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How would you become a top 20% man in 24 hours?

DoWhatWorks

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I said my last post would be my last post (for a while) but to hell with it - I've earned myself a break.

This thought experiment is inspired by Vision's "Do you think dating is more difficult for men or woman" post

I won't derail this thread but the overall conclusion was - if you're above average, dating is relatively easy and enjoyable.

Naturally some newer people shared it's not that easy and the more advanced struggled to empathise and more or less said "stop moaning and get to work".

As the solution orientated person I am, to bridge the gap - let's post 3 easy changes that make a big difference in getting girls and appearing a "top 20% man" that anyone can do within 24 hours.

Before the objection comes - this is absolutely faking it until you make it and a lot us did before we got traction and got consistent success. This is also just a starting point we obviously have more than 24 hours to self improve.

I'll go first:

1. I would get a haircut and buy clothes that fit me well and look "mainstream cool"

Explanation: most guys dress like absolute shit. Literally if your trousers don't cover your shoes and you've shaved your neck hair that would set you apart. Bonus points if you cut your nails too. The standard is so low it's not hard to stand out. Another trap I see people fall into is try too hard to be edgy and "different". If you don't know what you're doing just copy the "mainstream". I.E what everyone seems to be wearing and just make sure it fits you well. This doesn't even need to be tailored just spend more time trying clothes until you get something "right".

2. Make sure you smell good

Explanation: This does fucking wonders. I swear by creed aventus but if you're on a budget go to a Zara or Abercombie & Fitch and ask a girl rep to give you the best seller. A life hack is I buy samples of expensive cologne that I only wear out on dates. While have a cheaper cologne as my "day to day". I went in deep with this but you don't have to. Just make sure you shower before dates and smell good. Again this will set you apart. I've had multiple sincere compliments from girls on dates appreciating how I smell - the standard is so low it's embarrassing.

3. Talk to many women

Explanation: I'll leave this one here. Vast majority of guys just don't put in the numbers. This consistently separates those who get laid and those who get lucky. None of this "I've been working on this girl for 4 months bullshit" 4 girls a day for a month is more than enough to put you in a good place. Regardless of the medium.


That's me done - what are your 3 tweaks?


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Darius

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1. Don't take shit from nobody
Honestly any guy out there with self esteem issues, 99% of the time it boils down to this. Fake it till you make it and assume you're hot shit, even if you're not. And if someone steps on your toes put him in place. This alone does wonders for your confidence.

2. Know what you want and don't be afraid of it
Obviously don't tell girls you wanna shag them up front, but you should know what you want out of every relationship and work toward it. You want to hang out with the cool guy in school? Good, go to some class together and strike up a conversation with him. Some girl you're interested in romantically wants to friendzone you? No, you'll escalate until she accepts it or leaves, because that is what you wish from her.

3. Build people up
Once you start taking leadership of your relationships, you'll find that people just instinctively let you lead and put you in a position of power. This is the time to shine. Build them up, support them, fill their needs, make them happy. Be the good and caring leader, and your value will explode beyond your imagination.

Darius
 

Beck Bass

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I won't derail this thread but the overall conclusion was - if you're above average, dating is relatively easy and enjoyable.
This topic really turned into some serious cancer, as I worried it would. I can't see why someone that's just "above average" would find dating "relatively easy and enjoyable". First, someone that is above average probably is there because of him own efforts, so of course he starts to long for some better sucess, but dating is a game of asymmetric returns. Many guys that just get into that "slight above average" soon get mad for not getting better results right away. Also, confort breeds weakness, you get great sucess one week, then you just feel like the king of the world, you take a week off, and when you're back, you can't even remember why you were good, how you got what you got; worse, now you feel like you're expected to get results, but you're not doing that great anymore, so it stings even more. Being above average is not such a thing, you have to keep yourself above average to see any lasting sucess, and that takes lots of effort, hence why most people just don't.
(lol I got a bit carried away, but still, careful with taking conclusions from some lame pool someone puts on a forum on the internet for his own personal reasons)

As for the topic itself:
1: Believe you're an attractive man, with lots to offer a woman;
2: Get in touch with your love for women, amplify it as much as possible, so you truly are someone with lots to offer a woman;
3: Just go for it, approach girls, ask them out, take them on dates, kiss them, make love to them, and don't expect anything in return, don't take rejection personally, and just have a good time :D

Ok, this maybe not really doable in a day, but I think those are the mindsets that really make the difference. There's no magic pill that will make you great with woman in a day, but if you truly love them, they will love you back

Ciao
 

ocean_eyes

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1: Believe you're an attractive man, with lots to offer a woman;
2: Get in touch with your love for women, amplify it as much as possible, so you truly are someone with lots to offer a woman;
3: Just go for it, approach girls, ask them out, take them on dates, kiss them, make love to them, and don't expect anything in return, don't take rejection personally, and just have a good time :D
It's important to realize, here on the boards, we can frame the same thing 30 different ways.
I believe thinking about PU in this manner (as described above) is one of the healthiest ways you can frame it for yourself :)

( "Healthy:" it will offer the most win-win interactions between you and women assuming you get laid and fuck them well.)
 

foggy

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learn gunwitch method
read up on the greats on these forums
implement everything immediately

you'll have the fundamentals down. the other 80% of guys won't even come close
 
you miss 100% of the shots you don't take

ulrich

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You don’t.
Sorry to break the bubble but I really don’t think you can become “top 20%” in just 24 hours by just faking it.

Seduction has a lot of internalization and calibration that simply can’t be learned in a matter of months, let alone days.

There are some adaptions to your mental models, your identity and your perception of how the world works that your mind will resist them until it experiences them enough times.

Sometimes I have stumbled upon the perfect piece of advice I needed at a given moment and it took me months to actually understand it and apply it correctly.
I thought I got it at first, but I was just scratching the surface.

Your mind takes time to adapt to new paradigms. It’s hard to speed those up with anything other than exposure.
 

Will_V

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You don’t.
Sorry to break the bubble but I really don’t think you can become “top 20%” in just 24 hours by just faking it.

Seduction has a lot of internalization and calibration that simply can’t be learned in a matter of months, let alone days.

There are some adaptions to your mental models, your identity and your perception of how the world works that your mind will resist them until it experiences them enough times.

Sometimes I have stumbled upon the perfect piece of advice I needed at a given moment and it took me months to actually understand it and apply it correctly.
I thought I got it at first, but I was just scratching the surface.

Your mind takes time to adapt to new paradigms. It’s hard to speed those up with anything other than exposure.
I couldn't agree more.

I know for a fact that you can look like a bum and cruise through seductions, and be all dressed up and steer women right in the other direction. Because women are designed to smell out what's really underneath a man's shell, in ways that men can hardly even understand.

You can't become a top 20% dancer in 24 hours. You can't become a top 20% pianist in 24 hours. You couldn't even become a top 20% student of these things in 24 hours - and this is probably even more important.

If I had to pick three things you can (to some extent anyway) do in a day, it would be these:

1. Wear something that makes you feel good and is broadly considered fashionable. Haircut too.

2. Don't go out to get numbers. Go out to be around women, to enjoy the simple fact that they are there, and to express that pleasure to them. Their rejection cannot change your enjoyment of them, because you did not need their approval to feel it in the first place.

3. Enjoy everything. Enjoy the wins, as if they belong to you. Enjoy the rejections (and don't ignore the pain, relish it as if it were the deepest expression of your inner drive). Remember, this is something you want to do, an expression of love and desire, not an act of desperation.

In short, make it about you, not her. A woman wants a winner, not someone who can only win her.
 

Velasco

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24 hours to get top 20% man results?
1). Buy ticket to sexually liberated city.
2). set yourself up with good logistics to prime area via Airbnb.
3). Do 3 tweaks suggested by @DoWhatWorks
 
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