Girls give away with the high value male (even if you do not have game). So why the hell do you want to improve game?

[BlueK]

Exactly as the post says.
If you are a high value guy girls will chase you, will orbitate around you and will want to hook up with you without saying one fucking word.
So the conclusion is. You dont need fucking game, improving game is even harder than becoming a high value male, since you will have to go out everyday and approach millions of girls and embrace a lot of shame and painful rejections left and right until you underestand with many years how girls function.
There are a better and easiest way to get a lot of girls and will skyrocket your game by product without doing it the hard way.
In fact most of the high value friends (naturals and extremely good with women) NEVER do cold approach NEVER EVER.

I never forgot a Hot girl (she was a HB 9) who rejected me over texting and She said "I sometimes give away with certain type of males" it was mindblowing for me and I realized that was not only this girl but usually hot girls give away with the high value male without needing to approach them at all

 

[Regal Tiger]

It's all about percentages mate

Sure, if you're a high status male then there are some chicks who will go to bed with you regardless of your game or not (good luck keeping them though because she's probably only around for his money rather than him and she will probably end up running the relationship completely)


But, if you're a good seducer then you don't have to have sky high value to get women nor keep them around. Because they're around for the person and how that person makes them feel. There are complications if your value is too low (or even too high) compared to hers, sure. But for best results then just go after both (my personal recommendation is learn women in your early twenties and then go about building your empire after, that's just me and my opinion though)

From what I've seen in the world, you don't have to be the best of both to get the best results. If you're an above average seducer and above average in value, then you'll be a pretty top notch guy.


But to say that you don't need game is completely asinine. Furthermore, you're on a website/forum for game talking about how you don't need game. That just reeks of autistic levels of calibration. C'mon man, go peddle your message to a better audience.

 

[BlueK]

Even you agree with me.
But you are overestimating the power of game to bang girls because what you are missing is this sentence:

if you do not have value, you can be the best seducer in the world and you wont fuck girls because girls do not fuck seducers but males with values

Most of those famous PUAs in the media are already rich and use those values to get abundance but they proclaim they just have game.

If you realize most of those famous PUAs on youtube spend their life travelling.

If you have money for travelling and going from club to club, from country to country and that financial freedom is Incredible easy to have an abundance mentality.

I remember RSD todd who says He always showed picture of him travelling in the texting game to girls
Is that game??
If I show to a hot girl pictures of me having an incredible lifestyle I will certainly have a high chance to hook up with her.

Also you do not have to be sky high value as you say, you just have to be financially free to improve your lifestyle a little bit above average males.

I approach a lot of women and I get this question a lot: What do you do?. It means they are screening your value and indirectly how much money do you make and ultimately how successfull you are.

The forum is not about GAME, it is about How to get laid

 

[Starboy]

remember RSD todd who says He always showed picture of him travelling in the texting game to girls
Is that game??
If I show to a hot girl pictures of me having an incredible lifestyle I will certainly have a high chance to hook up with her.

That's social media and online game.

I approach a lot of women and I get this question a lot: What do you do?. It means they are screening your value and indirectly how much money do you make and ultimately how successfull you are.

I mean it's a standard question and everyone asks it because everyone has a natural curiosity especially if you just approached them. When people tell you "how are you" or tell you to "take care" or "have a good day" do you mechanically break down what they truly mean when they say these phrases and what their intentions are?

 

[BlueK]

That's social media and online game.

It is just an example of what they do to get girls (showing value), real game should be flirting over text, not bragging with pictures but they know that flirting over text with a girl who are not too much attracted to doesnt work.

An example would be.
Quit your job, work on a mc donald 12h a day, and even you have good technical game.
I will be certain that your success with girls will decrese a lot because firstly your vibe depend on how much abundance you are feeling and surely if you are not financially free you wont have too much abundance feelings.

One thing depend from the other.

That is why I say that having good game is just proportional on how much abundance you have in life.

Think about a man who is rich. He does not care about getting too much rejection because he knows he can pay for sex and fill the need whenever he wants and he can keep taking action and getting rejection because there is no frustration for not getting sex from time to time. That is abundance. Abundance is the feeling of having alternatives

 

[Starboy]

Think about a man who is rich. He does not care about getting too much rejection because he knows he can pay for sex and fill the need whenever he wants and he can keep taking action and getting rejection because there is no frustration for not getting sex from time to time. That is abundance. Abundance is the feeling of having alternatives

You really said that being a rich man and having the option to pay for escorts and hookers is abundance ? Yeah i'm outie

 

[Regal Tiger]

Even you agree with me.

You're either trolling or your reading comprehension is worse than the people I graduated with... and that's saying something >.>

But you are overestimating the power of game to bang girls because what you are missing is this sentence:

Literally contradicting yourself a literal sentence later... you can't make this shit up lmao

if you do not have value, you can be the best seducer in the world and you wont fuck girls because girls do not fuck seducers but males with values

I'm done with you, tried to be nice, but now you're just straight up lying. I never said that. I didn't even imply it, not even in a kinda-sorta-almost way. You're impossible to have a conversation with. I'd say good luck in life but you'd probably fuck that up to lmao

 

[Regal Tiger]

I mean it's a standard question and everyone asks it because everyone has a natural curiosity especially if you just approached them. When people tell you "how are you" or tell you to "take care" or "have a good day" do you mechanically break down what they truly mean when they say these phrases and what their intentions are?

Wait... you mean you don't? Lmao XD

 

[trashKENNUT]

In fact most of the high value friends (naturals and extremely good with women) NEVER do cold approach NEVER EVER.

At the end of the day, it's still pussy right?

And no one really cares whether it is cold approach or social circle. Because most society won't care, and guys even PUAs who are intermediate only waits to fish her out when you make a mistake.

Important. I like to highlight that there are important talking points that you bring on here. I won't go ahead with the discussion because you are all over the place. I feel like you are pissed about a lot of old beliefs. You are annoyed and rightfully so. To make a guess on you, I sense that many of us are looking out to other people to finally let go that beliefs that no longer works. and this is very evident in a lot of men today because they have lacking of fathers and father figures and post modernism society.

You can let go of that old beliefs, man. You can do what works for you. You can go and do your thing.

z@c+

 

[BlueK]

Dude, let me ask you
How do you think most men get girlfriends? Do you think men have "game"? Why do most of the hottest girls in my school usually hook ups with males who are richer than the average male??
I have seen those rich males be authentics AFCs but still get the hottest girls? Is that not unfair?
The truth is that most relation outhere happened with the male inviting the girl to his house and the girl complying to that (it is all or nothing, if the girl refuse to the invitation, the man just move on) and actually that is how most relation happen in real life, not because the males have game in fact the more I see males the more I see how non alpha they are

 

[sejinlee09]

So go become high value then. Some people think game works and peope like you think high value works. So go get rich and jacked

 

[DarkKnight]

I really dislike indulging guys like this.... They always seem to derail the boards

 

[Tr1cky]

Can you define high value and lay out the steps for us to achieve it?

 

[Teevster]

How do you think most men get girlfriends? Do you think men have "game"? Why do most of the hottest girls in my school usually hook ups with males who are richer than the average male??

How most men get girlfriends is irrelevant to us (at least to me), since we do not want the results most men get - we want to go beyond that. All good if you do want to get normal results (avg 7 sex partners in a lifetime - I will do that in a month), but that is not what we are here for.

Regarding girls going for rich guys - sure for some women do, especially girls in/from countries with lots of economic inequality. These girls will seek wealth and wealthy men more than girls from more egalitarian societies.

However it is true that wealth is a sign of high social value. I said... "A SIGN" not "THE SIGN" of social value. Some women value that aspect of social value more than others - and these will go for the rich guys. This depends on her mental model and her overall social frame: her perception of what type of men she thinks she should hook up with on a social level (this could also be further enhanced by general social conditioning stemming from cultural background, as well as demographic and socioeconomic factors).

The idea behind pick up is to bypass all this - basically play with cheat codes. This is done by reframing of mental frame of "I want X (rich?) and Y guys" into reconsidering her desires ("maybe I should try this artistic guy for once..." - just an example of course). This is usually done through sexual frames ("I will do this artistic guys because it seems like he is relaxed about sex and seems like a potential good lover"). Sure the social aspect matters... but if you do not match her social frame and desires then things are unlikely to work out for you (i.e. she is a gold-digger and you are broke), you still have a chance through sexual frames or by satisfying another one of her social needs (which in this case you have to either elicit them or induce them).

Of course things are more complicated than that and I am leaving a lot of details as well as "how to do all this" out of this post, but that's basically what pick up is all about.

If that's your thing, then welcome.

If not, I wish you good luck on your journey.

Best,
Teevs

 

[Lover]

Why do most of the hottest girls in my school usually hook ups with males who are richer than the average male??

Your school? You're missing a gigantic part of the picture if that is your reference. There is more to this than what you see in school. Go out in the world once you graduate and see it for yourself... let's have another chat once you do that

 

[BlueK]

Can you define high value and lay out the steps for us to achieve it?

What do we value in a woman?
Hot ass, good shape, beautiful face, nice tits, etc etc (Reproductive values)
The women who have those quality we most want are HIGH VALUE WOMEN, and the more the girl fits into our ideal woman, the higher value she is is for us, that simple dude!

Now, What do girls value in a man?
Strong men with muscles, strong character and masculinity, dominance, leadership, Social Position and Fame (High Social Status), Resources to survive (Money, House, Job, etc)
(Survival values)
The men who have those qualities that women most want are HIGH VALUE MEN, and the more the man possess these stuff, the higher value that man is for women, that simple!

And this is hugh mate! --> Having Money is the easiest way to become a High Value Male, NOT PRACTICING GAME AS A PUA or embracing the grind.

It is True that the High Value is inside the mind, and not the money itself, but self help is the worst path to it. That is why when a new pua starts getting laids with pure game then he starts a dating guru youtube channel and a bussiness to grab money and become higher value (because they started with 0 money) but if you start with money (i am not saying rich or millionare, it is about having enough money to live the PUA lifestyle) you are already high value and if you are not getting laids is because you simply are not approaching women.

And the reason why money is so important to get laids is because money is necessary to survive. Do you think a girl will marry a good looking homeless man??? Do you think that?? No. Money have so much value to survive that is higher priority than masculity, strong character and other alpha behaviors in a man. Women look for men who are living independent, who has money and resources to live, so she can have kids with those without risking the survival of their childrens.

Am I saying you need to be rich?? Hell No!. You just need to have an income that allow you to live the PUA Lifestyle.

What is the PUA Lifestyle?
A life where you do not need anybody to live the life that you want, a life where you can travel and have fun so you can build feelings of freedom, high self steem, carefreenes, self realization and an abundance state of mind. That is how you become a real high value man. Money gets you there fast.

Therefore it is not the money that attract girls but what the money can do.

Let say you live in USA and you have to go to Rome city to become high value man, going through the path of the money is like going in a airplane, instead going through the path of game is like going in a boat (you will take long time to realize what is a high value male for real).


Here is why focusing ONLY on game is non sense and retarded instead of focusing on building your lifestyle and finding a financial income.

How the hell are you gonna DHV in an interaction in a cold approach when you do not even have money to go on vacation to a good place and take at least attractive photos or to tell an interesting high value story to a girl from that vacation???

what are you going to talk with a girl? What attractive qualities are you going to show to a girl if the only shit you do is lying ona sofa warching netflix

you see how "good game" is just the result of having an interesting lifestyle. If you are focusing on game you are doing everything at the inverse

PUA techniques will not work if you are a depressed man who complain because he is having no fun in life. And most PUAs keep saying that it is not what you say but how you say it.

 

[Skills]

What do we value in a woman?
Hot ass, good shape, beautiful face, nice tits, etc etc (Reproductive values)
The women who have those quality we most want are HIGH VALUE WOMEN, and the more the girl fits into our ideal woman, the higher value she is is for us, that simple dude!

Now, What do girls value in a man?
Strong men with muscles, strong character and masculinity, dominance, leadership, Social Position and Fame (High Social Status), Resources to survive (Money, House, Job, etc)
(Survival values)
The men who have those qualities that women most want are HIGH VALUE MEN, and the more the man possess these stuff, the higher value that man is for women, that simple!

And this is hugh mate! --> Having Money is the easiest way to become a High Value Male, NOT PRACTICING GAME AS A PUA or embracing the grind.

It is True that the High Value is inside the mind, and not the money itself, but self help is the worst path to it. That is why when a new pua starts getting laids with pure game then he starts a dating guru youtube channel and a bussiness to grab money and become higher value (because they started with 0 money) but if you start with money (i am not saying rich or millionare, it is about having enough money to live the PUA lifestyle) you are already high value and if you are not getting laids is because you simply are not approaching women.

And the reason why money is so important to get laids is because money is necessary to survive. Do you think a girl will marry a good looking homeless man??? Do you think that?? No. Money have so much value to survive that is higher priority than masculity, strong character and other alpha behaviors in a man. Women look for men who are living independent, who has money and resources to live, so she can have kids with those without risking the survival of their childrens.

Am I saying you need to be rich?? Hell No!. You just need to have an income that allow you to live the PUA Lifestyle.

What is the PUA Lifestyle?
A life where you do not need anybody to live the life that you want, a life where you can travel and have fun so you can build feelings of freedom, high self steem, carefreenes, self realization and an abundance state of mind. That is how you become a real high value man. Money gets you there fast.

Therefore it is not the money that attract girls but what the money can do.

Let say you live in USA and you have to go to Rome city to become high value man, going through the path of the money is like going in a airplane, instead going through the path of game is like going in a boat (you will take long time to realize what is a high value male for real).


Here is why focusing ONLY on game is non sense and retarded instead of focusing on building your lifestyle and finding a financial income.

How the hell are you gonna DHV in an interaction in a cold approach when you do not even have money to go on vacation to a good place and take at least attractive photos or to tell an interesting high value story to a girl from that vacation???

what are you going to talk with a girl? What attractive qualities are you going to show to a girl if the only shit you do is lying ona sofa warching netflix

you see how "good game" is just the result of having an interesting lifestyle. If you are focusing on game you are doing everything at the inverse

Any PUA technique will work if you are a depressed man who complain because he is having no fun in life. And most PUAs keep saying that it is not what you say but how you say it.

How many girls have you fucked using good game?
How many girls have you fucked as a rich dude?
How many girls have you fucked as a jacket dude with muscles?
How many girls have you fucked as a high status dude?

If you can not answer you are a kj

 

[Vision]

Lol, this is some clever trolling.

 

[Skills]

Lol, this is some clever trolling.

Yep

 

[BlueK]

How many girls have you fucked using good game?
How many girls have you fucked as a rich dude?
How many girls have you fucked as a jacket dude with muscles?
How many girls have you fucked as a high status dude?

If you can not answer you are a kj

First of All, Tell me you, what are the skills you say you use that you consider as "GAME"????

Because there is no fucking skills!