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So when I first started this school year, I had this sense of arrogance. I literally believed that all women wanted my dick and that every other guy is a pussy and has no idea wtf he's doing with women. So of course, every women who finally met a stud like me would want my dick in less then 2 hours. After a few outings and a few rejections, this belief changed. I started to lose my arrogance, and started to think and therefore behave in less attractive ways (still more attractive than most guys...but not as attractive as I was before).
I thought back and realized that this cockiness came from the previous summer. The only women I was meeting were Tinder dates. This means that these are women who are necessarily at least curious if not super into me already. So with pretty much all of them, I ALWAYS got all the way up to the point of LMR and in some cases, I got laid. This created an absurd level of cockiness and arrogance. This is because I had the belief that I was successful with women, and it was supported by the outside world.
Then came the start of the school year. I went to a couple parties, cocky af. And women loved me. But still...I didn't pull any girls home. Mainly because of logistical issue and also because my game in parties is not as tight as my game in one on one situations. To add insult to injury, even though 90% of the girls seemed into me, there were always one or two of them who rejected me. Then I went on a couple of first dates with girls who I really liked. And I ran into that same LMR. But unlike before, it was a lot more difficult to discard them. Partially because I liked them a lot more than anyone I met throughout the summer, and partially because I have a lot less dates now then I did back then (this is a result of going to school in a smaller city). So I started chasing hard. I started to feel weak...and ruminate about the "one special girl" all day. Before I knew it, all that arrogance I had built up was gone. Never to return. Consequently, the loss of this mindset affected all future dates. And so all of us sudden, here I am, feeling like I've gone backwards. Yes, my actually "technique" is better. But my fundamentals and vibe are probably worse.
This got me thinking...there are a lot of mindsets in seduction which are beneficial to have. Examples are:
-Assume Attraction
-Given the right circumstances, all women will have sex on a first date/first meeting.
- X insecurity that I have about myself doesn't affect my relationship life
- I'm the best option available to any women I interact with.
- There are other equally or more attractive women who want me (i.e. abundance).
...and so on. The list is endless.
But as outlined in my story above, it's difficult to believe them if they're unsupported by the feedback we get from the outside world. I'd like to discuss this with you guys. Is it possible to form and retain beliefs which are not well supported by our current experiences? If so, how do we do it?
I thought back and realized that this cockiness came from the previous summer. The only women I was meeting were Tinder dates. This means that these are women who are necessarily at least curious if not super into me already. So with pretty much all of them, I ALWAYS got all the way up to the point of LMR and in some cases, I got laid. This created an absurd level of cockiness and arrogance. This is because I had the belief that I was successful with women, and it was supported by the outside world.
Then came the start of the school year. I went to a couple parties, cocky af. And women loved me. But still...I didn't pull any girls home. Mainly because of logistical issue and also because my game in parties is not as tight as my game in one on one situations. To add insult to injury, even though 90% of the girls seemed into me, there were always one or two of them who rejected me. Then I went on a couple of first dates with girls who I really liked. And I ran into that same LMR. But unlike before, it was a lot more difficult to discard them. Partially because I liked them a lot more than anyone I met throughout the summer, and partially because I have a lot less dates now then I did back then (this is a result of going to school in a smaller city). So I started chasing hard. I started to feel weak...and ruminate about the "one special girl" all day. Before I knew it, all that arrogance I had built up was gone. Never to return. Consequently, the loss of this mindset affected all future dates. And so all of us sudden, here I am, feeling like I've gone backwards. Yes, my actually "technique" is better. But my fundamentals and vibe are probably worse.
This got me thinking...there are a lot of mindsets in seduction which are beneficial to have. Examples are:
-Assume Attraction
-Given the right circumstances, all women will have sex on a first date/first meeting.
- X insecurity that I have about myself doesn't affect my relationship life
- I'm the best option available to any women I interact with.
- There are other equally or more attractive women who want me (i.e. abundance).
...and so on. The list is endless.
But as outlined in my story above, it's difficult to believe them if they're unsupported by the feedback we get from the outside world. I'd like to discuss this with you guys. Is it possible to form and retain beliefs which are not well supported by our current experiences? If so, how do we do it?

