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JT Sunshine

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Very much enjoyed reading your last two posts brother! Sounds like you had an amazing weekend. All that positive energy you’re putting out in the world will come right back to you… and the sly smile never hurts either 😏
 

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I always enjoy reading about your adventures, dear friend! I love how you describe the women you see. Seems like there are quite a few hotties running around where you are, too.

Just wanted to give you a quick constructive feedback about something I noted: I'm not sure a comment about forgetting your shopping list puts you in a good light. It gives the impression of a forgetful old man who needs help, which by your writings I'm sure you are not. I don't even know if shopping lists are still a thing, nowadays people probably use an app...
 

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I should be working hard today on sales calls, but I am de-motivated. I screwed up something due to inattention, which in turn was due to having too much on my plate and not being able to focus. It's not an expensive mistake, but it makes for a rough patch in an otherwise rewarding working relationship. She'll get over it, but it made me feel like I'm losing my edge.

Plus I heard that my ex-ex, the tall gorgeous redhead with the Christina Hendricks-like figure, has been posting up on the socials pictures with her and her ex-husband. I'm not sure why it bothers me. Our last three reconciliation attempts ended predictably badly, but she just divorced him. It was official less than a couple months ago! In our five years together, she never bothered to get a divorce from her first husband, then got married less than a year after we broke up.

It's interesting reflecting on that tumultuous time with her. When we'd break up I'd immediately start approaching and flirting, looking to bury my sorry in the sweet nectar of a beautiful girl. It often worked -- I was studying game and met quite a few beautiful girls in that time. But I did not find many other women attractive. The ex-ex, Big Red as I called her to her consternation, had the most perfect hips and if a girl didn't have them, I wasn't attracted. It was very primal. I've noticed this with other limerance situations - once I was obsessed with a girl, I found very few other girls that really got my engines going.

In fact, the most-recent ex - the rich blonde with the banging booty, left me largely cool for months. I'd get after it enthusiastically, but not with the same burning fire as with Big Red. It took nearly a year before I felt the same level of attraction, in fact. I'm not sure what's up with that - an evolutionary adaptation to promote pair bonding to successfully rear children in our harsh ancestral past?

So I'm feeling gloomy about Big Red, instead of feeling like I dodged a bullet with her BPD tendencies and feeling sorry for the poor sap. I am in an existential quandary. I am doomed to be just a fuckboy? Given what happened with Limerance Girl, the Persian girl from last year, and now this, I am detecting a pattern and it's bothering me. I'm a top-tier male - tall, good-looking enough, wicked funny, strong as a bull with very high status in our community. Girls should be climbing over themselves to get me on lockdown, pronto!

Texted Artsy Blonde about getting together for one of the weekend concerts. She replied promptly and politely but demurred. Working Saturday, said she'd be too tired Sunday. Plus she said she's still recovering from her cold. That's a dead end, though maybe I will ping her in a few months to see if anything has changed.

It's a hard one because she's tall and pretty and I really enjoyed her company. She seemed to enjoy our intense kissing session, but I might have inadvertently drained out all the sexual tension. Or put her off by my ardor. I am a horny rascal once I get going.

I know said I wasn't going to reach out first to Limerance Girl since she got back into town, but I felt like I had to confirm Friday plans. If she was going to flake, it would give me enough time for a backup. She responded immediately, and we had a very positive text exchange. We're on. I'm managing my expectations, but of course I'd like to get her back to my place afterward.

Mostly I'm feeling forlorn and alone, few prospects, not much momentum to approach. This weekend will be very busy socially, so I want to keep my internal state positive. There will be plenty of opportunity to meet attractive women and I want to take advantage of them.
I always enjoy reading about your adventures, dear friend! I love how you describe the women you see. Seems like there are quite a few hotties running around where you are, too.

Just wanted to give you a quick constructive feedback about something I noted: I'm not sure a comment about forgetting your shopping list puts you in a good light. It gives the impression of a forgetful old man who needs help, which by your writings I'm sure you are not. I don't even know if shopping lists are still a thing, nowadays people probably use an app...
Thanks for the feedback @gameboy. Noted. I entirely agree with that assessment.
 

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Update:
Actively fighting a sense of despondency today. The festival is in town and there's not near as many cuties as I had hoped. It's mostly an older crowd. Very few prospects. I am determined to keep up my spirits though.

Before my tale of woe, there have been a few bright spots. Yesterday morning while riding my bike I came up from behind on a group of five super-cuties jogging on the trail. Nice, round athletic booties all. After I passed them I stopped to tell them, "I love how your pony tails are bobbing in unison, it's adorable!" They all beamed with their bright young smiles. They were Asian and everyone of them was quite pretty. I'm not afflicted by yellow fever but I can understand why so many men are.

I've been forcing myself to smile brightly, offer friendly greetings, and engage in conversation where I can. It's led to several fascinating conversations with people I didn't know. This morning's concert a young man took my empty seat and I thought the festival had double-sold it. No, he was just hustling to get into the show before it began. Turns out we know many people in common, he's a composer and we might partner up on a project.

Yesterday, got talking books with an older man who owned a bookstore in the Bay Area, and he gave me great background about one of my favorite philosophers and one of my favorite composers, both of whom he knew personally. Had I not said hello, I would have missed out on that fascinating conversation.

Date with Limerance Girl was last night. I assembled a delicious picnic and she brought a nice bottle of wine. We took one car so she would have to come back to mine to drop me off. We posted up early outside the venue to enjoy our food and drink and settle in for some fun people watching, which she claims is her favorite pastime.

Almost immediately, we were approached by people I know. I was happy to be seen with Limerance Girl. She's what they call a good "assortative mating" match - an appropriate partner for me as she's very smart and beautiful. Then a lesbian couple that we both knew approached and wouldn't leave until it was time for the show. I was hoping to create an "us v. them" environment with her by imagining backstories for the people we saw. Who has a sex dungeon? Who killed a man by accident? Did that guy work for the CIA and end up double-crossing his own country and now carries secrets that would drown an ordinary man? Fun stuff.

Oh well. The one lesbian lady asked how we met, and I said, "prison pen pals." Got a good laugh. The other lesbian lady I had had an unpleasant encounter with probably 15 years ago. I was surprised at myself by how I hadn't let it go. I chalked it up to her being a frosty type person and so I acted extra friendly. I think she left the conversation thinking we were besties.

The lesbians glommed on to Limerance Girl and I suspect she was a little bothered by the intrusion as well. It was actually quite pleasant conversating but I felt miffed that I didn't get the one-on-one time I had hoped.

I saw a girl that I used to date when we were moving through the crowd, a very tall way younger blonde who gave me the stink eye. I think Limerance Girl saw it but didn't say anything. I wonder what she would make of it.

The concert was amazing! I clasped Limerance Girl's hand and told her I was happy to have her company. She grabbed my arm and leaned into my shoulder and stayed there for a warm minute. I was eating it up. I was getting a proximity boner and really thinking it might happen tonight.

Someone said there was an afterparty for the musicians and we crashed it. I used to be a donor but since the pandemic-induced business shrinkage I have had to pull back so I didn't get an invite. No one said anything. The organizers seemed to be happy to see me. And I was happy for Limerance Girl to see me amid this crowd of fashionable, artistic high-achievers.

It was a spectacle. All the cuties that I hadn't seen on the streets were here. Lots of different languages being spoken, great food booths abounded, lots of happy smiling people, especially the performers who seemed so happy to hang out and enjoy each other's company after such a great show before a sold-out appreciate crowd.

A well-known actor (a friendly acquaintance if not a friend) engaged me in conversation and Limerance Girl joined in. I was thinking how great it was for her to see this famous person asking me my opinion and curious about me and what I was working on, etc. Turns out she didn't know who he was! How was that possible? He's been off the scene for years, but between his awards and the commercials he did and does, and pop culture references, she must have some familiarity. Oh well.

We left after an hour or so and she dropped me off. I asked her to come in and she said "I've hit the wall. Just too tired." I went to grab my stuff and she got out of the car, which I wasn't expecting since she turned down my offer to come in and have a drink and de-brief the evening. She hugged me.

I told her "I'm not going to make out with you." She laughed. I said "you're probably a bad kisser anyway and it's been so long that I've forgotten." She laughed again. Not sure that was a good comment - I just wanted to keep her a little off balance. She did mention how men tell her she's a good kisser when we first made out oh so many months ago, and I wanted to have some fun with a callback. Fact is, she is a great kisser.

I didn't text her to see if she got home OK, or to thank her for coming out. I didn't want to appear over-eager. But now I wonder if it comes off as butt-hurt that she didn't come in and have a drink and get down to that naughty business.

Takeaways:
Limerance Girl genuinely enjoys my company. She tells me how strikingly handsome I am. She suggested we get together and watch the reality TV show that I turned down to see who wins and how I stack up against the competition. She mentioned several activities with what I thought was a suggestion of us doing them together. Future-orientation. I'm not sure how to deal with her. Part of me is thinking of the Tao of Steve -- be desireless, be excellent and be gone. I've accomplished the first two, I was excellent last night - socially proofed through the roof, great conversation - thoughtful, insightful, funny, so is it now time to let her marinate in my absence? This shit is hard.

Plan of Action:
Keep approaching. Friendly, low key, not attached to any outcomes. If there's an opening, take it and move it deeper. Get some numbers on cold approaches. I've only got one so far this year and that's ridiculous. Force myself to get out more and be social. All the basics.

Update to my Update:
Literally seconds (!) after posting this, Limerance Girl texted to thank me for such a fun evening. And to say sorry for backing out of a nightcap and recap. Which I take to mean that sex wasn't/isn't entirely off the table. She's no dummy - if she came into the lion's den, she knows she's offering herself up for a feast. We had a lovely exchange, I was careful to play it cool and let her do most of the communicating. I will let a few days pass and then ping her about something ordinary and evaluate the response. If she doesn't reach out to me first.
 
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Well done sir! I was just about to ask, why didn't you make a move on limerance girl. I guess the timing didn't feel right?

But now reading your update I see you did exactly the right thing. I'm excited to read how your story continues!
 

JT Sunshine

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Sounds like a fantastic day! I think you played it perfectly with limerance girl. The fact she texted you means she was thinking about it… and that is a good thing. I’m excited to see how this plays out, as well as what other adventures you go on!
 

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Update:
Still digesting this festival weekend. I made very few approaches, but I did get lots of smiles and got the stink-eye from a former fling (which means she still has feelings for me).

My ballsiest approach was to one of the performers after she did a post-concert talk and was standing around. "I've got a question for you." She said "Yes" very brightly. "Will you marry me?" She laughed. She had one of those sexy Eastern European accents that send me 'round the bend, but up close she wasn't as hot as she looked on stage. Still, she was cute, and it was fun, and I could tell she enjoyed it as well.

I'm back to obsessing over Limerance Girl. The fact that she has initiated both of our most recent contacts has me high on the hopium. I'm going to play it cool and let her make the next move, fully accepting that it may never happen. In the meantime I'm going to get more systematic about approaches and start tracking more closely. I see fellow journalers doing that and it makes sense. I am going to shoot for an actual live number pull in the coming week and not care if I get shot down. It's all about trying, that's the success. I'm telling myself the outcome is irrelevant.

Still stinging thinking about the ex-ex. She's the one with whom I had my most desperately painful limerance obsession 17 years ago, and who I fell into a 5-year relationship that was tumultuous (BPD is a literal bitch), to say the least.

She's apparently back together with her ex-husband no. 2, the one she divorced like two months ago. She never even bothered to get a divorce from husband no. 1 when we were together. Then she married this poor sap less than a year after I finally broke it off, when I met my most recent ex.

We've had three recent reconciliation attempts (two so far this year) that blew up and left me feeling like a fool. She's Lucy with the football, and the football in this metaphor is the out-of-this-world hot sex. I'm feeling like she's all hot and heavy with me when she's got an itchy clit, then can't wait to get away from me.

Being the fuckboy of this gorgeous redhead was the dream when I was younger, now I feel sad and used. I feel like Limerance Girl used me in a similar way, and so did the tall Persian girl from last year. I must be giving off fuckboy vibes, something to look at.
 

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"I've got a question for you." She said "Yes" very brightly. "Will you marry me?" She laughed.
Kudos for the cold approach! A bit too indirect or my taste ...just kidding ;)

I'm going to play it cool and let her make the next move,
Just my two cents: I have a hard time understanding why you never really seem to make a move on her. If you really desire this woman, why not let her know? I mean, you already slept with her. So why not repeat? As we all know women are notoriously bad at taking the initiative.

Or do you actually prefer to flirt with other women and are happy to keep her at arm's length? That's the impression I'm getting. Which obviously is fine too if it's what you want.

For me personally, getting good at approaching (and closing) is my own goal this year. But then, I don't have a limerance girl in my life... fortunately :) I actually love being single right now!
 

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Thanks @gameboy, it's complicated. Twice before when I went in for a hug, she practically shouted "Don't kiss me!" I wasn't trying to! There's something going on with her that's nothing to do with me. I imagine she's dealt with a fair number of sex pests in her past. In fact, when I first went in for the kiss after our first meetup (not a date, just a drink to discuss items of mutual interest) I leaned in for the makeout, so did she, but at the last minute she pulled back, before telling me basically "Ok mister show me what you've got."

It was one of the sweetest first kisses I've had in a long while.

I figured if I could get her into my home for a post-concert and party recap, I could bust a move. And she seemed to indicate, with her text the next day apologizing for hitting the wall energy-wise, that she might have been open to it.

That's my strategy. Get her isolated and go for it. I just don't it to seem too contrived, to let her think that it "just happened naturally."

In the meantime, I need to keep meeting new women. It's the only thing that works for me when I'm obsessing about "the one."
 

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Thanks @gameboy, it's complicated. Twice before when I went in for a hug, she practically shouted "Don't kiss me!" I wasn't trying to! There's something going on with her that's nothing to do with me. I imagine she's dealt with a fair number of sex pests in her past. In fact, when I first went in for the kiss after our first meetup (not a date, just a drink to discuss items of mutual interest) I leaned in for the makeout, so did she, but at the last minute she pulled back, before telling me basically "Ok mister show me what you've got."

It was one of the sweetest first kisses I've had in a long while.

I figured if I could get her into my home for a post-concert and party recap, I could bust a move. And she seemed to indicate, with her text the next day apologizing for hitting the wall energy-wise, that she might have been open to it.

That's my strategy. Get her isolated and go for it. I just don't it to seem too contrived, to let her think that it "just happened naturally."

In the meantime, I need to keep meeting new women. It's the only thing that works for me when I'm obsessing about "the one."

I see, that does make sense. It's always good to follow one's intuition.
 

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Update:
Nothing much to report. Been focused on work, plus allergies have gotten so bad I think it may have turned into a cold. My temperature is up a degree and I feel lackluster. Took off the afternoon to chill and handle a minor home repair.

I've got to scrape up a big chunk of money quick and it's wearing on me. The situation with the switch to Quickbooks online has really messed with my accounts receivable. I have very little confidence in who owes me and how much and for how long. I won't bore you with the details (too late you say?) but it's stressful.

During my mid-morning jaunt I went to check out the animal rescue center today. I'm looking for a dog, and I want it to be a specific dog - 25-40 pounds, short-haired, sweet, calm disposition, who loves to hike and play fetch.

Ulterior motive? There's a couple of cute volunteers there, none of them were in evidence today. Oh well. The dogs got me a little sad. Many just seemed un-adoptable - scary and aggressive or afraid of their own shadow. More than half were either Chihuahua or pit bull mixes, neither of which holds any interest for me.

There were a couple of cuties on the trail this morning. I made it a point to smile brightly and say "Hi!" with some enthusiasm, to one and all, men, women, children. It gets a nearly unanimously positive response. My next mission is to do a full stop with the one cutie with the high cheekbones and nice trim figure that I often see out and about early in the a.m. She's got an expressive face, Slavic-looking, her smile seems world-weary with a froideur of melancholy. Quite pretty and close enough to my age to make her a very plausible candidate for getting to know better.

I'm a little reluctant to spit game when I'm wearing a bike helmet. It's hard to project much 'rizz when you look like a special needs adult. But therein lies the irony - go without a helmet and end up being an actual special needs adult with traumatic brain injury.

Limerance Girl:
I'm going to text her and ask her to come out to shoot pool, which she suggested she'd love to do. As I look back, she brought up quite a few fun activities that she hasn't done — hot springs, concerts, checking out new restaurants - hint, hint that in ordinary circumstances I'd figure she was all but asking me out. But since she shot me down shortly after we had did the sexy deeds I'm afraid she's merely wanting to be friends. And I don't want to be friend-zoned until and unless I'm smashing. It's happened to me before, where I get stuck in the friend vibe with a girl and it removes my motivation to get after the ill na-na.
 
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I'm a little reluctant to spit game when I'm wearing a bike helmet. It's hard to project much 'rizz when you look like a special needs adult. But therein lies the irony - go without a helmet and end up being an actual special needs adult with traumatic brain injury.
:ROFLMAO:

Same here buddy!
 
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- texted Limerance Girl today saying let's go shoot some pool. With the hashtag #notadate. No reply 6-7 hours later. Oh well. I'm sure I'll eventually get a response, but it won't be one I like. Her tardiness is a clear signal I once again misread her interest. She seemed so into me at the Friday events that I thought she had changed her mind about abstaining from the horizontal polka and was ready to resume getting after it.

I'm going to keep moving on as if it's never going to happen. As if it never happened in the first place. If she gets back to me, eventually, I'll play it cool. Back

Update to my Update:
Weird! She just now texted "I'm always up for a #not-a-date!" Now I wish I hadn't introduced that phrase, which is an inside joke with us, because she is probably taking it in earnest. Now I'm not sure how to play it. I wanted to get her out tonight, but now I'm thinking it's a little eager-seeming. Tomorrow it's looking like, though I haven't gotten full confirmation.

This is the third time that she responded to my text while I was on this forum bemoaning her lack of response. There's some kinda superposition of intent going on in the quantum field that rips through here.

Good - Early this morning I did a full stop on the little cutie on the bike trail, the one I cross paths with most morning, with the expressively sad face. I said "Hey you look so much like someone I used to know years ago, is your name Katerina?" She pulled out her earbuds. "No, no." I asked "Are you Russian?" She said, "No I'm not." Could've sworn I heard a Russian accent. The girl looked like she was Russian in any event. "What is your name?" She said, "Not Katerina." OK then. "So not-Katerina, do you have another name or is it just not-Katerina?" She gave me a bright smile (finally!) and said, "Beverly." That was enough for now. I left her with that.

Excited about hanging out with Limerance Girl again. I'm still going to play it cool, no aggressive moves unless I feel she's giving off the fuck me vibe. I'm a little gun-shy given some recent incidents of me mis-reading the signals.

In Other News:
I got a message from a girl on Match that came through even though I've been off for several months. Not sure how that works. But she seems like a very classy blonde lady. We talked on the phone and she's quite engaging and funny. We're meeting up for the obligatory interrogatory coffee date on Sunday.
 
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- texted Limerance Girl today saying let's go shoot some pool. With the hashtag #notadate. No reply 6-7 hours later. Oh well. I'm sure I'll eventually get a response, but it won't be one I like. Her tardiness is a clear signal I once again misread her interest. She seemed so into me at the Friday events that I thought she had changed her mind about abstaining from the horizontal polka and was ready to resume getting after it.

I'm going to keep moving on as if it's never going to happen. As if it never happened in the first place. If she gets back to me, eventually, I'll play it cool. Back

Update to my Update:
Weird! She just now texted "I'm always up for a #not-a-date!" Now I wish I hadn't introduced that phrase, which is an inside joke with us, because she is probably taking it in earnest. Now I'm not sure how to play it. I wanted to get her out tonight, but now I'm thinking it's a little eager-seeming. Tomorrow it's looking like, though I haven't gotten full confirmation.
About the not-a-date thing: I first thought it was a bit cringy. But don't they say that the subconscious can't process negatives? So for the subconscious mind, it's like you said "date" :)

Anyway, just run it as usual. If you get her out that's always a good thing!

This is the third time that she responded to my text while I was on this forum bemoaning her lack of response. There's some kinda superposition of intent going on in the quantum field that rips through here.

Yeah, funny how that works!

In Other News:
I got a message from a girl on Match that came through even though I've been off for several months. Not sure how that works. But she seems like a very classy blonde lady. We talked on the phone and she's quite engaging and funny. We're meeting up for the obligatory interrogatory coffee date on Sunday.
So you got 2 dates and one name. Way to go!!
 

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Weekend Update:
Friday night #notadate with Limerance Girl was extremely fun. I didn't bang her, instead kept the vibe elevated with a lot of sweetness and good feelings. I'm not worried about being friend-zoned, at least not yet.

We hung out at a dive bar and shot pool. She's even worse than me, which is no small feat. We traded rounds of drinks as we played. Eventually someone else wanted to get on the table, so we played a game of doubles with a mom and her daughter. It was the daughter's birthday, she was quite cute and everyone had a friendly vibe. I thought we had nearly run the table and were closing in for the kill (Limerance Girl was no help) but mom ran five shots in a row and we were doomed. Oh well.

Then we sat out on the patio and chilled with our drinks, mostly to get away from the noise and the heat (no air-conditioning). Great conversation, getting to know each other on a more intimate level and playing around. I kept steering the topic to sexual topics, without being making her uncomfortable. Since last year's weirdness with the fashionably hippy girl who gave me a scolding about grabbing her ass (incidental graze) and tonguey-kisses (just enthusiastic lips smooches, no tongue) I've been cautious, looking for bad reactions and adjusting accordingly.

My game is pretty direct and that girl really caused me to question myself. Have I been getting away with making girls uncomfortable for years and they were just being polite? Or was this just an overly sensitive wokemistress?

Limerance Girl and I talked a lot our pasts, lessons learned, she was very interested in my answers, kept steering conversations back to earlier threads from prior times together, while I was actively trying to keep her doing most of the talking. It was probably about 55-45 percent her talking, while I was aiming for 80-20.

We were very touchy with each other - lots of side hugs, hand clasping, knee rubbing, eye gazing, etc. At one point she held up her feet and plopped them in my lap while she pointed out something. I said, "Girl you can't do that to me. I've got a foot fetish!" I don't, but her feet were really cute - long graceful toes and a lovely dancer's arch. I held up her big toe to my mouth and gave it a good kiss before dropping it back in my lap. I was worried I went too far, now I'm worried I didn't go far enough.

We talked about role play - or I did at least. She didn't seem to have as much experience as me. Since I'm an imaginative man I've got a lot of favorite scenarios besides the more common Naughty Nurses and such - Daddy's School for Wayward Girls, the Job Interview, Dorothy and the Wizard, the Priest & The Confessor, etc. She seemed to be eating it up.

We walked up to a nearby honky tonk for a look-see. The bouncer let us in without the cover charge. The band hadn't started yet and two side-by-side seats at the bar were open. We ordered another drink. There were a lot of young cuties milling around, now I know where they all go on a weekend night. I shall return!

Limerance Girl appeared uncomfortable at some point and asked me to ask her why after we were out of there. Turns out the barmaid had been giving her attitude the few times her and her friends had a girls' night out. I've known this barmaid for decades, since she was still in her teens, and it was hard to imagine her being anything but sweet. Oh well, girls can act different with each other.

We went back to the original dive bar and sat outside again until they were locking up. I said let's go back to mine. Told her "I'm not going to make a move on you. If it happens, it just happens. No big deal." She laughed it off, but didn't outright object.

I realized at some point that she was getting a little tipsy - four drinks! I was matching her and that was the most I'd drank in almost a year. I felt fine though, as I'm nearly twice her body weight. I said I'd be happy to drive her home, but she insisted. I should have insisted more, looking back on it now. We hugged and I clasped her hands tightly and put them around my waist. I said, "I'm not going to try to make out with you, but if you were to make out with me, you might get lucky." She gave me a sweet kiss, and I didn't push it.

I might have gotten a full takeout session, but I really want to play it cool and have her start chasing me. She texted me a few minutes later (we both live less than a mile away, but in different directions) and said let's make this lame pool night a regular thing. I was flying high afterward, like I'd played it cool but fun and flirty nonetheless, kept the sexual topics in the mix, got excellent compliance on my touching, got her touching me a lot as well. Now I wonder if she was drunk and regretted it. I don't know.

Saturday I kept to myself as I had some work to attend to and a few things around the house. I needed a quiet night to myself, as I was feeling a little forlorn about Limerance Girl. I tried to step outside my limerance bubble and observe her objectively. She's very pretty, but not that jaw-dropping gorgeousness like the ex-ex, or the sparkly brightness and curvy good fun of my most recent ex. But her sense of humor is pitched so perfectly to mine, that I feel like we're like in a perfect polarity of masculine and feminine energies. So even though she's not as hot as my most recent relationships, I'm just as smitten with her.

I texted her a few minutes ago, following up about favorite bands. We had a lot of overlap but she had a recommendation or two with which I was unfamiliar. Good stuff. I'm not sure what I'll do next --- ideally she'll reach out to me and I can get her out from there.

Online Update:
This morning I had my Match date. As I mentioned in an earlier update, this girl found me even though I'd closed out my account quite a few months ago. I forgot to ask how that happened. Maybe she's got some kind of upgrade.

She's very classy and quite cute, with the curvy hips that don't lie to my attraction triggers. We talked for an hour and a half about most everything. I didn't do the Cube, as it felt incongruent somehow and after I got shut down on an earlier attempt I'm a little wary about it. Still, I felt like we had an instant comfort level, and conversed on a wide range of topics.

A dear friend passed away this morning after a week on hospice care. The family has asked me to speak at her service. I'm really low about it, and, of course, they expect some good laughs. That's why they asked me. Not feeling like laughing about it. Not at all. She was taken far too soon. Tempis fugit my friends.

I also went to visit another friend who's in the hospital, age 94, who fell off his bike and fractured his femur. It's only been a week and he's already feisty and raring to get back on that bike. What a remarkable man!

There were a couple of cute nurses and a cute doctor on the ward and I could tell they all adored my friend. If I was on my game, I could have approached, and given the big silly smile on the one nurse especially, I might have gotten a number. Approach anxiety never gets easier.

Had a nice exchange on Father's Day with my son - he's booked us a couple of tickets to see our favorite football team this coming season. What a nice gift. I done good raising that boy.

I texted Match.com Lady a few minutes ago as well, just to say I enjoyed getting to know her. I'll leave it at that for now.
 

Casanova Newhouse

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Update:
Busted through a tough deadline the past couple of days. Finagled the finances to keep the boat afloat for awhile. I should be feeling somewhere between good and great. But that creeping dread is back - too many customers are not re-upping, new businesses aren't giving me the time of day.

I've got to hire a salesperson. I had an idea that actors would make good salespeople because it's a role, a part, and understanding that would give them an edge. Not necessarily true. Of the three actors I hired, only one was a good producer. For me to find a true saleswolf would change everything. I'd even turn over the business to the right person. I figure pickup and sales are much the same, and many salespeople I know are good with women.

It'd be much more economical, and personally rewarding, for me to keep improving at sales and meeting women - it's the fear of rejection that holds me back. A couple of "nos" today and I'm sulking in a pit of self-pity. I've got to adapt an outlook of positivity and resilience. Stoic.

Haven't had any approaches today or yesterday. I haven't seen the sad-faced little cutie lately, but I remember her smile when I teased her. She's very pretty and has a lovely tight little figure. I'm going to keep after her.

My office is on the second-floor above a busy parking lot. I often see cuties passing by and I tell myself it'd be fun to play "mistaken identity." When a cutie gets within earshot, say "Hey pretty girl!" or something to that effect. When she looks up, I'll say "Sorry I thought you were someone else. Oh well, you are just as pretty as who I thought you were." I don't know. It'd probably backfire, but I can't think of how. One time I did muster up the balls to say "Love your drip girl!" to one modestly attractive, very stylish women not long ago. She ate it up. I could've got her number but I wasn't feeling the love once I got a better look at her.

I've been fighting the urge to text the ex and meet up for a proper de-briefing on what went wrong. It felt as though she didn't like me - short-tempered and annoyed around me far too often. Plus she got even richer during the pandemic while I struggled. The income disparity got untenable and when she made a major purchase without consulting me I knew our days were numbered.

Still, it was the best relationship I've had - nine lovely years, then one that went a little sideways. I know many, if not most, men would have put up with it, but I just couldn't. My self-respect is too important to be around someone who doesn't feel supportive and on my team.

The fantasy is that my ex would realize what she did wrong and beg to get back together. It's been 18 months now and I can't believe I haven't found someone else yet. This is the longest I've been single since the '90s. I thought Limerance Girl was the answer, but the situation with her has shown me that I've got a lot of gaps in my game.

Speaking of which, I texted the classy Match lady for a meetup next week. She's game. I'll try to move it in a sexual direction, and failing that, bail out. In the meantime I've got to keep approaching, and try to get my approach anxiety under control.
 
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Update:
Been working on direct eye contact and a sly smile. It often, not always, gets a good reaction. I love it when a girl sees me smiling at her, then mirrors that smile back to me.

Yesterday I saw this tall, slender woman with a stylish hair cut. I couldn't tell if she was old or young but I guessed early 50s. Fine by me. I kept up my appreciative smile as she went into this boutique, even as she appeared to not notice me. Then, she snuck a look at me through the window. I added a slight head nod to go along with my smile, and she beamed. Wow, she was quite attractive, and of an appropriate age.

I wish I had the balls to approach and get her number. I had a feeling I would have some success, or at least a positive interaction. But there were people I knew, the shopkeeper in particular, who would have witnessed the whole thing, and so I shrugged and kept moving along.

Friday night a buddy texted me that he had a funny interaction with a girl we are both crushing on, making fun of her and her male friend ogling the full moon. "Ugly isn't it?" he said. They laughed. My reaction? Oh shit, she's got a man. Shitagaddamn!

Then I was thinking, if you were out on the town, why didn't you ask me to hang out? I swear I invest too much into my friendships and get little in return. At least it appears that way to me now, but it might be my avoidant attachment style speaking. I asked another friend to come out last night to listen to some talented musicians in a small venue, and he was quick to respond that he already had plans. No elaboration.

Of course, they owe me no explanations, but I wish I had a tight group of two or three friends with some charisma and zest for life. It gets harder as you get older to make friends. In my six years in the military, I never lacked for a group of guys to hang out and have fun with. There was an unspoken bond that came with knowing you had to look out for each other. Maybe I should check in with a few of the old gang, see how the past 40 years has treated them.

Saturday early I went to the beach to catch some sun and see what there was to see. A number of very attractive women in bikinis was what. There was no way to approach without being obvious so I let it go, and just enjoyed the scenery. Damn now I know where the hotties have been hanging out. I could have figured out some pretext or another to approach but my shyness fully kicked in. Plus I couldn't even tell if some of them were of legal age. I will be back.

That evening, after a delicious dinner, I forced myself to go out solo. It's been awhile and it was hard. I kept trying on one excuse after another, but eventually I told myself "Another lonely night at home, how are you going to feel about that?" It was now or never, I've got the next couple of weeks pretty booked up (which is good, I'll be out and about being social and have a chance to meet girls outside my social circle.

As soon as I parked, I saw a super-cutie, truly one of the hottest girls I've seen in days, struggling to get a recalcitrant frenchie puppy into her car. I really don't like these designer breeds, the poor dog could hardly breathe because of his smushed-in face, but I must admit he was pretty cute. I asked her how old the puppy was, she said a couple months old (no way, at least three more likely four) but I was in.

We chatted pleasantly for a solid five minutes. She was wearing yoga pants and a crop top, showing off her gleaming tight, yet soft belly, her perfect C or even D cup boobs, and her ass was truly spectacular. She was a brunette with a pixie cut and the biggest, softest blue eyes. I kept up a chatty patter, asking if she was getting overtime. Yes. What about hazard pay? I hear frenchies can turn mean on a dime.

She was dog-sitting for her boss and had already fallen in love with the puppy. I was smitten myself, but not with the dog. I ejected too early, didn't get her phone number or even her name. I should have at least gotten her boss' name or where she worked. She was happy to talk. What the hell was wrong with me? Was I afraid I was too old for her (she looked in her 20s)? So what? I dated two women in their 20s and another in her early 30s the first time I broke up with the ex, two years ago. My age was an asset, if anything. As I've mentioned earlier, for younger woman an older man is anywhere from 35 to 75, with few distinctions in between. If anything, the older the man the more clout for the young cuties.

The rest of the evening was fine, but nothing much happened. The musicians were great, not only talented but scholars of the genre. I enjoyed that very much. I saw no women intriguing enough to hit on, but I had a couple of fun catch-up conversations with some acquaintances, and did have an interesting interaction with a girl who knew me, who I could vaguely remember. She was clearly feeling it, and while she wasn't my type, it felt good to catch her acting silly because she thought I was cute.

I went home after about an hour, having proved to myself that I could do it. I wish a few more people had come along because the night was still young and it can get pretty wild after the witching hour. I was hoping to get swept up into an epic adventure, as has happened on more than few enchanted evenings.

I've got a date with the classy blonde with the sexy hips tomorrow at a fancy root-top bar. I didn't feel like I sexualized the conversation very well the first time. We talked easily and ranged widely, but that frisson of sexual tension was missing. So what? I've had many first dates where the frisson was missing, but it showed up eventually. I'm hopeful.

I texted Limerance Girl, even though I said I wouldn't, because it had been a solid week and I hadn't heard anything from her. It was just a ping, to see if she was up for a walk-n-talk. She had plans but was quick to suggest an alternative activity, first tomorrow, then Tuesday, neither of which worked for me, then Wednesday, before we settled on Thursday.

I really need to get some alternatives quickly, so I don't reek of neediness. I am feeling especially vulnerable recently because of the situation with the ex-ex reconciling with her husband, the ink on their divorce papers hardly dry. Why do I crave her so much? She was nothing but trouble for all of our five years together, during which she never even bothered to file for divorce from her first husband. Then, after I met the ex, and finally broke it off with her for good, she ended up divorcing and marrying this guy less than a year later. I should feel relieved that I dodged a borderline-personality-disorder bullet.
 

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I have similar feelings about friends. They come and go, but the older you get, the harder it is to make new ones, and the more old friends leave town or get married or what not.

Interesting thought that this, too, might be related to one's attachment style.
 
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Update:
No date with the classy blonde with the sexy hips. She texted last night to say that she's "been seeing a guy and he asked me to try being exclusive with him ... blah blah ... you are handsome and interesting ... wish you the best," and so on. I texted back, "So he's putting you on lockdown. Must be he's not into sharing then. Oh well I wish you luck." She thanked me. I wanted to reply "thanks for what? I didn't say what kind of luck did I?"

It didn't seem like she was all that enraptured by him. She was going to go on a date with me until he asked her not to? Hmm. I didn't want to say "if things don't work out, keep my numbers." That seemed a little needy somehow, like I'd be waiting around to find out.

So I texted Limerance Girl to see if she was up for moving our night out from Thursday to tonight. It took her a good four or five hours to reply, but yes, she was. My plan is to play it cool, be engaging and listen to what she says. I want to figure out if I'm wasting my time -- I truly am awful at reading signals. Right now I'm just killing time 'til we hang out.

My friends, both men and women, say she's obviously still interested in me, that no girl wants to be strictly buddies with a guy who gave her a good banging. She's being cautious and feels like she left herself emotionally exposed by jumping right into bed. But I don't have the confidence to "act as if" she wants a one-way ticket to bone town, to force the issue and "shit or get off the pot" as my dad would say. That if I busted a move it'd be the end of our friendship.

I want to post up another query about my quandary under General on the boards, but I know the advice will be some variation of "FTOW." I'm trying! Prospects are slim lately since I cut the online dating cord.

Saw the super-cutie with the pixie cut in the parking lot outside my office today. She must work nearby. I would love to get something started with her. She's a mix of Mia Farrow with a soupçon of Zoey Deschanel. With great tits and an even greater ass.

No sign of the sad-faced beauty on the trail. I'm sure she's out of town, otherwise she's out there most every morning. She is a serious walker, like a 20,000-stepper. I love that I got a smile from her. She was giving me a bit of stick, so I know she's got a good sense of humor.

My only approach today was to a very tall brown-skinned girl, very cute but a little too skinny for me. How tall are you? I asked. 5'11" she said. Wow you look taller! I know, Noel Coward could hardly have done better, but hey, it would have been much easier for me to say nothing. I've certainly got a lot more practice doing that.
 

Casanova Newhouse

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Quick Update:
Trivia last night. My buddy invited a very pretty girl I also know. I'm pretty sure he's hoping for a score, but I'd rate it as doubtful. I feel like we've had a vibe in our earlier interactions, but of course I could be wrong. Then again, it could be the reason she showed up in the first place is because she knows I am on the team. We are nerd royalty in our little town.

We won, surprisingly. A new team had toppled us the past three weeks and we were feeling insecure. We have dominated for years and years. So it felt good to be back in the saddle. New girl didn't necessarily bring any extra value, but she could confirm a few choices, and helped us use logic to figure out a few mental puzzles. She's a solid addition to our team.

She's a high-level professional, but very girly. Babydoll voice, pretty dresses, heels, hyper-feminine, right up my alley. If my buddy strikes out, I might make a move. A little too young perhaps, but isn't that for her to decide?

Monday with Limerance Girl: I acted very nonchalant, lots of playful teasing. She hovered around a lot whenever I'd stand still as we shot pool. She also made it a point to give me several compliments about my looks and professional accomplishments. I kept our flirting pretty platonic, but damn she is so fun to look at!

At one point, I did give her one long, intimate side squeeze into which she melted. Damn she smells and feels great! When we parted with a close lingering hug, I resisted the urge to kiss her. She'd acted a little gun-shy earlier when I would make a move for a quick, harmless smooch. Last week when we parted, I invited her to make out with me, and she gave me a very spare peck on the lips.

We had some very fun post-night banter via text, which she kept going even after I said I was hitting the hay. I think she might have felt a little isolated and wanted to feel the proximity of a big strong soldier man.

I'm thinking of telling her that I'm officially single (I've discovered that the ex-ex has reconciled with the husband she recently divorced - we tried on three separate occasions to reconcile and after getting her itchy clit scratched she picks fight, right on cue). Then ask her if she knows of any attractive women. It could backfire, but it could also be "shit or get off the pot" time. Maybe she'd feel like she'd have to start letting me know where I stand. If I'm truly just a friend, then she should have no trouble passing on some info. Hot girls often have hot friends in my experience, with important exceptions for BPD girls and pathological narcissists who don't want another girl stealing the limelight.

I definitely don't want her telling her girlfriends that "I know a great guy!" Because what they hear is "I know this guy, he's not good enough for me, but for you? He'd be terrific!" That doesn't play. Just give me their names and a little identifying information and I'll take it from there. I can concoct a pretext to run into them, then ask them out on a date, making it seem totally spontaneous. Kismet.

No approaches to speak of. I saw the melancholy cutie this morning on the trail, but she was too far ahead of me and moving too fast for me to catch up. I'm psyched to start chatting her up - starting with callbacks to the case of mistaken identity. "OK not-Svetlana, I figured it out. Witness protection program! I hope I haven't blown your cover!" Something like that, just gentle teasing, go for the number close right away.

She has a lovely tight little figure, much like Limerance Girl, and I definitely felt a stirring in my loins when we chatted briefly last week. Getting a smile out of her felt like a victory.
 
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