Hello. I love you! Why don't you tell me your name?

[Regal Tiger]

First time ever making a journal, but thought it could be fun. This first post will be a little bit of backstory for anyone interested, the second post will be the actual journaling part.

For anyone following my story you'll know that I've had a rough go of it lately. I worked really hard honing my online dating abilities and knowledge and got pretty damn good at it. Learning online dating was where I started and what eventually lead to a love of a photography.

Well, now I'm unable to do online game. At least for now while I'm stuck in Missouri (technically could, legally, but just don't wanna risk it. Might get back into it later on down the road when/if I get back to TN).

I've dabbled in day game and still consider myself a little bit of a beginner at it, but where I started to see some good time results was during events, like dancing events. Hell, when I changed my walk I set up 3 different dates in a single event! Then I continued on to set up a few more dates after that from a different dancing event.


Well, suffice to say that I can't do that here either. The only places to dance are filled with old folk. Bless their hearts, gained a lot of mom's from dancing and a lot of fun is had, but only a single woman came from dancing here in a few years (though when I was newer at both game and dancing there were other opportunities that I failed to capitalize on).


Anywhoo, now I'm doing straight up cold approach. Found out on Monday that I'm probably stuck here in this dreary college town of mine for over another month. This college town doesn't have much going on during the summer because the population gets cut down by too damn much. When colleges start picking up again there will be more to do, but for now, without online game or events to go to, I'm doing old fashioned, hard-nosed cold approach. And there's not a lot of women to do it on.


I don't know why, but until about an hour ago I forgot a very important lesson: fun. It's the thing that I thrive on, it's my element and yet, I forgot all about it. This past week hasn't been fun at all.

With events and to a lesser extent, hired guns, they're kinda forced into the hook point so I can just dive into conversation and it's always worked for me. I have some conversational hacks that I use to help me get started in the beginning and it's always fun, and it always leads somewhere new because it's not a routine but more of a way to jump past small talk.

But I haven't used a single one of them.

In cold approach I've been trying to take the same indirect approach into day game (but without the fun). It's failing very hard. And now I remember why I always preferred something more direct; it's more fun for me. It also short circuits the conversation straight into the hook point or into no where at all.

I've put in quite a bit of time in this crappy town and there are a few approachable women here and there. Only seen a few stunners (and it's always across the damn room where I can't get to them in time! Either they run out the shopping door or they pull a Houdini and I have no idea where they go lol). The ones that are approachable I've been failing pretty hard with. It feels awkward for me and without a doubt the women feel it too.

It's because it's not been fun for me, I've not been making it fun. It's what I thrive on. I'm a hedonist that's been trying to do something without making it fun! #Fail


Think I'll go back to my more fun, and more direct style and see what happens. Especially now that I can bring back my conversational hacks that I came up with from doing Lyft I should do a lot better than when I first, first tried day game. Excluding, of course, the moments where I can sincerely do something fun with an indirect/situational approach.



Fun story: my first approach after finding out I'll be here a while I met a stripper lol. In the grocery store of all places! Sadly she wanted me to come into the club and pay for lap dances... I didn't have the heart to tell her that I'm on probation and can't go, but oh well, I got a free entry pass to give away

 

[Regal Tiger]

Copying and pasting this stuff straight from my phone's notes:

Fundamentals I'm working on:

1. Eye Contact
This is good for now when I'm having fun, but I wanna ramp it up when possible (think adding intent behind my eyes). Right now I have good eye contact, but far from amazing. It's just your everyday warm eye contact. I want sexy eye contact.

2. Voice
Great until I have to raise my voice which means it needs more power behind it. Right now, just need to add more stomach to it. Sadly I'm unable to practice it because the day after adding this to my notes and noticing what was going on I got some kind of congestion or something. My voice is just now starting to return to me, but I still have this weird cough that won't go away...

3. Touch
Escalating touch is great, and even the 'small' touches are good for now. Where I wanna ramp it up is on dates. I'm comfortable with it, but like eye contact I just want to take it to the next level.

4. Conversation
Been forgetting my formula for asking women out, which is based on seeding the date. With my awkward indirect approaches I haven't been getting into the hook point very reliably. And then I forget to seed the date. One I start making things fun again I need to come back to this because it works.



Some Openers:
When able: asking people how they are. They give the normal auto-pilot response and then the fun begins: what!? Just good, why not fantabulous? Why not amazing? What's going on in your life?
--> it's usually easy to build the conversation from there

I've never done this, but I think it'd be hilarious, which means that I have to do it soon:
Hello. I love you! Why don't you tell me your name?

*stolen from James Marshall*
Hey, sorry I'm late blablabla

*stolen from Sasha Daygame*
I'm not here to rob you (if she seems startled) I just blablablabla

Hey, I'm blank and I'm here to shamelessly flirt with you


One conversational safety net:
What do you do? Answer
Do you like it? Answer
(most people say yes out of auto-pilot reflex, if they say they hate it then it's easy to go into dreams from there)
If yes: what's your favorite/least favorite part about it?

This and the how are you stuff are what I came up with while driving for Lyft. They always did well with leading into a conversation for me there and it helped make things fun for me while getting the other person to open up. Should do the same with women? I dunno, but I guess I'll find out

 

[Regal Tiger]

In Dollar General today when out the corner of my eye I spotted a pretty little thing approaching me. Turns out it was my friends' old neighbor, nice!

I think she had a soft spot for me so I approach. She stops me and immediately puts her hand on me trying to figure out where we know each other from. We chit chat a little bit, I tease her about breaking the packaging on the merchandise on the shelves.

Lots of touching, both her and me back and forth in this little 2-3 minute conversation. Ask her what she has going on for the rest of the weekend "nothing, I don't work tomorrow. But what about you and *friends names here*?"
"They ran off to Arkansas for a family wedding leaving me all alone"
"Oh no!"
"I know, how dare they . You like smoothies?"
"Yes"
"Let's get one tomorrow"
"Yes! Let me..."

She reached for her phone but I guess she didn't have it on her since she was working. I just have her put her number in my phone as a bunch of people start filling the isle, including another worker. Hands back my phone gives me another touch on the arm and a smile and back to work she goes.


Then there was a girl at a different grocery store where I was more direct and it was more fun. She wasn't interested though. Oh well, at least it's more fun for me


Anywhoo, guess my cold approach still has yet to pan out but my lukewarm approach is 1/1 for scheduling dates. I'll set up logistics with her tomorrow since we were rushed today.


Damn voice is still fucked up though and I don't know why. It was a ton better when I left....

 

[Regal Tiger]

Neighbor girly flaked on me. Replied with the classic "Bummer :/" text that I stole from Chase. May try again in a few days may just move on. Flakes tend to kill my interest levels unless they actively try to reschedule themselves but I'm so bored here....

Between the allergies and the fact that I have to drive out to a literal 3-5 different stores just to make 2-3 approaches makes me wonder if the whole state of Missouri disagrees with me lol

 

[Tony D]

I always killed it in small towns. I find the girls there are bored and starving for a mysterious guy with game. They also never, ever get approached in the day, and especially not with skill. Though they're terrible places to practice if you're new. You might give yourself a bad rep if you're too forward and have no follow up.

Learning is way easier in a city, but harder to hook and close. People have a lot more going on it seems.

 

[Regal Tiger]

I always killed it in small towns. I find the girls there are bored and starving for a mysterious guy with game. They also never, ever get approached in the day, and especially not with skill. Though they're terrible places to practice if you're new. You might give yourself a bad rep if you're too forward and have no follow up.

Learning is way easier in a city, but harder to hook and close. People have a lot more going on it seems.

It’s about 160K people, so not sure if it qualifies as a big town or a small city. Definitely agree with the bad place to learn

As far as daygame is concerned, I’m still pretty much a beginner, any tips?

 

[Tony D]

I have a whole series on daygame coming out on GirlsChase this week. Stay tuned.

 

[Regal Tiger]

I have a whole series on daygame coming out on GirlsChase this week. Stay tuned.

Awesomesauce! Looking forward to it, thanks!

 

[Fuck This]

160,000 is plenty big. I got laid my first week in a town of 25,000 in college during summer session, and I wasn't old enough to go to the bars. MTA: By my calculation there are just under 20,000 women age 20-29 according to census figures I found for a college town in MO with a population of 160,000 or so.

Evaluate your Social Circle. Classmates, Hobbies, work colleagues, favorite places to hang out. Develop the Social circles within the Townies too. Check outActive 20-30. Hell I 'll bet you have 300 clubs to choose from at the university....

Outdoor Adventures. Every university has a center that does trips rafting or hiking or kayaking or climbing. DO NOT miss out on these. It is the cheapest adventure you will ever have!
chicks you meet at the climbing wall are usually pretty hot....

Develop your physical fitness routine so you sweat 5 days out of 7 for an hour doing 3 different types of exercise. Does wonders for your head.

Find daytime Crowd events. BBQ's, free music in the park, wine and beer tasting events, fairs, concerts, clubs. Use facebook events to find them.

Get a job in retail where you greet a number of people daily. My best one was at the Student Union at the Information desk. I became "The guy who had the answers or knew who did". I got to know everyone who worked the different offices and retail establishments there. I knew what events were being hosted there. The dress code was professional so I looked better than most of the other students...you get the picture.

 

[Regal Tiger]

160,000 is plenty big. I got laid my first week in a town of 25,000 in college during summer session, and I wasn't old enough to go to the bars. MTA: By my calculation there are just under 20,000 women age 20-29 according to census figures I found for a college town in MO with a population of 160,000 or so.

Evaluate your Social Circle. Classmates, Hobbies, work colleagues, favorite places to hang out. Develop the Social circles within the Townies too. Check outActive 20-30. Hell I 'll bet you have 300 clubs to choose from at the university....

I was not awarevof a site like that, thanks! I’ll check it out.

Edit: Nothing in the list for my area but I’ll check out college stuffs for stuff to do as a backup. Thanks for the ideas, they still give me leads for stuff

Outdoor Adventures. Every university has a center that does trips rafting or hiking or kayaking or climbing. DO NOT miss out on these. It is the cheapest adventure you will ever have!
chicks you meet at the climbing wall are usually pretty hot....

Also not aware, though I’m not in college I’m assuming I can still check it out. Will do

Develop your physical fitness routine so you sweat 5 days out of 7 for an hour doing 3 different types of exercise. Does wonders for your head.

Long story short; after I start getting an income again I plan to

Find daytime Crowd events. BBQ's, free music in the park, wine and beer tasting events, fairs, concerts, clubs. Use facebook events to find them.

Been trying to look stuff up but things seem rather inconsistent. Example; I didn’t even know the fair was here despite looking stuff up

Get a job in retail where you greet a number of people daily. My best one was at the Student Union at the Information desk. I became "The guy who had the answers or knew who did". I got to know everyone who worked the different offices and retail establishments there. I knew what events were being hosted there. The dress code was professional so I looked better than most of the other students...you get the picture.

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Start training for a sales job tomorrow. Was going to wait until after to look up networking events and kinda go from there. As for conventional jobs that would allow me to work with people; I can’t pass a background check

But you do have some good ideas, just need a slight tweak in conversation to get the info

Thanks for the info!



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Side note; date was fun but there were some glaring dissimilarity issues. Couldn’t get around them. Still had fun but no lovings. Onto the next one

 

[Regal Tiger]

Been a while. Honestly, kept trying to go out and not seeing anybody. Would drive from place to place and see maybe 1 girl.

So I decided to actually go to the college and walk around. Works a lot better.

But, I'm an online gamer not a daygamer. So I've been getting super frustrated because I know that I could have been balls deep many'a times already if I had access to anything online game... can't even have fucking social media =.=

Today I had a sense of dread about going back to the college. Not fear, because I've become de-sensitized to opening women to the point where I struggle sometimes with bringing back in a little bit of genuine emotion.

Anywhoo, glad I went. This could be the turning point. Yesterday I approached around 10-11 girls or so and nothing stuck. Had one girl offer her number immediately after opening but I feel like she was trying to get me into the beekeepers club...

All the others just never went anywhere. Bummer.

Today was a different story though. First two approaches ended in numbers and loose plans to set up the date (knee-jerk reaction is to ask women when they're free right then and there but it's not panning out so I'm trying to not do this anymore and instead just go with lostnumber's style of talking about sometime and then setting it up through text. We'll see if that makes a difference).


First approach
I'm thirsty, went to one of the places to buy a water. Girl walks up behind me and her phone makes a police siren like noise. Tease her about scaring the shit out of me and it just went into a normal conversation. Nothing really too report, everything just kinda flowed and we talked for a little while. Walked her part way to class. Ended with my normal close style:
Like smoothies? Ever been to blank? Great you know how amazing they are, we need to get one sometime. Put your name and number in and we'll set it up later.


Second approach
Waiting on one of the busses that go around campus. See a girl on the phone waiting on the 'green line' while I'm waiting on the 'red line'. So far away and I just sat down, oh well.

Red line comes up and she walks over to wait on people getting off. Sweet, she's getting on my bus! Hangs up the phone and I open with a simple "Intense conversation?"

Start talking and trying to get her to open up a bit but she seems into me but not very forthcoming. Seems a little nervous, yet full of energy and bubbly if that makes sense?
So I figured I would have to do most of the talking since we have maybe 3-4 minutes before we get off. Though I do manage to tease a little bit about her having to wake up at balls early in the morning.

She did mention having a four hour window between classes on Tuesdays (today). In hindsight, I should have confirmed that it was earlier in the day (it was like 5:30 at this point so I just assumed she meant earlier, but ya never know so I should have gone ahead and confirmed just in case).

Anywhoo, I have to do the talking to make her more comfortable I figure. So when she turns the question of what do you like to do on me I mention ballroom dancing. No bite (almost always I get women wanting to learn ). So then I talk about photography.

At this point I remember one of Chase's articles about how a recent breakup can make an attractive man super attainable yet still remain attractive. I make the choice to go this route and assume that she's super into me but nervous and that I'm unattainable. I think this was the right move, but the proof is in the pussy as Hector says so maybe I'll find out later.

So I talk about how I like to take pictures of nature and ex-girlfriends. Then talked about the most recent one where I took pictures of her ass and I still remember the face she made when I showed her the pictures. How excited and amazed she was. She was great but sadly she's in Nashville.
"What's she doing in Nashville?"
Excellent

I ended up moving back here and blablabla. She seemed to ease up a bit more after that and then we got to our stop.

Did the normal smoothie close but the knee-jerk reaction of when are you free? We'll get one sometime came out again, need to stop doing that since it's not working. Or instead ask for her schedule, dunno... need to test it.

We swap numbers and I tell her the same thing that I tell any woman that I number close (stole this straight from Ricardus and I love it): I'll text you something hilarious later so you know it's me.

The text: something hilarious ;P


Lol I fell in love with that as soon as I read it.


Now we'll go with the text sequence that Chase talks about in his bonus with the One Date Course and we'll see what happens.


But fuck, even if they don't pan out at least I have some positive experiences today. I felt real dread about forcing myself back out there today. Like, going to a job that you absolutely hate with all of your soul dread.


Luckily there are two colleges that are big enough to pick up on. There are a few others that I'll hit up once a month or so, but with these two I'll try to use to get out 4 times a week for the first few weeks and mix up the times/dates for each of them and alternate between them for the most part. So we'll see what happens.

 

[Mr.Rob]

Game on. I gotta hit up the university in my town this fall when it cools off a bit. Good reminder.

 

[Regal Tiger]

Lol it’s legit the only place to even see a halfway approachable woman most of the time here.

One thing to look out for is that I’ll occasionally get asked if I’m a student and I just say that I’m auditing a few classes cuz I have a good relationship with a few professors.

 

[Regal Tiger]

Rained today... shockingly it didn't rain during the time I planned to go out today but I never got ready and forgot to look outside until it was too late. Lol oops, my bad.


Out of the 3 numbers I've gotten, 2 ignored me and 1 texted back she had a boyfriend. Looks like I'm back to ground zero... irksome. I don't like being a beginner again =.=

If it weren't so god-damned ironic I'd be pissed lol


Oh well, reading articles is a nice day to let the ole ego bounce back, haven't had a day of doing nothing in a while


EDIT: reading over Chase's guide about what to do when shit's just not working out. I realize why I miss Nashville, I had literally just found my niche. And that niche is dead here. But not elsewhere... I really need to get elsewhere arghhghhghhghghgh

I'd go swing dancing and walk out with 2-3 dates scheduled. Not numbers, but actual dates scheduled (but with numbers as well lol). The problem? I was poor as fuck and couldn't do it very often haha. I miss that niche...

I'd love to go to Portland Oregon, I've researched it a bit and not only does the place seem like it would suit me like butter on warm bread but it has an active swing dance community (just by a quick glance). A nearby city in Missouri, Kansas City seems like it has a better swing dance community than here (it's dead here, too much infighting between everyone and now it's pretty much dead. It was already dying when I first learned). Plus, KC is like 4x the size of Springfield.

I really hope I get an exception and can move to Portland... KC could be nice too...

 

[Hue]

I realize why I miss Nashville, I had literally just found my niche. And that niche is dead here. But not elsewhere... I really need to get elsewhere arghhghhghhghghgh

Yo Regal. This reminded me immediately of how I felt after leaving my old school in my non PUA days and not having the footing in the social scene I was in. I came back to my original city and while I had A social scene, I didn't have the same reputation or the confidence I had with some of these social circles. It took a lot of me going out alone, talking to strangers, leaving the group I came with, and exploiting social proof to get to the point I am now, and now nearly everywhere I go I see people I know. It helps tremendously - but that's just my case.

You can go back to your old niche to jumpstart the engine a bit, but to create success in your new environment it's important to leverage your strengths to rebuild anew.


Here's two posts by Pretty Decent that I found helpful on:

Getting Back Into Game

and

Daygame Tricks, Tips, Insights, and Lessons (for your potential niche(s)).

I'd love to go to Portland Oregon, I've researched it a bit and not only does the place seem like it would suit me like butter on warm bread but it has an active swing dance community (just by a quick glance). A nearby city in Missouri, Kansas City seems like it has a better swing dance community than here (it's dead here, too much infighting between everyone and now it's pretty much dead. It was already dying when I first learned). Plus, KC is like 4x the size of Springfield.

I really hope I get an exception and can move to Portland... KC could be nice too...

Or, get the fuck out and do the exact same thing there! The world's your oyster brobeans.

Hue

 

[Regal Tiger]

Yo Regal. This reminded me immediately of how I felt after leaving my old school in my non PUA days and not having the footing in the social scene I was in. I came back to my original city and while I had A social scene, I didn't have the same reputation or the confidence I had with some of these social circles. It took a lot of me going out alone, talking to strangers, leaving the group I came with, and exploiting social proof to get to the point I am now, and now nearly everywhere I go I see people I know. It helps tremendously - but that's just my case.

You can go back to your old niche to jumpstart the engine a bit, but to create success in your new environment it's important to leverage your strengths to rebuild anew.


Here's two posts by Pretty Decent that I found helpful on:

Getting Back Into Game

and

Daygame Tricks, Tips, Insights, and Lessons (for your potential niche(s)).

Sweetness! Thanks for those recommendations Hue! I'll look at them when I get through with Chase's post (it's a monster and I keep kinda walking away from it to let it digest and coming back lol).

As for the niche, it's the swing dance community. For some reason those girls things are just massively easier with. It's different than the latin dance community that Chase has mentioned, the environments, the girls and the communities as a whole are as different as the dances (at least in Nashville, my only real experience with both communities since there isn't one here).

Again; only speaking from my experiences in Nashville TN and Springfield MO:
But yea, swing dancing and latin dancing are both great for meeting women. They've both got a younger crowd (whereas here is ballroom only, which is fun but only for the old folks and the occasional younger gal [who I also hit it off with every time, just too rare to rely on]). The ballroom younger gals and the swing dancing gals seem a bit more conservative (if that's the right word?) and just something about them... whereas the latin girls are more party girls. Swing/ballroom dances rarely go past 11 whereas the latin dances don't really get going until 11.

Latin seems more like a club environment, lots of alcohol and what have ya. The swing dance crowd however it's just different, almost like the after-church crowd? More sexy clothes in latin (by far) whereas there are more dresses and conservatively dressed women in swing dance. They also have less ADD and just seem sweeter to me.

Anywhoo, would need more experiences in more places to really say for sure. But those are my limited impressions. Things are just easier for me in swing/ballroom areas. Could be that I'm a much better swing/ballroom dancer than latin dancer but everything just seems different. I also like one better but I can't honestly say if that's because of the women, my experiences or because of which one I started with? Though I can say that I don't like the Latin environments that feel too much like clubs to me. Night game guys may get a major kick out of them though.

Or, get the fuck out and do the exact same thing there! The world's your oyster brobeans.

Hue

Yea... being on probation I might not be able to get to Portland without immediate family there, sadly... :/

I suppose anything's technically possible, and something I'm hoping for. Moving to KC is definitely do-able though so I'll do that if Portland's a no-go.

I'm actively trying to build a little bit of a social circle(s), if nothing else just for something fun to do. Just got a consistent job (details about to come in soon) through my cousin. So that'll shake thing's up a bit and I can get into some hobbies, like back into rock-climbing/martial arts and what have ya. Though I'll be stuck here for a year, better than the rate I'm going. So we'll see!

Seeing this place as a pure daygame practice ground definitely helps ease the dread of not wanting to go out and give my ego a beating though

So in a year, ideally I'd have a new daygame skill-set along with the hybrid swing dance/social circle/event/whatever game. And when I get off of probation I'm going on a fucking tear with online dating just out of spite towards Uncle Same. And getting back on top of Instagram game...

Jesus I can't wait to give Uncle Sam the middle finger. Fuckin tool...

 

[Hue]

The ballroom younger gals and the swing dancing gals seem a bit more conservative (if that's the right word?)

I have some experience with swing dancing (one of which got me a quite the enjoyable lay despite me being a terrible swing dancer outside of rhythm lol. I can't say for sure but I think the word you're looking for is traditional. The very basis of swing dance is a lead and a follow, which historically speaking was a man and a woman (or in modern day terms and how I personally see it, a masculine entity and a feminine entity - regardless of sex/gender). There are plenty of woman leads, sure, but that is how the dance was created I believe. The origins of the dance are very congruent with many of the GC / seduction community outlooks on human psychology. It takes a skilled follow to balance and blend with a skilled lead, just as it takes an experienced woman to know how to subtly intrigue and properly allow a man to spot and jump through windows of seduction.

Yea... being on probation I might not be able to get to Portland without immediate family there, sadly... :/

Fuck, my bad.

I suppose anything's technically possible, and something I'm hoping for. Moving to KC is definitely do-able though so I'll do that if Portland's a no-go.

Well sure, at least there are some options if you're current situation is functionally limiting you.

Seeing this place as a pure daygame practice ground definitely helps ease the dread of not wanting to go out and give my ego a beating though

So in a year, ideally I'd have a new daygame skill-set along with the hybrid swing dance/social circle/event/whatever game.

See, the more I think about it, the more I'm starting to see daygame as the most practical, long-term option. A lot of the skills you get from day game cold approach you can apply to most other areas - even night game in some respects (such as opening/preopening and overarching necessities / skills in gaming women like exuding traits, moving, etc). In addition, many of these higher energy or perhaps chaotic scenes are typically found in a younger population, and slowly lose abundance as you get older (not to say you CAN'T hit clubs when you're 40, but it is quite unorthodox even in this community).

Day game on the other hand gives you a social confidence that you can pull out of your ass almost anywhere and come up with some opener no matter the environment. Of course, there are pit falls - like a 100% day game guy might not know how to properly deal with wild cards in a club, or even be aware of them for that matter. Depending on the context, isolated technical skill may not be enough because of contextual necessities in a given environment.

And then there's the current cultural attack on masculinity - I just recently read a campus police report that was extremely vague in description that could have been some weirdo creep or could have been an inexperienced PUA that was confronted by a bypasser. Which I don't know, but it seemed very odd.

Overall though, I think it's the best long term investment going into adulthood and fits the appropriation of how "grown up's are supposed to meet" - and one that has THE LARGEST abundance (like in a city or university setting) compared to all others.. now that I've done some thinking on it.

Mini rant over lol.


Once I get my 3rd coaching session with Hector maybe you and I should have some friendly competition, gaming on a college campus (; (and you too Rob!)

 

[Regal Tiger]

I have some experience with swing dancing (one of which got me a quite the enjoyable lay despite me being a terrible swing dancer outside of rhythm lol. I can't say for sure but I think the word you're looking for is traditional. The very basis of swing dance is a lead and a follow, which historically speaking was a man and a woman (or in modern day terms and how I personally see it, a masculine entity and a feminine entity - regardless of sex/gender). There are plenty of woman leads, sure, but that is how the dance was created I believe. The origins of the dance are very congruent with many of the GC / seduction community outlooks on human psychology. It takes a skilled follow to balance and blend with a skilled lead, just as it takes an experienced woman to know how to subtly intrigue and properly allow a man to spot and jump through windows of seduction.

I bet you're right, just reading that.

Fuck, my bad.

Lol all good, there's a lot more important things to focus on other than that sour oyster. I never imagined everything that I would lose from losing my case... can't go to parks anymore, which was a huge thing for me. Probably won't be able to follow through with Flag Theory either since a lot of countries will turn me away from even visiting...

A very sour oyster indeed...

Well sure, at least there are some options if you're current situation is functionally limiting you.

Indeed. Not the ideal option, but still something. Brings me some comfort.

See, the more I think about it, the more I'm starting to see daygame as the most practical, long-term option. A lot of the skills you get from day game cold approach you can apply to most other areas - even night game in some respects (such as opening/preopening and overarching necessities / skills in gaming women like exuding traits, moving, etc). In addition, many of these higher energy or perhaps chaotic scenes are typically found in a younger population, and slowly lose abundance as you get older (not to say you CAN'T hit clubs when you're 40, but it is quite unorthodox even in this community).

I agree a little bit, but there are definitely differences from what I can tell. Though I can't speak on behalf of night game since I've not gotten into it much, I can speak on behalf of online game *case in point, I'm amazing at online game but struggling with daygame). Online game there is no crossover with cold approach day game, which is part of the reason that I sometimes get the feeling that online game is looked down on here in the GC community.

There might be some crossover if you go indirect, but I don't for the most part. Sometimes I'll do Chase's indirect direct if there's something that pops into my head but otherwise I just go balls a blazin.

Social circle there's little crossover as well, at least on the game side. There's fundamentals and that stuff that crossovers a lot with basically everything. I find social circle to be the most fun, it practically forces conversations and I don't even have to have an opener. I just start talking and going into it lol.

Though a recent article by Chase (I think it was Chase) that talked about how he wouldn't date a girl who used online dating or partied. It does change women, if they stick to it, which the overwhelming majority doesn't.

The vast majority of women will make a profile for a week or two, possibly a month and then get overwhelmed and leave. Then, a year or so later they'll forget all about the creepy men on there and will get back on it thinking this time will be different. Cycle repeats.

The same thing that happens in the Meetup Groups as Chase talked about, the hot women don't stick around for very long and the ones that do are definitely broken (or in the Meetup groups a little weird).

Most women though, they use online dating for a little while and then decide it's not for them and leave. Some never to return.

But definitely stay away from the online dating veterans, they're fucked in the head.


I've also noticed the same turnover in the dancing communities. The newer girls are much, much easier.

This very thing used to frustrate me to no end in the beginning. Because I would literally go just to dance, not to meet women. And most of the women were all new and couldn't do anything so I'd end up teaching them and then never see them again. Lol I used to get so mad.

Then it dawned on me that this should be a pickup zone and go to the older ballroom crowd to actually dance. All problems solved after that and everything got a lot more fun, especially since I started putting in real work on my fundamentals: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=16821

The above happened a few times before cash flow hurt me and I started to really like the girl in that lay report.

Day game on the other hand gives you a social confidence that you can pull out of your ass almost anywhere and come up with some opener no matter the environment. Of course, there are pit falls - like a 100% day game guy might not know how to properly deal with wild cards in a club, or even be aware of them for that matter. Depending on the context, isolated technical skill may not be enough because of contextual necessities in a given environment.

Completely agree!

And then there's the current cultural attack on masculinity - I just recently read a campus police report that was extremely vague in description that could have been some weirdo creep or could have been an inexperienced PUA that was confronted by a bypasser. Which I don't know, but it seemed very odd.

Yea... that's something that really worries me, more so with my personal circumstances... all the more reason why I'd like to get to a bigger place so I don't have to use the colleges. I can honestly say that I was just there because of 'coffee' or 'smoothies' or 'was walking down the street to my car' or what the fuck ever. If somebody confronts me on a college campus (though I've been received well by all but one girl) then I don't see it going too well for me.

Though now I do have an excuse, I like the smoothies there on the campus and because I flirt with the workers there I get them for free, so long as I don't show up too often
Lol one of them is an older black lady who keeps pestering the girl I want to go out with me. It's hilarious. Plus free smoothies! XD

Overall though, I think it's the best long term investment going into adulthood and fits the appropriation of how "grown up's are supposed to meet" - and one that has THE LARGEST abundance (like in a city or university setting) compared to all others.. now that I've done some thinking on it.

Mini rant over lol.

I'd say you're nearly spot on there, I'd add in social circle but otherwise completely agree.

Once I get my 3rd coaching session with Hector maybe you and I should have some friendly competition, gaming on a college campus (; (and you too Rob!)

Depends on how the next few weeks go, I might not even be able to participate depending on this job or not. But otherwise I don't mind, though you're picking on a daygame noob

 

[Regal Tiger]

Just had an approach that I'm going to be particularly fond of for a long time to come, even if it didn't land me a date.

Went to a donut shop nearby cuz... why not? Feel sad, eat a donut. Makes sense lol.

Anyway, a girl working there and we easily fall into conversation so I decide to go for it. Too busy. She says she believes in fate and that if I come back another time then she can't say no.

Fuck that.

Walk out with my donut and literally turn right back around and go in.

"I forgot something. Need a drink. Also this is the second time I've been here and..."

Lol no go but now the fun part that I love, if anyone has heard of mathemagics I used mathemagics to try and pick up a girl. It's basically just a bunch of arithmetic tricks to shorthand some math in your head, and I've gotten pretty good at making some calculations in my head.

Anyways, I ask her "How many hours a week do you work? Say, 80?"
"yes"

"Perfect!" *pauses for a moment to think it through* "That means you have roughly 15-20 hours left in the week to hang out with me"

"Lol how do ya figure?"

"Simple math, my dear. 80 hours a week of work, and then you seem like the type that sleeps about 6 hours a night so there's an additional 42 hours a week. That's 122 hours a week so far. Then you have to eat, get ready and spend time with bathroom shenanigans and travel for work. I'm guessing high and saying 28 hours a week there. That leaves 18 hours left, so around 15-20 hours a week left to hang out with this handsome stranger you met at work" *wink*

All without missing a beat, rattled that math shit off in a few seconds. I'm very good at being a nerd lol.

Sadly all she said was to come back another time but not tonight.

No date, but the math part was fun haha

 

[Hue]

I'd say you're nearly spot on there, I'd add in social circle but otherwise completely agree.

Right, and social circle is typically what average joes settle down with, as it's overall the most practical from a traditional viewpoint.

Depends on how the next few weeks go, I might not even be able to participate depending on this job or not. But otherwise I don't mind, though you're picking on a daygame noob

Overall that makes two of us! I'm yet to do a successful street approach and always convince myself it's too weird. Will have to read some of Tony's stuff more before the grindstone comes out.