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How to be Arrogant and Adopt Other Helpful Mindsets?

Bboy100

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So when I first started this school year, I had this sense of arrogance. I literally believed that all women wanted my dick and that every other guy is a pussy and has no idea wtf he's doing with women. So of course, every women who finally met a stud like me would want my dick in less then 2 hours. After a few outings and a few rejections, this belief changed. I started to lose my arrogance, and started to think and therefore behave in less attractive ways (still more attractive than most guys...but not as attractive as I was before).

I thought back and realized that this cockiness came from the previous summer. The only women I was meeting were Tinder dates. This means that these are women who are necessarily at least curious if not super into me already. So with pretty much all of them, I ALWAYS got all the way up to the point of LMR and in some cases, I got laid. This created an absurd level of cockiness and arrogance. This is because I had the belief that I was successful with women, and it was supported by the outside world.

Then came the start of the school year. I went to a couple parties, cocky af. And women loved me. But still...I didn't pull any girls home. Mainly because of logistical issue and also because my game in parties is not as tight as my game in one on one situations. To add insult to injury, even though 90% of the girls seemed into me, there were always one or two of them who rejected me. Then I went on a couple of first dates with girls who I really liked. And I ran into that same LMR. But unlike before, it was a lot more difficult to discard them. Partially because I liked them a lot more than anyone I met throughout the summer, and partially because I have a lot less dates now then I did back then (this is a result of going to school in a smaller city). So I started chasing hard. I started to feel weak...and ruminate about the "one special girl" all day. Before I knew it, all that arrogance I had built up was gone. Never to return. Consequently, the loss of this mindset affected all future dates. And so all of us sudden, here I am, feeling like I've gone backwards. Yes, my actually "technique" is better. But my fundamentals and vibe are probably worse.

This got me thinking...there are a lot of mindsets in seduction which are beneficial to have. Examples are:

-Assume Attraction
-Given the right circumstances, all women will have sex on a first date/first meeting.
- X insecurity that I have about myself doesn't affect my relationship life
- I'm the best option available to any women I interact with.
- There are other equally or more attractive women who want me (i.e. abundance).
...and so on. The list is endless.


But as outlined in my story above, it's difficult to believe them if they're unsupported by the feedback we get from the outside world. I'd like to discuss this with you guys. Is it possible to form and retain beliefs which are not well supported by our current experiences? If so, how do we do it?
 

Beast69

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Best advice I can give is to reference the 'fake it till you make it' phrase especially if being arrogant/cocky feels unnatural most of the time, but it's a bit easier for you and il explain. You mentioned you've had success with girls from tinder over the summer months, so you've actually gotten pussy. Think back to the day after sleeping with these women, how you felt being desired for, having an extra step in your walk, more confident. Embrace that feeling of cockiness. Use those previous triumphs and feelings to your advantage.

It's still important to act like the prize even when getting rejected. No matter what we do in this world we won't be able to sleep with EVERY girl we go up to and try to start a conversation with to seduce, no big deal, just shrug it off and walk around imagining every girl within 50 metres of you is lucky to be near you. Treat girls like they have to prove themselves to you (get them qualifying themselves to you), have a confident smirk, a cocky laugh etc. Whatever feels badass enough for you to rock until you know what feels best for you to utilise.

-B
 

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How to be arrogant? Base your logic on facts, use common sense and speak plain truth. You'll be surprised how many people will be offended and consider you arrogant.


"But as outlined in my story above, it's difficult to believe them if they're unsupported by the feedback we get from the outside world"
>>>> Divide your final goal into smaller and simpler steps. Repeat each step several times before you move forward...
 

Bboy100

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Divide your final goal into smaller and simpler steps. Repeat each step several times before you move forward...
I kind of understand. But can you give me an example of how this would work. Just as an example, let's say I want to adopt the mindset that "I'm the best option available to any women I interact with". How would I divide that up into smaller parts?
 

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Drck said:
How to be arrogant? Base your logic on facts, use common sense and speak plain truth. You'll be surprised how many people will be offended and consider you arrogant.


"But as outlined in my story above, it's difficult to believe them if they're unsupported by the feedback we get from the outside world"
>>>> Divide your final goal into smaller and simpler steps. Repeat each step several times before you move forward...

I partially agree with this, but this is the WRONG kind of arrogant to want to be. This is the kind of arrogant that used to get me into trouble all the time (and I know because I used be a bit of a robot in terms of personality when I was much younger. Sort of like Alan Turing in the Imitation Games). It's a thousand times better to be humble than it is to be arrogant to a fault.

Here's what Drck is describing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qu9ImFMLYxw
Alan Turing is arrogant, and because he openly and honestly speaks his mind at the WRONG times, it gets him into trouble.

I'm working on this right now, but I think being playfully cocky is the way to go. What I've learned is that you can use a cocky attitude to stir up playful banter with a girl, which should get you massive amounts of attraction.

EDIT: I think we have a similar issue here (or not a similar issue, but a similar solution to an issue. In some aspects, I think our situation with developing a strong mentality is related). Instead of being arrogant, I believe you should be cocky and bold. From what I've learned, arrogance is only attractive to girls because of the sheer confidence that emanates from that attitude. It's still not a good quality to have no matter how you look at it.

Check out my thread and see for yourself: https://boards.girlschase.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=13137

Also, Sheldon from the Big Bang Theory is an exaggerated example, but is another instance where brutal honesty and arrogance combined are negative characteristics.
 

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"I want to adopt the mindset that "I'm the best option available to any women I interact with". How would I divide that up into smaller parts?"

Couple points:

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* "I'm the best option available to any women I interact with"
>>>> Keep repeating it till you start believing it. The more you believe it, the more true it will become...

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* At the same time be reasonable. See, Mrs. Believe and Mr. Reason don't really like each other, they always want to fight. Mrs. Believe says: "I'm the best option available to any women I interact with", but Mr. Reason replies: "Are you really the best option? How and where are you better than the other guys, in which area? Why are you better?"... Just because you think or believe that it is true, the others may not perceive you that way, so always have something to back your believe with, otherwise you will be perceived as fake...

Beware of being fake. If you believe "I'm the best option available to any women I interact with" yet each woman you meet ends up with another guy, there is a big conflict between your believe and reality. Your believe becomes delusional. Eventually you may become delusional like Bernie, promising free stuff to everybody while all the bad rich people will pay for it. Right.

So you sort of have to outsmart your own mind. "I'm the best option available to any women I interact with" could be replaced with more realistic statement, for example: "I am really a great and attractive guy, and most women I interact with are happy to be with me". Now you removed the conflict, you are always a great and attractive guy no matter if you end up with that woman or not. Even if there are some women that chose not to be happy around you, the statement always remains valid... Mrs. Believe is happy, and Mr. Reality is happy too...

See how that statement works out for you in reality, if you see that most women are happy to be around, simply add more to it, for example: "I'm really attractive guy, and these hot women want to sleep with me"...

Keep experimenting with these statements, and once you see that women are giving you Windows and are interested, keep moving forward again with more statements, e.g. "I am attractive guy and she wants to sleep with me, all I have to do is enable it. I got to do XYZ to get her to my place"....

So always support the statements with some reality. Once your mind gets used to those statements and you have some success, you can go back to your original one: "I'm the best option available to any women I interact with". It's your original believe which is now true, and the reality is true as well...

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* Is arrogance really working out for you? Maybe you are/were just creating lots of reactions, but no results. Do things that vibe with your personality, don't try to pretend too hard that you are somebody else.

For example, if you are rather quiet and shy guy, don't pretend that you are loud and tough guy. Most people can see through it right away....

Arrogance: if you are knowledgable about some subject, it will allow you to more arrogant. A great example would be a lawyer - if he knows more than the other side, if he has more experience, if he has better connection - it's fairly easy for him to be arrogant versus guy who just started out of law school and has no idea what is he doing. So make sure you can backup your arrogance with some knowledge and experience at least in some area, don't just fake the arrogance...

IMO much better option than being arrogant is being genuine. Don't pretend that you know everything, nobody does. Don't pretend that you are the best, nobody is. Don't pretend to be the best seducer, the reality many times is that no matter how good you are, she may chose casual guy over you anyway... She doesn't know you and she doesn't know the other guy either, she just sees two different guys and she will chose the one that she likes better, the one that has qualities she is currently looking for... So keep your mind open, you can always learn new things...

Also know your Value - "I know XYZ well but have no clue about ABC. So I could be quite assertive about XYZ, but I'm keeping my mind open about ABC because other guys might be experts in ABC"... Add to it some assertiveness and common sense, use rational approach - and you won't need arrogance at all...
 

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* At the same time be reasonable. See, Mrs. Believe and Mr. Reason don't really like each other, they always want to fight. Mrs. Believe says: "I'm the best option available to any women I interact with", but Mr. Reason replies: "Are you really the best option? How and where are you better than the other guys, in which area? Why are you better?"... Just because you think or believe that it is true, the others may not perceive you that way, so always have something to back your believe with, otherwise you will be perceived as fake...

Beware of being fake. If you believe "I'm the best option available to any women I interact with" yet each woman you meet ends up with another guy, there is a big conflict between your believe and reality. Your believe becomes delusional. Eventually you may become delusional like Bernie, promising free stuff to everybody while all the bad rich people will pay for it. Right.

So you sort of have to outsmart your own mind. "I'm the best option available to any women I interact with" could be replaced with more realistic statement, for example: "I am really a great and attractive guy, and most women I interact with are happy to be with me". Now you removed the conflict, you are always a great and attractive guy no matter if you end up with that woman or not. Even if there are some women that chose not to be happy around you, the statement always remains valid... Mrs. Believe is happy, and Mr. Reality is happy too...

See how that statement works out for you in reality, if you see that most women are happy to be around, simply add more to it, for example: "I'm really attractive guy, and these hot women want to sleep with me"...

Keep experimenting with these statements, and once you see that women are giving you Windows and are interested, keep moving forward again with more statements, e.g. "I am attractive guy and she wants to sleep with me, all I have to do is enable it. I got to do XYZ to get her to my place"....

So always support the statements with some reality. Once your mind gets used to those statements and you have some success, you can go back to your original one: "I'm the best option available to any women I interact with". It's your original believe which is now true, and the reality is true as well...
Dude, this was a sick post! Thank you! That makes a lot of sense. I'll start implementing this advice immediately.

* Is arrogance really working out for you?
Yes. Over the summer, pretty much every girl I met was initially attracted to me. The only reason I lost a lot of them is due to a failed escalations and bad logistics. Whereas now, I often go on dates where I can't even get the girl attracted to me.

For example, if you are rather quiet and shy guy, don't pretend that you are loud and tough guy. Most people can see through it right away....

Arrogance: if you are knowledgable about some subject, it will allow you to more arrogant. A great example would be a lawyer - if he knows more than the other side, if he has more experience, if he has better connection - it's fairly easy for him to be arrogant versus guy who just started out of law school and has no idea what is he doing. So make sure you can backup your arrogance with some knowledge and experience at least in some area, don't just fake the arrogance...

IMO much better option than being arrogant is being genuine. Don't pretend that you know everything, nobody does. Don't pretend that you are the best, nobody is. Don't pretend to be the best seducer, the reality many times is that no matter how good you are, she may chose casual guy over you anyway... She doesn't know you and she doesn't know the other guy either, she just sees two different guys and she will chose the one that she likes better, the one that has qualities she is currently looking for... So keep your mind open, you can always learn new things...
Well, thats' the interesting thing. I literally had a shift in personality over the summer. Then I shifted back to the way I was before. I wasn't ever faking anything. So I was being absolutely genuine. I developed a little bit of cockiness, and a little bit of an "edginess" which I lost. Not only that, but I even have a different energy level. At the start of the summer, I was exactly that...loud, exciting, fun etc. Then as the date progressed, I would eventually, lower the energy level to a more mellow "seductive" level (this happened naturally. I never had to consciously focus on it). Whereas now, my energy level has completely dropped and I just feel like I'm boring and kind of well...awkward (sometimes). So perhaps"arrogance" is the wrong word to use in this context. I'm just not sure exactly how to describe it haha.
 
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