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Hi guys. This is a soft/open ended question. Do you think that a guy can realistically keep a sense of morality, values and overall mental health while learning seduction? How?
For me I'm in the beginners hell phase of seduction. I've had 30+ online date FUs and now I'm learning daygame. In daygame I've done less than 10 approaches but almost all have been harsh, painful rejections. The point is that each rejection hurts a lot and affects me. The times that I felt lowest were after some women that I liked rejected me. The indirect and polite rejections can sometimes be the worst. I'm in the game to get married and have children and I know that I will be a better man with a woman in my life. I'll be better with my family, my friends and myself. I'll work better and everything because there will be a whole amount of positivity around me. So I'm working towards a good outcome.
I know that it's going to be around 100 approaches until my first number close, around 200 more until my first non flake number and probably over 1000 approaches until I have an actual girlfriend. So there are potentially thousands of rejections coming and they will probably hurt. I am wondering what kind of person I will have become after those approaches. There are many guys who have done well in game and are all the better for it. Many examples are to be found here on GC. But there are many guys who get a massive ego and are completely disagreeable to others at this point. Some even need therapy. We even see examples on this very board about guys in beginners hell - further along than myself - who are showing signs of negativity and anger e.g. using derogatory or hateful words to describe women who they actually want to date. Well, isn't game all about giving and sharing love (whatever "love" means to you) and if you want to date somebody, don't you fundamentally like them and not feel hate towards them, despite their annoying habits? Clearly something has been lost within these negative souls and I don't want the same thing to happen to me. At the same time, I don't want my mental health to suffer terribly through the 100+ rejections that are on the way. It's easy to tell somebody to go find a new woman to approach and it is in fact easy to do that, but rejection hurts, plain and simple and for me at the moment, it looks like there is no way around that. What effect will it have on a guy in beginners hell and how can he avoid the negative consequences, and only take the positive learning that is guaranteed to come with every new approach? Thanks.
For me I'm in the beginners hell phase of seduction. I've had 30+ online date FUs and now I'm learning daygame. In daygame I've done less than 10 approaches but almost all have been harsh, painful rejections. The point is that each rejection hurts a lot and affects me. The times that I felt lowest were after some women that I liked rejected me. The indirect and polite rejections can sometimes be the worst. I'm in the game to get married and have children and I know that I will be a better man with a woman in my life. I'll be better with my family, my friends and myself. I'll work better and everything because there will be a whole amount of positivity around me. So I'm working towards a good outcome.
I know that it's going to be around 100 approaches until my first number close, around 200 more until my first non flake number and probably over 1000 approaches until I have an actual girlfriend. So there are potentially thousands of rejections coming and they will probably hurt. I am wondering what kind of person I will have become after those approaches. There are many guys who have done well in game and are all the better for it. Many examples are to be found here on GC. But there are many guys who get a massive ego and are completely disagreeable to others at this point. Some even need therapy. We even see examples on this very board about guys in beginners hell - further along than myself - who are showing signs of negativity and anger e.g. using derogatory or hateful words to describe women who they actually want to date. Well, isn't game all about giving and sharing love (whatever "love" means to you) and if you want to date somebody, don't you fundamentally like them and not feel hate towards them, despite their annoying habits? Clearly something has been lost within these negative souls and I don't want the same thing to happen to me. At the same time, I don't want my mental health to suffer terribly through the 100+ rejections that are on the way. It's easy to tell somebody to go find a new woman to approach and it is in fact easy to do that, but rejection hurts, plain and simple and for me at the moment, it looks like there is no way around that. What effect will it have on a guy in beginners hell and how can he avoid the negative consequences, and only take the positive learning that is guaranteed to come with every new approach? Thanks.