Hi, I'm new here, wanted to see if you guys have any advice.
Last Sunday, I went to a rub and tug massage place, saw a girl. She says her age was 23, I told her I'm thirty-something. She jerked me off, then I went home. She's pretty cute, so I booked her again the next day, but this time I wanted to ask her out. I asked if work was busy that day and if she's tired, she said yes. I offered to massage her instead of her massaging me, she said yes. I massaged her head, back, legs and feet. I asked if she's lives around the area, turns out her and I live in neighbour suburbs. I said we should hang out and try this new restaurant that opened in our suburb. She said she'll like to. After I massaged her, she asked if I want my turn. I wanted to stay away from being her 'client', so I said I don't want to make her more tired. She offered to lie down together at the massage table, and we hugged for the remaining time. We kissed on the lips, and exchanged contacts. At the end, when I offered to pay her, she initially declined, saying we're friends so I don't need to. But I still insisted to pay her. I even gave her a lift home that day.
2 days later, I messaged her to hang out with me the day after. I currently live with family, and she's renting with somebody else. I was thinking of pulling back to her place after or before the date, so I offered to deliver breakfast to her that morning, hoping to see what her living arrangements are like. I got there in the morning, but she came down and said actually her landlord doesn't allow her to have guests. So we ate in my car, and we took a train to the city. We played snooker, and went to karoake box. We held hands most of the time when we were walking. We went to photobooth, then we had lunch. After lunch, I suggested we buy some alcohol and find somewhere to drink and watch a movie. I have this app where I can book a hotel room during the day time. I kept it vague, without telling her exactly where we're going. I led her to the hotel, told her I'm not sure if they have a place, wait for me and I'll check. I got the room key, and we went to a alcohol shop to buy a few drinks. We went to the room, and watched a short movie. Then we hugged, and I swipe my hands through her legs, did some playful biting. Tried to finger her, but she kept stopping me and pulling my hands back up. This happend quite a few times. I tried to take off her shorts, she resisted for some time, then says we should get under the blanket. I tried to take off her shorts again, she resisted and says I should take off mine first. I did, then I took off her shorts. I tried to finger her over her underwear, but she again kept resisting and pulling my hands back up. I kept it playful and she's making slight moaning noises. She wouldn't let my hands touch her pussy, she would clench her butt together to stop me. At the end, i got her top and bra off, and we hugged in different positions, but she never let me finger her, and she also didn't jerk me off (only touched my penis briefly). We kissed on the lips multiple times, but didn't french kiss.
During the times I touched her pussy over the underwear before she pulled me away, she wasn't really that wet. I'm not sure if she's desensitised from jerking off guys every week or not. At the rub and tuck, she only offers handjobs, and she's a uni student at the moment.
In the evening, we left the hotel, grabbed dinner and I walked her home. We had plans to meet for dinner again today.
Guys, any advice?
Here's my own reflection:
- When she give me LMR, I could've asked her why she didn't want to be with me, because I wanted to be with her. Then I can know why she's resisting.
- More qualification needed? When in bed, she asked me if I do this with many girls, I said no, only her. She also told me it's her first time to be out "like this" with a guy. I told her I find her interesting and funny.
- More dirty talk needed?
I went for the hotel pull because it was day time, and I had nowhere else private to pull to. It was quite expensive, costed me over $500. I paid for lunch and entertainment too during the date. I know this might make me look invested, but I'm much older than her, so it feels weird if I ask her to share costs.
Next date, I might try to drive to a quite location at night and try to initiate there.
Last Sunday, I went to a rub and tug massage place, saw a girl. She says her age was 23, I told her I'm thirty-something. She jerked me off, then I went home. She's pretty cute, so I booked her again the next day, but this time I wanted to ask her out. I asked if work was busy that day and if she's tired, she said yes. I offered to massage her instead of her massaging me, she said yes. I massaged her head, back, legs and feet. I asked if she's lives around the area, turns out her and I live in neighbour suburbs. I said we should hang out and try this new restaurant that opened in our suburb. She said she'll like to. After I massaged her, she asked if I want my turn. I wanted to stay away from being her 'client', so I said I don't want to make her more tired. She offered to lie down together at the massage table, and we hugged for the remaining time. We kissed on the lips, and exchanged contacts. At the end, when I offered to pay her, she initially declined, saying we're friends so I don't need to. But I still insisted to pay her. I even gave her a lift home that day.
2 days later, I messaged her to hang out with me the day after. I currently live with family, and she's renting with somebody else. I was thinking of pulling back to her place after or before the date, so I offered to deliver breakfast to her that morning, hoping to see what her living arrangements are like. I got there in the morning, but she came down and said actually her landlord doesn't allow her to have guests. So we ate in my car, and we took a train to the city. We played snooker, and went to karoake box. We held hands most of the time when we were walking. We went to photobooth, then we had lunch. After lunch, I suggested we buy some alcohol and find somewhere to drink and watch a movie. I have this app where I can book a hotel room during the day time. I kept it vague, without telling her exactly where we're going. I led her to the hotel, told her I'm not sure if they have a place, wait for me and I'll check. I got the room key, and we went to a alcohol shop to buy a few drinks. We went to the room, and watched a short movie. Then we hugged, and I swipe my hands through her legs, did some playful biting. Tried to finger her, but she kept stopping me and pulling my hands back up. This happend quite a few times. I tried to take off her shorts, she resisted for some time, then says we should get under the blanket. I tried to take off her shorts again, she resisted and says I should take off mine first. I did, then I took off her shorts. I tried to finger her over her underwear, but she again kept resisting and pulling my hands back up. I kept it playful and she's making slight moaning noises. She wouldn't let my hands touch her pussy, she would clench her butt together to stop me. At the end, i got her top and bra off, and we hugged in different positions, but she never let me finger her, and she also didn't jerk me off (only touched my penis briefly). We kissed on the lips multiple times, but didn't french kiss.
During the times I touched her pussy over the underwear before she pulled me away, she wasn't really that wet. I'm not sure if she's desensitised from jerking off guys every week or not. At the rub and tuck, she only offers handjobs, and she's a uni student at the moment.
In the evening, we left the hotel, grabbed dinner and I walked her home. We had plans to meet for dinner again today.
Guys, any advice?
Here's my own reflection:
- When she give me LMR, I could've asked her why she didn't want to be with me, because I wanted to be with her. Then I can know why she's resisting.
- More qualification needed? When in bed, she asked me if I do this with many girls, I said no, only her. She also told me it's her first time to be out "like this" with a guy. I told her I find her interesting and funny.
- More dirty talk needed?
I went for the hotel pull because it was day time, and I had nowhere else private to pull to. It was quite expensive, costed me over $500. I paid for lunch and entertainment too during the date. I know this might make me look invested, but I'm much older than her, so it feels weird if I ask her to share costs.
Next date, I might try to drive to a quite location at night and try to initiate there.
