Calls & Texts Girls Flanking

[Nicko]

Hey guys!

Just a quick post on my text msgs, on girls flaking to my txts . I need some help with understanding what went wrong here, hope i can apply new gain knowledge to apply to other girls.

A instant date with this girl and her 8 yr old young brother lol, set a date for the next week which ultimately didn't happen because she didn't respond to me

Spoiler

Sunday

Me:Hey HB, do u know who u remind me off -Nicko 4:13 pm
Her;I don't know 4: 15pm
Her:*laughing cat emoji* 4:15 pm
Me: do u wanna know *thinking emoji* 4:56pm
Her: sure 5:01pm
Me: are u being sarcastic*laughing emoji*? 5:11pm
her: whaat*laughing emoji* 5:12pm
her:do you think so? *laughing emoji* 5:12pm
Me: u don't sound enthuasiatic enough* laughing emoji*6:27pm
her: lmaoo *XD emoji* 6:29pm
Me:did u get home? 6:54pm
Her: im on the way 6:59
Me: were u a lil brat on the way home *laughing emoji* 8:05pm
her: lmao I guess* rolling laughing emoji* 9:07pm
Me: what happen lol, did [younger brother name] bully u? 9:24pm
Her: its '[correct younger brother name'' *laughing emoji* 9:24pm
Me: are u lying * laughing emoji ( Monday 6:10pm)

I re-open ( 2 days later)

Me:ur talkative (4:37pm)
Her: lol (4:40 pm)
Me: how was school? did u tease a few girls who's shorter than you*laughing emoji*( 4:46 pm)

Maybe I was negging too much, I big no no. I thought of it as teasing but the last one was a neg with out any prior emotions build up. How should I have contiued the conversation at 'lol' ?

 

[Skills]

just bad texting in general, too playerish, comes across weird.... Cut all that keep it simple, flirty, make her invest and want to participate in the texting...

 

[Nicko]

just bad texting in general, too playerish, comes across weird.... Cut all that keep it simple, flirty, make her invest and want to participate in the texting...

good point

Can u give me an example of text flirting? my idea of flirting over text probably doesn’t match up

 

[Will_V]

You started a lot of teasing threads and never wrapped any of them up, so she realized they were just made up on the spot to get a reaction from her. Overall you kept demanding a reaction, which is a bit needy and pushy.

"Do you know who you remind me of?" She's curious and hooked, a bit of tension is created. Then you never release the tension with something funny or cute. You have to have an answer of some kind before you ask that kind of question. Even "I'll tell you on our next date" would be far more acceptable than just ignoring the topic as if it never existed.

Remember what the purpose of teasing is: it's to create tension so that you can then release it and make her feel good. If a comedian never got to the punch line or delivery and just switched topics randomly, the audience would get too tense and start to really not enjoy the show.

Also, it's obvious you never really thought about your lines. "Were you a lil brat on the way home?" where will that lead? Even if she says yes (which she kind of did) you were left flailing around for a way to keep it going.

For teasing, always, always make it specific to her. Find something you like about her (preferably that you eventually would like to qualify her on) and then frame it in a way where she's not sure if you're making a bit of fun or not.

Tell me, what's something about her specifically you kinda like and would love to tease her about?

 

[Nicko]

For teasing, always, always make it specific to her. Find something you like about her (preferably that you eventually would like to qualify her on) and then frame it in a way where she's not sure if you're making a bit of fun or not.

Tell me, what's something about her specifically you kinda like and would love to tease her about?

Yeah! i just realised with these empty lines had no purpose! how would have you continued texting her?

I remember i would love to tease her for being very giggly in person around me which i thought it was cute and framed her as nervous and excited around me

 

[Will_V]

What do you think might be a good text to tease her about it?

 

[Nicko]

What do you think might be a good text to tease her about it?

perhaps asking why she was so giggly in person

text: ‘’Say are u always this giggly around guys ’’

do u think putting ‘’ at a end of a tease would be good or not?

 

[Will_V]

perhaps asking why she was so giggly in person

text: ‘’Say are u always this giggly around guys ’’

do u think putting ‘’ at a end of a tease would be good or not?

Not bad! Now she can tell that you're talking to her, that this is about her and isn't some random spam tease message.

And I like how you added 'around guys'. Because if you just point out her giggling, she might feel weird and start thinking you're judging her. But if you imply that it was just because she was nervous around you because she liked you, that makes her think about the possibility that it's true.

You can see this is already a text thread that has a lot of potential, since it's already about you and her and how you feel about each other. She's going to be thinking a lot about you specifically as she participates in it.

Another way to do it more indirectly is something like "Hey miss giggles having a wonderful week/weekend..?" It's a bit push pull because it's a tease followed by something nice.

And yes, I use a lot of emojis, especially winkyface, and especially when you're teasing her, you can't afford for her to misread the text as something serious and get nervous or confused and not respond at all.

 

[Nicko]

Not bad! Now she can tell that you're talking to her, that this is about her and isn't some random spam tease message.

And I like how you added 'around guys'. Because if you just point out her giggling, she might feel weird and start thinking you're judging her. But if you imply that it was just because she was nervous around you because she liked you, that makes her think about the possibility that it's true.

You can see this is already a text thread that has a lot of potential, since it's already about you and her and how you feel about each other. She's going to be thinking a lot about you specifically as she participates in it.

Another way to do it more indirectly is something like "Hey miss giggles having a wonderful week/weekend..?" It's a bit push pull because it's a tease followed by something nice.

And yes, I use a lot of emojis, especially winkyface, and especially when you're teasing her, you can't afford for her to misread the text as something serious and get nervous or confused and not respond at all.

thats Awesome Will_V! that helped alot

do u think this conversation is salvageable?

 

[Will_V]

thats Awesome Will_V! that helped alot

do u think this conversation is salvageable?

Who knows? My advice is leave it a couple of days and then send her a nice message, something not too teasy. Remember, the date is where you can escalate, the phone is just for keeping things warm.

Guys often think a woman stops responding because she doesn't want to talk anymore. It's not the case. Women often simply don't know how to react to something lame and don't respond. OK fine, fix the problem and move on.

 

[dark hawk]

If you feel confident and know what to say, you could leave her a audio messsage

 

[Nicko]

If you feel confident and know what to say, you could leave her a audio messsage

I used Will_V’s indirect msg

but could have used audio message for better effect. I use messenger and it disappears after a few minutes, do u save it for it stay on the message logs or something? cuz it just dissepears from my side lol

Hey miss giggles having a wonderful week/weekend..?

and she responded instantly

she said: nope *tear drop emoji*
Me: aww why??
her:idk its been a hard week
me:did u take rest today?

the conversation was a few minutes apart

we planned to go eat dessert for our meet so i think ill go into that direction

her: ‘’ I didn’t rest because of xyz/yeah I did’’

Soft close:
Me: ‘’you know eating dessert with a person improves ur mood ’’

 

[Skills]

perhaps asking why she was so giggly in person

text: ‘’Say are u always this giggly around guys ’’

do u think putting ‘’ at a end of a tease would be good or not?

You know what is so unique and different about you that i liked and made me want to get to know you?

her: aww.. and what is that?

nicko: is that you are always giggling, i love that , find that adorable....

^ look at the difference on how i say the same thing you said..

do i sound playrish puaish??

 

[Skills]

I used Will_V’s indirect msg

but could have used audio message for better effect. I use messenger and it disappears after a few minutes, do u save it for it stay on the message logs or something? cuz it just dissepears from my side lol

and she responded instantly

she said: nope *tear drop emoji*
Me: aww why??
her:idk its been a hard week
me:did u take rest today?

the conversation was a few minutes apart

we planned to go eat dessert for our meet so i think ill go into that direction

her: ‘’ I didn’t rest because of xyz/yeah I did’’

Soft close:
Me: ‘’you know eating dessert with a person improves ur mood ’’

that sentence after about being a hard week were you said, did you take a rest today was unnecessary and weak... look how i would handle it so you get general ideas...

when she said nope tear emoji....

i suspected that is probably cause you missed nicko, j/k, what happened?

her: idk its been a hard week...

nicko: then you should take a break and have fun and relax with a fun handsome (and a characteristic that is obvious is nicko), this is a soft close...

wait for response

then close, do you prefer coffee or drink? etc...

 

[Nicko]

that sentence after about being a hard week were you said, did you take a rest today was unnecessary and weak... look how i would handle it so you get general ideas...

when she said nope tear emoji....

i suspected that is probably cause you missed nicko, j/k, what happened?

her: idk its been a hard week...

nicko: then you should take a break and have fun and relax with a fun handsome (and a characteristic that is obvious is nicko), this is a soft close...

wait for response

then close, do you prefer coffee or drink? etc...

yeah ur point was proved to me it was unnecessary and she didn’t respond..

i had a thought the next day she didn’t respond was I should have went for a soft close

ill shoot her a msg about the soft close

I have trouble knowing what ‘kind’(tease, close, re-open, qualify, invest, ect.) of text to use. my orignal idea was her to invest a bit more into the convo

Me:‘’did u rest today’’
Her: ‘no because xyz’’

then soft close then with a bit more investment

Thanks for the insight!

 

[Will_V]

I used Will_V’s indirect msg

but could have used audio message for better effect. I use messenger and it disappears after a few minutes, do u save it for it stay on the message logs or something? cuz it just dissepears from my side lol

and she responded instantly

she said: nope *tear drop emoji*
Me: aww why??
her:idk its been a hard week
me:did u take rest today?

the conversation was a few minutes apart

we planned to go eat dessert for our meet so i think ill go into that direction

her: ‘’ I didn’t rest because of xyz/yeah I did’’

Soft close:
Me: ‘’you know eating dessert with a person improves ur mood ’’

Too many questions, not paying attention and no clear direction or frame control.

Questions are a typically bad for text unless they arouse curiosity or lead the conversation in a clear direction. In my opinion, no text should ever contain only a question. It's a weak, chasing frame at best, and spammy at worst. Remember, it's a man's job to lead a conversation somewhere interesting, a girl only knows how to follow. If you leave her to her devices, she'll ramble about boring stuff like she's talking to her mum, suddenly wonder why you're interested in her boring bs, and go and find some other dude who won't put up with it. You better believe that girls know very well how boring they can be, that's why they go after dudes who make their life exciting.

Next, you're not paying attention. She says "it's been a hard week". You did not address this, but ignored her response and asked a random, boring question again about whether she took a rest. Does a guy with shit to do and plenty of girls to bang have time to ask a girl questions about whether she took a rest or not?

Finally, there is no frame control or leading of the conversation. What is your goal? You want to talk about exciting things and get her on a date and bang her, right? You don't have time to faff around listening to her problems and asking about her rest periods.

So let's look at her last response "idk its been a hard week". Your warning bells should go off. You should be thinking "this is a conversational sink hole, let's get out of here fast. How do we do that by:

1. Being nice and showing consideration
2. Not asking boring questions
3. Taking the conversation elsewhere, preferably something sexual.

??"

I would reply with something like this: "Aw some weeks are like that, things get a little bit much, but it always passes .. know what's my favorite way to relax and unwind?"

1. You address her response and show consideration "Aw some weeks are like that, things get a little bit much". You also pace her reality a bit, by reflecting that you understand what she's feeling, and you wrap it on a positive, constructive note "it always passes ". Conversational thread over.

2. You lead the conversation elsewhere with a question that is intriguing and almost certainly going to get her curious and ask "what is it?"

3. Now you've got her talking about interesting, fun, possibly sexual or romantic things, which is actually conducive to seduction. You could talk about meditation (my favorite, I always veer it in a physical/sexual direction and assume an authority figure position), you could talk about a date idea that you've got (e.g. going to the beach or somewhere interesting), you could talk about literally anything that's fun and interesting to do, and get her talking about what she likes.

Remember a girl doesn't know how to lead anything, whether a conversation, a date, an escalation or sex. That's your job. Your job is to create the emotion that leads her along to where you want her (and she wants) to be. To do that you must ruthlessly cut bad conversational threads and pull things back in the direction of good feelings, fun and sex.

 

[Nicko]

Too many questions, not paying attention and no clear direction or frame control.

Questions are a typically bad for text unless they arouse curiosity or lead the conversation in a clear direction. In my opinion, no text should ever contain only a question. It's a weak, chasing frame at best, and spammy at worst. Remember, it's a man's job to lead a conversation somewhere interesting, a girl only knows how to follow. If you leave her to her devices, she'll ramble about boring stuff like she's talking to her mum, suddenly wonder why you're interested in her boring bs, and go and find some other dude who won't put up with it. You better believe that girls know very well how boring they can be, that's why they go after dudes who make their life exciting.

Next, you're not paying attention. She says "it's been a hard week". You did not address this, but ignored her response and asked a random, boring question again about whether she took a rest. Does a guy with shit to do and plenty of girls to bang have time to ask a girl questions about whether she took a rest or not?

Finally, there is no frame control or leading of the conversation. What is your goal? You want to talk about exciting things and get her on a date and bang her, right? You don't have time to faff around listening to her problems and asking about her rest periods.

So let's look at her last response "idk its been a hard week". Your warning bells should go off. You should be thinking "this is a conversational sink hole, let's get out of here fast. How do we do that by:

1. Being nice and showing consideration
2. Not asking boring questions
3. Taking the conversation elsewhere, preferably something sexual.

??"

I would reply with something like this: "Aw some weeks are like that, things get a little bit much, but it always passes .. know what's my favorite way to relax and unwind?"

1. You address her response and show consideration "Aw some weeks are like that, things get a little bit much". You also pace her reality a bit, by reflecting that you understand what she's feeling, and you wrap it on a positive, constructive note "it always passes ". Conversational thread over.

2. You lead the conversation elsewhere with a question that is intriguing and almost certainly going to get her curious and ask "what is it?"

3. Now you've got her talking about interesting, fun, possibly sexual or romantic things, which is actually conducive to seduction. You could talk about meditation (my favorite, I always veer it in a physical/sexual direction and assume an authority figure position), you could talk about a date idea that you've got (e.g. going to the beach or somewhere interesting), you could talk about literally anything that's fun and interesting to do, and get her talking about what she likes.

Remember a girl doesn't know how to lead anything, whether a conversation, a date, an escalation or sex. That's your job. Your job is to create the emotion that leads her along to where you want her (and she wants) to be. To do that you must ruthlessly cut bad conversational threads and pull things back in the direction of good feelings, fun and sex.

Yep Will_V I should have for saw that, I have so much to learn ahaha!

I screwed up and sent her a follow up today after noon

1:08pm

‘’in that case you should take a break with a handsome boy *winky face*’’

no response lol


ill keep posting this kind of threads frequently until i develop good enough text game for consistent dates

I got 2 numbers with much more better text responses ill put it up tmrw for u guys to cretic haha