Date Plans "Haha, yeahhh, but it will have to be with my friend :D"

[Skjöldr]

Hey guys
So i number closed this girl this evening. 2-set. I got her number, they are from elsewhere in the country and is visiting my city for the weekend. I told her, we should meet up together tomorrow. These girls are travelling together so it is maybe understandable that she don't wanna leave her friend alone in this city and meet up with me by herself. Here's texting:

Texting back and forth...
Me: "Peter! Awww that's good Freya, i was a little worried *hugging emoji* No misunderstandings here! You were two princesses from money-town (cultural joke), right? I know a really chill place though, if you are ready to hear it "
Her: "Haha no it isn't money town *laughing emoji* Sure i am haha"
Me: "*park name*, it should be checked out tomorrow in the nice weather "
Her: Haha, yeaaah, but it will have to be with my friend so

I haven't replied. What i am thinking is, i could go on a quick date with these girls like 45-50 minutes and build comfort and win over her friend and build rapport and since she says she likes my city, i can invite her to visit the city alone some other time later and we can meet up. Worth a shot or what do you think? Usually i'm very much against girls bringing friends on dates because it makes it social and not sexual. I only made this exception once before with a girl who was 15 years old. I'm thinking first date quickly with friend with this girl and then second date we meet alone and i pull her home? Or is it waste of time and not worth the risk of her disappearing after this platonic meet up?

 

[Velasco]

they are from elsewhere in the country and is visiting my city for the weekend.

No to the two dates idea. Not enough time/risky.
I say to go on the date with the 2 and then just be cool. What I have noticed on these types of dates where there is another friend present, is that as long as the friend thinks your cool (aka don't just pretend like she isn't there lol), she'll fuck off on her own eventually. I think there are some posters who have also had this experience. If she doesn't fuck off on her own, then I suggest you do what Chase talked about in the false cockblock thread:

What I have done a few times with overprotective friends of girls is get the girl I'm with very close (so she is hanging off me and obviously wants to be alone with me) then, in a very calm, placid, way, with a Buddha-like expression on my face, tell the concerned friend, "It's no problem. We can all head back together."

Each time I've done this the friend has thought about it a moment and said, "No, it's fine, you two go," then told the girl to text her when she gets there or double-checked with the girl to make sure she's fine.

The psychology of it seems to be that the friend looks at the situation, sees her friend very much wants to be alone with you, views you as a tranquil guy who's happy to bring her along as well, then realizes she'd be a third wheel chaperone trying to police her friend who just wants to be alone with this chill guy, and it causes her to decide that isn't how she wants to spend the rest of her night, and that there really probably isn't a need to.

Breaks her out of "I have to defend my friend!" mode, because you are telling her, "Yes, it's fine, come along, you can join us," and it is not what she expected (that you'd be trying to get rid of her).

Good luck

 

[Skjöldr]

I made up my mind to go on a date with her and now i'm just thinking about whether to do 2-dates or bang her on the first date and get the friend away. This will be good experience. Thinking about texting "Yes, will be good to have her there so you don't start tearing at my clothes suddenly Let's meet at so and so at so and so a'clock?" What do you think?

Will go for the first date bang

 

[Velasco]

that's how you do it. "whatever happens was part of the plan" mindset

 

[Skjöldr]

Messaged her "Yes good to have her with us so you don't start tearing at my shirt suddenly *park* tomorrow at 1 pm on three wheels?"

 

[Skjöldr]

Update:
Her: Three wheels? Haha
Me: Yes with your girlfriend silly
Her: Ohhh like that haha

??? Nothing definite

 

[Skjöldr]

Her: "I think we have made other plans would have been easier if we were here for longer"
Should i push harder for it or should i tell her "Ah i see, you should visit some other time again and we can meet up!" Or something along those lines? The danger here is that like @Chase says about A) taking steps back in the seduction process is lethal and B) She will start thinking about why nothing happened and conclude it was meant to not happen or whatever?

 

[Skjöldr]

Maybe ask if i can call her up?

 

[Velasco]

don't ask. just call her. vibe -> spike -> find out what her other plan is? -> agree that sounds cool -> suggest that she and you do something after her plans. i think the reason for this change of plans is because of the friend not feeling the park date. so leave her out of it this time.

 

[Skjöldr]

Ya she's not picking it up idk how to proceed.

 

[Skjöldr]

She's like declining it so it goes on voicemail prematurely

 

[Skjöldr]

Voice note?

 

[Velasco]

Wait for her texts to tell you why she cant talk atm. If she doesnt, then shes not invested enough.

 

[Velasco]

I call without asking. If the girl is interested, she'll tell me why she cant talk right now.

 

[Skjöldr]

Its 12.12 AM im just gonna go to bed. She's probably not coming out this time around. So its down to plan b which doesnt need to be rushed so hard. I realize i did alot of attraction on her not much rapport,comfort,investment. Its dying down quick worthy lesson

 

[Skjöldr]

But that attitude... "If she doesnt X then she's not interested and/or invested" can be trippy. I cant really expect her to be super into me just off a few minutes of daygame intereaction, no? I had that attitude starting out, it was told to me by the natural game gurus, im not too sure im buying it. I know on the other end of the spectrum you have the illusion of action which is also bad. There must be something i can do here, but i already have so much negative compliance from her saying she wants to bring her friend to saying she made other plans 30 minutes later to not picking up my phone calls 30 minutes later. There must be some last ditch stuff i can do

 

[Velasco]

There must be some last ditch stuff i can do

For sure give it another try. This is how you learn

 

[Skjöldr]

This comes to mind

Red addressing objection: Listen i thought you were really cool when i met you, but if you not willing to get to know me is ok, maybe when i meet you i felt you were cool and thought we would get along and you were someone worth getting to know, but maybe i was wrong, i am not the type to crash into parties when i am not invited.

 

[Velasco]

it is best to ask him how well that strategy has worked out for him. and then decide if its worth it to you.

@Skills

 

[Skjöldr]

I should not text anymore tonight?