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So after @Grand Pooba and his posts on rich guy game, I wanted to chime in as I think this still deserves more discussion, the posts left something out, maybe another perspective?
Background:
I grew up upper middle class as a guy, most of my classmates went off to prestigious state schools and some to Ivies. My environment was the typical upper middle class suburban environment, very cookie cutter and the prototypical American lifestyle type. I went to a school in the SEC and then graduated, got a job at a desirable employer a lot of people fresh out of college want to work for, and also started a side business. At this point, I can afford to screw around just a bit with money.
The problem with most wealthy guys and why it isn't the money itself.
Even @Chase mentioned it in a thread by @Train about corporate people. Corporate environments attract "nice guys" who are asexual. Most men who get rich (think Zucerberg for example) were the dorks in school and even now are kind of dorky. The thing is, high school never ends. Yeah I said it, to women it is always a popularity contest, even after 30.
I noticed trends in women and the popular kids from my school, not only did they go on to top state schools and go Greek, they also got roles at certain companies or in given careers. Now just so happens that unlike being an engineer, those careers encourage things like assertiveness and understanding of social frames. Moving on though....
First, change your mindset about being rich even if it is egotistical.
Rich does not mean dorky nerd. Rich does not mean prim cut gentleman. Rich does not mean suit and tie. Rich means you got money, plain and simple. Look at what wealth buys.
Wealth does not just buy finer things and access to finer circles, wealth buys finer HEALTH. Better gym access, better care for body, better nutrients, better sexual health, and you name it as wealth buys it. Use wealth to its advantage to look good, buy peace of mind, and buy better health.
No matter how rich, girls hate being bored. Women cannot stand boredom, especially in western society where they are likely spoiled.
Find better rich role models, don't look at Bezos, Zuck, or some tech geek. Look at alpha males who happen to be rich.
Conor McGregor, Pablo Escobar, Dan Bilzerian, Hugh Hefner, and men who are alpha rich males that ask for the world. Do not look at rich guys that are dorky and subtle, look at rich guys that are alphas. Make them your role models, learn from them. Be that entitled trust fund baby who sees women as sex toys instead of a pussy whipped beta male beat to death by corporate society.
Now what you can actually do.
1. Do not show off material wealth, losers do that.
Rolex? Suits? Yeah losers who are new rich do that. Material rich is a thing from a while ago, the new cool rich show off flashy Instagrams, travel pics to flashy places, living in "cool happening" areas of the city, and meeting celebs. Rich is not about buying material things now, it is about buying experiences. Women do not want to touch your Rolex, they want to experience you in Mikonos getting drunk and having fun experiences partying as you bring the good vibes. The cool rich is experience, he is that guy who pulls you out of class to go drink with you at a nightclub you know you are too young to be at and makes you feel naughty for it, the boring rich is the suit and tie loser with a job.
This was in bold for a reason.
2. Get in the gym and look good.
Can take two years if you are starting out chubby though. People debate the importance of looks but go to the gym and lift. Go to the gym, look good, lift, and get your physical appearance in order. You do not have to be a John Stamos lookalike, just look like you would look good without a shirt on. Worry about the physical aspect of looks you can control and there are other benefits to being fit anyways. Maybe even take up MMA as you get the time. I found that changing my physical appearance did wonders for my results with women, I felt healthier.
3. Find cool alpha friends whose vibes rub off on you.
Hang out with the cool black kid who happened to start from the bottom and get rich, the rich douchey white guy, or some suave wealthy Latino. Don't make your circle full of nerdy Indian and nerdy Asian guys who whine about how women hate them. You will find that with cool rich friends, their vibes will rub off on you. Maybe even make promoter friends who see value in being friends with you and your wealth as long as they can bring you girls. I used to hang out dorky Asian and Indian engineers who made good bank, these men were very toxic. After asking to change teams and be around more cool white guys and a couple of alpha latinos, I felt better about life and it rubbed off in my social interactions. Cool friends will keep you in line.
4. Disqualify fast.
I often tell girls "I am not looking for anything long-term right now, if things change after we get to know each other better then maybe but not right now". In sales, the worst part is not losing, it is taking too long to lose. Same as with dating, disqualify fast and quickly. Learn to lose really fast with women and walk away if immediate sex is not on the line. Do not be afraid to lose girls and lose them fast.
5. Game on weekdays, especially night game once it recovers after COVID-19.
Game on a Tuesday night if you are in a big city, have a couple drinks on a Wednesday night, and go out into town on weekdays. If you are rich, you have some buffer. You can probably afford to somewhat be on autopilot or even control your hours a bit, go out on weekdays to game instead of on weekends. Find more happy hour spots or more parties that people would not be at if they are away to work. Less distractions and the odds are even better.
7. Know where the best stuff is whether parties or bars. Play on their need to be popular.
You have wealth, know where the best parties and bars are at. Be that guy who is in the know for the city and knows where the best spots are at. Know when certain spots are good and build good rapport with staff at those places. Even get to know them better as people and see if they vouch for you at times. Find the exclusive parties and leverage that part of your lifestyle. The truth is that western women are bored, what consumes their head is being in the popular crowd or being popular. All that social media drama and going out a lot is to compensate for their need for validation. Most women living in a wealthy enough country, especially an Anglo one, have that need to be popular and belong to the elite fun cool crew, high school just never fucking ends.
8. Work on being less boring and more interesting but in a cool fun way.
No, you are not going to pull off a suit and cigar, even if you did you'd come off as a try hard who has money. Be a DJ at a nightclub, learn to dance well (@Skills might even teach you), learn to take photographs of models (who you can even pay if you cannot find any), and find skills that make you sexy, interesting, and fun to the newer generation. Maybe if your wealth has brought you time, get a more cool job or gig that puts you in touch with women instead of coding all day.
About does it.
Wealth is not a curse for getting laid, it is an avenue. Broke guys do not get laid more because they are broke, they get laid more because they are not confined. Rich men have a high ceiling even for casual sex, hell even get on escort game if it gets that bad to escape commitment. But remember, rich men can always get casual sex just as easily as poor men.
Rich no longer means suits, ties, and material wealth. Anyone who believes that is fake rich, new rich, and out of touch.
Background:
I grew up upper middle class as a guy, most of my classmates went off to prestigious state schools and some to Ivies. My environment was the typical upper middle class suburban environment, very cookie cutter and the prototypical American lifestyle type. I went to a school in the SEC and then graduated, got a job at a desirable employer a lot of people fresh out of college want to work for, and also started a side business. At this point, I can afford to screw around just a bit with money.
The problem with most wealthy guys and why it isn't the money itself.
Even @Chase mentioned it in a thread by @Train about corporate people. Corporate environments attract "nice guys" who are asexual. Most men who get rich (think Zucerberg for example) were the dorks in school and even now are kind of dorky. The thing is, high school never ends. Yeah I said it, to women it is always a popularity contest, even after 30.
I noticed trends in women and the popular kids from my school, not only did they go on to top state schools and go Greek, they also got roles at certain companies or in given careers. Now just so happens that unlike being an engineer, those careers encourage things like assertiveness and understanding of social frames. Moving on though....
First, change your mindset about being rich even if it is egotistical.
Rich does not mean dorky nerd. Rich does not mean prim cut gentleman. Rich does not mean suit and tie. Rich means you got money, plain and simple. Look at what wealth buys.
Wealth does not just buy finer things and access to finer circles, wealth buys finer HEALTH. Better gym access, better care for body, better nutrients, better sexual health, and you name it as wealth buys it. Use wealth to its advantage to look good, buy peace of mind, and buy better health.
No matter how rich, girls hate being bored. Women cannot stand boredom, especially in western society where they are likely spoiled.
Find better rich role models, don't look at Bezos, Zuck, or some tech geek. Look at alpha males who happen to be rich.
Conor McGregor, Pablo Escobar, Dan Bilzerian, Hugh Hefner, and men who are alpha rich males that ask for the world. Do not look at rich guys that are dorky and subtle, look at rich guys that are alphas. Make them your role models, learn from them. Be that entitled trust fund baby who sees women as sex toys instead of a pussy whipped beta male beat to death by corporate society.
Now what you can actually do.
1. Do not show off material wealth, losers do that.
Rolex? Suits? Yeah losers who are new rich do that. Material rich is a thing from a while ago, the new cool rich show off flashy Instagrams, travel pics to flashy places, living in "cool happening" areas of the city, and meeting celebs. Rich is not about buying material things now, it is about buying experiences. Women do not want to touch your Rolex, they want to experience you in Mikonos getting drunk and having fun experiences partying as you bring the good vibes. The cool rich is experience, he is that guy who pulls you out of class to go drink with you at a nightclub you know you are too young to be at and makes you feel naughty for it, the boring rich is the suit and tie loser with a job.
This was in bold for a reason.
2. Get in the gym and look good.
Can take two years if you are starting out chubby though. People debate the importance of looks but go to the gym and lift. Go to the gym, look good, lift, and get your physical appearance in order. You do not have to be a John Stamos lookalike, just look like you would look good without a shirt on. Worry about the physical aspect of looks you can control and there are other benefits to being fit anyways. Maybe even take up MMA as you get the time. I found that changing my physical appearance did wonders for my results with women, I felt healthier.
3. Find cool alpha friends whose vibes rub off on you.
Hang out with the cool black kid who happened to start from the bottom and get rich, the rich douchey white guy, or some suave wealthy Latino. Don't make your circle full of nerdy Indian and nerdy Asian guys who whine about how women hate them. You will find that with cool rich friends, their vibes will rub off on you. Maybe even make promoter friends who see value in being friends with you and your wealth as long as they can bring you girls. I used to hang out dorky Asian and Indian engineers who made good bank, these men were very toxic. After asking to change teams and be around more cool white guys and a couple of alpha latinos, I felt better about life and it rubbed off in my social interactions. Cool friends will keep you in line.
4. Disqualify fast.
I often tell girls "I am not looking for anything long-term right now, if things change after we get to know each other better then maybe but not right now". In sales, the worst part is not losing, it is taking too long to lose. Same as with dating, disqualify fast and quickly. Learn to lose really fast with women and walk away if immediate sex is not on the line. Do not be afraid to lose girls and lose them fast.
5. Game on weekdays, especially night game once it recovers after COVID-19.
Game on a Tuesday night if you are in a big city, have a couple drinks on a Wednesday night, and go out into town on weekdays. If you are rich, you have some buffer. You can probably afford to somewhat be on autopilot or even control your hours a bit, go out on weekdays to game instead of on weekends. Find more happy hour spots or more parties that people would not be at if they are away to work. Less distractions and the odds are even better.
7. Know where the best stuff is whether parties or bars. Play on their need to be popular.
You have wealth, know where the best parties and bars are at. Be that guy who is in the know for the city and knows where the best spots are at. Know when certain spots are good and build good rapport with staff at those places. Even get to know them better as people and see if they vouch for you at times. Find the exclusive parties and leverage that part of your lifestyle. The truth is that western women are bored, what consumes their head is being in the popular crowd or being popular. All that social media drama and going out a lot is to compensate for their need for validation. Most women living in a wealthy enough country, especially an Anglo one, have that need to be popular and belong to the elite fun cool crew, high school just never fucking ends.
8. Work on being less boring and more interesting but in a cool fun way.
No, you are not going to pull off a suit and cigar, even if you did you'd come off as a try hard who has money. Be a DJ at a nightclub, learn to dance well (@Skills might even teach you), learn to take photographs of models (who you can even pay if you cannot find any), and find skills that make you sexy, interesting, and fun to the newer generation. Maybe if your wealth has brought you time, get a more cool job or gig that puts you in touch with women instead of coding all day.
About does it.
Wealth is not a curse for getting laid, it is an avenue. Broke guys do not get laid more because they are broke, they get laid more because they are not confined. Rich men have a high ceiling even for casual sex, hell even get on escort game if it gets that bad to escape commitment. But remember, rich men can always get casual sex just as easily as poor men.
Rich no longer means suits, ties, and material wealth. Anyone who believes that is fake rich, new rich, and out of touch.
