How to stop hating women?

[Whiteheart]

I am frustrated, but honestly. In women’s’ eyes I am the same as the ugliest, fattest and unrelatable girl in men’s eyes. Only and only reason why women really don’t like is because I am considered as "good guy". I am not that good, and don’t supplicate much but simply due to my vibe from the time women look at me/or start talking with me they slot me in this category. Despite my work on all traits real men should have, it is not even close to get any chance with any girl. Literally.

The only way when there was some initial spark and receptiveness from girl was when I was dressed like typical abusive asshole and that interest would quickly vanish when they would talk to me.

Simply, women don’t like good guys. At least not for hook ups or casual relationships. There is that female excuse assholes are more masculine than good guys but it isn’t true. At least not in my case. However, what I have noticed is when girl perceive someone as good guy, she will intentionally look for his unattractive traits or reasons to disqualify him and when she perceives someone as jerk/asshole she will intentionally look for his masculine and attractive traits. Simply asshole with average masculinity will always be more attractive than good guy with greatest masculinity, regardless women lie it isn’t case.

Many times, girls would auto reject me/friend zone me/treat me like shit/act as pure saints from the time I open my mouth. Or I would approach and they would be stone cold and can’t even say hi and walk away. I always get "no spark" or "you remind me on my cousin" no matter what I do. Especially from girls who are in social value below me. I have that feeling that they want to take revenge on me for this, claiming that I am boring and unmasculine no matter what I do.

I survived wars, practice martial arts, have inspiring lifestyle, do the hardest job on planet and women still don’t feel anything for me. Just because I was born with some sense of justice, hard work and respect toward others it will cost me to spend my entire life being single and ignored by women.

Someone would tell me to look for Cinderella type of women, i.e. very soft, kind, genuine, educated and warm type of women. Well guess what, few times I interreacted with these women. One blocked me after 2-3 short, funny messages on fb and later wrote on some forum I am "sick man" because I should give up after first message. Because she is single, she probably has some lover and is worried he will stop fucking her if she replies on someone else text. Second one was entertained with interaction with me, wasted a lot of my enjoying in interaction and refused to go even on friend zoned date. Later I find out that she is in relationship with some jerk who isn’t as half similar to her as me but who is punk and acts as bumpkin. Third one offered me lifelong friend zone.

There is that @Chase advice "learn the game", "calibrate" or "don’t be bitter". Well, no game helped me with women and all attempts to calibrate were waste of time because she would just choose some asshole who is naturally similar to her. "Don’t be bitter" is like telling "don’t feel pain after serious injury". It is impossible.

These days when some woman tells me I am "good guy" it is insult for me. I got that genuine belief that women are assholes looking for assholes. This prevents me for further interaction with them, simply I auto reject every girl I see because I know that I am not what they are looking for. And the most of all it makes me to hate women. Yes, good guys can hate someone who has hurt them too.

Anyone, please help with some advice how to recover my mental peace!

 

[Troy]

Only and only reason why women really don’t like is because I am considered as "good guy". I am not that good, and don’t supplicate much but simply due to my vibe from the time women look at me/or start talking with me they slot me in this category.

Being a "good guy" is not a single reason that would cause women to not like you. Lets start with this. Can you honestly share with us some of your attractive traits? List them all below.

Here is why I say this. Years ago I thought I was an ugly guy to women. When I was in high school and girls kept telling me "you are cute Troy"... in the back of my head I was thinking "these girls are lying to me". I know its messed up. For years I thought I was ugly and unattractive to women, even when they were validating me left right and center.

Its only in the past 4+ years that I have gotten so many women telling me how good looking I am, that I finally started believing it. And since I have grown as a person I can now be honest with myself and embrace those attributes which make me attractive.

So I am sure there are things about you that make you attractive to women. List those and we will build from there.

The only way when there was some initial spark and receptiveness from girl was when I was dressed like typical abusive asshole and that interest would quickly vanish when they would talk to me.

Uhmm how do abusive asshole's dress? I have never heard this before. Another thing, why would you want to attract women who want to date abusive men?

Many times, girls would auto reject me/friend zone me/treat me like shit/act as pure saints from the time I open my mouth. Or I would approach and they would be stone cold and can’t even say hi and walk away. I always get "no spark" or "you remind me on my cousin" no matter what I do. Especially from girls who are in social value below me. I have that feeling that they want to take revenge on me for this, claiming that I am boring and unmasculine no matter what I do.

Im sorry to hear this man. I have been through a lot in my life as well. I could go on and on. You may even have seen my stories recently on the boards. But each day I wake up and keep fighting to get better. I hope you do the same.

There is that @Chase advice "learn the game", "calibrate" or "don’t be bitter". Well, no game helped me with women and all attempts to calibrate were waste of time because she would just choose some asshole who is naturally similar to her. "Don’t be bitter" is like telling "don’t feel pain after serious injury". It is impossible.

These days when some woman tells me I am "good guy" it is insult for me. I got that genuine belief that women are assholes looking for assholes. This prevents me for further interaction with them, simply I auto reject every girl I see because I know that I am not what they are looking for. And the most of all it makes me to hate women. Yes, good guys can hate someone who has hurt them too.

Anyone, please help with some advice!

Have you been writing field reports so we can understand exactly whats happening?

 

[Skjöldr]

You don't have to stop hating women. I cringe at women and take them 0% serious and i get laid.

 

[Toby2030]

You don't have to stop hating women. I cringe at women and take them 0% serious and i get laid.

probably not the best mindset lol

 

[climbingup]

You don't have to stop hating women. I cringe at women and take them 0% serious and i get laid.

Hate is a strong wrong.

If I may assume something, you take women 0% seriously. That would mean you're indifferent towards and they hold no emotional sway towards them. Which is rare compared to the average guy whose emotional state is completely dictated by whether an attractive woman validates/approves of them. Which is why I assume you get laid.

Someone who "hates" another person, means they hold a VERY strong emotional response towards another person. A negative one specifically to the point where it is probably a major focus of their lives. Hatred towards another person will always come out, no matter how one tries to hide it. To HATE women and then try to be successful with them, that's an almost impossible task. Maybe a master manipulator can pull it off but it will be extremely tough. A person who hates women will blow up/respond emotionally everytime he deems himself to have been slighted negatively. That level of strong negative emotion will cloud all his decisions and at times where he supposed to act calm, indifferent and unaffected, he will respond emotionally. He won't be able to make right decisions because his emotions would be so focused on hurting the woman in one way or another. He will blow up emotionally when he gets shit tested and make rash/bad decisions. Women will sense that emotional energy from a person and MOST women will run right away. There will be some women that will be attracted, women that have probably suffered abuse in their lives will be attracted to that energy. However the relationship will be a complete shitshow.

I don't take women seriously but I would say 95% of guys here don't hate women. I don't know maybe it's my definition. When someone says they hate person, it means they are dedicating themselves to destroying that person emotionally, physically, mentally or financially. Definitely not a way one should live their lives, in my opinion.

 

[Will_V]

I am frustrated, but honestly. In women’s’ eyes I am the same as the ugliest, fattest and unrelatable girl in men’s eyes. Only and only reason why women really don’t like is because I am considered as "good guy". I am not that good, and don’t supplicate much but simply due to my vibe from the time women look at me/or start talking with me they slot me in this category. Despite my work on all traits real men should have, it is not even close to get any chance with any girl. Literally.

The only way when there was some initial spark and receptiveness from girl was when I was dressed like typical abusive asshole and that interest would quickly vanish when they would talk to me.

Simply, women don’t like good guys. At least not for hook ups or casual relationships. There is that female excuse assholes are more masculine than good guys but it isn’t true. At least not in my case. However, what I have noticed is when girl perceive someone as good guy, she will intentionally look for his unattractive traits or reasons to disqualify him and when she perceives someone as jerk/asshole she will intentionally look for his masculine and attractive traits. Simply asshole with average masculinity will always be more attractive than good guy with greatest masculinity, regardless women lie it isn’t case.

Many times, girls would auto reject me/friend zone me/treat me like shit/act as pure saints from the time I open my mouth. Or I would approach and they would be stone cold and can’t even say hi and walk away. I always get "no spark" or "you remind me on my cousin" no matter what I do. Especially from girls who are in social value below me. I have that feeling that they want to take revenge on me for this, claiming that I am boring and unmasculine no matter what I do.

I survived wars, practice martial arts, have inspiring lifestyle, do the hardest job on planet and women still don’t feel anything for me. Just because I was born with some sense of justice, hard work and respect toward others it will cost me to spend my entire life being single and ignored by women.

Someone would tell me to look for Cinderella type of women, i.e. very soft, kind, genuine, educated and warm type of women. Well guess what, few times I interreacted with these women. One blocked me after 2-3 short, funny messages on fb and later wrote on some forum I am "sick man" because I should give up after first message. Because she is single, she probably has some lover and is worried he will stop fucking her if she replies on someone else text. Second one was entertained with interaction with me, wasted a lot of my enjoying in interaction and refused to go even on friend zoned date. Later I find out that she is in relationship with some jerk who isn’t as half similar to her as me but who is punk and acts as bumpkin. Third one offered me lifelong friend zone.

There is that @Chase advice "learn the game", "calibrate" or "don’t be bitter". Well, no game helped me with women and all attempts to calibrate were waste of time because she would just choose some asshole who is naturally similar to her. "Don’t be bitter" is like telling "don’t feel pain after serious injury". It is impossible.

These days when some woman tells me I am "good guy" it is insult for me. I got that genuine belief that women are assholes looking for assholes. This prevents me for further interaction with them, simply I auto reject every girl I see because I know that I am not what they are looking for. And the most of all it makes me to hate women. Yes, good guys can hate someone who has hurt them too.

Anyone, please help with some advice!

Women aren't rejecting you because you are a good guy. They reject you because you are needy and fearful of rejection.

You said yourself that women reject you before you can even say hi. How could that possibly be based on an assessment of your personality? It is based on your vibe, on how you carry yourself, your body language and presentation. All of that is a function of your internal frame and how you truly perceive yourself.

It is a myth that women hate nice guys. In fact they hate weakness, neediness, desperation, the inability to be adaptable and game for whatever life throws your way. The problem is that when guys want to hide these kinds of shortcomings, niceness is the usual way that they try to camouflage it. But if you are truly calm, self-controlled, relaxed, and unafraid, being a basically nice person is a virtue for everyone you meet.

It is also a myth that the pain caused by woman makes a man bitter. What makes a man bitter is his poor relationship with pain. Pain is nothing more than a message that you are doing something wrong.

Based on what you wrote, your pain comes from your sense of righteousness based on the fact that you think you are an exceptionally good guy who isn't getting what he deserves. Well, I don't know you, maybe you are a good guy, maybe you aren't, but in the context of women, you are no more good than the 'assholes' that are getting ahead of you - both of you want to bang some pussy. And neither of you deserves it - it is the one who is effective though who will get it.

Stop thinking of yourself as a good guy, it's not helping. You are simply someone who has not found an effective means of interacting with women, and by all accounts, it has everything to do with your internal frame and how you truly perceive yourself. Once you accept that you are not doing things right, that pain is reality's way of informing you of this, when you want to succeed enough to set aside your ego and learn from every mistake and rejection as if it were a gift from the greatest teacher to the most ambitious student, it will not be long before you get everything you want, and more.

 

[Whiteheart]

It is a myth that women hate nice guys. In fact they hate weakness, neediness, desperation, the inability to be adaptable and game for whatever life throws your way. The problem is that when guys want to hide these kinds of shortcomings, niceness is the usual way that they try to camouflage it. But if you are truly calm, self-controlled, relaxed, and unafraid, being a basically nice person is a virtue for everyone you meet.

This isn’t myth. Only time when nice (or good) guy gets women is when he has the same flaws, virtues and intellectual level as she (no matter how they are) so she sees herself in stable marriage with him so she gets over it that he isn’t attractive and still ends up with him.

I was watching other people. Do you know how many times I would see some kind and polite guy with acceptable game that gets brushed off by some chick just to see her later going home with some drunk asshole who didn’t game her at all.

 

[Whiteheart]

Women aren't rejecting you because you are a good guy. They reject you because you are needy and fearful of rejection.

You said yourself that women reject you before you can even say hi. How could that possibly be based on an assessment of your personality? It is based on your vibe, on how you carry yourself, your body language and presentation. All of that is a function of your internal frame and how you truly perceive yourself.

It is a myth that women hate nice guys. In fact they hate weakness, neediness, desperation, the inability to be adaptable and game for whatever life throws your way. The problem is that when guys want to hide these kinds of shortcomings, niceness is the usual way that they try to camouflage it. But if you are truly calm, self-controlled, relaxed, and unafraid, being a basically nice person is a virtue for everyone you meet.

It is also a myth that the pain caused by woman makes a man bitter. What makes a man bitter is his poor relationship with pain. Pain is nothing more than a message that you are doing something wrong.

Based on what you wrote, your pain comes from your sense of righteousness based on the fact that you think you are an exceptionally good guy who isn't getting what he deserves. Well, I don't know you, maybe you are a good guy, maybe you aren't, but in the context of women, you are no more good than the 'assholes' that are getting ahead of you - both of you want to bang some pussy. And neither of you deserves it - it is the one who is effective though who will get it.

Stop thinking of yourself as a good guy, it's not helping. You are simply someone who has not found an effective means of interacting with women, and by all accounts, it has everything to do with your internal frame and how you truly perceive yourself. Once you accept that you are not doing things right, that pain is reality's way of informing you of this, when you want to succeed enough to set aside your ego and learn from every mistake and rejection as if it were a gift from the greatest teacher to the most ambitious student, it will not be long before you get everything you want, and more.

Girls evaluate personality based on your vibe, on how you carry yourself, your body language and presentation. If that wasn’t a case I would have tones of women knocking on my doors every day based on my posture, fashion and confidence. Many times I got "soooo nice" or "such a great guy" from girl I spoke barely 1 sentence. Women are superficial and often wrongly misjudge someone’s personality.

All the times I hear and read female comments about men: "he is too good for me, I only go for jerks", "I meet two fantastic guys I immediately friend zoned", etc.

Son, I grow up in tough environment damaged by war, and everything in my life achieved by myself. I am not needy and desperate.

No matter how I think about myself and how much tear my balls to show women my masculinity it is never enough and I usually see how they go for someone who doesn’t game them at all but who is the same jerk as they.

You missed the point of thread. That standard advice, learn the game and accept all the female shit that comes along with improving doesn’t apply to me. I have done it for the past 10 years, and nothing changed in my relations with women. This isn’t how I will become better in game (this doesn’t help me anyway) but how to stop hating women because they are bitches looking for assholes and how to stay motivated to continue.

 

[Whiteheart]

Being a "good guy" is not a single reason that would cause women to not like you. Lets start with this. Can you honestly share with us some of your attractive traits? List them all below.

Here is why I say this. Years ago I thought I was an ugly guy to women. When I was in high school and girls kept telling me "you are cute Troy"... in the back of my head I was thinking "these girls are lying to me". I know its messed up. For years I thought I was ugly and unattractive to women, even when they were validating me left right and center.

Its only in the past 4+ years that I have gotten so many women telling me how good looking I am, that I finally started believing it. And since I have grown as a person I can now be honest with myself and embrace those attributes which make me attractive.

So I am sure there are things about you that make you attractive to women. List those and we will build from there.



Uhmm how do abusive asshole's dress? I have never heard this before. Another thing, why would you want to attract women who want to date abusive men?



Im sorry to hear this man. I have been through a lot in my life as well. I could go on and on. You may even have seen my stories recently on the boards. But each day I wake up and keep fighting to get better. I hope you do the same.


Have you been writing field reports so we can understand exactly whats happening?

Thanks man. On paper everything is fine with my "attractive" traits: confidence, dominance, flirting, humor and empathy (this one before I started to hate women). Also, I am good looking, successful career, etc. First qualities women seem to not notice because no matter what I do they are not interested. Second qualities are more disadvantages because women don’t find me attractive and when they hear about my social value, they hate me/are disinterested/try to hurt my feelings even more.

I was dressed as thugs in action movies. You watched it.

Field reports are more or less the same. We will interact, I will try to give my best at flirting, connection, body language, storytelling, vibe etc. and she will reject me for date. In most cases she will reject me immediately with "don’t have time"-"busy" excuse, won’t even accept proposal and then flake.

 

[Whiteheart]

You don't have to stop hating women. I cringe at women and take them 0% serious and i get laid.

Maybe this is the best advice. Persons as they are don’t deserve any good emotion. Can you please tell me how you stay motivated to interact with them when you know their bitchy nature? And how to develop mindset to not take women seriously?

It would help me. For example, yesterday, there was ideal situation for me to approach one girl but I couldn’t because I remembered all nasty treatment I got from women in past. This wasn’t approach anxiety I did hundreds of approaches before.

 

[Rakehell]

Sounds like you need some kind of mentor who can evaluate you in person. 10 years seems like a very long time to do something and not see any satisfactory results. I’d make nice with someone who seems attractive or charismatic and learn by osmosis, or hire someone who’ll objectively assess your character and the way you come off.

You can hate the nature of women and still do well with them so I doubt that’s your problem.

 

[DoWhatWorks]

@Blackheart If you genuinely want to improve and not just complain (I say this respectfully and without sarcasm)

The 3 articles you need to read and internalize > 1) What Women Want 2) Girls: Silly and Cute & 3) Genuine Man

Your understanding of female attraction is incomplete.

 

[Alpha13SC]

This isn’t myth. Only time when nice (or good) guy gets women is when he has the same flaws, virtues and intellectual level as she (no matter how they are) so she sees herself in stable marriage with him so she gets over it that he isn’t attractive and still ends up with him.

I was watching other people. Do you know how many times I would see some kind and polite guy with acceptable game that gets brushed off by some chick just to see her later going home with some drunk asshole who didn’t game her at all.

Girls evaluate personality based on your vibe, on how you carry yourself, your body language and presentation. If that wasn’t a case I would have tones of women knocking on my doors every day based on my posture, fashion and confidence. Many times I got "soooo nice" or "such a great guy" from girl I spoke barely 1 sentence. Women are superficial and often wrongly misjudge someone’s personality.

All the times I hear and read female comments about men: "he is too good for me, I only go for jerks", "I meet two fantastic guys I immediately friend zoned", etc.

Son, I grow up in tough environment damaged by war, and everything in my life achieved by myself. I am not needy and desperate.

No matter how I think about myself and how much tear my balls to show women my masculinity it is never enough and I usually see how they go for someone who doesn’t game them at all but who is the same jerk as they.

You missed the point of thread. That standard advice, learn the game and accept all the female shit that comes along with improving doesn’t apply to me. I have done it for the past 10 years, and nothing changed in my relations with women. This isn’t how I will become better in game (this doesn’t help me anyway) but how to stop hating women because they are bitches looking for assholes and how to stay motivated to continue.

So you ll come here with a problem, seek help from us, guys from here (who practice game with result) try to understand and help you and then you dismiss their oppinions?

What is your purpose? To write out some words or to genuine try to understand what are you doing wrong?

That hate you re feeling is a reaction to your environment and how is that making you to feel. You don t simply stop hating women. You change perspective over them. Take some responsibility over the fact that you're doing something wrong which causes your results.

Some people from here lived as well in harsh condition, some had the best of their lives till now. Yeah, it sucks sometimes, everybody has some of the worst situations, that you wouldn't believe. Even so, we're here to learn game and to get results.

Son, I grow up in tough environment damaged by war, and everything in my life achieved by myself. I am not needy and desperate.

You are for results. You're hiding your pain under hate. You can pull it of like that, but I don't think it will be the best thing for your soul.

And I m saying this because I ve been there, along with other guys from here I suppose. But you must be better than that.

@DoWhatWorks shared maybe the perfect articles for you.

Alpha13SC

 

[Whiteheart]

So you ll come here with a problem, seek help from us, guys from here (who practice game with result) try to understand and help you and then you dismiss their oppinions?

What is your purpose? To write out some words or to genuine try to understand what are you doing wrong?

That hate you re feeling is a reaction to your environment and how is that making you to feel. You don t simply stop hating women. You change perspective over them. Take some responsibility over the fact that you're doing something wrong which causes your results.

Some people from here lived as well in harsh condition, some had the best of their lives till now. Yeah, it sucks sometimes, everybody has some of the worst situations, that you wouldn't believe. Even so, we're here to learn game and to get results.


You are for results. You're hiding your pain under hate. You can pull it of like that, but I don't think it will be the best thing for your soul.

And I m saying this because I ve been there, along with other guys from here I suppose. But you must be better than that.

@DoWhatWorks shared maybe the perfect articles for you.

Alpha13SC

Thanks for advice and your time to write this. This time I am here just to see what is the best way to neutralize my hate and pain toward women. Not to seek advice what I do wrong. It is and was for some other posts. I don’t know what new I will hear:

To improve confidence – I have this already.

To be more emphatic and listening to women oriented – I was like this until started to be frustrated by these bitches.

To improve body language, fashion and posture – Perfect condition at me

To improve flirting skills – I have them good and sometimes really good

To improve lifestyle and be more upbeating, refreshing and fun to be around – I have this already

To stop watching pornography and masturbate – don’t watch anymore and masturbate occasionally

To be more calibrated – those assholes that women crave aren’t calibrated at all and women still date and sleep with them, much more than with good, calibrated and quality guys.

Point of my story is no matter how I will work on myself women will always rather choose some asshole with a half of these traits and be happier with him. Also, no matter how sexually attractive guy is if he has other qualities, he will be in boyfriend zone or even friend zone while some asshole will get sex without waiting and often without effort. And how to love these double-faced women.

 

[Whiteheart]

@Blackheart If you genuinely want to improve and not just complain (I say this respectfully and without sarcasm)

The 3 articles you need to read and internalize > 1) What Women Want 2) Girls: Silly and Cute & 3) Genuine Man

Your understanding of female attraction is incomplete.

Thanks a lot! I have already read all that articles. I also know for SAC and VAC models. Thing is that no matter what I do, majority of women (95%) don’t want anything with me and those who are somewhat similar want me as friend (real friend or other kinds of friend zone). Women want assholes and usually can’t find them, that is why they are lonely and frustrated. I need something to help me find mental peace and strength for continuing interactions with women, not things focused on improving my attractiveness because it will never be enough for women.

 

[trashKENNUT]

I have to be honest.

It is difficult. On one hand, the PUA community can't just dismiss you and say "you just got to try harder man". Because clearly, the world has changed.

The internet change it.
Covid put the fucking salt.
Tiktok just buries every guy.

I don't think that i can help you for now, if i am being honest at solving this issue at it's core. I can show you how to allow it to be, so that eventually you don't judge that feeling.

z@c+

 

[Alpha13SC]

Thanks for advice and your time to write this. This time I am here just to see what is the best way to neutralize my hate and pain toward women. Not to seek advice what I do wrong. It is and was for some other posts. I don’t know what new I will hear:

To improve confidence – I have this already.

To be more emphatic and listening to women oriented – I was like this until started to be frustrated by these bitches.

To improve body language, fashion and posture – Perfect condition at me

To improve flirting skills – I have them good and sometimes really good

To improve lifestyle and be more upbeating, refreshing and fun to be around – I have this already

To stop watching pornography and masturbate – don’t watch anymore and masturbate occasionally

To be more calibrated – those assholes that women crave aren’t calibrated at all and women still date and sleep with them, much more than with good, calibrated and quality guys.

Point of my story is no matter how I will work on myself women will always rather choose some asshole with a half of these traits and be happier with him. Also, no matter how sexually attractive guy is if he has other qualities, he will be in boyfriend zone or even friend zone while some asshole will get sex without waiting and often without effort. And how to love these double-faced women.

I think your problem is that you're not relaxed enough and you're not actually enjoying the time spent with women. Because from my point of view, that's the main thing, the process. The sex itself it s just merely the materialization of the act that begun from the first eye contact.

I read some of your past posts. You seem like a good man, trying to work through this life. For me, you're giving me a vibe that everything s a battle for you because of the thing you've been through. Even with women. You're not creating a fun, enjoying experience with them. You can't expect women to like you and give you the cookie just because you improved yourself and so on. Attraction is little bit different than that.

Your hate towards women will stop when you'll start to see the good things with them and get results. Otherwise you'll see them just some bad creatures. And the fact is that how you see them, that will be the reality for you.

Maybe share some conversations with them, or how your dates are to see how you can improve them.

Don't have the player. Neither the game.

Also, are you consuming some redpill/blackpill content?

If your next post will be about your hate and not about improving your game(not your person necessarily) I ll stop replying to this thread.

Alpha13SC

 

[DoWhatWorks]

Now I think you're potentially trolling but anyway... I've got a little time and you need to hear this

I need something to help me find mental peace and strength for continuing interactions

Easiest way is to have more enjoyable interactions as you'll begin to enjoy the process. Hell I speak to a friend about this 1 girl I approached who "rejected" me, more than a lot of my lays because the flirting dance was just so much damn fun.

To be more emphatic and listening to women oriented – I was like this until

So you are not empathetic or good at listening to women. This is part of the reason you don't have fun man-to-woman interactions.

Best believe new girls are picking up on this negative "girls only want assholes and I'm not one" energy.

A good way to "neutralise hate" is to empathize with female challenges. I go into some here

To improve body language, fashion and posture – Perfect condition at me

Lol your fundementals aren't "perfect" otherwise you wouldn't be getting these reactions >>>

Many times, girls would auto reject me/friend zone me/treat me like shit/act as pure saints from the time I open my mouth

I have already read all that articles

You must of read the articles with your eyes closed lol . Re-read them as you didn't understand it if you're saying this >>>

Women want assholes and usually can’t find them, that is why they are lonely and frustrated

To recap:

1. Learn girls challenges to neutralise hate
2. Re-read the articles I recommended (you haven't understood them)
3. Be more fun with your interactions (the world doesn't owe you understanding or care about your past problems)

Lastly I will do the same as @Alpha13SC >>>

If your next post will be about your hate and not about improving your game(not your person necessarily) I ll stop replying to this thread.

 

[Skills]

In the op you are confusing good guy which are most seducers with the typical nice guy... women often tell me I am the best guy they ever dated... good guy is attractive as long as with boundaries.... the nice guy is repulsive to women

 

[Whiteheart]

I think your problem is that you're not relaxed enough and you're not actually enjoying the time spent with women. Because from my point of view, that's the main thing, the process. The sex itself it s just merely the materialization of the act that begun from the first eye contact.

I read some of your past posts. You seem like a good man, trying to work through this life. For me, you're giving me a vibe that everything s a battle for you because of the thing you've been through. Even with women. You're not creating a fun, enjoying experience with them. You can't expect women to like you and give you the cookie just because you improved yourself and so on. Attraction is little bit different than that.

Your hate towards women will stop when you'll start to see the good things with them and get results. Otherwise you'll see them just some bad creatures. And the fact is that how you see them, that will be the reality for you.

Maybe share some conversations with them, or how your dates are to see how you can improve them.

Don't have the player. Neither the game.

Also, are you consuming some redpill/blackpill content?

If your next post will be about your hate and not about improving your game(not your person necessarily) I ll stop replying to this thread.

Alpha13SC

Thanks again for your will to teach me. I will write about game as you required. I have studied (nearly) everything about seduction what I could find on internet. Name it. Thing is that none of seduction material gave me results.

About dating experience. I don’t get dates. Majority of girls I meet through social circle would friend zone me and those I meet through cold approach would friend zone me or be cold and distant or different form of bitch.

Also, some more experienced men, like you, advised me to be more relaxed, fun and through that create exciting atmosphere for women. Still, even that didn’t give me real results i.e. girls would be entertained and still would reject me when time comes for date or even simplest instant date. If we are on date (almost all dates I got, and that is only few in my life, were through online where girls didn’t really know me), she would be entertained, spend hours with me and in the end (or on point when we have the most enjoying experience) would tell me how such a great friend I am. Later, if I wanted to be something more, she would openly tell she "doesn’t fell spark" and "how boring and unmasculine I am".

@Chase once told me that my major problem with women is dissimilarity. And it could explain why there is such a repel of women toward me.

These days I am natural toward women. Also, some more experience men advised me to try this if anything other didn’t work. We will see how it will go. I will write you more tomorrow, if you have time to read. Tonight I am slightly tired and maybe have missed something important to tell.