him away from the present moment and that’s why he’s getting lmr- women can sense easily if a guy isn’t mentally present or is panicking I’ve been called out for it numerous times myself.

Very good point! You can't go from 60+ spam approaches a day to being smooth on dates or back home in a short space of time. Chances are the hamster wheel is still spinning fast and she can sense it.

Meditation, relaxing music, physical exercise, all helps to slow that wheel down and bring you into the present.
 

thats_a_penis_disgustang

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Agree 100 percent op is definitely overthinking a lot - needs to just enjoy the dates if these women find him attractive enough to go directly to his place then the attraction phase is there which is a huge positive 95 percent of the battle is already won - maybe this overthinking is taking him away from the present moment and that’s why he’s getting lmr- women can sense easily if a guy isn’t mentally present or is panicking I’ve been called out for it numerous times myself.
Of course I am over stimulated, but not because I had a one date with one beautiful girl, rather than I've taken 2030 numbers in last two weeks, and had four dates in last 4 days, so it all is actually a bit much for my developing brain to handle. And the funniest thing is it doesn't stop, I have a date lined up for the next 4 days as well. Thank God I'm on vacation right now and I can spend my time reading and preparing for those dates
 

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Of course I am over stimulated, but not because I had a one date with one beautiful girl, rather than I've taken 2030 numbers in last two weeks, and had four dates in last 4 days, so it all is actually a bit much for my developing brain to handle. And the funniest thing is it doesn't stop, I have a date lined up for the next 4 days as well. Thank God I'm on vacation right now and I can spend my time reading and preparing for those dates
Your brain will adjust.

I remember when dating girls used to be incredibly overstimulating for me back when I first started PUA. I could hardly sleep or think of anything else.

Over time, with enough girls banged, you'll have enough mental reference points and confidence that you can just relax and you won't have to think so hard.

Just make sure you're focusing on actually getting to sex and not just dating them.
 

isildur1

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Your brain will adjust.

I remember when dating girls used to be incredibly overstimulating for me back when I first started PUA. I could hardly sleep or think of anything else.

Over time, with enough girls banged, you'll have enough mental reference points and confidence that you can just relax and you won't have to think so hard.

Just make sure you're focusing on actually getting to sex and not just dating them.
Seems like he’s over focusing on that? If he’s getting so much lmr and trying to fuck everything after one date maybe prolonging the seduction and building some suspense is better

first date lays aren’t necessarily the best port of call they can lead alot to buyers remorse and lmr - building the seduction over 2-3 dates might be a better course of action if one is getting a tonne of lmr on the first date
 

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Seems like he’s over focusing on that? If he’s getting so much lmr and trying to fuck everything after one date maybe prolonging the seduction and building some suspense is better

first date lays aren’t necessarily the best port of call they can lead alot to buyers remorse and lmr - building the seduction over 2-3 dates might be a better course of action if one is getting a tonne of lmr on the first date
Yeah I don't know how to do that. I've had 30 days on the first date, I'm getting better and better.

I only know how to be very sexual on the first date, bring them home, touch their pussy, make out. I believe I'm 95% there, and I believe I just need a little push, after which there will be an avalanche of pussy for me
 

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Your brain will adjust.

I remember when dating girls used to be incredibly overstimulating for me back when I first started PUA. I could hardly sleep or think of anything else.
I don't know, @Atlas IV. When I joined this forum I completed around 250 approaches in the first year (not anywhere near the figures @thats_a_penis_disgustang is mentioning, but still intense by my standards), went on a whole lot of dates, and yet I wouldn't say my mind "adjusted". I am still overwhelmed by women's tenderness. This passage resonated for me:
their beauty is not static , it's not a photo shoot Beauty , it's just insane magnetic attractiveness . It's the way they're beautiful faces move , it's the humor
I guess I'm going against the consensus, but from where I'm standing, l'appétit vient en mangeant. As contact with women accumulates I seem only to appreciate them more.

I don't think I'd want to be "desensitized" to their charms, either.
 
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Might sound like a joke but jerk off and bust a huge load before a date or before going for a pick up session.
That's what I used to do more than a decade ago . Masturbating in general isn't a good thing but in those specific cases it definitely is . Will give you a clear mind for a few hours .

I only care about results, not theory, so do what works .

Also 30 approches for a date is still too much . My guys get a date in 5 to 10 approaches max .
 

thats_a_penis_disgustang

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Might sound like a joke but jerk off and bust a huge load before a date or before going for a pick up session.
That's what I used to do more than a decade ago . Masturbating in general isn't a good thing but in those specific cases it definitely is . Will give you a clear mind for a few hours .

I only care about results, not theory, so do what works .

Also 30 approches for a date is still too much . My guys get a date in 5 to 10 approaches max .
Is that a solid repeatable statistics? Because when I start approaching, and I just spend 3 weeks getting rid of spam approach mentality, I still get girls with huge Smiles very happy that I approached, but who are married I still get girls who are way too shy and or have bad experiences with other man approaching, who just ignore me wave me off, rarely, but that happens. I still sometimes get a dates for the first approach that I do, or I can make 10 approaches and no date or even number at all. How exactly can you get a date every five approaches? If you are extremely solid you can probably get a date every 10:15 approaches, but just statistics alone will not let you have a date every five approaches on a consistent rates, I just don't believe that. I am still learning to slow myself down and give myself time route to recharge between approaches, even though there are much more girls who are top 1% gorgeous in Metro
 

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Is that a solid repeatable statistics? Because when I start approaching, and I just spend 3 weeks getting rid of spam approach mentality, I still get girls with huge Smiles very happy that I approached, but who are married I still get girls who are way too shy and or have bad experiences with other man approaching, who just ignore me wave me off, rarely, but that happens. I still sometimes get a dates for the first approach that I do, or I can make 10 approaches and no date or even number at all. How exactly can you get a date every five approaches? If you are extremely solid you can probably get a date every 10:15 approaches, but just statistics alone will not let you have a date every five approaches on a consistent rates, I just don't believe that. I am still learning to slow myself down and give myself time route to recharge between approaches, even though there are much more girls who are top 1% gorgeous in Metro
It's never just a numbers game. It's a numbers game Vs your skill level. If you combine Learning how to deal with most issues that arise in a pick up situation with learning how to select with girls that are more dtf based on observation you get these type of numbers.
 
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