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Cold approach (Sat 031020)
This was my first number close of this outing. Probably the 1st or 2nd approach.
This conversation was only 2-3 mins
She was sitting at a bus stop and I just walked over to her and used the "u dress confidently opener" and then we actually have quite a horrible and wierd conversation.
Full of one-liners and things I couldn't quite connect with like how she owns pets and usually likes to eat sweet things
But I had social momentum, so I was completely nonchalant and unfazed by the fact that we had trouble connecting. And I even said to her it was getting wierd
She kept giggling throughout the awkward conversation. I start to ask her whether she likes coffee or tea or etc when her bus starts approaching.
Her bus arrives and she tells me that it is arriving and she asks me
I say:
Texting
Sat:
The girl
This girl is from my city and on the 1-10 scale I would say she's 6-7. She's quite insecure about getting seduced and then thrown away (at least that's what I think it is)
She's 25 years old. She has a really dull resting face very she's not talking abouthte things she's excited about. She gets excited when talking about sweet things to eat, Disney/Disneyland,
pets, and other cute objects/things. She's a social media client-relations manager for a company. She's the older of 2 sisters in her family with her not really liking her younger sister.
On the date, she came in a slightly-above knee length skirt and conservative looking top.
Logistics
Location (It's always the same): A cluster of three vertical air-conditioned malls that are connected to each other on the ground floor, wide and busy underground pathways, and link bridges on the upper floors. There are rooftops, quiet coffee shops, garages located across these 3 malls Seduction location: One of these 3 malls is quieter than the rest. I park my car in a very secluded parking lot in the carpark that is located at the top of this quieter mall
My date-and-pull process is: Move her around as much as possible throughout the date and try to build compliance but don't wait too long to pull. Usually there aren't many interesting places to take my dates on in the mall above which I've parked my car so the pull usually involves bringing her from a different mall into the one above which I've parked my car.
The rest of this paragraph still describes a public space: Then we'll walk to a lift lobby that can be accessed from any floor of that mall. Take the lift up to the carpark. Make quite a quiet walk to my car. I.e. past many empty parking lots because I've picked the one right at the corner of the building's architecture. I'll turn on my engine. And get her to sit in the back with me
The car itself: I've got sunshades and ways of preventing people from seeing into my car more or less 90% so the only giveaway would be some form of springing up and down of the car on its wheels which is not a problem given the parking lot is very secluded.
I may come up with some kind of backup logistic where I can lead a girl to a private hallway or stairwell. But for now, that does not exist. It's the car or nothing.
About me
I am a 21/22 year old virgin.
At the time of my posting of this field report, it has been almost 6 months since I started going out regularly to do cold approach. I've never gone out to do night game thus far since that 6 month start mark.
Mainly because nightclubs and bars are still closed/safe-distancing. So far it has purely been daygame for me
U can check out my current journal at: https://www.skilledseducer.com/threads/ys-journal-revamped.23563/
... where I document more of my learning process and commitment
This is the 7th girl I've gone on a date with from cold approach and the 2nd time I've pulled (counting from the 1st time when I had the above logistics). I've never had a second date before. I managed to get an FR++ to the backseat of my car on my 2nd date.
What I tell my dates my identity is (100% false):
I use my real name but say I'm a small-time 25 year old actor who teaches acting at a small time studio. I was initially in college studying science but then dropped out of college cos I'm too dumb for it.
The date (Mon 051020) (Duration: 4hrs. Before seduction location: 2hrs. At seduction location: 2hrs.)
The meeting place and transition to restaurant
We met at first floor of mall, and walked to 2nd floor restaurant together
The restaurant
We sit opposite each other.
The conversation between us was actually really horrible initially and I felt that this was another date that was gonna go nowhere. We have a horrible conversation for 30 minutes.
Sometimes it's just her asking me questions and me lying to her about the answers (I don't give her my real identity)
Sometimes it's me asking her questions, and her giving one-lined answers.
We talked briefly about her family, her dog, shared some opinions. very shallow-level conversation
It feels as though she's evaluating me in a very boring and dead way to which I'm not very excited by. At a certain point in time, she asks me some question about whether I'm sure/unsure about something I want to do (can't remember what this is)
And I simply pretend that I didn't hear her. Just me showing her that I was really bored and wanted it to end.
I say to her:
So she doesn't quite start putting more work into the interaction but we carry on with small talk and then I chance upon what she really likes to do by asking her the question:
She says that she likes traveling to Disneyland in Japan and I say that I had that same experience before but didn't enjoy myself the time I did it. But we talk about Japan because I know quite a lot about it.
She becomes like a little toddler girl when she talks about these travels of hers though I don't feel that the stories are very personal-level (thus, it's not deep-diving)
In general, it felt like I did 50% of the talking and she did 50%. It may even have been me:her 55%:45%.
Thankfully, because we talked about Japan, we agreed to check out the large Japanese groceries supermarket at the basement of the mall after the dinner.
The transition from restaurant to Supermarket
From paying the bill and walking to the supermarket, managed to have 3 to 4 instances of VERY light incidental touch. Just from this, I could sense that she was quite attracted to me because she was walking quite closely to me.
Can't remember the conversation but it was a light and fun conversation about different types of food we like to eat. I was unafraid about not sharing the same food likings as her and agreed/disagreed when appropriate.
The Supermarket
This is actually like some shopping date where we are just checking out the supermarket together and she is doing the girly thing of just looking around and inspecting things. I use this opportunity to walk/stand more closely to her and there were more instances of incidental touch.
We just chat about food and keep moving around the supermarket together. She mentioned in the restaurant that there is a particular grocery that she liked. After what I felt like was spending slightly long in the supermarket: about 20-30 mins
We look at candy and I run into this brand of jelly beans that I used to eat when I was young. The story is that the box for the jelly beans is designed in a way such that it is 75% opaque and 25% transparent. But in every pack of jelly beans there will be one jelly bean that is heart-shaped.
This intrigues her because she bought the jelly beans before but never saw a heart-shaped one before.
Somehow I think that this jelly bean thing was actually one of the factors that helped me pull. Which is HILARIOUS!!
Somehow she is just becoming more and more attracted to me... I noticed this because her body actually had stints of visible shivering that I noticed
I suggest she buys the grocery she mentioned that she liked and make it for breakfast for herself the next morning. So we walk to find it and then we queue to pay for it. And then somehow in the queue to paying for it... she spots the jelly beans again
And then she squats down and takes a box of it and goes takes it along with her to the cashier and then pays for her stuff. (I recognized that this is investment)
It's like the heavens were sending me a message...
The transition away from supermarket to car/carpark (Ask for pull and pull logistics come into play here)
She pays for her stuff and we start walking away from the supermarket towards another mall where I just know that we are going to part ways.
I mentally prepared sufficiently for this but I took it slow:
We walk slowly away from the supermarket and I ask how she is going to travel home. Apparently, we found out in the restaurant that we live in adjacent neighbourhoods (Some crazy luck today)
She said she was going to take the bus. I told her I drove to the mall.
Another small signal to pull:
After I asked about the travel-home logistics, she walks close to me and touches her upper arm with my upper arm as we walk on par.
The ask (I actually did some sort of a hard push here and good thing I prepared to commit to it cos I sensed she would be unsure):
We take the lift up to a very empty car park, and then walk to the corner of the really empty carpark where the car is parked. There's no way she doesn't know what I'm trying. She walks behind me at a slower pace.
I open the driver's seat door and she opens the front passenger seat door. As I lean in to the turn the key in the ignition, she's just opened her car door and is leaning in and I say:
We get into the back seat. This is the 2nd time I've sucessfully pulled to this same seduction location as the first time. 2nd pull of my life too.
Things to note at this point
1. Thus far, there was ZERO sexual framing. There was some playful vibe that was created when we were ribbing each other about having wierd tastes in combining different flavours in the sweet and savoury snacks that we like to eat. And about the heart-shaped jelly bean thing that I told her about.
2. There was NO deep-diving, just me doing some girly talk about the stuff that she likes to talk about.
3. There was, however, some VERY light incidental touch, through which I got the feeling that as we got closer to the part where I pulled, she was getting increasingly attracted to me. It's not just that I was trying to touch her. But that she was actually coming and standing really close to me.
When she was standing very close to me, I could feel sexual tension. In fact, I noticed her shivering quite a bit.
In the backseat of my car (This is the seduction location) (For about 2 hours long)
She takes out the jelly beans and starts looking for the heart-shaped jelly bean in the whole box of jelly beans by pouring all of them out onto my hand. This is also the excuse for us to take of our masks for the second time. We fumble around with the jelly beans before putting them back
Making the first move
We eat 1 or 2 then lean back and there is this 5 seconds awkward silence. Then I say super casually:
I grab her jaw and lean quite far in to kiss her. She kisses back. I pull away. Then go back in again. We start making out. But no tongue from her. She seems to be heavily enjoying the kiss though
I put my hand on her thigh, and her upper body starts to sort of shiver and tremble
Insecurities and objections
Suddenly she goes super quiet and looks down really sadly. Her face is even more sad than the dull resting face that I encountered during our dinner. I stay quiet too. There is this period of 10-20 mins where she and I say almost nothing. Things I do are just look away from her and pretend to be in my own world and give her space.
The thing is that now she's sitting next to me and touching me and I take her hand in my and sit silently with her.
I ask her "Is there anything you wanna ask me?" She stays silent and doesn't say anything. There was this point in time where it looked like she was about to say something but held it back in.
I ask her what music she likes... She says "anything"... So I just play some acoustic pop stuff from youtube.
I decide to put my arm around her shoulder and just hold her there and that seems to help her become more comfortable.
Then she says:
So at this point there's this awkward silence where it looks like she's still uncomfortable. I would like to take note that a lot of what I'm saying here is me just honestly saying WHAT I GENUINELY BELIEVE (which I do understand is probably not the best course of action).
Here I decide to open up to her more about my interest in fictional literature classics and then talk about how everyone has a lot of things to be sad about but the key is that you have to make the decision to CHOOSE TO BE HAPPY (once again from the Traveller's Gift)
Throughout the above period of time, there are certain points where she tries to cocktease me by using her fingers to create sensations in my thighs, to which I know not to fall for it and just say something along the lines of "Is there something you're trying to tell me?"
Moving past the objections even though they may not have been dealt with properly/certain objections haven't even surfaced
Somehow she gets satisfied/impressed by this and I start doing mutual escalation on our lower bodies. And then we start making out again. One of these makeouts I do a manhandle make-out. I take mental note of the fact that she was still not using tongue very much at all.
When we were making out, she seemed to hold my head VERY VERY ROMANTICALLY. Even when I broke it off, she just kept her eyes closed. I keep in mind to focus on the goal and stop thinking about making out so much (which I believe was the right thing to do)
I switch positions with her in the back seat and take her handbag away from her... Which til now has always been beside her and a distraction.
I start to rub her thighs and lower belly and down to her crotch. This is following advice from Chase (In HTMGC and our boards) that you should just go for her pants. So that's when I remember that I need to be going for her shoes first. So I start to go for her shoes.
The thing is that when I tried to take off her shoes and she resisted/objected, she also leaned over to my feet to start to undo my laces to which I respond by just going for her shoes and she just starts blocking me.
And then she resists my grabbing onto my hands and refusing to let go. And then, we get into a flirty wresting competition where we're challenging each other to see who's going to be stronger.
I persist here for about 10-20 mins. I lick her thighs, neck, ears, chin, jaw, and rub her crotch to try to turn her on. To which she does get very sexually excited and
She starts saying things like:
I keep wrestling with her for her shoes and she eventually actually takes her shoes off on her own
I start to rub her pussy through her panties though she's keeping her thighs closed and she has slightly fat thighs so this makes it slightly difficult for me. I can feel that she is also not completely shaven over her panties so I'm unsure about whether that's going to make the rubbing uncomfortable for her.
She tells me again that she's on her period but I say nothing and keep persisting. Then she tries to say to me in a flirty way...
But I just keeping persisting. It does feel that she is slightly wet.
Unfortunately, I've not actually seen a pussy with my own eyes in my entire life so not very sure exactly where the clit is.
The end/failure of the seduction
So I'm not sure what happened here and I actually can't remember very well (maybe my persistence was uncalibrated)
I never had full access to rub her pussy. Because she just kept keeping her legs closed and then I was trying to squeeze in through a small gap between her sweaty thighs
After a certain number of times of me persisting, she uses her hand to grab on to the hand I'm using to rub her pussy and pulls it away slowly
I go to rub her pussy a second time, and she does the same thing to use her hand to pull my hand away from her pussy slowly. (I think a lack of calibration happened here. Not sure if this one thing I did could destroy the seduction entirely)
After this, I sort of back away from her and am no longer touching her... So I sit facing her a small distance away on the back seat of my car because I thought that would feel like I'm giving her space. Maybe sitting directly next to her with our arms and butt touching would have been a better option.
And then, we get into this staring contest for 10 minutes where she's trying to analyze me and I just stare back at her with the most honest, understanding, and confident eyes I've ever shown anybody
The logical side of her brain somehow became reactivated (At least I believe that's what happened)
She starts putting on her socks and shoes and grabbing her hand bag and putting on her mask. I simply remain still in my sitting position and look around occassionally at the surroundings outside the car but don't look at her.
There comes a point where she's put everything on and the only thing that's left for her to take is a small bag of groceries that she bought from the supermarket. At this point, she pauses to start staring at me again. It feels like she's thinking about whether she's okay with never seeing me again.
I look at her in a significantly unfazed expression and I hand to her the bag of groceries that she bought and she takes the bag.
Silence.
Lessons learnt/Remarks for readers
1. Thank you for reading my field report if you did!
2. I would like readers to know that the only thing that I was training during this date was actually eye contact. Not going to get too worried about everything else.
3. Does it feel like I missed an escalation window? I can't understand the part where the logical side of her brain turned back on. Was it because persisted uncalibratedly?
4. My deep-diving and rapport-building will get better some day. I feel that there really wasn't that much reason for her to feel connected to me so she didn't mind not seeing me again. Does this feel like an accurate read of the situation?
This was my first number close of this outing. Probably the 1st or 2nd approach.
This conversation was only 2-3 mins
She was sitting at a bus stop and I just walked over to her and used the "u dress confidently opener" and then we actually have quite a horrible and wierd conversation.
Full of one-liners and things I couldn't quite connect with like how she owns pets and usually likes to eat sweet things
But I had social momentum, so I was completely nonchalant and unfazed by the fact that we had trouble connecting. And I even said to her it was getting wierd
She kept giggling throughout the awkward conversation. I start to ask her whether she likes coffee or tea or etc when her bus starts approaching.
Her bus arrives and she tells me that it is arriving and she asks me
I say:
. She gives it to me and runs to catch her bus.
Texting
Sat:
Sun:
Mon:
On to meet.
The girl
This girl is from my city and on the 1-10 scale I would say she's 6-7. She's quite insecure about getting seduced and then thrown away (at least that's what I think it is)
She's 25 years old. She has a really dull resting face very she's not talking abouthte things she's excited about. She gets excited when talking about sweet things to eat, Disney/Disneyland,
pets, and other cute objects/things. She's a social media client-relations manager for a company. She's the older of 2 sisters in her family with her not really liking her younger sister.
On the date, she came in a slightly-above knee length skirt and conservative looking top.
Logistics
Location (It's always the same): A cluster of three vertical air-conditioned malls that are connected to each other on the ground floor, wide and busy underground pathways, and link bridges on the upper floors. There are rooftops, quiet coffee shops, garages located across these 3 malls Seduction location: One of these 3 malls is quieter than the rest. I park my car in a very secluded parking lot in the carpark that is located at the top of this quieter mall
My date-and-pull process is: Move her around as much as possible throughout the date and try to build compliance but don't wait too long to pull. Usually there aren't many interesting places to take my dates on in the mall above which I've parked my car so the pull usually involves bringing her from a different mall into the one above which I've parked my car.
The rest of this paragraph still describes a public space: Then we'll walk to a lift lobby that can be accessed from any floor of that mall. Take the lift up to the carpark. Make quite a quiet walk to my car. I.e. past many empty parking lots because I've picked the one right at the corner of the building's architecture. I'll turn on my engine. And get her to sit in the back with me
The car itself: I've got sunshades and ways of preventing people from seeing into my car more or less 90% so the only giveaway would be some form of springing up and down of the car on its wheels which is not a problem given the parking lot is very secluded.
I may come up with some kind of backup logistic where I can lead a girl to a private hallway or stairwell. But for now, that does not exist. It's the car or nothing.
About me
I am a 21/22 year old virgin.
At the time of my posting of this field report, it has been almost 6 months since I started going out regularly to do cold approach. I've never gone out to do night game thus far since that 6 month start mark.
Mainly because nightclubs and bars are still closed/safe-distancing. So far it has purely been daygame for me
U can check out my current journal at: https://www.skilledseducer.com/threads/ys-journal-revamped.23563/
... where I document more of my learning process and commitment
This is the 7th girl I've gone on a date with from cold approach and the 2nd time I've pulled (counting from the 1st time when I had the above logistics). I've never had a second date before. I managed to get an FR++ to the backseat of my car on my 2nd date.
What I tell my dates my identity is (100% false):
I use my real name but say I'm a small-time 25 year old actor who teaches acting at a small time studio. I was initially in college studying science but then dropped out of college cos I'm too dumb for it.
The date (Mon 051020) (Duration: 4hrs. Before seduction location: 2hrs. At seduction location: 2hrs.)
The meeting place and transition to restaurant
We met at first floor of mall, and walked to 2nd floor restaurant together
The restaurant
We sit opposite each other.
The conversation between us was actually really horrible initially and I felt that this was another date that was gonna go nowhere. We have a horrible conversation for 30 minutes.
Sometimes it's just her asking me questions and me lying to her about the answers (I don't give her my real identity)
Sometimes it's me asking her questions, and her giving one-lined answers.
We talked briefly about her family, her dog, shared some opinions. very shallow-level conversation
It feels as though she's evaluating me in a very boring and dead way to which I'm not very excited by. At a certain point in time, she asks me some question about whether I'm sure/unsure about something I want to do (can't remember what this is)
And I simply pretend that I didn't hear her. Just me showing her that I was really bored and wanted it to end.
I say to her:
So she doesn't quite start putting more work into the interaction but we carry on with small talk and then I chance upon what she really likes to do by asking her the question:
She says that she likes traveling to Disneyland in Japan and I say that I had that same experience before but didn't enjoy myself the time I did it. But we talk about Japan because I know quite a lot about it.
She becomes like a little toddler girl when she talks about these travels of hers though I don't feel that the stories are very personal-level (thus, it's not deep-diving)
In general, it felt like I did 50% of the talking and she did 50%. It may even have been me:her 55%:45%.
Thankfully, because we talked about Japan, we agreed to check out the large Japanese groceries supermarket at the basement of the mall after the dinner.
The transition from restaurant to Supermarket
From paying the bill and walking to the supermarket, managed to have 3 to 4 instances of VERY light incidental touch. Just from this, I could sense that she was quite attracted to me because she was walking quite closely to me.
Can't remember the conversation but it was a light and fun conversation about different types of food we like to eat. I was unafraid about not sharing the same food likings as her and agreed/disagreed when appropriate.
The Supermarket
This is actually like some shopping date where we are just checking out the supermarket together and she is doing the girly thing of just looking around and inspecting things. I use this opportunity to walk/stand more closely to her and there were more instances of incidental touch.
We just chat about food and keep moving around the supermarket together. She mentioned in the restaurant that there is a particular grocery that she liked. After what I felt like was spending slightly long in the supermarket: about 20-30 mins
We look at candy and I run into this brand of jelly beans that I used to eat when I was young. The story is that the box for the jelly beans is designed in a way such that it is 75% opaque and 25% transparent. But in every pack of jelly beans there will be one jelly bean that is heart-shaped.
This intrigues her because she bought the jelly beans before but never saw a heart-shaped one before.
Somehow I think that this jelly bean thing was actually one of the factors that helped me pull. Which is HILARIOUS!!
Somehow she is just becoming more and more attracted to me... I noticed this because her body actually had stints of visible shivering that I noticed
I suggest she buys the grocery she mentioned that she liked and make it for breakfast for herself the next morning. So we walk to find it and then we queue to pay for it. And then somehow in the queue to paying for it... she spots the jelly beans again
And then she squats down and takes a box of it and goes takes it along with her to the cashier and then pays for her stuff. (I recognized that this is investment)
It's like the heavens were sending me a message...
The transition away from supermarket to car/carpark (Ask for pull and pull logistics come into play here)
She pays for her stuff and we start walking away from the supermarket towards another mall where I just know that we are going to part ways.
I mentally prepared sufficiently for this but I took it slow:
We walk slowly away from the supermarket and I ask how she is going to travel home. Apparently, we found out in the restaurant that we live in adjacent neighbourhoods (Some crazy luck today)
She said she was going to take the bus. I told her I drove to the mall.
Another small signal to pull:
After I asked about the travel-home logistics, she walks close to me and touches her upper arm with my upper arm as we walk on par.
The ask (I actually did some sort of a hard push here and good thing I prepared to commit to it cos I sensed she would be unsure):
We take the lift up to a very empty car park, and then walk to the corner of the really empty carpark where the car is parked. There's no way she doesn't know what I'm trying. She walks behind me at a slower pace.
I open the driver's seat door and she opens the front passenger seat door. As I lean in to the turn the key in the ignition, she's just opened her car door and is leaning in and I say:
We get into the back seat. This is the 2nd time I've sucessfully pulled to this same seduction location as the first time. 2nd pull of my life too.
Things to note at this point
1. Thus far, there was ZERO sexual framing. There was some playful vibe that was created when we were ribbing each other about having wierd tastes in combining different flavours in the sweet and savoury snacks that we like to eat. And about the heart-shaped jelly bean thing that I told her about.
2. There was NO deep-diving, just me doing some girly talk about the stuff that she likes to talk about.
3. There was, however, some VERY light incidental touch, through which I got the feeling that as we got closer to the part where I pulled, she was getting increasingly attracted to me. It's not just that I was trying to touch her. But that she was actually coming and standing really close to me.
When she was standing very close to me, I could feel sexual tension. In fact, I noticed her shivering quite a bit.
In the backseat of my car (This is the seduction location) (For about 2 hours long)
She takes out the jelly beans and starts looking for the heart-shaped jelly bean in the whole box of jelly beans by pouring all of them out onto my hand. This is also the excuse for us to take of our masks for the second time. We fumble around with the jelly beans before putting them back
Making the first move
We eat 1 or 2 then lean back and there is this 5 seconds awkward silence. Then I say super casually:
I grab her jaw and lean quite far in to kiss her. She kisses back. I pull away. Then go back in again. We start making out. But no tongue from her. She seems to be heavily enjoying the kiss though
I put my hand on her thigh, and her upper body starts to sort of shiver and tremble
Insecurities and objections
Suddenly she goes super quiet and looks down really sadly. Her face is even more sad than the dull resting face that I encountered during our dinner. I stay quiet too. There is this period of 10-20 mins where she and I say almost nothing. Things I do are just look away from her and pretend to be in my own world and give her space.
The thing is that now she's sitting next to me and touching me and I take her hand in my and sit silently with her.
I ask her "Is there anything you wanna ask me?" She stays silent and doesn't say anything. There was this point in time where it looked like she was about to say something but held it back in.
I ask her what music she likes... She says "anything"... So I just play some acoustic pop stuff from youtube.
I decide to put my arm around her shoulder and just hold her there and that seems to help her become more comfortable.
Then she says:
I can't remember what exactly was said but I connected what she said with the idea that a lot of guys are simply emotionless. I talked about how if I can understand her and she can understand me then it becomes enjoyable
So at this point there's this awkward silence where it looks like she's still uncomfortable. I would like to take note that a lot of what I'm saying here is me just honestly saying WHAT I GENUINELY BELIEVE (which I do understand is probably not the best course of action).
Here I decide to open up to her more about my interest in fictional literature classics and then talk about how everyone has a lot of things to be sad about but the key is that you have to make the decision to CHOOSE TO BE HAPPY (once again from the Traveller's Gift)
Throughout the above period of time, there are certain points where she tries to cocktease me by using her fingers to create sensations in my thighs, to which I know not to fall for it and just say something along the lines of "Is there something you're trying to tell me?"
Moving past the objections even though they may not have been dealt with properly/certain objections haven't even surfaced
Somehow she gets satisfied/impressed by this and I start doing mutual escalation on our lower bodies. And then we start making out again. One of these makeouts I do a manhandle make-out. I take mental note of the fact that she was still not using tongue very much at all.
When we were making out, she seemed to hold my head VERY VERY ROMANTICALLY. Even when I broke it off, she just kept her eyes closed. I keep in mind to focus on the goal and stop thinking about making out so much (which I believe was the right thing to do)
I switch positions with her in the back seat and take her handbag away from her... Which til now has always been beside her and a distraction.
I start to rub her thighs and lower belly and down to her crotch. This is following advice from Chase (In HTMGC and our boards) that you should just go for her pants. So that's when I remember that I need to be going for her shoes first. So I start to go for her shoes.
The thing is that when I tried to take off her shoes and she resisted/objected, she also leaned over to my feet to start to undo my laces to which I respond by just going for her shoes and she just starts blocking me.
And then she resists my grabbing onto my hands and refusing to let go. And then, we get into a flirty wresting competition where we're challenging each other to see who's going to be stronger.
I persist here for about 10-20 mins. I lick her thighs, neck, ears, chin, jaw, and rub her crotch to try to turn her on. To which she does get very sexually excited and
She starts saying things like:
when I lick her (A test). AND
I believe it was at this point in time that she said to me that she was on her period.
I keep wrestling with her for her shoes and she eventually actually takes her shoes off on her own
I start to rub her pussy through her panties though she's keeping her thighs closed and she has slightly fat thighs so this makes it slightly difficult for me. I can feel that she is also not completely shaven over her panties so I'm unsure about whether that's going to make the rubbing uncomfortable for her.
She tells me again that she's on her period but I say nothing and keep persisting. Then she tries to say to me in a flirty way...
(I didn't say I didn't believe her, but it shouldn't stop me from at least getting her panties off)
But I just keeping persisting. It does feel that she is slightly wet.
Unfortunately, I've not actually seen a pussy with my own eyes in my entire life so not very sure exactly where the clit is.
The end/failure of the seduction
So I'm not sure what happened here and I actually can't remember very well (maybe my persistence was uncalibrated)
I never had full access to rub her pussy. Because she just kept keeping her legs closed and then I was trying to squeeze in through a small gap between her sweaty thighs
After a certain number of times of me persisting, she uses her hand to grab on to the hand I'm using to rub her pussy and pulls it away slowly
I go to rub her pussy a second time, and she does the same thing to use her hand to pull my hand away from her pussy slowly. (I think a lack of calibration happened here. Not sure if this one thing I did could destroy the seduction entirely)
After this, I sort of back away from her and am no longer touching her... So I sit facing her a small distance away on the back seat of my car because I thought that would feel like I'm giving her space. Maybe sitting directly next to her with our arms and butt touching would have been a better option.
And then, we get into this staring contest for 10 minutes where she's trying to analyze me and I just stare back at her with the most honest, understanding, and confident eyes I've ever shown anybody
The logical side of her brain somehow became reactivated (At least I believe that's what happened)
Then, I shrug my shoulders and say:
She looks at me for another 10-20 seconds. Then says:
She starts putting on her socks and shoes and grabbing her hand bag and putting on her mask. I simply remain still in my sitting position and look around occassionally at the surroundings outside the car but don't look at her.
There comes a point where she's put everything on and the only thing that's left for her to take is a small bag of groceries that she bought from the supermarket. At this point, she pauses to start staring at me again. It feels like she's thinking about whether she's okay with never seeing me again.
I look at her in a significantly unfazed expression and I hand to her the bag of groceries that she bought and she takes the bag.
Silence.
Three seconds silence. She opens the car door, gets out of the car, closes the door, and slowly walks away.
Lessons learnt/Remarks for readers
1. Thank you for reading my field report if you did!
2. I would like readers to know that the only thing that I was training during this date was actually eye contact. Not going to get too worried about everything else.
3. Does it feel like I missed an escalation window? I can't understand the part where the logical side of her brain turned back on. Was it because persisted uncalibratedly?
4. My deep-diving and rapport-building will get better some day. I feel that there really wasn't that much reason for her to feel connected to me so she didn't mind not seeing me again. Does this feel like an accurate read of the situation?
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