"How to get laid in college" by Hector, what can a virgin senior do?

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

Hi there Chase and Hector, I have tried out some new things but they do not look too promising...

I just recently read your article about college from Hector but what I noticed was that unlike me, he "got it" or understood what he was doing before he got to college. Now in college, it is by far the easiest to get laid during your freshman year because that is when everyone is wild and just getting ready to party. The people I have talked to have said that after freshman year, the girls and their wild behavior dies down and mostly everyone has settled into a clique or group. After those groups have been formed at your typical state university, people will remain with that group to some extent for most of the time.

The reason I felt offended by that article is because hector struggled in high school but had a nice start to college, he had it figured out by his freshman year so I find it unfair how he says he can "relate" to any of us. In his case, he lived the typical life of a college kid starting out.

In my case I had to transfer to this school so while people formed their bonds during their freshman year and made long lasting friendships, I was late to the party and suffered because of it. Then I slowly started taking steps and made friends with guys who would throw parties. Notice that I did all this as an upperclassman because I was a transfer. Right now as a senior, options such as rushing a fraternity are completely out of the question for me.

What I am struggling with is that I can make friends with cool guys who throw parties and some are even my close friends but the girls I meet are so cold to me.

It's like they are nice to all of the other guys who are in that group and talk to them or acknowledge them in a social setting but I am practically invisible to them. This has led to a great amount of frustration on my part and on my past thread I talked about how it is messing with my mind.

What I want to know is that after all these options have failed, what can I do now?

 

[Franco]

Altair,

I'm still trying to figure out why you keep saying this:

Right now as a senior, options such as rushing a fraternity are completely out of the question for me.

We've had PhD students and Masters students rush my fraternity. Wherever you are getting this information from is false. You can rush a fraternity wherever and whenever you want to. If this is really what you want to do, you should go for it. Don't make excuses for yourself.

- Franco

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

Where did you go to college franco?

I go to school in the dixie and my school takes greek life very seriously, like it is a big part of the tradition down here. Almost all of the hot girls are in sororities and frats pretty much run everything. The top ones give bids to freshman only because they want them to stay connected to the fraternity. I have done the research and haven't heard of frats letting in grad students but that is great if they do.

 

[Franco]

Altair,

The top ones give bids to freshman only because they want them to stay connected to the fraternity. I have done the research and haven't heard of frats letting in grad students but that is great if they do.

That's just not true, bud. Yes, they like to have freshman because it means they'll be able to stay for multiple years, but they take anyone that is a student. You simply have to socialize with them during rush week and show interest in joining their fraternity (without being overly pushy of course). Just talk with the guys at all of the booths of all the social fraternities. Also, FYI, you don't need to be in the TOP fraternity; all the social fraternities have "mixers" and do events with (mostly) all the social sororities.

Sometimes even being in a less popular social fraternity can be better for you because you can more easily become one of the "big dogs" in a less popular one, which will garner you much more attention.

I went to UCSD, but there isn't a single university I have heard of that doesn't accept older students. You're not even a graduate student, so this isn't even an issue. I know plenty of guys who have rushed their senior year (and I actually rushed my junior year, by the way). So again, don't create excuses for yourself. Get out there on rush week and start socializing with the guys at the booths. Get your fundamentals down tight before you go out there and just be a cool guy and there's no doubt that you'll find at least one fraternity that would like you to rush for them.

If anything, your biggest concern should be getting all of your work done while still being able to participate in all of the rush activities. It was somewhat difficult for me to do all of the rush activities my junior year because I had much more time-consuming classes than the freshman, but they were pretty lenient about the times that I needed to study.

- Franco

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

The west coast is a lot more lenient on this kind of thing so I am not surprised, they let anyone rush but yes, some frats have been known to give bids to juniors, not sure about seniors though. I believe rush week might have also passed which kinda sucks. As for grad students, almost everywhere I have done research on this says that greek life is not really an option for them and most fraternities won't even consider giving a bid to one. That said, it is a process I am more than willing to go through with and not just for the sake of being with sorority girls but I truly feel that belonging to a brotherhood of cool guys can change a person for the better. Having grown up around elitist nerds and immigrants with strict parents, I think my game and inner system of thought has been negatively influenced.

So far what I have tried to create somewhat of a brotherhood like experience being a GDI by making friends with guys that like to party. Now this has put me into access with some decent looking girls who have known those guys for a while but these girls just ignore me most of the times. Just a day ago I was out with some my friends and these groups of girls (sorority girls) see them, give them hugs, and start chatting with them. All the while, they completely ignore me. I even made a comment on something they were talking about only to find that they looked in my direction and then looked away, pretended like I wasn't there, and continued to talk to the guys.

I have an idea now, realizing that there is a journal section on field reports, I am going to post a lot of these interactions up there and my mental growth if it happens because right now after how hard I have been hit at my new college, my self-esteem has taken a nose dive. It is like I am so angry about massive rejections since getting here coupled in with the terrible treatment by girls that I become so negative it stops me from moving forward.

 

[fsc]

it is by far the easiest to get laid during your freshman year because that is when everyone is wild and just getting ready to party.

No. It is easy to lay freshmen girls. You don't need to be a freshman.

I just recently read your article about college from Hector but what I noticed was that unlike me, he "got it" or understood what he was doing before he got to college...The reason I felt offended by that article is because hector struggled in high school but had a nice start to college, he had it figured out by his freshman year so I find it unfair how he says he can "relate" to any of us...In my case I had to transfer to this school so while people formed their bonds during their freshman year and made long lasting friendships, I was late to the party and suffered because of it...Right now as a senior, options such as rushing a fraternity are completely out of the question for me...Having grown up around elitist nerds and immigrants with strict parents, I think my game and inner system of thought has been negatively influenced

You keep whining about the same things over and over and over again. I've addressed this multiple times, as my life story is quite relatable to yours. Go back and reread my posts under your threads.
I don't know if I've mentioned this already or not, but my frat initiated a 26 year old transfer student last winter quarter. I also crossed over with a grad student. I'm in a frat in UCLA. The guys all wear button-down shirts with shorts and Sperrys. It's either that or backwards sorority hat with sorority sunglasses, sorority event tank tops or "Rush MY_FRAT" tank tops, and a gallon handle of Arrowhead water. They all try to look like Ryan Gosling and act all "alpha". Beverly Hills is literally next door, and all the sorority girls try to look and act like celebrities from Beverly Hills. Our greek life is stereotypical as fuck, so don't make it sound like your school's greek life is anything special. Unless the Office of Fraternity and Sorority Relations or whatever tells you that there's a written rule saying you can't join a frat as a senior or a grad student, you can join. Just rush, be a badass, and they'll bid you.

the girls I meet are so cold to me...It is like I am so angry about massive rejections since getting here coupled in with the terrible treatment by girls that I become so negative it stops me from moving forward.

A lot of sorority girls are simply bitches. Same can be said about girls who frequent parties, bars, and clubs. Do more approaches during the day. I just came back from Vegas. Day gaming there went really well, but as soon at the sun went down almost all of the girls became bitches. The entire time I've day gamed since starting out, I've only experienced about 5 negative reactions from girls out of about 90 approaches. However, almost all of my 20-30 approaches I've done during night gaming at Vegas the girl responded in a really sour way. One of them even laughed at me and talked shit about me with her female friend as I walked away.
Work on your fundamentals to improve the girls' initial reaction. A lot of guys who are starting out have this serious look on their faces as if it's a life or death situation talking to girls. I feel like you suffer from this because of all your damn stupid, unnecessary negativity. Look, when you break down pick up, it's literally just knowing how to talk to people. Don't take shit seriously and just have fun.
Meditate or do whatever to get you in a good state. One day while day gaming in Santa Monica last week or whenever, I got a really cold, degrading response from a girl which tossed me down into a bad mood. I went to the gym with my friend and sparred to improve my state. At the gym I approached a tall, blonde, fit Ukrainian who was wearing a sports bra and yoga pants. It went pretty good. It got the entire gym quiet, and I felt like a badass because she was hot as fuck. I then approached another hot MILF, who also happened to be in a sports bra and yoga pants, and it went even better. According to my friend, the entire gym stopped working out to watch. LOLOLOL.
Be in a good state, don't forget to smile, and have fun.

What I want to know is that after all these options have failed, what can I do now?

What have you done? What are these options that you say you have tried? Post some field reports so we can see what you're doing and actually provide useful, specific advice because all I've seen from you so far are repeated self-pity and all this bullshit about how things don't and won't work because of this and that.

I'm generally an extremely patient guy, but you are starting to offend me too because all these other guys and I are taking the time trying to motivate you and help you out, but you don't seem to listen as you keep posting the same content repeatedly about being a kissless virgin senior or whatever. Get rid of your entitled mentality and the victim mentality. Realize that you can be the hottest guy in the world, do everything perfectly, and still have an average-looking girl reject you. Accept that the world isn't fair and life is hard. Don't expect to become a ladies' man overnight. Reread all the responses to your threads. Take a day off and relax and reset your mind. Go make yourself happy doing something else like working out or whatever, then go day game non-sorority girls and post some field reports. Remember to smile, have fun, and be a lover of all women.

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

I've hit the gym and approached a few girls, sure, I'll post a field report with my thoughts.

 

[fsc]

You live in Los Angeles right? I have personally never been there or stayed for a short time but I can bet right now most of the times you are only seeing black and white guys get the beautiful California blondes you talk about. How often is it that you see some guy who looks arabic (or maybe even a lighter indian) get those kinds of women? Think about it for a second.

First of all, you haven't been here. Secondly, you're sitting in front of a computer, speculating. I see enough Asian-blonde, Arab-blonde, and Indian-blonde pairs to never worry about interracial coupling. I actually never worried about this until you and a few others mentioned it in the forums. For the record, black-blonde is the most frequent interracial coupling that I see, and Indian-blonde is the least frequent. However, I'd like to restate my point that I see them frequently enough for me to never worry about it.

I think my issue might be to the point where maybe game cannot overcome it.

LOL, two nights ago I managed to "brute force" a racist blonde, who has "passionate hatred" for my ethnicity, into my bed using fundamentals, conversation, and smooth transitions/leading. She was a 9, if you use that 10-scale.

I see so many of these girls who are white and good looking but then realize that they will never see me as anything more than maybe a friend at best. How do you even move forward when you know most of these girls will have their status hurt by sleeping with you and see you as some negative stereotype the media has portrayed? Even in a place as liberal as California, I bet none of those hot blondes go for an arabic looking brown skinned guy. Think about it for a second.

Think about being born as a race women are taught to hate by media, their friends, and even their families yet also being part of a race which is shown as having no sex appeal. How would you go about getting the hottest girls around if that was the case?

I'm pretty sure YOU are the one who is most influenced by media. I mean, Asians have it BAD. We have tentacle rape porn, we are nerds, we are shy social-retards who can't talk to girls, we have tiny penises, this and that. I've picked up sorority girls who have gone from hot to cold JUST BECAUSE I'm in the engineering frat. LOL. Like I said, we have a very stereotypical greek life. Oh well. Time to pick up some more.

Think about it for a second.

You "think" a lot. Just DO. Empty your head and start over. Maybe you'll get more rejections than you would in LA, but don't take that shit personally.

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

what about hispanic-blonde? I would think that would be more common than black-blonde over in CA.

Of course you see black guys with blondes because it is seen as "cool" to hook up with a black guy in a blue state like California. You just have to stand there and let some woman with a fetish come to you and as long as you say yes, it is a done deal. Now on the other hand a guy who looks like the Arabian dude who was kicked out of a country for being too good looking (not sure of his name but if you google something along the lines of that you will find out what I mean) approached a cute blonde, he would not have as much luck. Women are so caught up in media to where they will date some black guy who doesn't even have that much game over a successful arabian guy because all blacks are automatically cool and all foreigners are ugly, that is the impression I get.

With that said, I didn't know you were Korean and to see you having success with sorority girl to some extent inspires me. I feel like it is only black and white guys who get to fuck hot white girls while everyone else is forced by stereotypes, media, and society to sit on the sideline and quite frankly it pisses me off. Sexual frustration has turned me into being a bit racist, all because I haven't seen guys who look remotely similar to Sami Kheidera with attractive white girls, like ever. I almost feel like white women that look good are willing to go out of their way to get with a black guy just so they can brag about not being racist but will avoid all other minorities.

 

[fsc]

what about hispanic-blonde? I would think that would be more common than black-blonde over in CA.

Lol...is it really necessary to get this specific?

Focus more on you becoming the guy in an Arab-blonde pairing instead of worrying about pointless things. How about that?

Look, I'm a HUGE sucker for blondes as well. Most of the girls I approach are blondes. If they're not blondes, they're usually other whites. When I go out, however, I don't worry about how I'll perform, or worry about what I think blondes think about Asians, or be all sad about negative Asian stereotypes, or try to spot an Asian-blonde couple. Fuck all that. I don't care if I look like an idiot approaching a girl who spectators might think is "out of my league". Fuck stereotypes, I try to be an exception to the negative Asian-engineer stereotypes. I try to be the guy who others look at and say "damn, how dat foo get that blonde?".

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

It matters a lot to me because it serves a great purpose:

1. California has a lot of hispanic guys
2. California has a lot of blondes

If there are more hispanic guys than black guys with blonde girls then it must mean that game and fundamentals matter more than stereotypes of your race. Another thing is that unlike asians, hispanics actually approach women a lot and go after them more just as much as black guys do. If there are tons of hispanics in California with white girls (specifically blondes) then chances are it isn't my brown skin holding me back from getting the kind of women I like. If black guy with blonde girl is truly the most common pairing then the reasoning is obvious, racial stereotypes matter far more than fundamentals.

Though if it is more common in CA than hispanics with blondes then I am convinced my belief is legit because CA is almost half hispanic.

 

[fsc]

OHHHH SHIT I just remembered this.

Last month I picked up a super hot Slovenian girl. She looked a lot like Emily Blunt in the movie Edge of Tomorrow, except this chick had slim eyes. I disobeyed GC's advice and invited her to my party. While I was occupied talking to some other girl, I lost this Slovenian. I wandered around my frat house to look for her and guess what I saw...some Arab motherfucker dry humping her against the wall and making out with her.

 

[The Armani Code]

wtf

fsc, you mind telling me what part of CA you're in? I am currently in Fremont and could use some advice about CA girls.

Also, I see quite a lot of latinos with white girls in the state but IMO they look way different than indians and arabs. I would go as far as to say that latino and white is the most common interracial couple throughout the entire state but some latinos look completely white though.

 

[fsc]

It matters a lot to me because it serves a great purpose:

1. California has a lot of hispanic guys
2. California has a lot of blondes

If there are more hispanic guys than black guys with blonde girls then it must mean that game and fundamentals matter more than stereotypes of your race. Another thing is that unlike asians, hispanics actually approach women a lot and go after them more just as much as black guys do. If there are tons of hispanics in California with white girls (specifically blondes) then chances are it isn't my brown skin holding me back from getting the kind of women I like. If black guy with blonde girl is truly the most common pairing then the reasoning is obvious, racial stereotypes matter far more than fundamentals.

Though if it is more common in CA than hispanics with blondes then I am convinced my belief is legit because CA is almost half hispanic.

STOP.
Stop looking to other couples for validation, and stop wasting your time with these pointless statistics and speculations and crap.
Like I said, polish up your game, get out there, and get the blonde.

Look, you're not Chase (yet), so you will fail A LOT. But it's a numbers game. I stopped counting, but I get rejected by about 10 hot blondes before I even get a number from one.

LOL I'm starting to feel stupid with all this blonde talk. Race isn't a big deal.

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

I will admit one thing and that is that my mentality is fucking garbage and I wish I knew how to fix it. Right now it makes me a bit angry that some guy who is out of shape and not even good looking has a better chance of landing a hot blonde than I do simply because he happens to be a certain minority group and American society puts him on the pedestal as being cool while I have to suffer just for my race alone.

It's almost like everything out there has a cure except for doing well with women.

You're fat? Here is a way to get fit now get to it.
Your grades such? Here is a good program to go with so work on it!
Your unemployed? Here is a way to get a job now get to it!

Yet with women it's not like that. Like what do I do in a situation where the kind of women I like have automatically disqualified me for my ethnic appearance alone? Like think about your CA example, there are hardly that many black guys in the state and plenty of latinos yet you see a lot more black guys with blondes than latinos with blondes. Comes to show just how powerful the racial preferences of american women are to the point that media has that much power over them.

But I agree with the big picture, I can't let society dictate how I live my life, somehow and some way I have work at it. I guess when you really want something, you have to find a way to make it happen. But how, I just wish I had someone to tell me how a guy like me who looks like Sami Kheidera can get a hot blonde in the USA, the group of women that are known to hate men of my skin color and ethnic appearance.

 

[fsc]

I will admit one thing and that is that my mentality is fucking garbage and I wish I knew how to fix it. Right now it makes me a bit angry that some guy who is out of shape and not even good looking has a better chance of landing a hot blonde than I do simply because he happens to be a certain minority group and American society puts him on the pedestal as being cool while I have to suffer just for my race alone.

Someone on GC forums posted this before, but you just gotta accept that life is hard and unfair.

It's almost like everything out there has a cure except for doing well with women.

Yes, there is a cure. There is this site called girlschase.com. Have you heard of it? It's a gold mine of knowledge.

Bro, I used to be garbage with women. GARBAGE. I sucked ass. I tell some of the girls and guys I meet some personal stories from 1+ years ago and they don't believe me because I was that terrible.

there are hardly that many black guys in the state and plenty of latinos yet you see a lot more black guys with blondes than latinos with blondes. Comes to show just how powerful the racial preferences of american women are to the point that media has that much power over them.

Bro, if you were telling this to me right now in person, after all the things I've repeatedly told you on the forums and after all the times you've repeated yourself about race, I would punch you in your damn Sami Kheidera face. In a nice way though. Because I'm trying to help you.

Stop thinking for once. Stop being so analytical and logical and shit. Stop worrying about the media and what you think girls think and...you know what? PRETEND YOU'RE WHITE. Go watch some more YouTube videos of RSD Tyler and try to emulate some of his "I DON'T FUCKING CARE" mentality.

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

My mind has always been this way towards things, I think more about them than I should. It's almost like the way I was raised to think, I am just a very analytical kind of guy. I take data, analyze it, and draw conclusions from it.

For example, in this situation I see that you are in CA and I know that CA has a lot of latino guys but also a lot of blonde women. Now I should see quite a few latino men with blonde women yet by what you see it is most common to see black men (the smallest population group) with blondes. That makes me see the world in a certain way and in turn that effects how I see myself because I have been mistaken for latino before by latinos.

After having grown up in the dixie where I was confronted for talking to the kind of women I loved and one time even beaten up for it, I have realized that my mind has learned to see the world in a certain way and this relates a lot to getting women too. I want to be in a place where if I have my shit together and become the best that I can be, my ethnic appearance alone won't stop me from getting the kind of women I love.

 

[fsc]

You know what? I'm gonna take a step back and apologize because I've been speaking based only on my experience in LA. I just read PinotNoir's latest response here and realized that I haven't completely put myself in your shoes. I haven't experienced first-hand the racism you say you've experienced, so I had no right to mouth off as if every girl in the US behaved like the girls I've ran into in LA, in my Korean skin.

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

You know what? I'm gonna take a step back and apologize because I've been speaking based only on my experience in LA. I just read PinotNoir's latest response here and realized that I haven't completely put myself in your shoes. I haven't experienced first-hand the racism you say you've experienced, so I had no right to mouth off as if every girl in the US behaved like the girls I've ran into in LA, in my Korean skin.

It's okay and I want to apologize for being this selfish and negative, because quite frankly I am just frustrated at the fact that I can't do a thing about my predicament. I also want to thank you for your effort in trying to help me, never have I had people care this much about me. Hope you continue to do well and maybe one day we are at a point to where a guy with brown skin and middle eastern facial features who has tight fundamentals and is a quality guy can get the kind of women he desires (hot white girls). I'll be working hard to make myself the best looking and as social as I can be so when that day comes, I am ready.

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

Don't mean to make my comment too racist but I had to share this with you, the thing about most black guys is that they don't have these massive egos that a lot of arabian guys I have been around have. I have also seen that most black guys have this sort of cool factor to them not in the sense of stereotypes but that they aren't heavily judgmental towards everyone. With a lot of black guys I have also found that they will make it clear and move fast with a girl (as Chase says) and aren't too picky about her history. I know a lot of white guys who will not get into a relationship with a girl who has been with a black guy before but I hardly know any black guy who will reject a black girl that has been with a white guy.

If a girl is hot, most black guys will make it clear they like her and try to get with her. It has nothing to do with stereotypes, the thing is that most black guys aren't uber picky and they lack these crazy made up standards that guys of other races have. Most black guys like girls that look good and are down to fuck, it's that simple. Also, black guys don't have these weird preference such as a girl's hair being too dark or too blonde, it's just strictly "she's hot, lets fuck!".

Now with that said, I have seen a lot more latinos with white girls than black guys with white girls especially in my stays in CA so I don't quite know what fsc is getting at there. White girls love latinos and hook up with them regularly, it is so common that most white men don't even care if a Mario Lopez or a Cristiano Ronaldo plows some crazy attractive blonde because White women and Latinos fuck each other a lot. I can't find the statistics for it but White and Latino is the most common interracial relationship there is in the US.

PS: I am a white guy and I have talked to a lot of white girls so I am just going by what they tell me on race. White girls love latinos, if you can pass for a latino I recommend you do so right now.