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Is it realistic for a 5'4" man to do well with women?

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I tried it a few times in college but I feel like a sore thumb sticking out as a 5'4" Asian guy.

I would definitely like to get good at night game, but I have heard that it would be significantly more difficult for my height.
How old are you? Are you fit? What's your taste in clothes like? Do you take care of yourself? Do you shower?

College experience should stay in college. You've posted your height and the fact you approached in college. There is nothing in your post that can allow the community to help you.

My assumption is that you've got limited life experience, have not really done much except for work; thus you are probably hungry for life experience. But instead of going for it, you rely on the traumas done to you earlier in life. I did the same thing so .. maybe I am projecting on you. I apologize if I am.
 

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If it bothers you a lot target girls your height or shorter...

I met in real life multiple short guys good with women, a lot of them were my wings...
 

the player of games

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I think you are getting shat on because you've posted another thread on essentially the same topic in a short space of time.

If I was a short guy, I would be so inspired by the replies you got in the other thread. From your own replies in that thread, it appears that you yourself are not and need to ask for other tips or pointers. Because you don't like the answer, I guess.

Frame is everything.

And the only way out is through.
 

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Merged the two threads, which were asking essentially the same thing ("can 5'4" men achieve abundance with women" & "can 5'4" men succeed at night game with women").
 

770

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I’m ~5’5 and I’ve achieved it. Not sure 1 inch makes much of a difference.

Going by the fact you even ask this question, your lack of confidence will be the real issue, not your height.

Btw, any tips on nightgame vs daygame? Where do you have the most success? Do you do OLD?
 

topcat

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Btw, any tips on nightgame vs daygame? Where do you have the most success? Do you do OLD?
Majority OLD, some daygame, a little social circle when opportunity presents.
I’m finished with OLD now. Not much nightgame.
 

SamZee

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I tried it a few times in college but I feel like a sore thumb sticking out as a 5'4" Asian guy.

I would definitely like to get good at night game, but I have heard that it would be significantly more difficult for my height.
Its better to do day game instead, because night game is almost non-verbal so girls going to judge you based on your appearance, vibe, how you handle your self, height etc. But Day game is 80%(my assumption) your skills which can be developed. Go out work on that
 
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They always have a very dominant and aggressive vibe - even more dominant than most men. Everything about them communicates "this is my girl, you stay away from her".
Could be a reason that even though they are lesbians but they are still women. And they know that no man would want to fight them ... Cuz they can always shout for help and crowd of men would come up ... And even the law would protect them.

But a dominant man still has to prove himself without relying of help from other men and law.

Just my hypothesis.
 

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Majority OLD

I love this.

Dudes being like "oh no I can't get girls from online if I'm not 6'2" and slim", and here we have top dog Topcat (excuse the pun) slaying at a height of five inches below his country's 16-34 age group-average (link).

I have no opinion on OLD (zero experience there), but here we have a prime example of why despite the superficialness in the online dating world, once again, skills reign supreme over "looks and height only".

Thanks for sharing your stats and experience, TC.
 

770

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Majority OLD, some daygame, a little social circle when opportunity presents.
I’m finished with OLD now. Not much nightgame.
I'm curious how you setup your OLD? Do you list your height
 

topcat

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I'm curious how you setup your OLD? Do you list your height
Nope. Why would i do that? I just show up on the date. Just before i stopped OLD early this year I closed 16 out of 17 dates. Height isn’t an issue unless you make it one.
 

spear_kin

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I saw a dude that was ugly as f and almost a midget with a 8/10 girl some months ago in a mall. Like, I never went out with a girl as cute and I'm of normal height,nice face and blue eyes. So yeah go play I'd say
 

770

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Nope. Why would i do that? I just show up on the date. Just before i stopped OLD early this year I closed 16 out of 17 dates. Height isn’t an issue unless you make it one.
I see but I'm asking how you get matches.
 

topcat

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I see but I'm asking how you get matches.
i swipe 😂 i have pictures up of myself and a little bio. i ping the matches i’m interested in. run my stack and set up a date.

this is getting off topic. but i’ll leave at this, if you’re not getting girls and you’re short, it’s not because of your height. online or offline. worry about making girls feel good and close them.
 

ziggydust

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It's obviously gonna rule out girls who want tall guys, but it's not impossible.
It can of course be frustrating, but that's life
There's a stunner who lives near me who I tried gaming but I got zero compliance at all and it went nowhere, but she's taller than me and I saw from her facebook that goes for a certain type. I'm certain there isn't anything else I could have done to turn her from red to green in terms of game, but even as a short guy, if you keep approaching you will find some hot girls for who your height isn't an issue
 

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I am half joking but if you look at the photos this guy posted, do you think it's advantageous to this woman's genes to mate with a shorter man rather than a taller one to actually shorten the height of her offspring? in a world where her dating pool of taller men would be competitive, wouldn't this then help her future female offspring by enlarging their dating pool? I wonder if her genetic line is prone to birth more men, because in that case it is advantageous. and obviously it's advantageous for this dude's future kids.

https://www.reddit.com/r/short/comments/1l5d05z
tldr: short men should field test the amazon
 
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