Is there rising entitlement and/or declining motivation in both sexes around dating?

[Mike Silvertree]

@Starboy: She's a fitness model who's 5'11,but explicity stated that she only talks to men who are 6'3 and above because she likes to wear 4 inch heels.

White and Black American males in their 20s, which is when you are tallest, average 5'9", 1.75M. The standard deviation is 3 inches, 7.6 CM. 6' 3" is 2 Standard Deviations above the norm, which limits her to about 2.7 % of available men. Hispanic and Asian Americans average 2 inches, 5 CM, shorter, so even fewer of them are that tall.

She is only hurting herself by disqualifying 97% of men right off, and sounds like a clueless person you do not need in your life.

@Rakkum: I've heard a claim that men's average testosterone levels have been falling.

I have read this many places, I rate it as totally true. I see several reasons, all of which you can fix.

Being overweight and out of shape. If you are overweight, you make less testosterone and more estrogen.

Exercise reduces your weight and builds muscle, both of which increase your testosterone.

Many food additives are bad for you and likely are a contributing factor. You really should only eat food that was available before the industrial food era. Basic meat, vegetables, and grain products. Avoid foods with ingredients that sound like they are from a science class, not a grocery store.

 

[Zorba]

People on the internet look for such complicated explanations for things. Remember camp as a kid? Bunch of dudes hanging out, no girls around. Only time in my adolescent life I went a week without thinking about fucking.

Social media took over. Nobody is in the physical presence of women as much as they used to be. When you're in your own bubble, not exposed to hot young girls, you're just not as horny.

 

[Lover]

Bump.

I saw that some users were banned today. And IIRC there have been some threads recently about the unreasonable standards of women and entitlement of men. They reminded me of this thread.

I am wholeheartedly starting to believe that the internet is ruining people's love and sex lives. People with little experience in the mating world come to this site and vent their frustrations or throw out weird claims far from reality. Would they have any frustrations if the internet wasn't feeding them gibberish? I think not. But I am not sure what they would do instead ?

I'm just thankful that I took my time in my teens to search for fun with girls, and that I had the confidence to leave my one and only friendzone when I thought my "playtime" was over lol - that was almost a decade ago in my early 20's. With this experience in mind, I just can't see myself become so jaded and frustrated about girls that I want to vent about it on the internet. I hope I'm not the only one feeling this way.

Stay cool

 

[ulrich]

I am wholeheartedly starting to believe that the internet is ruining people's love and sex lives. People with little experience in the mating world come to this site and vent their frustrations or throw out weird claims far from reality. Would they have any frustrations if the internet wasn't feeding them gibberish? I think not. But I am not sure what they would do instead ?

Yes, but at the same time, real life is out there outside of your home.
All these warped conceptions are the result of hermiting and avoiding experiencing society.

The internet is a tool.
Can’t really blame the tool, I think, more than the user.

 

[trashKENNUT]

Here's something for guys here:

1)Why men ask if she has boyfriend = extension of object/ive

2)Why other men cheer when a girl gets pregnant = miss opportunity, resentment

3)Why genders don't go out = high leverage from social media, low pain by staying at home

Dear Girlschase members, you guys need to step up. You guys hating on the next generation, is the same exact thing that is

High Returns. Low Risk. Easy Opportunity

Iphone is opportunity. Always blame Steve Jobs for slave jobs even though he is dead = Low risk

Married women = easy opportunity/third party

We cheer when a wife gets pregnant because we hate losing that opportunity. We are sore losers.

z@c+

 

[metalbird]

There's truth in a lot of the points made here. Let me add one more.

For one, I think that the hypergamy argument is complete BS. If anything, men's and women's standards are lower than ever before -- in terms of what they will settle for in reality, not what they say they want on the internet and to their friends. As Chase said, the idea that standards are higher is an optical illusion of sorts.

Example 1:

Remember, it's only been in the last ~30 years that women have really started to compete on a level playing field with men in the business world. The average age in the C-Suite world (and comparable levels of society) is well past 30. What this means, is that you have a younger generation of men/women going into a world that's still dominated by old school "smack the secretary on the ass" white men.

For the the highly educated / professionally successful women out there, this means they are generally met with two categories of suitors:

1. Men who are on their level, but will not treat them as such. Men who are married and cheating, want the woman to cook/clean, degrading towards women, etc
2. Men who are not on their level and so (correctly!) leave them feeling unsatisfied.

For the men who are good matches, there's just a lot more women in that arena than men, so the supply and demand is way outta wack.

Go look up the statistics on obesity prevalence among men vs women. Now go look up the statistics on educational attainment for men vs women. Two sides of the same coin.

In the end, it comes down to a transition phase in major social values. In another 30 years, all the "old school" rich white men will be dead, and I suspect we'll see things return to a more traditional mating game WITH the exception of instead of always powerful / rich men dating smart / beautiful women, it will be powerful / rich members of both sex dating smart / beautiful members of both sexes.

Example 2:

Most attractive women I know do not want to date players/PUAs/married men. Will they fuck them? Sure, as a great GC article once said, "if there's no better options". So yes, they will bang them, but they still won't date these men. They're not that stupid (generally).

Most attractive men I know do not want to date older/fatter women. Will they fuck them? Sure, guys want pussy badly enough eventually. They will bang and eventually wind up dating and marrying older/fatter women, why? "No better options". Soon the pair bonding hormones kick in and they're "in love".

This is how nature works...

 

[Skjöldr]

What this means, is that you have a younger generation of men/women going into a world that's still dominated by old school "smack the secretary on the ass" white men.

complete bullshit lol

 

[trashKENNUT]

complete bullshit lol

Don't dismiss it, yet.

*Zac in Politician mode*

In Asia, while smacking asses no longer exist. Calling a female by completely misogynistic labels is very real.

It's very relevant among "low level" and/or SME, small businesses. I am not sure about corporations. There's levels to this.

And I'm not even a woke person! And the word is not even contextual to the conversation or let alone a joke.

*Zac ends Politician mode*

z@c+

 

[Skjöldr]

@ZacAdam the idea of mysoginistic white men in the corporate world being a prevalent archetype in itself ala "Mad Men" sexually harassing secretaries starts an ends in the anti-white, misandrist Hollywood. If anything, white men in the corporate world have to sit down and take "racial sensitivity classes", "diversity classes" and other white guilt circus shows.

 

[Warped Mindless]

@ZacAdam the idea of mysoginistic white men in the corporate world being a prevalent archetype in itself ala "Mad Men" sexually harassing secretaries starts an ends in the anti-white, misandrist Hollywood. If anything, white men in the corporate world have to sit down and take "racial sensitivity classes", "diversity classes" and other white guilt circus shows.

Im a business consultant so I get to see first hand what happens in many of these big businesses and you are mostly correct.

The whole “C level executive harassing the poor little secretary” thing is pretty damn rare now a days.

 

[trashKENNUT]

@ZacAdam the idea of mysoginistic white men in the corporate world being a prevalent archetype in itself ala "Mad Men" sexually harassing secretaries starts an ends in the anti-white, misandrist Hollywood.

I'm not disagreeing with you.

I'm saying that if we want to see the full picture to actually navigate the social arena, we need to be aware of the nuances.

As for the anti-white movement:

Girls, until the end of time... are going to use WOKE-ism, because she has to conform while in the mean time, she will try to get access to that top guy... all while claiming everyone is racist because she has to.

The whole “C level executive harassing the poor little secretary” thing is pretty damn rare now a days

I guess even Girlschase members fall into the trap of Lover vs Provider, per se

The harassment is no longer physical.

p.s:

Females can't admit this phenomenon for the simple fact that they can't look back past causality,

Second, All women are benefiting from the millions of poor fathers holding the society up while making other females in the office "must know their rank".

That's why 'Mothers Hen', exist. The 'utility' man, exist.

Anyway I guess I need to speed up my blueprint because really, Westerners don't see this. They don't get it that the world can be evil.

z@c+

 

[metalbird]

To be fair, my first hand experience is with the political sphere, not C-Suiters... but I promise you, I have friends whose only job is to cover for Joe Congressman who couldn't help himself from getting his dick sucked by a 20 year old staffer who idolizes him as a god. C-Suiters aren't really that powerful anymore anyway. I see the C's and VP's of today as the "winners" or "top level" of the corporate lackey world... but they're still corporate lackeys, so it doesn't surprise me.

The kind of men I'm talking about are trust fund buddies, bankers, Federal ABC appointees... not hard working corporate guys.

You guys call BS on me but why would I make this up? I see it every day, and hear about it from female friends.

Even Vision mentioned some of this stuff here:

Girls Chase Equivalent for women?

However, whereas men are mostly learning "How do I seduce this girl and make her helpless to jump on my dick?" women are mostly learning "How do I put this man completely under my spell and make him helpless to ever leave me?" Chase Id think id prefer the last one of the latter hahaha. But yes...

www.skilledseducer.com

Do you also know how those corporate guys act outside of work, when HR and the harassment trainings don't apply?

MB