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Background Context/Observations
When reading reports in the past I've found guys adding their thoughts most useful so will try do this throughout
Got back into the game this year to rebuild my rotation and currently sat at 5/7 lays to dates (all from online with the exception of this report)
5/7 sounds "good" but to put it into perspective a good friend is on 12/12 for 2024 so far... Important to share this to show guys what's possible.
Think online is a great way to get some quick momentum that helped me with this lay. I was trying to go straight to offline and struggling as documented here lol.
In the field I've noticed the shift that Teevster wrote an article on here.
When sexual prizing (which helps a lot with increasing conversion rates)
Comfort gives a bigger impact than non-judgmental frames these days
The Day/Night
Club Approaches
If you go out enough you will start to notice patterns in which girls are DTF or not. I de-briefed on the night with my friends and it was interesting that all x3 of us gave the identical sets of girls who we thought had the highest chance of being pulled.
The rest of the night was me saying "how's your night going", "you look bored" with a smirk on my face or like xyz thing about her and not getting much. It hits 3am and I tell my friend (wing 2) I'm going and wing 1 left about 1 hour ago when I was talking to the Asian girl. Wing 2 tries to stall me with "5 minutes" but I know this guy plans to burn it to the ground until close (4am) so I left him and ran for my tube.
Tube Approach
Train to my place
While speaking to her on the platform and on the train I basically have a mini-date.
My place
This girl could talkkkkkk. Although she was self aware and would ask me to talk about myself too at times. In the past I've been too mysterious so gave her safe chick-crack stuff that makes a girl feel like she "knows you" without you saying much. I gave us water and started preparing my green tea
Sex/After-thoughts
Pretty good. Nothing that blew my mind but I liked her enthusiasm to give head, age (think she's about 22), submissiveness and more affectionate style. The girl had to leave mine at 5am because she had a brunch in 5 hours with her friends at 10am lol. Seemed all cute and apologetic about leaving but I said it's all good, kissed her and booked her an uber.
Could potentially make a nice coachable FB as she lives close to me but let's see. I'm in a phase of not really caring about retention as I'm actually finding it easier (right now) to just get girls when I need it vs force keeping girls round who I'm not all that compatible with.
Onwards and Upwards x
- Went clubbing with some fun natural wings
- Pinged constantly in the bar/club and got some bites and a number but no girl down to come home
- Said bye to my friend at 3am who wanted me to stay "5 more minutes" which I know means 2 hours lol
- Met a cute student on the platform while waiting for my tube
- Built comfort, teased and pinged her buying temperature with "should we carry on the night?" she replied "where" & knew it was game on
- Baby stepped her to a bar (that I said had a "50/50" chance of being open) then my place
- Had water, chit chat then escalated without getting any LMR
Full Version:
Background Context/Observations
When reading reports in the past I've found guys adding their thoughts most useful so will try do this throughout
Got back into the game this year to rebuild my rotation and currently sat at 5/7 lays to dates (all from online with the exception of this report)
5/7 sounds "good" but to put it into perspective a good friend is on 12/12 for 2024 so far... Important to share this to show guys what's possible.
Think online is a great way to get some quick momentum that helped me with this lay. I was trying to go straight to offline and struggling as documented here lol.
All my online LRs are a copy and past of this report here
In the field I've noticed the shift that Teevster wrote an article on here.
When sexual prizing (which helps a lot with increasing conversion rates)
Comfort gives a bigger impact than non-judgmental frames these days
The Day/Night
light blue oxford shirt, brown shearling jacket, black skinny jeans, black doc marten boots, 69 cancer pendent chain, 2 rings and a bracelet with Vibrant Leather Perfume from Zara
A lifestyle change I've made is to work from cafes on weekends. Currently building a list of venue gems that I'm discovering when exploring. This helps me stay productive and run day game too. I gave a few pings throughout the day e.g. "I was after that bus too aha" to a girl who ran and missed the bus. No bites but it's good to maintain the habit
My good wing calls me up. Fast forward I invite another mutual friend and it's 3 of us pre-drinking at his apartment with a balcony that overlooks London. Really cool to see the progress of my friend... Over the past 2 years I've seen the guys around me level up and it's inspiring to see. We joke, laugh and go to the club
Club Approaches
If you go out enough you will start to notice patterns in which girls are DTF or not. I de-briefed on the night with my friends and it was interesting that all x3 of us gave the identical sets of girls who we thought had the highest chance of being pulled.
1. Having fun but not *too* much fun. E.g. dancing laughing but not going overboard / crazy. Former is down for a fun experience, the latter will likely be a hyper-time waster
2. Receptive to conversation and reciprocates your investement. E.g. asks you questions, asks your name, compliments you and comfortable with touch
3. When you drift away or leave, they become happier when you return and visibily more animated
4. When you seed after party or going somewhere else after they don't recoil or look bored and instead neutrally consider it or ideally enthusiastically agree and ask "how far away do you live?"
5. Her friends don't get protective when you start dancing a little more sexually and completely leave her to it
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2. Receptive to conversation and reciprocates your investement. E.g. asks you questions, asks your name, compliments you and comfortable with touch
3. When you drift away or leave, they become happier when you return and visibily more animated
4. When you seed after party or going somewhere else after they don't recoil or look bored and instead neutrally consider it or ideally enthusiastically agree and ask "how far away do you live?"
5. Her friends don't get protective when you start dancing a little more sexually and completely leave her to it
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These girls were going for itttttttttt. I complimented on how much fun they were having and they immediately turned to face me and my friend started making conversation and dancing with us. All was good until my wing got his girl into auto-rejection by putting his hand up for a high-five then took it away. So small but vibe never returned lol. He's a very good looking guy so I've noticed he has to be extra attainable so girls don't check-out
This was our best chance of the night with me and my wing. Me and wing 1 opened but wing 2 came in and basically replaced wing 1 lol. Game is the game ahaha in his defence he accurately read that wing 1 was losing the girl and she ended up being more into wing 2. A little gambit I like to do to be playful and get girls chasing is ask them to say my name and 5/10 when they forget pretend to walk away and say their name to prove a point at which they'll usually grab me to stay and ask for my name or in this case go on the charm offensive. Anyway I think wing 2 came in a little tooooo strong by seeding after party too soon (literally 3 minutes in) and the girls were having fun then grabbed each others hands and left 
I've recently deployed an 18-25 rule for dating but this girl slipped through the nettttt. Gorgeous, just my type (Asian wise) interior designer from LA. I pinged her with "how's your night going" and she was receptive. Later on in the night was cool with her friends, isolated her in a booth and ran a mini-date / number closed and despite putting feelers out there to come home with me she didn't bite
The rest of the night was me saying "how's your night going", "you look bored" with a smirk on my face or like xyz thing about her and not getting much. It hits 3am and I tell my friend (wing 2) I'm going and wing 1 left about 1 hour ago when I was talking to the Asian girl. Wing 2 tries to stall me with "5 minutes" but I know this guy plans to burn it to the ground until close (4am) so I left him and ran for my tube.
Tube Approach
I miss my train and have to wait 5 minutes for the next one. It's then that I notice this girl walk past me and being in a "pinging" mood I give her a "Did you also rush to get this train like I did?" she smiles and says yes but keeps walking to sit down. Funnily enough this was a very similar ping to what I did earlier in the day (just realizing that now as I type it) it shows it's key to just keep putting feelers out there until you get a bite... That's all seduction really is.
Irish american, denim jacket, baggy grey jeans, black boots and hazel eyes with a fringe cut. Here in the U.K to study a masters
I walk towards her and sit down but leave 3 seats of space between us. Before sitting down I tell her "I'm very conscious it's 3am you mind if i sit here?" She agrees. I do this to show I "get it" and won't be weird I then ask her how her night is going and deep-dive about what brings her to London, as we get into a conversation flow I move up a few seats and sit right next to her
The tube arrives and we sit next to each other and keep talking. I have my friend trying to call me and I don't answer saying, "if it was up to this guy I'd be up until like 6am ahaha" she says "OMG same I left my friends too" and I ping with a soft "should we be going somewhere else?" she replies with "Where" and I know it's game on
Train to my place
While speaking to her on the platform and on the train I basically have a mini-date.
- Deep dive on what brings her to the city
- Tease her for going to a "terrible bar" and dragging her friends who're visiting her there
- Qualify her on being creative and open minded especially for an American (say that respectfully for all my US cousins lol)
- Make her comfortable about meeting a stranger by bringing up female intuition gambits & how it's accurate about reading guys
- Say I get it and do what you need to do when she starts texting her friends to keep them up to date with her movements
- I "baby-step" her by saying I know a bar near mine that has a 50/50 chance of being open at 3:30 am. I knew it wouldn't be but wanted to get her comfy
- When we go to the bar and it's closed I just say plan B let's have some green tea at mine and carry on this convo that I'm enjoying
My place
This girl could talkkkkkk. Although she was self aware and would ask me to talk about myself too at times. In the past I've been too mysterious so gave her safe chick-crack stuff that makes a girl feel like she "knows you" without you saying much. I gave us water and started preparing my green tea
- Siblings and your relationship with them
- Parents and your relationship with them and how they treat you better when you left the home
- Your family tree and family stories
- Personalities of your friends and why you love them
- Your life story so far e.g. cities you've lived, places you've travelled and what experiences you've enjoyed most
- I tried to talk about more romantic/sexual topics at my place but the conversation would just steer elsewhere or she wouldn't give much
- Rather than force it I realized she probably didn't need it and switched to non-verbal escalation e.g. eye contact, looking at lips then her eyes, stroking her thigh, then bringing her closer
- Eventually went for the kiss, she was super receptive and after heating things up, picked her up and went to my bed as "it had more space"
- While we were undressing she mentioned she was on her period I calmly said "that doesn't bother me" and pulled out my rug
- She goes to the bathroom to take out her tampon and we proceed as normal
- Once upon a time this would throw me off but I've seen it so many times now I've realised if it's not a problem for you, it won't be a problem for her
- Often times girls use the period excuse because something else is missing I.E feeling of comfort and/or intense arousal for you
Sex/After-thoughts
Pretty good. Nothing that blew my mind but I liked her enthusiasm to give head, age (think she's about 22), submissiveness and more affectionate style. The girl had to leave mine at 5am because she had a brunch in 5 hours with her friends at 10am lol. Seemed all cute and apologetic about leaving but I said it's all good, kissed her and booked her an uber.
Could potentially make a nice coachable FB as she lives close to me but let's see. I'm in a phase of not really caring about retention as I'm actually finding it easier (right now) to just get girls when I need it vs force keeping girls round who I'm not all that compatible with.
Onwards and Upwards x
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