Glover just came out a new book called Dating Essentials for Men: The Only Dating Guide You Will Ever Need available on Amazon.Now I generally dislike coming with criticism without being constructive. So I will advice people instead to study the book "No More Mr Nice Guy" by Dr. Robert Glover. This guy is also a psychotherapist. I read it about 10 years ago and it covers a lot of the same topics as JP does, however there are much more actionable exercises and no moralization. Or vague gibberish language. It is a shame that he isn't more known. Note that this guy also holds PUAs in a bit of negative regard, however his criticisms are more rooted in reality "They are geeks with techniques". Additionally, this guy does not seem to be mentally ill or fatalistic.
I've suspected for a while that one of Jordan Peterson's appeals is that there are a lot of guys out there who, like him, still struggle off-and-on with depression, still aren't totally sure exactly what they want to do with their lives, and he's more relatable for them than the guy who's got all his ducks in a row.Also this guy is now late 50s and still has not beaten his depression. Who is he to tell you about how to fix your life? He outright violates his own principle "set your house in order before you criticize the world." Well his own house is not in order. His worldview seems to be very gloomy judging from all accounts about how tragic existence is, life is suffering etc. I am uninterested in the worldview of whiners. He should speak for himself. I also refuse to take psychological or life advice from mentally ill people who haven't solved their problem.
I will also give him that he likely struck a chord in a lot of guys with his insistence that they should have a higher purpose in life than temporary happiness, and that you are responsible for the course your own life. The number of people I know who are miserable for not having a real purpose other than TV watching or consumerism, or who have ended up with some victim mentality blaming external factors for their own failure is large.
I don't have depression, I know what to do with my life at least as much as most people maybe more than that, but hey, it's about the road, not the destination. Being vulnerable gives you a human touch but I got this idea from Glover, etc. (Mark Mason), not Peterson.I've suspected for a while that one of Jordan Peterson's appeals is that there are a lot of guys out there who, like him, still struggle off-and-on with depression, still aren't totally sure exactly what they want to do with their lives, and he's more relatable for them than the guy who's got all his ducks in a row.
I don't find him edgy. Once he got me into a healthy debate with one of his fellow countrymates, that's all.He also has the appeal for a lot of people I think as a guy who is kind of edgy, and goes up against people they do not like, but who is still in the safe zone where you can actually talk about liking his stuff in polite conversation and it is not going to get you into trouble.
There has been some posts about it at GC at leastcan you recommend some ressource in that regard? (purpose)
Honestly came here to say this. And I generally like JP a lot. I just recognize where people have competencies and I can learn from them, where we are likely to learn together, and where I could probably be the one teaching them!Also he is not experienced with women at all, less so than an ordinary guy I suppose as he married his childhood love. He has not gone through a standard exploration phase before settling down ( https://www.girlschase.com/content/why-people-settle-down-3-step-settling-curve ).