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How to stay sane in an increasingly crazy political climate

Bill

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Ground yourself in what’s physically in front of you. Working out, walking, get physical hobbies like gardening or hunting.
 
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justonemoreperson

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Lately I've gotten heavily invested in current US politics.

After 27 years on this Earth, living a life devoid of financial responsibility, for the first time I am financially forced to hold down a job so I can pay my rent.

If I can't make my rent money by May, I'll be homeless. I've checked out different lines of work, and came out of them angry and disgusted at how much employers want to take advantage of their workers, paying dogshit wages and begging for overtime. It just angers me. We are not people to these greedy sons of bitches.

It is not difficult to understand why many might seek change. Now more than ever the people feel the weight of the decisions from those in power. As civil unrest grows... so does the chance of a revolution. Only coordinated violent measures would truly change things. I would gladly participate as I believe the cause to be just, I have never been politically invested before this time around.

So even if you likely cannot control the future outcomes of our society, taking the time to understand how the world works and how that affects you, is something a man should be knowledgeable about imo.
 

Chase

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@gameboy,

I completely agree for women you're gaming, but do you include long-term girl friends in that statement?

I can't imagine being with a partner that I can't even discuss politics with. I'd want them to at least know my general stance and accept my overall way of thinking, even if we don't necessarily agree in every detail. Never had a problem with that in previous LTRs.

When I have women I am in a relationship with venting about political positions I don't agree with, my default response is always, "Do you actually want to have a conversation about this or did you just want to vent?"

That cuts off the venting right quick. She realizes she's only going to get more frustrated talking to you (since you aren't going to just go along with what she's saying) and knocks it off. Or at least that's what happens with the kinds of girls I keep around.

I find it astonishing how many people nowadays seem to be in favor of prohibiting political parties, canceling elections, and even sometimes seem to be silently condoning political violence... all in the name of democracy! With justifications like "Because if we don't do it then the dictators will win"

As Plato notes, the end stage of democracy is always tyranny.

If you're currently living in a democracy, it is not a question of "will there be tyranny" but "which tyrant are you gonna get."

This is what you see with all the breakdowns occurring right now... different factions gearing up to support their preferred flavor of tyranny over the other.

As soon as mass democracy replaced republicanism in the West, the road to tyranny was inevitable.

Chase
 

Chase

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@justonemoreperson,

Lately I've gotten heavily invested in current US politics.

After 27 years on this Earth, living a life devoid of financial responsibility, for the first time I am financially forced to hold down a job so I can pay my rent.

If I can't make my rent money by May, I'll be homeless. I've checked out different lines of work, and came out of them angry and disgusted at how much employers want to take advantage of their workers, paying dogshit wages and begging for overtime. It just angers me. We are not people to these greedy sons of bitches.

It is not difficult to understand why many might seek change. Now more than ever the people feel the weight of the decisions from those in power. As civil unrest grows... so does the chance of a revolution. Only coordinated violent measures would truly change things. I would gladly participate as I believe the cause to be just, I have never been politically invested before this time around.

So even if you likely cannot control the future outcomes of our society, taking the time to understand how the world works and how that affects you, is something a man should be knowledgeable about imo.

Don't do anything dumb. Be cognizant of where you are.

Sudden crisis (going from "someone else pays all my bills" to "suddenly I have to pay my bills, but can't, and might be homeless") will screw you up. Survivors narrow their focus on what they need to do to get themselves out of that position. Non-survivors collapse into helplessness, blaming external circumstances, and get rolled by life.

We are far away from revolution in Western countries. The people are too fat, too sedentary, and too comfortable. No one wants to give up bougie restaurants and next-day delivery from Amazon for street fighting and jackboots. It's not at that point.

Will it get to that point at some point? Yeah possibly. But not until a much larger share of the populace is in much more pain.

Most of the people I see talking about not making ends meet/starving/etc. on social media posts are morbidly overweight. I don't know where they're getting all the food to maintain those enormous weights if they are starving, but somehow or other they're managing. Revolution happens when people can't manage anymore -- when everyone is skinny, dirty, and desperate, pushing wheelbarrows full of cash just to buy a loaf of bread. Even at that point of desperation, society usually limps on in that state for a lot longer than you'd think because revolutions are hard and scary (and often end up with tons of people dying, including many of the people who thought they were fighting for a better life -- they just end up fighting for a hole in the ground).

I'd suggest you turn off the politics; it's just making you helpless.


Focus on figuring out your own survival right now. That's where victory lies. Not in fretting over things out of your control that probably aren't going to really pop off for 10-20 more years or longer.

Chase
 

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When I have women I am in a relationship with venting about political positions I don't agree with, my default response is always, "Do you actually want to have a conversation about this or did you just want to vent?"

That's a fantastic response. Nothing like making her aware of herself!
 

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Most of the people I see talking about not making ends meet/starving/etc. on social media posts are morbidly overweight
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Future revolutionaries.
 

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I hear you bro, the European elites are glitching heavily right now. It's kinda funny to watch (hella bizarre too).
I not sure what you're referring to there but I'm certain that - percentage wise - there's more American elites (and polarisation of wealth) than European Elites. I assume you noticed how Bezos, Zuckerberg, etc, were seated in front of prominent politicians at the Trump inauguration. In the U.S the top 1% now own as much as the bottom 50%. It's not that extreme anywhere else in the west. And it's only getting worse. The words "health care" weren't mentioned once in Trump's inaugurational speech.
 

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I not sure what you're referring to there but I'm certain that - percentage wise - there's more American elites (and polarisation of wealth) than European Elites. I assume you noticed how Bezos, Zuckerberg, etc, were seated in front of prominent politicians at the Trump inauguration. In the U.S the top 1% now own as much as the bottom 50%. It's not that extreme anywhere else in the west. And it's only getting worse. The words "health care" weren't mentioned once in Trump's inaugurational speech.
i'm from europe mate. don’t get your knickers in a twist
 
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justonemoreperson

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Sudden crisis (going from "someone else pays all my bills" to "suddenly I have to pay my bills, but can't, and might be homeless") will screw you up. Survivors narrow their focus on what they need to do to get themselves out of that position. Non-survivors collapse into helplessness, blaming external circumstances, and get rolled by life.

Thanks Chase, I am working on it, victim mentality not gonna help me any.

Focus on figuring out your own survival right now. That's where victory lies. Not in fretting over things out of your control that probably aren't going to really pop off for 10-20 more years or longer.

Appreciate it. Will do. Already been searching desperately for work. I love that article you recommended I even bookmarked it once, looks like I need to re-read it.
 

justonemoreperson

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Thanks Chase, I am working on it, victim mentality not gonna help me any.



Appreciate it. Will do. Already been searching desperately for work. I love that article you recommended I even bookmarked it once, looks like I need to re-read it.

Just wanna give a little update, I finally found employment that I can see myself doing long-term. Not only is the starting wage higher than anything I've ever worked for before(with raises once I gain more skill), but the work environment is perfect. It's just me and another worker, building lightweight carbon fiber boats from scratch, one at a time. My boss is German and truly seems to respect work-life balance, with a focus on quality over rushing things which matches with the kind of person I am, and doesn't object to me blasting Rammstein on the speakers while we work ;). Building things is quite rewarding, gonna make the best of this.
 

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crazier here than ever before. While it used to be easy to ignore the more extreme political views, I am now seeing more and more political content that advocate things starting from prohibiting political parties up to "joking" insinuations of killing a certain very well known president.

While I'm used to ignore mainstream media (my thinking has always been that they are mostly financed by af very few wealthy entitites) and it's easy to block content like that on platforms like Facebook, it's now gone so far that I'm getting political memes even from close and distant relatives. It's getting harder and harder to ignore. Just today I got two separate messages from relatives, independently from each other. I don't want to block these people since they are my family, and just ignoring those messages doesn't seem like an ideal option either.
first, i love europe-- it's diversity of wonder. second i know exactly what you're talking about. i am from and live in america, so there's that and second i am in minnesota, so there is that. it's not even the position. i am too big to be flattened into a binary or even a slightly more complex situation. and anyways politics weighs lightly on the whole quality of life thing. money and sex weigh more heavily-- but politics distracts from them-- and not just for us but from people- from women even. i have a theory that is probably true, that political women are the least sexually or even personally fulfilled. And they are rampant.

I don't want europe to get diseased by this crap. eastern europe sounds better... i guess. there's politics, meta-politics, proto-politics, politics adjacent subjects, and there's good living. you can still think about it but yeah. don't let it govern but it's easier said than done. there is community, friendship, success in business and stuff. people are stupid.

it don't know but i think they don't have lives and they want to feel important so they join tribes and then it becomes a positive feedback loop but yeah, we need to get cultural not political. enjoy culture. enjoy sex. it's just like 1984 in that -- not in the political sense but in the fact that sex took the fall. sexuality and eroticism was one of the main victims of a culture of politics. sexuality and eroticism should be one of the main drivers of life. eros, pan, dionysus- they should be more present than they are and zeus and apollo besides and even ares (rage of battle) and athena (strategy of war)-- instead of postmodern political positions. It's all just token bullshit i think. here's my token. see me as good, as acceptable. token presentation bullshit for authentication- a lot like the internet actually. it's the modern circle jerk
 

archimedes

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Just wanna give a little update, I finally found employment that I can see myself doing long-term. Not only is the starting wage higher than anything I've ever worked for before(with raises once I gain more skill), but the work environment is perfect. It's just me and another worker, building lightweight carbon fiber boats from scratch, one at a time. My boss is German and truly seems to respect work-life balance, with a focus on quality over rushing things which matches with the kind of person I am, and doesn't object to me blasting Rammstein on the speakers while we work ;). Building things is quite rewarding, gonna make the best of this.
that's great. get a wage. enjoy it. enjoy work, excel at it and figure out how to acquire assets. whatever types, assets are freedom. no assets are unfreedom, dependence. assets are freedom. and then protect them. this is way beyond where you are now but i use trusts and llcs (american thing) to put my properties into which doesn't completely protect them but makes them both invisible in some sense and more difficult to get at--- friction friction friction. i know this is way ahead of where you're at but i'm showing you the next several steps over the next 5-20 years if you want to be even more free. the specific ways and means are different in different countries. don't let assets make you think you are winning though if you're not getting love and sex. What's even the point, if you don't have warm and wet love? And i don't even think the two are that correlated. bill gates is not that sexy. but yeah good on you mate!
 
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