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Skjöldr

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Field report
My memory span grows shorter and shorter for every approach ahaha. But we were crossing the road on Saturday late afternoon in the city. Long blonde hair and a very big ass. Her dress was green. She was a bulky looking girl too, not chubby, just solidly built. Around 5'11 tall. We make it across and i give my direct opener. "Hey, i know this is a lil random, but i think you look cute. What's your name?" And then i get into the conversation. On that particular day i actually had some really good intereactions. Very playful and teasy with push/pull, roleplaying, stacking assumptions etc. My mistakes in the past are that i jump straight to building rapport/getting to know eachother bit, instead of ramping up her attraction and intrigue which makes her hit the hook point. For an example, i will ask her what she's doing out today and then i will get into this really playful and teasy thing which hooks her and then she starts investing in me, asking me what i'm doing out today etc. I number close her and message her in person "Who's that handsome fellow you're chatting with?" And tells her, there you have my number and i head off.

Her 5 minutes later "I think his name is Peter, should i go on a date with him? *flower emoji*"
Me half an hour later: "Bingo! But i'm not sure he's the type who dates... Do you like horses?" (I live close to horses and my MO is usually to take girls for a walk in the area of my place, Plan B is a nearby park.)
Her:"Actually i'm allergic to horses haha. Oh, so he doesn't date?"
Her 7 minutes later: "What does that mean? *flower emoji*"
Her 40 minutes later: "I can do friday night or saturday next week?"

Suffice to say she had high interest level. We texted back and forth, eventually we got around to me being old school and so i said i said hell yeah i'm old school, i'm an forever young vampire born in 1841, you better watch out! We eventually agreed to meet in the park at 19.30 on Tuesday.


Lay report
Me: "You walking there or on your bike?" (wanted to know if i should walk or drive my bike myself, and minor side effect was that it would flake check her, but that was unthinkable anyways and i don't confirm dates normally)
Her: "Bike :)"
Me: "Okay cool"
Her: "I'm expecting you to arrive on a white stallion"
Me: "I am the white stallion"
I lean back against a park bench checking out the lake, looking like a boss. She eventually comes around from the back and greets me. I get up slowly and hug her. Then we just small talk a bit and walk off. I honestly can't remember for shit what we talked about, it was one of those where you just get sucked into the moment and tease and roleplay and push pull and stuff. She said she studies psychology so i say she can read my mind and that people who pick psychology do it because they are crazy themselves and wanna sort their shit out. Stuff like that. She eventually got around to asking for my age. She started at 24, i said close enough, then she moved to 25 and 26 (i'm 20). I drove her nuts because i smoothly changed topics whenever i told her close enough and said she had good intuition. I led the whole way through saying "this way" "We are going over here" etc., leading her confidently. I master the location so like clockwork the first bench when we came over a river bridge was taken so she said "Oh oh, your plans got messed up" And i said look, and there was a bench 70 yards further down the road. She simply followed my lead. Till then i had been doing incidental touch. It's good to start early. I let her sit down first, so i can plunk down close to her. I slowly made my way through escalating to having my arm behind her back and stroking her arms. No problem. It's my MO. We started talking about some of the furniture i had made on my school courses and about art, because my room is plastered with art pieces. You know, seeding a pull. Then she said "Can i see?" And i said "Sure, i live close, let's go check it out" And the boldness of that statement made her giggle and she was like "Uhhh" and i said "Come on let's go" and she got up and we started walking and she said "I don't go home with guys on the first date/meet". My snappy comeback was instantenous. "No problem, you go back to the lakeside ice cream shop where we came from and i will take a quick walk around the lake and meet you there and it will be our second meet" With a cocky smirk and i just kept walking and she followed me and i guess she found it funny enough, because we basically just went back to our bikes and rode back to my place. I ofc keep her mind busy to not overthink things, so i just change topics and whatever. We get inside, i say here's the bathroom, which i'm gonna use right now, but you can just take a look around. I take a piss and get back out.

She's looking at some of my paintings. "You want a glass of soda?" She accepts. I tell her to come sit in the sofa and we sip our cokes. From my sofa you can see one of my walls with like 11-12 paintings. I ask her which one she likes the best. I have my arm around her and stroking her shoulder. She tells me which one she likes the best and asks me. I grab her hair and pull her head down so she can look at the painting behind her head."That one" I say. Then we talk about random stuff. Good thing to do is show girls things on your phone, good excuse to move close. I show her a funny picture of me with some animals, because it looks like we have the same haircut. Now we are sitting super close. I forgot to add that at some point while we sat in the sofa she got up and took her shoulder purse and sweater off and put her soda on the table. She said she was warm. Anyways, i go for the kiss and she just grabs my head and kisses me back really hard. We went straight from zero to french kissing. Sucking my lips and shit. I pull back first and smile at her and go back in. I tell her to sit on my lap. She does. She's now sitting on my lap, eating eachother's faces out. I slip my hands under her dress from behind to open her bra. She says we aren't gonna do it. I smile at her like "riiiiigh...." and then go back to kissing her. Then i say "hold on tight" and before she can say "wh what" i just grab her and lift her up and throw her on the bed. She was a big girl. Probably 180-200 pounds wouldnt surprise me. I'm strong so it doesn't matter. We make out and i try pulling her shirt off. She smiles and says no. I go back to kissing her while grinding against her crotch, forcing body down on hers. I try again she says no again. I kiss and grind and turn her on. She's moaning alot. I squish her tits and take my own shirt off. I grab her thighs and put my hand under my hard penis while grinding against her so she can feel it. I pull her shirt off and this time she assists me. It's game on. I unstrap her bra. I lick and pull and twist her nipples while kissing her. I pull off her stockings and shorts and panties in one pull. She is entirely naked now. Super turned on she pulls me against her while i grind. I take the rest of my clothes off. Now i'm on top of her, naked and grinding and making out. She asks if i have a condom. "Silly you, what do you think this little flashlight box is for? The girls never see it coming" and i open it up, filled with condoms. The box is on my bed table. I put condom on and slip my fingers inside her. Soaking wet. I insert my dick and yep, we have sex for a long time. I finish with her big ass in my face in 69 while she jerks and sucks me off. I blow my load in her mouth, no condom. We cuddle for a fair bit and takes a cold shower together.

"When did you decide to scratch the funny rulebook and go with your heart instead?"
"Idk, i guess i'm just naive"
"Well it's good you follow your desires and not some silly rulebook"
"Yeah you're right"

We chill out together. The hour is late. Have to get up early for work. Just fuck my sleep up bro. Doesn't matter, had sex. I smack her ass and sends her on her way and go to sleep.


EDIT: I told her my age right before i pulled her shirt off in bed. I stopped kissing her and looked at her and she said "How old are you" and i said "24" and i said "You deserved it now". Yep lied hard there. She's 23 and i was juuust about to tell her my real age but i decided not to. Maybe i will tell her in time.
 

Skills

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Tears coming down my eyes you sound like a young skills. "Who is that good looking guy you are talking to" I wonder were you got that from, very nice physical game and playful come backs to overcome objections
 

Skjöldr

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Now...
I told this girl i'm 24 (i'm 20) and she told me she's 23. I'm going to her place on Friday. She's gonna cook dinner and i'm gonna bring some dessert.

Should i tell her here now on our second meet that i'm actually 20 and not 23? Should i wait till we have fucked more times? Should i keep silent with it our whole relationship through if necessary? It would be nice to get it out. And if she accepts that i'm 20 with no big deal, then that would stroke my ego a bit too hehe.
 

Skjöldr

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Tears coming down my eyes you sound like a young skills. "Who is that good looking guy you are talking to" I wonder were you got that from, very nice physical game and playful come backs to overcome objections
I appreciate it man!
 

Velasco

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wait till we have fucked more times
ya wait till she's hooked/addicted to you. And even if she finds out herself at this stage in the relationship (10+ separate meet&bangs), they wont care as long as your bullshit game is tight ("I didn't think you'd like me if I told you my real age :( " her: what are you talking about? Idk care how old you are (bullshit). I like you for you. you shouldn't have lied to me" Then feed that bullshit with, "I fucking knew I should have trusted my instincts that you weren't like all the other girls who judge me for my age. I should have just been honest with you from the start. I hate liars. But I can understand if you don't want to ever see me again for lying to you" and then she will forgive you (it was just an honest mistake....and she is addicted afterall ;) ) then you give her a warm hug :)...then everything's gucci again :cool:

As you can see having a PhD in bullshit is very useful for LTRs :)
 

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Now...
I told this girl i'm 24 (i'm 20) and she told me she's 23. I'm going to her place on Friday. She's gonna cook dinner and i'm gonna bring some dessert.

Should i tell her here now on our second meet that i'm actually 20 and not 23? Should i wait till we have fucked more times? Should i keep silent with it our whole relationship through if necessary? It would be nice to get it out. And if she accepts that i'm 20 with no big deal, then that would stroke my ego a bit too hehe.
You could frame it like this if you really wanted to.

she says oh so you’re 24 right?
You: no I’m 17 don’t tell my mom I’m here okay?!
Her: shut up your 24 right??
You: okay where are the hidden cameras Chris Hanson come out hahaha
Her: omg

then you either tell her or keepfuckin around lmao.

You: who told you that? I’m 20 now anyways and then change the topic

otherwise if you don’t plan on being serious with her and not seeing her again itdoesn’t matter but I’m always an advocate for telling the truth!
 

cruiser

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ya wait till she's hooked/addicted to you. And even if she finds out herself at this stage in the relationship (10+ separate meet&bangs), they wont care as long as your bullshit game is tight ("I didn't think you'd like me if I told you my real age :( " her: what are you talking about? Idk care how old you are (bullshit). I like you for you. you shouldn't have lied to me" Then feed that bullshit with, "I fucking knew I should have trusted my instincts that you weren't like all the other girls who judge me for my age. I should have just been honest with you from the start. I hate liars. But I can understand if you don't want to ever see me again for lying to you" and then she will forgive you (it was just an honest mistake....and she is addicted afterall ;) ) then you give her a warm hug :)...then everything's gucci again :cool:

As you can see having a PhD in bullshit is very useful for LTRs :)
BS GAME YES ITS SO FUN but more jokingly I would go not make it a big deal
 
the right date makes getting her back home a piece of cake

Skjöldr

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ya wait till she's hooked/addicted to you. And even if she finds out herself at this stage in the relationship (10+ separate meet&bangs), they wont care as long as your bullshit game is tight ("I didn't think you'd like me if I told you my real age :( " her: what are you talking about? Idk care how old you are (bullshit). I like you for you. you shouldn't have lied to me" Then feed that bullshit with, "I fucking knew I should have trusted my instincts that you weren't like all the other girls who judge me for my age. I should have just been honest with you from the start. I hate liars. But I can understand if you don't want to ever see me again for lying to you" and then she will forgive you (it was just an honest mistake....and she is addicted afterall ;) ) then you give her a warm hug :)...then everything's gucci again :cool:

As you can see having a PhD in bullshit is very useful for LTRs :)
The more i wait, the deeper i dig my grave, or no? Isn't it likely that the longer i wait, the longer we fuck, the more pissed she will be when she finds out? She will wonder what else i've lied about. Also my story won't make sense. She will wonder what i did all those 4 years i never lived haha. One lie will lead to the other.
 

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The more i wait, the deeper i dig my grave, or no? Isn't it likely that the longer i wait, the longer we fuck, the more pissed she will be when she finds out?
No. Things I've lied about: where I live, my job, my name. I've been caught using a fake name twice (once like I said before by blacking out at a girls places, who digged through my wallet and found my real name, where I really lived, and another time i was showing this chick my playlist on YouTube, which had my name listed underneath the videos), and guess what? They continued to see me (they didnt confront me about it. But they knew). Even continued to call me by my fake name. You really underestimate the power of female addiction lol.
my story won't make sense. She will wonder what i did all those 4 years i never lived haha
Again she wont. You're speculating. She wants stories, perspectives. At 20 years old, you've already picked up enough life experience and gained perspective on life, female psychology/dynamics etc, that you can easily pass off as 24 years of age without anyone questioning it.
One lie will lead to the other.
Now how you prolong a lie, until you reach that point where shes addicted to you and will no longer care about that lie, is you have a ready story for it, then you change the subject. And keep talking about that subject until shes completely forgotten about the "lie subject".

I.e. she asks why your still in college getting your bachelors degree if ur 24? You took a couple years off to work/travel. Change subject. If she asks where you traveled to, then pick any country you've ever visited. Done.

I joked about having a PhD in bullshit, but it's kinda true tho. I picked up bullshitting growing up with my mom, so it comes naturally to me. And a lot of pickup is bullshitting girls, so this hobby was very easy to pick up (no pun intended lol).
 
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Skjöldr

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No. Things I've lied about: where I live, my job, my name. I've been caught using a fake name twice (once like I said before by blacking out at a girls places, who digged through my wallet and found my real name, where I really lived, and another time i was showing this chick my playlist on YouTube, which had my name listed underneath the videos), and guess what? They continued to see me (they didnt confront me about it. But they knew). Even continued to call me by my fake name. You really underestimate the power of female addiction lol.

Again she wont. You're speculating. She wants stories, perspectives. At 20 years old, you've already picked up enough life experience and gained perspective on life, female psychology/dynamics etc, that you can easily pass off as 24 years of age without anyone questioning it.

Now how you prolong a lie, until you reach that point where shes addicted to you and will no longer care about that lie, is you have a ready story for it, then you change the subject. And keep talking about that subject until shes completely forgotten about the "lie subject".

I.e. she asks why your still in college getting your bachelors degree if ur 24? You took a couple years off to work/travel. Change subject. If she asks where you traveled to, then pick any country you've ever visited. Done.

I joked about having a PhD in bullshit, but it's kinda true tho. I picked up bullshitting growing up with my mom, so it comes naturally to me. And a lot of pickup is bullshitting girls, so this hobby was very easy to pick up (no pun intended lol).
Alright, i will experiment with dragging it out as much as possible.

Heartiste writes:

The effectiveness will depend to an extent on how invested in you she has become. If you later reveal your real age with an insouciant disregard for her potential outrage, her ability and willingness to forgive and forget will be directly proportional to the love, or lust, she feels for you. You can do this with a lot of conventionally perceived mate value negatives that may deep-six a courtship before it has had a chance to get off the ground. Strategically omit any facts about yourself that you suspect deviate from her “Mr. Right checklist” until a later time when her 463 bullet point checklist has surrendered to her one bullet point vagina tingle.
 
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Derek da man

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Now...
I told this girl i'm 24
Question is do you want LTR or just casual. If LTR then the sooner the better, if casual then wait as long as possible.
 

cruiser

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"you thought I was 24? I said I was 20 for 6 months now"
honestly, this is the way to go. What if you end up actually liking this girl and she wants you to buy alch or wine LMAO.

You're framing it as you were never lying. You're framing it as its been no big deal this whole time. Cool calm collected its no biggie fam.
 

Skjöldr

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Update:
Told me her real age tonight. She didn't care, we ate dinner, fucked and watched movie. Totally cool with it. Basically she was asking when my parents had their first born and asked how old they were and then if my sister was older or younger sister and i started tripping while she smiled at me and i realized the jig was up. Apparently she checked my dad out on facebook too. Curious bitches. 2nd happening recently. So i told her i'm 20 instead of 24. She will make a good fuckbuddy. Sleeping at her place.
 

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Ain't good at math when i'm looking at a hot girl aight
 

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Update 2:
Got a text 20 minutes ago.
"Hey Peter, it was nice to see you, but i could feel this morning, that it wasn't really there for me. Sorry for having wasted your time :/"
I'm thinking writing "Hey Name, no need to apologize! It's a shame you feel that way :/ If you change your mind, you know where to find me :)"
 

Skjöldr

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reminds me of this
only its with finding out ur age
Ya honestly idk if it was because of my age or what it was. Because i revealed my age early on the meet. Like within 20 minutes and had hot sex and spent the evening and night together and had breakfast together. Women make decisions based on emotions and right now her emotions tell her she isn't feeling it for me, so she made a decision that she doesn't wanna see me. When the text dropped i got a heavy heart for a second but then i was unfazed. I can't really figure out what it was i did wrong. Probably didn't do anything wrong, the chemistry just wasn't there for her this morning. I just messaged her a thumbs up and a vampire emoji and then a text right after "Take care :)" and she instantenously sent me back "you too :)". Now i either have a cake baking in the oven and she will reach out over time or she won't. I'm just gonna walk and not look back now and generate new leads. Still had 2x sex with her so still good result.
 
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