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So, i used to believe when i started up my career with pick-up and seduction, that you shouldn't be LJBF'd by a woman or tell a woman you just wanna be her friend, if you plan on sleeping with her. After having hundreds of approaches and conversations under my belt i have had to face, that some of my beliefs weren't so black and white. One of them was realizing the whole secret society thing, where you had to present things in one way on the surface level, while sneaking her with you below the radar. I very quickly stopped taking "I don't sleep with guys on the first date" at face value and just playfully let it slide or being like "Ah cool" and then just proceed like nothing. It gives her plausible deniability and you just shut off her programming and logical brain while allowing her to go by her feelings. "Well i told him we weren't gonna have sex, so i'm not guilty for when we had sex, it is his fault, because i had already told him we weren't going to. My hands are cleans" i imagine her reasoning goes. (LR where i handle her objection)
This brings me to the boyfriend thing. I had this amazing conversation with a girl today. She didn't bring up her boyfriend at any point, she invested plenty into the conversation etc. I thought we had wrapped it up and i said "It has been cool talking to you, would you like to go for a walk at XX park some time?" and she says "Ahh i have a boyfriend" and idk why but my go to reaction for that is always "Ah is she sweet?" and they always go "haha it's a dude" (actually met a lesbian today who said yes it's a she, pretty funny) but this girl was like "... she?" and i say "Oh it's not a she?" and then looked at her with poker face and a lil smirk "Gosh, then i'm out of ideas" and then just kept talking with her and said "We can just do it as friends" and she was like "Ah okay, i just thought since you told me in the beginning you thought i looked cute and blah blah" and i just said "Yeah, you are very cute. So am i, i'm very cute, lots of people are cute, no big deal" and she laughed and agreed to go out and took her number. I handled the frame thing well i think.
She haven't texted me back yet but letting her go at "i have a boyfriend" would have a 100% fail rate as you are basically rejecting yourself, whereas with this strategy there might be a small chance that she's gonna come out on a date. When she's on the date with you, you can just give her plausible deniability while turning her on and stimulating her emotions, pull her home and isolate and arouse her etc. Maybe even throw in some gambits about how being more open to new experiences and giving one another space to enjoy life can strengthen the bond between you or some shit. Then she's not gonna be like "but you told me we were going as friends!!" it's the secret society thing. Most girls get it, the mischevious wink and smirk. Saying one thing, but meaning another. Plausible deniability.
Thoughts?
This brings me to the boyfriend thing. I had this amazing conversation with a girl today. She didn't bring up her boyfriend at any point, she invested plenty into the conversation etc. I thought we had wrapped it up and i said "It has been cool talking to you, would you like to go for a walk at XX park some time?" and she says "Ahh i have a boyfriend" and idk why but my go to reaction for that is always "Ah is she sweet?" and they always go "haha it's a dude" (actually met a lesbian today who said yes it's a she, pretty funny) but this girl was like "... she?" and i say "Oh it's not a she?" and then looked at her with poker face and a lil smirk "Gosh, then i'm out of ideas" and then just kept talking with her and said "We can just do it as friends" and she was like "Ah okay, i just thought since you told me in the beginning you thought i looked cute and blah blah" and i just said "Yeah, you are very cute. So am i, i'm very cute, lots of people are cute, no big deal" and she laughed and agreed to go out and took her number. I handled the frame thing well i think.
She haven't texted me back yet but letting her go at "i have a boyfriend" would have a 100% fail rate as you are basically rejecting yourself, whereas with this strategy there might be a small chance that she's gonna come out on a date. When she's on the date with you, you can just give her plausible deniability while turning her on and stimulating her emotions, pull her home and isolate and arouse her etc. Maybe even throw in some gambits about how being more open to new experiences and giving one another space to enjoy life can strengthen the bond between you or some shit. Then she's not gonna be like "but you told me we were going as friends!!" it's the secret society thing. Most girls get it, the mischevious wink and smirk. Saying one thing, but meaning another. Plausible deniability.
Thoughts?