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lao che

Cro-Magnon Man
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i'm writing this to brag, more than anything. my first tinder bang, 18 years old. and one of my recent posts on here was me telling ray zorse i thought 18 was now almost out of reach. :)
ld
now, this is a yes girl all the way, so all i had to do was keep my mouth blathering nonsense at quiet moments, shut up whenever she was talking, ignore her protests, and get her home. which, i would probably never have figured out by myself even though i'd been reading seduction material for about 5 years before i found GC, so thanks chase. the simplicity of seduction is beautiful.
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*technically another app, not Tinder, but close enough.

so i just got onto this on ... wednesday, i think. swiped right plenty, talked to a few girls but nothing notable. woke up friday morning and looked at my phone "congratulations you have a new match", 18 years old. my first thought was OMG she's a lovely little thing. so i decided to tell her just that

me: OMG you're a lovely little thing. if you don't meet me for a coffee i shall be disappointed. (i'm sure this opener is breaking all kinds of tinderules but, i say what i feel)

her: lol. thnx. how are you

me: i'm alright. wish i was still asleep. [her name] short for something?

her: nice ;) no that's my name

me: lao che :)

her: nice to meet you ;)

me: you're up early. how comes?

her: slept early last night. how about you

me: we englishmen wake early. need time to drink lots of cups of tea

her: lol cool

me: i'd rather still be in bed and you? i guess you got nothing to do. no work or school

her: but you still got up early and drink tea?

me: well it's time to get up

her: lol yeah

me: i'm gonna add you on whatsapp


.....

short while later

me: sorry i was busy checking out your pics ,-)

her: haha never mind :)

me: you're a cheeky monkey! taking pics of dudes in the park :)

her: haha just took pics. not a big deal

me: you need a better camera. zoom lens haha

her: haha yeah

me: now i know what to get you for christmas.

her: lol

me: which park is that

her: [whatever park]

me: i like [park near my home which i frequent]

her: i've never been there

me: how comes! where you live?

her: [place far far away] but i hang out a lot. you live in [district]

me: near there, yes. you hang out a lot?

her: yea :)

me: hang out at the park flirting with boys probably. what are you up to today

her:lol. no plans yet. how about you

me: how about a coffee and a walk in the park

her: sounds nice. about when

me: i'm gonna work out first. after i drink my tea ,-) what time can you make it

her: you don't work today?

me: later

her: i can make it 3 pm or later

me: what, it takes you that long to put on your makeup?

her: i need at least one hour on the metro and eat breakfast and take a shower .........

me: (i googled ugly pigs or something and then sent her the pic of some fucked up sow) [her name], pre makeup

her: lol come on

me: ;-) that's good that you're gonna take your time to look pretty. shower at least

her: lol yeah. i don't spend much time on makeup. just too lazy these days. lol is it ok for you

me: not ok. dress pretty. and promise to laugh at my jokes. (thanks krauser)

her: lol. ok

me: 3 is too late for me. what to do .... what to do ..... hmmm

her: maybe another day is better? you don't need to work at the weekend right?

me: i do. do you have a curfew?

her: no (BINGO!)

me: evening drink instead of afternoon coffee

her: about when?

me: 7 30 ish

her: okay nice

me: alright i'll have to think about this

her: nice :)

me:which metro line you take?

her: 8

me: well that's perfect. (it brings her pretty much right to my office)

her: :)

me: [metro station]

her: ok :)

me: great. see you there. 730

her: great ;)

me: [my number] just in case

her: ok :)


i have no doubt at all that i'll fuck this girl. in fact i started compiling the LR in my head even before i'd met her in person, (i do that all the time now. anyone else?)
so it was plain sailing all the way, just a matter of logistics. but i had a shitload of stuff to do so had to get cracking. anyway, i can skip to the first meet.
i get there just before she does and see her coming up the stairs. "you've gotta be [name]" we greet, and i tell her wait a sec, while i put down my coffee cup so i can greet her properly with a hug. i tell her we're not going anywhere yet until i drink my coffee so we stand and make small talk about her journey and whatever. then i get on my scooter and tell her to hop on.
it's short notice and i'm not following my usual date model but i have the bare-bones of a plan. which goes almost perfectly.

first we go to a nearby bar/pub, sit next to each other on comfy leather couches, i have gin and tonic and she's on a mojito. great stuff. oh, she ordered without telling me. the waiter came over and she said something which i didn't hear, then the waiter walked away. i asked "what are you having?"

"mojito"

"well you should probably tell the waiter to come back so i can order a gin and tonic"

"i already ordered it for you." so i told her off. i said she better not do that again, that's my job.

conversation is going alright, she's bubbly, kinda loud actually, a bit skittish maybe. laughs a lot, but i put that down to my natural comedic skills ;) i'm trying to make her talk more softly without actually saying it, i'm talking quietly so she has to lean in and say what? but she doesn't follow my lead. it's pretty hard to turn the conversation more intimate when i keep thinking the neighbours can hear half of it.
she asks me what i'm looking for here! my stock answer for this is "well, i'm not looking for anything serious" her reply is usually "so you just wanna fuck" or some variation thereof. to which i reply "does that bother you?" depending on the situation i can take this pretty far "that bothers you? that i think you're sexy? that i wanna put my hard dick inside you? that bothers you? obviously this was too early in the date for such things sot his time i just dodged it by firing it back on her and then moving on from her answer. she said something about friends and then she said "you know tinder is a dating app?"
me:"oh, really? what does that mean?" i played dumb and she replied "yes, some people use it to try and find people to hook up with" i said, "oh, so that means you think this is a date"
"no no don't get me wrong bla bla bla "
i said "so, you're saying this isn't a date? good, does that mean i'll be safe with you? you're gonna keep your hands off me?"
we spend some time asking each other the random questions provided on the tinder app. first "mild" questions then "intimate" what kind of presents do you like best? are you afraid of making decisions? should couples have keys to one another's apartment? nothing too wild but i managed to use them to springboard off into some funny terittory.

drinks done we go to a sushi place we each order a couple of things to share and i order us two mojitos. same deal here with the talking. couple next to us can probably know what's going on. maybe i was self conscious coz i'm an old dude out with a young girl. anyway, i'm having a pretty good time but it's hard to turn up the heat, i need to be able to smooth it out with my sexy voice, plus sitting opposite was not conducive to the vibe.
i notice more than once that i think she's nervous and i ask her about it. she's arms-crossed, hunched forward a little. she says it's just comfortable for her. so i was showing her how to sit, arms draped down, sexier like that. if you're not used to it it feels so uncomfortable, but if you force yourself it gets much better. that's another thing i learned from GC how to sit and stand sexy.
so that became a running theme, like practicing to sit sexy. every now and then i'd notice her slouching and tell her "practice!" and we'd lounge back all relaxed and loose.

i get the bill and tell her sushi is on me, and she's buying the cocktails at the next bar. she ask "is it very expensive?" "yes." so on we go. it's not far but i keep getting lost or missing my street, or just fucking up and going the wrong way. doesn't matter we end up at a little corner park so i stop and we wander around watching old people dance.
the park is actually closed, i'm looking to climb in for some fun but it's a no go. so, pleasant little interlude, little bit of a nicer environment for us to talk, and other people to interact with. i'm not one for touching girls much, partly because of the 'sexy man' thing but also because i'm very aware of the girl's reputation, and of the attention from strangers, so i don't want girls to get creeped out, not that they wouldn't wanna hold hands or have my arm around them, but because they would want it, just in a more private location. so, no touching, but we're talking and walking close. a lot of time i kind of get in front of a girl, making a point or doing something playful, while walking backwards. i find this really sexy. imagine she says something you don't believe so you get right in front of her and with exaggerated facial expressions and a real sarcastic obviously joking tone you say "oh, really?" fuck, writing this out makes me sound like jim carrey. might have to tone it down. i've got a lot of wierd mannerisms, like the exaggerated chin-stroke when thinking about something and saying "hmmmm" like i'm stroking my big long beard and having a hard think.

anyway, on to the cocktail bar. it becomes a running joke that i keep getting lost. it's really not that bad but i exaggerate it to comic effect. she keeps using her ipad to chat to her friends, even while on the back of my scooter. somehow it's not rude though. like she would put it away when i came back from the bathroom, and she would say sorry, but i don't care. she's a kid, she probably needs to tell her friends where she is so she feels a little safer and they don't worry. so in a dumb-girl voice i imitate what i imagine her conversations are like, while air-typing. either like asinine shit "yeah we're drinking mojitos" "just having sushi!" "going for a cocktail now" or chase-framing "yeah, he's better looking than his pictures .." "yeah i like him i'm probably gonna stay out tonight" or self-deprecating about my navigation "yeah the date was terrible! he kept driving round in circles!"

i haven't been to the cocktail bar on a weekend. it is real busy and our table isn't great. this place is like a speakeasy, it's real dark and quiet on one side but our side was near the bar and it was crowded and noisy. i ordered for us both and set about turning up the heat. i'm comfortable enough that we can start with sexy talk because the noise of the crowd will drown out her voice and she'll be leaning in to hear me.
we talk about all the usual stuff, first times and how many partners and so on. she claims 8. i told her more than 1 and less than 1000, but first i told her that if she even wanted to think about sex she had to put a ring on my finger first. i'm saving myself for the right woman.
she told me her first time was when she was seventeen and when i asked she told me "he was about your age" (which put the notchometer up to about 98%). she brings up the subject of age once or twice during the night but i just ignore it or turn it around

now we're leaving the cocktail bar, i'm confident i know my way to the next two places. she asks where we going and i'm almost thinking outloud "we're gonna go to the park and then we're gonna go back to my place. or maybe we should go straight back. yeah, you wanna go straight back?" she didn't seem too keen on that idea, "yeah we'll just go have a little look in the park. it's not far so usual small talk and sexy talk. oh, i'll always put my hand on a girls knee when she's riding pillion. at first just like incidental touching, then as the evening progresses i make my way through touching for emphasis, to resting my hand to, all the way up the skirt with her jerking me off (but that's only happenend once, and she's a special girl).
walking around the park at night is nice, i'm not thinking i can bang here, although i have a secret place for that, but i'm thinking i can turn up the steam for a little while before pulling the trigger.
oh, i forgot to mention, the "friend" she's talking to is a dude who hasn't fucked her yet. she says he wouldn't fuck her because they didn't have a condom. and she's mentioned to me several times that she has to, at some point, meet her "friend" which i either ignore or rebuke "you're not going to meet anyone, it's 12.30"
now we're holding hands in the dark, there's a few people but no one can see anyway. so we can walk and whisper and there's some shady spots. i'm getting close to her, pulling her in to me, talking nonsense. can't remember what i said, it gets pretty hot but i am not gonna make out with her until i get her home. i will, however, tease the fuck out of her. so i pull her into me, grab her hair at the scruff off her neck, pull her lips close to mine, pull her head back so her neck is exposed and lean down to smell her and sniff her neck. this sounds corny as fuck. i wouldn't believe it if i read it in a cheap paperback.
i love to smell a girls neck, they love it to. so we go to leave and she mentions again about meeting the friend. i literaly just said "get on" and then rode home, which didn't take long.
she comments "nice place" when she enters my apartment, and i say "oh, yeah, thanks, it's alright." it is nice. but it's nothing special, i guess it's a pleasant surprise to girls after they hike up 6 flights of stairs in what appears to be a kinda shoddy neighbourhood.
i don't waste any time once she's inside. i give her a quick show round, offer her drinks, put on some music we discussed earlier and then fuck her, basically. sex was alright. this girl's obviously very open, she's told me all kinds over the course of the evening. i fuck her pretty good and she's saying ohmygod but i can't get her. i was actually exhausted. at one point i was having to change arms whilst fingering her and eating her clit.

so i jizzed all over her and then about thirty seconds later she reached for her ipad. hahaha fucking kids. then she starts talking about going to meet her friend again and i just basically told her to shut up she was staying here (in hindsight why not just let her go?). i went and found a toothbrush for her and told her she could sleep in tomorrow while i get up, as long as she promised not to steal my tv. so we went to bed and i did my favourite move which is when she faces away from you and you put your arm around her neck and pull her into you, spooning, i think it is called. i never met a girl who didn't love that, it's very dominant but also very intimate. you can grab her tits with the underhand and rub her pussy with the other and pull her head round to kiss her lips, or you can bite her on her ears and neck and back. and from there you can roll her onto her belly, so she's flat on her belly with you in from behind. every girl loves this position. best for big dicks or skinny girls. i don't have a big dick though.
from there i turn her over and smash into her ontop. it was only when i took a moment from fucking her - because my legs were giving out - and she started shuddering. the silent shudder. i just didn't know it but she's like a quiet-cummer or something. haha i never seen that before.
now, first time i started in the living room. i ate her pussy. the lights were on. didn't notice anything out of the ordinary. it was dark the second time but i felt something, both with my hands and my dick, at the entrance to her vagina.like small lumps or something. i asked what it was and she said she didn't know. but she wasn't surprised by it, now i'm fucking terrified that i'm gonna get warts from hpv.

i finished off and we went to sleep. i left her a note in the morning, with a cup of tea and directions to the subway

follow up texts:

oh, you made the bed. well, kind of. left the AC on though, so spanks for you next time.

haha :)

hey where's my TV by the way

haha you guess

i'm just glad you didn't find the envelope stuffed with cash hidden behind it




so yeah, tinder, two thumbs up
 

Rage

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I enjoyed this a lot!

I’m only 21, but I kind of have that older mind, that sets me mentally maybe a couple years older than I am (all my main close friends are a couple years older than me; and the couple women I’ve had as girlfriends were 5 years or more older than me, which is sorta ideal for me if I got in a relationship right now.. at least 2 or 3 years older than me).

I mention this, cause I kind of get that same urge to fuck an immature girl much younger than me (have laid one 18 year old and was like this), and can’t wait to be older to get more of that. I’ve met a few girls and know a couple through social circle that are like 15 or 16 and are warm to me, but I can’t really do shit about it because they’re jailbait in the U.S. as much as I might lust for those girls.

i'm writing this to brag, more than anything. my first tinder bang, 18 years old. and one of my recent posts on here was me telling ray zorse i thought 18 was now almost out of reach. :)

ld

now, this is a yes girl all the way, so all i had to do was keep my mouth blathering nonsense at quiet moments, shut up whenever she was talking, ignore her protests, and get her home. which, i would probably never have figured out by myself even though i'd been reading seduction material for about 5 years before i found GC, so thanks chase. the simplicity of seduction is beautiful.

How come this was your first tinder lay if you don’t mind me asking? Are you new to it; I haven’t had much success with tinder and deleted it long ago because I was too ugly for it and couldn’t have that effect with girls I do in person. But if I can get professional pics of me done sometime I’ll likely go back on it and/or invest in colt’s program.

And was wondering why so many locations you took her too? Or maybe it was only within a couple hours; it reads kind of like a date compression style of date, but you couldn’t have pulled sooner?

Just curious, clearly well done man … and nice that you can still get 18 yr olds ;)

-Gem
 
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lao che

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hi gem, glad you enjoyed it. i kind of eased back on writing LRs, mostly because mine don't provide any educational value, due to my never being able to remember the BS that comes out of my mouth. so i feel it just comes across as a brag, like "yeah, met this girl, talked a bit, had a coffee and a walk, took her home and banged her' it doesn't really provide value. however i remember a lot about this one, there's still plenty that i didn't include. also i usually end my LR at the moment we step into my place, i feel usually the sex doesn't need to be described, as we're detailing the process of seduction. i thought it was hilarious when she reached for her ipad, though.


i've never used tinder as it requires a facebook account, which i do not have nor want. this app i used is a rip off. pretty much the same in all but name. however no facebook or other nonsense required. i just got it last week, threw up a couple of pics i already had on my phone and proceeded to swipe away. i'm not particularly good looking and my pics are nothing special, they don't even obey the "rules" of online dating pics for men. i'm smiling in one, not looking down and away in either of them. and i put a pic of me firing a pistol at a gun range, so it's just my arm and back of my head.

as an aside - i don't know what you look like, i assumed you were the ripped beast in your avatar - i wrote a post about looks and perception, you may or may not find it useful https://boards.girlschase.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9745

now about the date. well spotted about the multiple venues (in fact really just 3 places, minus the parks). date compression is one thing, and if you were to see it on a map you might notice that they plot a line right to my door ,-)
it was a pretty long night, actually. the time flew, though. hard to believe i spent about 5 hours with her before getting her home. this was because of having to calibrate to the girl and the situation. first two places it was impossible to sex up the vibe. the interlude in the little corner park was accidental, but this just adds to the devil may care vibe.
as a comparison, i took a different girl to the same sushi restaurant and cocktail bar, and then home, and i KNOW i could have skipped the cocktails and had checkmate in two.


Gem said:
I’m only 21, but I kind of have that older mind, that sets me mentally maybe a couple years older than I am (all my main close friends are a couple years older than me; and the couple women I’ve had as girlfriends were 5 years or more older than me, which is sorta ideal for me if I got in a relationship right now.. at least 2 or 3 years older than me).

-Gem

this is a good thing. hanging out with people a little bit further in life than you are will help you develop faster, kind of let you reach forward and drag the future toward you, rather than what i always did which is to stay in my comfort zone, in whatever stage of life i was at, and try to avoid change, try to prevent the future from happening. dunno if that makes sense ....


Gem said:
I mention this, cause I kind of get that same urge to fuck an immature girl much younger than me (have laid one 18 year old and was like this), and can’t wait to be older to get more of that. I’ve met a few girls and know a couple through social circle that are like 15 or 16 and are warm to me, but I can’t really do shit about it because they’re jailbait in the U.S. as much as I might lust for those girls.-Gem

shit i'd get locked up if i was around 16 year-olds. if i was 21 (or even 30) and knew game, i'd be smashing 18 year olds as often as possible. trust me, man, this is a good time to be a young man. enjoy yourself.
 

Rage

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i've never used tinder as it requires a facebook account, which i do not have nor want. this app i used is a rip off. pretty much the same in all but name. however no facebook or other nonsense required. i just got it last week, threw up a couple of pics i already had on my phone and proceeded to swipe away. i'm not particularly good looking and my pics are nothing special, they don't even obey the "rules" of online dating pics for men. i'm smiling in one, not looking down and away in either of them. and i put a pic of me firing a pistol at a gun range, so it's just my arm and back of my head.

as an aside - i don't know what you look like, i assumed you were the ripped beast in your avatar - i wrote a post about looks and perception, you may or may not find it useful viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9745

I feel you man when I did have one, I would use a fake facebook account; that’s cool that there are rip off apps like that, I think I will look some up now… might come in handy like they did for you.

Yeah I just have whatever pictures too; haha the picture isn’t me it’s zyzz http://bit.ly/1UC5IEz … though I have a similar physique now, minus like 10 lbs or so if you adjust for height. That’s a neat post man; no when I say I’m ugly, I just mean in terms of like what Chase had said in the online dating article about how online looks are different from in person.

I'm not that photogenic and I’d say maybe am average or above average in looks; but looks plus physique and everything all together, I have sort of the opposite problem of having to tell myself that I’m not that good looking and keep my ego in check always.

Wherever I go I have a fucking ton of girls notice me; I think it’s more than ever lately because I've put on a bit more muscle and I've changed my hairstyle and look up a bit. People will be telling me every single fucking time I see someone new now that I got buff or am handsome or sexy or whatever, and frankly its nice at first but I think it is sort of terrible for my ego and will turn me into a cocky douchebag if I'm not careful and don’t keep my ego in check.

I’d rather keep in mind that I'm whatevers looking and keep focusing on my game to get better.

When I go out, or when I go on a date I will dress down a tiny bit because I think I’d hurt my attainability if I didn’t do that (kind of like a chick who is a beautiful girl with naturally big boobs will flaunt them less) so that I don’t look too good. But agree with what you say too, that it’s always back to the process that you fail, and not because of looks or mood or any other external bullshit like that.

now about the date. well spotted about the multiple venues (in fact really just 3 places, minus the parks). date compression is one thing, and if you were to see it on a map you might notice that they plot a line right to my door ,-)
it was a pretty long night, actually. the time flew, though. hard to believe i spent about 5 hours with her before getting her home. this was because of having to calibrate to the girl and the situation. first two places it was impossible to sex up the vibe. the interlude in the little corner park was accidental, but this just adds to the devil may care vibe.
as a comparison, i took a different girl to the same sushi restaurant and cocktail bar, and then home, and i KNOW i could have skipped the cocktails and had checkmate in two.

That’s pretty awesome!

I watched this really advanced guy do infield same day lay here and was very impressed ; he does something similar it appears http://bit.ly/1HOdl78

this is a good thing. hanging out with people a little bit further in life than you are will help you develop faster, kind of let you reach forward and drag the future toward you, rather than what i always did which is to stay in my comfort zone, in whatever stage of life i was at, and try to avoid change, try to prevent the future from happening. dunno if that makes sense ....

No it makes perfect sense. I’m living at home right now for like 2 more weeks and it has been driving me crazy. You become like the people you're around and being around mediocre people/average people affects you; turns you more like them. Much of it is in ways you can’t even realize till you're away from them; most people my age are still kids and shit or are quite immature. We lack rites of passage now, so in many ways they seem like little boys to me. And I can’t get on the same with them too long without it becoming clear how different I am from them. Older friends who are like minded are better influences and more often are who I learn the most from; women a few years older than me who are well educated are also included here.

shit i'd get locked up if i was around 16 year-olds. if i was 21 (or even 30) and knew game, i'd be smashing 18 year olds as often as possible. trust me, man, this is a good time to be a young man. enjoy yourself.

Hahaha I feel you man ;) I definitely will, good talking to you. Will have new reports up soon.

-Gem
 

lao che

Cro-Magnon Man
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lol gem's all like "i'm too ugly for tinder" but just being modest haha




the app is called tantan, but i can't imagine you'll have a lot of users in your local area.

i just scored off it again last night. fucking crazy really. girl came straight to my place, no coffee-bar meeting first, or anything like that. i might write a LR because the text convo was pretty interesting.


Gem said:
I’m living at home right now for like 2 more weeks and it has been driving me crazy. You become like the people you're around and being around mediocre people/average people affects you; turns you more like them. Much of it is in ways you can’t even realize till you're away from them

the level of intelligence and maturity of some of the younger guys on here is quite staggering.
you can't realize how much influence your family has on you until you put some time and distance between you and them. it took me a long time to realize this and TBH after 15+ years of being away from home i'm still working through the issues. not in a sadsack kind of way, but still often having quite deep revelations about myself and my upbringing and the reasons why i developed certain behavioural traits and characteristics.

as for living at home, i've come to see that the biggest improvement to anyone's game is getting his own place. you hardly even need game anymore when you have a place a girl can safely let out her wild side (having said that i'll still take a girl to climb into a park at night, just for shits and giggles)

. good luck!
 
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