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Hey gentlemen I just got back from Miami and pimped fucking hard. I can feel the progress I made and have new found inspiration to go out and rule Orlando.
I went to Miami for the RSD Winter Summit. It was an extremely awesome experience to be surrounded by the top dudes in the field of seduction as well as having the opportunity to network with some extremely ambitious and talented seducers in the audience. If you get the chance to go I highly recommend going to an RSD program (Free tour, Hot Seat, Or Winter/World Summit) as you will learn a lot, get to see some of the best infield pickup footage in the world, and get the opportunity to meet some really on point people (and avoid the not so on point people haha).
I will say that RSD is a bit "cultish". On Saturday of Summit they did the Hotseat Transformational experience with live exercises where they break the entire 200 people in the room into groups. Then each member in each group takes turns dancing, jumping, and expressing themselves in whatever way they possibly want with the goal to feel what it's like to be truly free from the binds of social pressure. Well this is cool and all but then you turn around and the next thing you know you see 3 RSD dudes sandwiched between one another dry humping on the floor...
Yeah that's a random sample of the RSD crowd for you... 25% really solid on top of it dudes, 25% theory junkies that have watched every RSD video that average 20 approaches per year, 25% that go out regularly yet aimlessly and never improve, and another 25% that attend with the gun barrel in their mouth with hopes that the RSD seminar will change their mind on pulling the trigger to end their existence.
Nonetheless a great experience.
So each day I go to seminar and hear top notch seducers speak about their top insights in seduction as well as see their best video infield. You leave each night super inspired to hit it hard and shake shit up.
Here is each of the three report in chronological order of each night. The first report is pretty funny and details my role play with an more "senior woman" (29 yrs.) portraying her as my mother. The second report details my finding a cute yet petite Asian girl about my age and how I pulled her, her friend, and a random wing from the club back to my place (details strong leading and dealing with logistics on the fly). The last report is the third night in which I did not get laid but get very close on a night where I had almost zero energy and a formerly rough start.
Each report is from the same bar/club in Miami South Beach called "Mangoes". This is a great spot to go if you're on a budget in South Beach ($5 cover vs. typical $30-80 cover on the average Miami clubs). Also note that this place is about a 5 minute walk to where I was staying and thus had great logistics.
I've made effort to outline each report notably so you can skip to whichever report you most desire and browse through.
Enjoy!
LR: Incest with My Mother
I'm taking in the scene at this "Mangoes" bar, propped up comfortably against the bar, my gaze adrift into the club lights.
I'm still pissed off where at this shitty club (this was before I liked the bar better) and I keep thinking to myself that no matter what, any girl I see that I want is mine because I'm by far the highest value guy in the venue.
I had hopes of being in Story or Liv nightclub partying it up with some of the more talented seducers I met at Summit earlier that day but didn't have the budget to afford it. Oh well better to focus on the moment and enjoy myself.
As soon as I tell myself this I look to my right and a thick legged Latina woman with a tight dress on is tapping on my chest to ask me a question.
Her: "Where are you from?"
This girl is with a few friends that aren't nearly as attractive and have been bobbing around the back corner of the bar where we were situated now for a while. They've been talking to a few quite elder gentlemen now in between as well one aged about 45 and the other aged about 55, both unattractive. The 45 year old has been talking to the girl that just opened me the most.
We start chatting, I meet her friends, and I find out they're all out for a bachelorette party to celebrate they're friend getting married. I tell them their bachelorette accessories suck and I'm very unimpressed. They laugh and I think my girl slaps my chest for being obnoxious.
She then asks me my age. I tell her to guess.
Note I'm purposely disqualifying myself in an effort for her to hopefully reach out on a limb and save me with the implication women do not prefer young men. Also note that I delivered this statement with a noticeable lack of care and indifference for if she did leave me because of my age. She knows I don't care about the outcome of this interaction.
So here she's qualifying her beliefs and investing in my by telling me she's not going to leave me which is exactly what I was hoping for when I said this line.
A lot of guys when they say this (and I still do) will do it the wrong way and instead get a "no it's okay! you shouldn't be insecure about your age." So shoot for doing the former.
So were joking about this silly role play and how I'm going to impregnate my mother. Throughout this time I'm pulling her in close to me, wrapping my arm around her lower back and pulling her into me tightly.
We go and chat to my friend Luis who is chatting it up with another girl I pushed a girl onto him that wasn't going to well for me earlier. I introduce her to Luis and chat with the other friend again and we make a mini party. They're all laughing and hanging out and I kind of watch the three of them chat it up and hang off to the sidelines for a minute.
Mixing Shit Up
Then this blonde German girl I isolated earlier and moved around the club with walks by and I pull her into me in hopes that she'd see my pre-selection and flip around for me but she pats me on the shoulder and keeps walking. I wave at her dismissively with a mocking look of disgust on my face (jokingly acting here).
I turn back to my girl who is briefly got a glimpse of what just happened and is intrigued to make me hers but at the same time on the verge of auto-rejection in fear I'm going to throw her away for another girl.
I pull her back into me and resume conversation where we were and take things a bit more personal and connect with her so that I can rid her notion of auto-rejection and build investment into me.
We're leaning against the bar holding hands and talking and her friends and the old 45 year old dude that was with her group originally that I mentioned starts talking to her. I continue holding her hand as she faces the dude but not with the strength of holding onto her hand in a needy way (hard to describe that lol).
I'm leaning up right next to my wing and his girl so I see this come up and I know that I'm waaaaaaayyyy better than the competition here so I see no threat and I merely give a bored look, turn my face away from the girl and the competition talking, and chat my wing and his girl up while still holding her hand.
She doesn't let go and after about 2 minutes I see the dude kind of give up for the time being and go back to the main group of friends to where my girl reengages me.
We keep talking and I tell her we should go grab a nightcap together since the club is about to close and go spend time outside this shitty club. She agrees and I tell her we're going now she agrees but tells me she needs to tell her friends first.
I say "great idea let's go tell them now" and take her hand and lead her over to her friends.
Destroy the Dude, lead the day
We get to her friends and she's informing them of her decision. You know the typical girl talk jazz.
Well right as soon as she's done telling her girlfriends of her decision the old ass 45 year old dude (who I still have no idea of his relationship to the group) comes back up and starts chatting her up again and is apparently quite excited at himself for having the balls to come into our interaction yet again. However to my astonishment the girl the is entertaining him like he's actually cool.
No this guy is not going to derail this shit.
I take her hand that is closest to me
I say this in a very dominant and commanding way. I am not reacting to this guy but am merely communicating my boundary with her that I'm not going to waste my time here and I don't give a shit about her relationship with this old dude.
She complies readily to my leadership and I quickly lead her away from him and the friends... I look back and the guy has a sincerely sad look on his face as he comes into grips that some 22 year old horny shithead just took away the girl he bought multiple rounds of shots for.
We start walking towards my apartment (air BNB) and we keep up our motherly son incest role play we have going on making plenty of obnoxious and obscene jokes.
We get up in my apartment and before we enters she says
Haha got to love older women! Tell it like it is right?
So we get in the apartment, I get her to take her shoes off, and I go pull her into the bedroom. She puts up no last minute resistance and I start railing her out pretty hard. We both get to climax and right after we both cum I say:
Aftermath
It turns out this girl hadn't had sex in over a year and my taking her home that night was the highlight of her year so far. I was happy to be of service
Also I got the back story on the 45 year old guy chasing her around at the bar and it turns out that he was their waiter at the restaurant that they went to earlier when the got dinner and was flirting with her the whole night and persistently talked them into going to Mangoes with them. They relented and he'd been trying to get with her all night but she wasn't too sold on him.
When I was walking her home later that night to her apartment she told me how much she liked it when I cut him off and led her out of the situation.
So the lesson is make sure you do not withhold sex from women because you never know how bad they need your dick and don't be afraid to X-out a dude in your way... it might make her night!
LR: I Hate Mangoes
This is night two of my trip to Miami. This was a Thursday and I promised myself after the previous night that I would never return to Mangoes again. We made a pretty critical decision to go out to a legit South Beach spot.
So at seminar Derek introduced me to a few more of his past alumni and we decided we were going to go to Story nightclub, one of the hottest places in South Beach.... well typically :/
So we chose unwisely.
The DJ of the night was A$AP Rocky. Which I personally do not hate his music but the crowd that was attracted this night was sub-par and ghetto as fuck. I did meet one of the hottest girls on the dance floor and have her on me quite easily (gorgeous gorgeous blonde bombshell) but the friends fucking drug her away after about 10 minutes of us hanging out and leading her around.
After this I hit up probably 15 more girls and having a pretty slow night. The club was really dead that night for Story and the place was infested with RSD dudes so we burned the club down pretty fast.
We get out of the club probably around 2 AM and were thinking of where to go next. Someone suggests Mangoes.
"Surely their must be somewhere else open and close by!"
The group wanted to go and I did admit it had the best logistical situation out of any other option.
Back to Mangoes
So I get in the club again and the first thing I do is watch my buddy approach a pretty hot girl in high heels and a dress. I then look over to my left and see RSDJulien looking pretty crazy and in his head looking off into space about 10 feet away. It was a pretty weird sight to see that I had to double take. I'm so used to seeing him in video's being up on a girl being at the cause of the environment it was weird to see him looking stuck in his head.
As I go around the club I keep seeing different RSD instructors, it's like being in a video game or some shit haha. RSD Sam, RSD Madison. Whatever I still feel entitled to every girl in this lame club just as much as I did the night before.
I see this cute petite Asian girl with her somewhat fat friend. I open the Asian girl and she is quite receptive. I pull her into me and she is quite receptive to that. Out of nowhere the fat friend miraculously leaves. Holy Shit awesome I don't even have to say hi to the fat friend.
Immediately we have a sort of heated banter which I win and then we trade names.
I start deep diving her and find out she's 22 and I really probe her hard on who she is and what she is going to do with her life. The vibe shifts from really fun/playful to really serious in a matter of a few sentences and she starts qualifying herself to me to make her future plans for her life sound really awesome.
I like her answers so I move/lead her over to another side of the bar where I order a water and we continue talking. We flirt and banter a bit more and things are going great. The whole time I can see her eye's dilating and becoming bigger. I know I can pull her soon so I do.
I lead her outside and we sit down at a table for a second for her to smoke a cigarette (eww... but it's already 3AM and every other girl in the club either has an instructor or other RSD rando hitting on her so I figure I best not overly focus on the cigarette).
Here is a bit more deep diving on how she's going to become a child's psychiatrist and save the world and I rant about the epidemic of the modern man in dating to which she enjoys listening to.
Pulling with the group
I then take her by the hand and start walking towards my house to which she puts up resistance to talking about her friend is still inside and they don't have cell phones to reach each other.
I realize this is a reasonable objection so I take her idea as if it were mine and say
She is happy that I'm understanding of her need so I lead her back into the club and the search begins for the fat friend!
I lead her through the club and through each of the rooms to see if we can spot her friend. Along the way we turn one corner and RSD Jeffy is posted up on a pillar in the room watching one of his students nearby... he doesn't look happy to be at Mangoes.
We continue looking for her friend but cannot find her to no avail.
I decide that we will just post up and wait for her to come to us and hangout for a bit in the meantime.
About two minutes later she says "I think I see her!!" and take my hand to lead me over there to which I drop her hand out of disgust for not wanting to be led around the club by my girl.
We get over to her friend and lo and fucking behold she's chatting with one of the RSD dudes that is an alumni with Derek. Haha fuck yeah.
Him and his girl are having a great time together and I tell him the gameplan is to follow my lead as we are going to an afterparty at my place. The club is getting close to leaving so we tell our girls that we know of an epic afterparty and that we're going to go to it together and we lead them out.
On the way out I see RSDMadison and he gives me a fist bump on the way out... gotta love chill black dudes.
So we're talking about afterparty epicness and we get to my apartment block and we have to go down this alley to get to the entrance and they're asking "are you sure this is where the afterparty is?"
Me: "Of course looks can be deceiving you'll both love it once we get inside!"
So we go down the alleyway and open the door to the apartment block.
We go up the stairs and enter the hallway where my apartment is.
There is not a sound of an afterparty. The girls ask "Is this your apartment"
Key in the door, door open, look at girl "Yes", and walk inside.
They all follow.
Now that we're inside I tell everyone to take their shoes off and I tell my girl I'm going to show her the tour of the place. (there's three rooms altogether haha)
I show her my room and pull her inside and start making out with her. She reciprocates and we get busy together
Funny story with roommates
So while we're having sex the fat friend and my newfound wing are on the couch making out. The next thing they know my roommate gets back from the club empty handed and tired, looks at the people on his couch and is wondering who the fuck these people are and if he's in the right apartment. He double takes and then they look up and realize they've been walked in on.
The girl then bolts up and heads to the bathroom in embarrassment or something. My newfound wing says "What the fuck man we were just about to get it on!! Dude I was soo fucking close!"
Roommate: "Dude just go walk in the bathroom with her"
Wing: (face is in deep thought processing the new information until lights blink on) "HEY! You're right!" (Bolts up and enters bathroom)
Roommate: sighs and grabs the handcream off his dresser
FR+: Fucking Sooo Close
So after the last night at Mangoes I told myself come hell or high water I'm not going to end back up at Mangoes tonight!
I was also super motivated to pull off a hat trick and pull as girl this night.
We went to a slew of free cover bars that we were told were good places to go to and were absolutely terrible. Weird unattractive, unreceptive crowds with cagey mean women in them.
Then the group I was with got excited to go midtown Miami out of South Beach to a spot they claimed was really good. I wasn't going to fight them on it so we head off to midtown Miami.
We get there 20 minutes to closing time, unknowingly, and it's about 2:10 right now.
Also my energy just reached an all time low and I was mega tired from low sleep the past two nights and I was just having a terrible time... not to mention that there were 3 fat girls for every skinny girl. Just not a good idea to come down this way.
So we pack up shop here and head back over the bridge to South Beach. One of the guys throws out the idea "Mangoes?"... at this point in the game? Sure.
So the next thing I know I'm back, once again, at fucking Mangoes. Well it's starting to grow on me what can I say.
Banging the Guns
So I start hitting it up in the club and things are going SLOW. I'm excited though because the quality of girls is much higher this night than it was the previous two nights and there are a few stunners walking around which is nice.
I'm getting blown out quite a bit and trying to force it with the girls that aren't blowing me out. I'm trying to get my energy up and stay fucking awake for this shit and all I keep putting through my mind is "get the Hat trick, three girls in a row, no excuses!"
I know I'm just looking for a girl to hook and follow my lead so I get my mind right and continue approaching.
There's like this spectrum of being a fun natural vs. being a pick up dude. I personally resonate more with being a natural and I seek to emulate coming from that paradigm the majority of the time just because I think it yields better results and its more fun. However sometimes I have bad/off nights or if I'm just gangstering it out and screening for one girl where I fall more into the being a pick up dude category and I'm just mass shot gun approaching everyone. A time and place for everything.
So I meet about three girls in a row. First is a stunning hot blonde German that I think I could've got hooked into me if I were more charismatic, wittier, and had higher energy but to no avail. Second girl hooked and we got along decently. I moved the 2nd one around and I thought this was going to be my girl for the night. We chatted, her friends all loved me, but when I moved with this girl one on one I ran out of things to say (she was doing a poor job of carrying the conversation) and we really just didn't click all that well. She was not challenging or that fun so we said our farewells and I went to find a new girl.
Third Times a Charm
Third girl I met right after this one hooked harder than the 2nd girl, we had instant chemistry, and like magic with her I had tons of witty cool shit to say that came out of nowhere. We danced a bit, I led her around the club, and met her friends who once again loved me. I moved this girl away from her friends for a bit and we talked, deep dove, and bantered more. I told her about an awesome afterparty we could go to and she decided that would be great.
We went to go collect her friends and one of them was a more dominant social butterfly personality and wanted to talk to every fucking person she saw haha. Plus there were loads of dudes approaching them.
We little by little lead them out of the club until we're on the street and now there's even more guys approaching all of them.
I go to talk to the two friends with aims of strategically pairing them up with two guys that will be able to lead the day and not fuck shit up. I turn back to my girl and theres two dudes talking to her. God damn now I have to go pry her back away.
My girl has a scarf so I tug her scarf to which she responds to and I slowly pull her around and pull her into me and tell her to put her scarf around me (that way she can't easily leave me with some rando if I momentarily separate from her again).
I see a few guys I know that are good with women and throw them on the friends but to no avail they can't understand each other (these are Argentinians) and so they bail. Then out of no where two obvious RSD dudes come in and apparently speak Spanish and are capable of communicating well with the two friends and appear to not be totally hated by them. This will work for now I think.
Pulling with the Randos
So I get the group walking and away from the god damned hoard of dudes approaching these 3 girls.
I'm more focused on having fun with my girl and I heard one of the RSD randos say something about an afterparty so I assume they're leading us somewhere cool.
The next thing I know we're at a pizza shop. I guess that's cool. Pizza and then jet off to afterparty. Perhaps these guys just need to build some comfort with their girls before they feel comfortable. I try to suggest to my girl to ditch her friends multiple times but she is very loyal and decided on staying with them. At the same time she's all over me, touching me, looking at me extremely sexually, and I'm just hoping these dudes no what they're doing and have a game plan.
The 4 of them go get and start eating pizza and my girl and I are just flirting, deep diving, and dropping sexual innuendos and thoroughly enjoying ourselves to no end.
In the back of my mind I'm playing out the logistical options:
1. pull the group to some afterparty location (their or one of the RSD dudes places as I don't have room to accommodate everyone at my place).
2. isolate my girl (already established she was sticking with her friends, though I could use a hard push)
3. Ditch the dudes and go with the group back to their hotel
4. Mystery logistic---------------------> FUCK HER IN THE PIZZA SHOP BATHROOM
I did not opt for #4 because I did not think of it until the morning after but it was the winning option by far and I'm still kicking myself for not thinking about this at the time.
In my mind I'm still shooting for option #1. The guys are doing decent by the looks of it with their girls so surely they're having a plan of some sort lined up that is favorable... I assumed wrong.
But before I get to this part of the story there's one more part I need to add that rendered my night fucked...
She Tests and I
Fucking fail.
So I've positioned myself as a pretty alpha dude in this girls eyes thus far and she's been very receptive to it as a result.
We're talking and I ask her what she likes me so much. She says a few reasons and I also point out that I'm a strong leader to which she agrees and then counters her agreeing with this:
I think typically I would've saw right through this would've disregarded this or said something witty but I think I was so tired and unable to think straight I started fucking explaining myself to her and its the wildest thing to see a girl super attracted to you steadily see the attraction literally drain out of her eyes and face to a solemn look of disappointment. Hahaha it fucking sucked.
But I figured fuck just wipe it under the rug surely I can fit one small mistake in there.
I turn to the guys. Its been 30 minutes by now and it is time to make a move so I ask them what the gameplan is.
They start agreeing and look to their girls and I shit you not. They start trying to sell, literally sell features/benefits/trial close and everything the idea of going back to a club or a strip club. I'm shaking my head in disbelief.
I interject. "No! We're going to an afterparty, lead them to an afterparty." They nod their heads and in such a low value way start trying to sell the girls on the idea of an afterparty.
No these girls closed their openmindedness towards these guys as soon as they came up with the idea to back pedal and go to another club, they're done.
I get up and show them how to lead properly... don't aks, tell.
I go over to the main alpha girl and all eyes are on me. I flirt with her for a second, get her to take my hands, get her to stand up, and then I tell her we're going to an afterparty and start leading her out the door and tell everyone else to follow us.
The dudes are like "whoa".
It was cool but these girls had all already made up their minds that they're no longer interested in these guys and that they are going home, adios!
Fucked.
I make a last ditch attempt to get my girl to take me home with her but she's pretty cold and closed off and she keeps interjecting she won't leave with me or take me with her. I keep persisting but to no avail.
I would have definitely had a fighting chance to turn things around if the guys would've led properly and kept their girls interested and closed them to someones hotel/apartment.
Still pissed as I write this a week later.
Last thoughts
If I could do that whole interaction over again given the variables thrown in with the RSD randos and going to the pizza shop I would've pushed hard to fuck her in the bathroom and I'm pretty confident I could've achieved this.
When we were talking in the shop her biggest concern was leaving her friends, she didn't want to leave her friends.
That's cool I can respect that.
Well we spent 30 minutes total in the pizza shop.
The friends were occupied happily by the RSD chodes the whole time. It would've been super easy to tell my girl we're going to do something crazy and get her to buy into the idea of "doing something crazy" or straight up telling her I'm going to fuck her in the bathroom.
Tell her to go to the bathroom and wait for 1 minute. Then at a moment when the friends are occupied I just peel off and enter the bathroom with her. If I could've gotten both of us in the bathrooom it would've been a definite thing and an epic story.
So what I learned from this is for logistical situations I need to be sure that I'm taking every option into account given the situation and playing them accordingly.
Great lesson learned.
I hope you enjoyed reading and as always,
Keep it pimping gents
-Rob
I went to Miami for the RSD Winter Summit. It was an extremely awesome experience to be surrounded by the top dudes in the field of seduction as well as having the opportunity to network with some extremely ambitious and talented seducers in the audience. If you get the chance to go I highly recommend going to an RSD program (Free tour, Hot Seat, Or Winter/World Summit) as you will learn a lot, get to see some of the best infield pickup footage in the world, and get the opportunity to meet some really on point people (and avoid the not so on point people haha).
I will say that RSD is a bit "cultish". On Saturday of Summit they did the Hotseat Transformational experience with live exercises where they break the entire 200 people in the room into groups. Then each member in each group takes turns dancing, jumping, and expressing themselves in whatever way they possibly want with the goal to feel what it's like to be truly free from the binds of social pressure. Well this is cool and all but then you turn around and the next thing you know you see 3 RSD dudes sandwiched between one another dry humping on the floor...
Yeah that's a random sample of the RSD crowd for you... 25% really solid on top of it dudes, 25% theory junkies that have watched every RSD video that average 20 approaches per year, 25% that go out regularly yet aimlessly and never improve, and another 25% that attend with the gun barrel in their mouth with hopes that the RSD seminar will change their mind on pulling the trigger to end their existence.
Nonetheless a great experience.
So each day I go to seminar and hear top notch seducers speak about their top insights in seduction as well as see their best video infield. You leave each night super inspired to hit it hard and shake shit up.
Here is each of the three report in chronological order of each night. The first report is pretty funny and details my role play with an more "senior woman" (29 yrs.) portraying her as my mother. The second report details my finding a cute yet petite Asian girl about my age and how I pulled her, her friend, and a random wing from the club back to my place (details strong leading and dealing with logistics on the fly). The last report is the third night in which I did not get laid but get very close on a night where I had almost zero energy and a formerly rough start.
Each report is from the same bar/club in Miami South Beach called "Mangoes". This is a great spot to go if you're on a budget in South Beach ($5 cover vs. typical $30-80 cover on the average Miami clubs). Also note that this place is about a 5 minute walk to where I was staying and thus had great logistics.
I've made effort to outline each report notably so you can skip to whichever report you most desire and browse through.
Enjoy!
LR: Incest with My Mother
I'm taking in the scene at this "Mangoes" bar, propped up comfortably against the bar, my gaze adrift into the club lights.
I'm still pissed off where at this shitty club (this was before I liked the bar better) and I keep thinking to myself that no matter what, any girl I see that I want is mine because I'm by far the highest value guy in the venue.
I had hopes of being in Story or Liv nightclub partying it up with some of the more talented seducers I met at Summit earlier that day but didn't have the budget to afford it. Oh well better to focus on the moment and enjoy myself.
As soon as I tell myself this I look to my right and a thick legged Latina woman with a tight dress on is tapping on my chest to ask me a question.
Her: "Where are you from?"
This girl is with a few friends that aren't nearly as attractive and have been bobbing around the back corner of the bar where we were situated now for a while. They've been talking to a few quite elder gentlemen now in between as well one aged about 45 and the other aged about 55, both unattractive. The 45 year old has been talking to the girl that just opened me the most.
Her: Where are you from?
Me: My mom and dad... (Sly smile)
Her: Shut up! You're terrible! haha
Me: You're probably right. Who the fuck are you?
Her: I'm Tamantha
Me: (I pull her closer into me so I can talk directly into her ear) I'm Robert
We start chatting, I meet her friends, and I find out they're all out for a bachelorette party to celebrate they're friend getting married. I tell them their bachelorette accessories suck and I'm very unimpressed. They laugh and I think my girl slaps my chest for being obnoxious.
She then asks me my age. I tell her to guess.
Her: I'm going to guess you're 28
Me: (In my head I'm thinking whaaaa??? Thanks!) Ah shit! You're going to leave me for the vultures now...
Note I'm purposely disqualifying myself in an effort for her to hopefully reach out on a limb and save me with the implication women do not prefer young men. Also note that I delivered this statement with a noticeable lack of care and indifference for if she did leave me because of my age. She knows I don't care about the outcome of this interaction.
Her: No! I wont leave you, age is just a number!
So here she's qualifying her beliefs and investing in my by telling me she's not going to leave me which is exactly what I was hoping for when I said this line.
A lot of guys when they say this (and I still do) will do it the wrong way and instead get a "no it's okay! you shouldn't be insecure about your age." So shoot for doing the former.
Me: Try and guess again for fun!
Her: 25
Me: I'm 22
Her: Oh my god! I'm like old enough to be your mom :O
Me: Nice to meet you Mom. This is going to be an awesome incestuous relationship
Her: hahaha oh my god
Me: Seriously what do you think our child is going to look like? It's going to be mentally retarded but it'll be worth it girl.
Her: (slaps my chest) No! haha.... (in shock)
Me: Yeah we're going to have to move to Mississippi where this shits legal. Here I know a bus that's leaving there now we can catch it if we leave now. (grab hand to lead her away from her peer group)
So were joking about this silly role play and how I'm going to impregnate my mother. Throughout this time I'm pulling her in close to me, wrapping my arm around her lower back and pulling her into me tightly.
We go and chat to my friend Luis who is chatting it up with another girl I pushed a girl onto him that wasn't going to well for me earlier. I introduce her to Luis and chat with the other friend again and we make a mini party. They're all laughing and hanging out and I kind of watch the three of them chat it up and hang off to the sidelines for a minute.
Mixing Shit Up
Then this blonde German girl I isolated earlier and moved around the club with walks by and I pull her into me in hopes that she'd see my pre-selection and flip around for me but she pats me on the shoulder and keeps walking. I wave at her dismissively with a mocking look of disgust on my face (jokingly acting here).
I turn back to my girl who is briefly got a glimpse of what just happened and is intrigued to make me hers but at the same time on the verge of auto-rejection in fear I'm going to throw her away for another girl.
I pull her back into me and resume conversation where we were and take things a bit more personal and connect with her so that I can rid her notion of auto-rejection and build investment into me.
We're leaning against the bar holding hands and talking and her friends and the old 45 year old dude that was with her group originally that I mentioned starts talking to her. I continue holding her hand as she faces the dude but not with the strength of holding onto her hand in a needy way (hard to describe that lol).
I'm leaning up right next to my wing and his girl so I see this come up and I know that I'm waaaaaaayyyy better than the competition here so I see no threat and I merely give a bored look, turn my face away from the girl and the competition talking, and chat my wing and his girl up while still holding her hand.
She doesn't let go and after about 2 minutes I see the dude kind of give up for the time being and go back to the main group of friends to where my girl reengages me.
We keep talking and I tell her we should go grab a nightcap together since the club is about to close and go spend time outside this shitty club. She agrees and I tell her we're going now she agrees but tells me she needs to tell her friends first.
I say "great idea let's go tell them now" and take her hand and lead her over to her friends.
Destroy the Dude, lead the day
We get to her friends and she's informing them of her decision. You know the typical girl talk jazz.
Well right as soon as she's done telling her girlfriends of her decision the old ass 45 year old dude (who I still have no idea of his relationship to the group) comes back up and starts chatting her up again and is apparently quite excited at himself for having the balls to come into our interaction yet again. However to my astonishment the girl the is entertaining him like he's actually cool.
No this guy is not going to derail this shit.
I take her hand that is closest to me
Me: Hey Tamantha! Fuck this old dick we're leaving. Come!
I say this in a very dominant and commanding way. I am not reacting to this guy but am merely communicating my boundary with her that I'm not going to waste my time here and I don't give a shit about her relationship with this old dude.
She complies readily to my leadership and I quickly lead her away from him and the friends... I look back and the guy has a sincerely sad look on his face as he comes into grips that some 22 year old horny shithead just took away the girl he bought multiple rounds of shots for.
We start walking towards my apartment (air BNB) and we keep up our motherly son incest role play we have going on making plenty of obnoxious and obscene jokes.
We get up in my apartment and before we enters she says
Her: My friend just texted me we're going to have to make this a quickie
Haha got to love older women! Tell it like it is right?
So we get in the apartment, I get her to take her shoes off, and I go pull her into the bedroom. She puts up no last minute resistance and I start railing her out pretty hard. We both get to climax and right after we both cum I say:
Me: I love you mother![]()
Aftermath
It turns out this girl hadn't had sex in over a year and my taking her home that night was the highlight of her year so far. I was happy to be of service
Also I got the back story on the 45 year old guy chasing her around at the bar and it turns out that he was their waiter at the restaurant that they went to earlier when the got dinner and was flirting with her the whole night and persistently talked them into going to Mangoes with them. They relented and he'd been trying to get with her all night but she wasn't too sold on him.
When I was walking her home later that night to her apartment she told me how much she liked it when I cut him off and led her out of the situation.
So the lesson is make sure you do not withhold sex from women because you never know how bad they need your dick and don't be afraid to X-out a dude in your way... it might make her night!
LR: I Hate Mangoes
This is night two of my trip to Miami. This was a Thursday and I promised myself after the previous night that I would never return to Mangoes again. We made a pretty critical decision to go out to a legit South Beach spot.
So at seminar Derek introduced me to a few more of his past alumni and we decided we were going to go to Story nightclub, one of the hottest places in South Beach.... well typically :/
So we chose unwisely.
The DJ of the night was A$AP Rocky. Which I personally do not hate his music but the crowd that was attracted this night was sub-par and ghetto as fuck. I did meet one of the hottest girls on the dance floor and have her on me quite easily (gorgeous gorgeous blonde bombshell) but the friends fucking drug her away after about 10 minutes of us hanging out and leading her around.
After this I hit up probably 15 more girls and having a pretty slow night. The club was really dead that night for Story and the place was infested with RSD dudes so we burned the club down pretty fast.
We get out of the club probably around 2 AM and were thinking of where to go next. Someone suggests Mangoes.
"Surely their must be somewhere else open and close by!"
The group wanted to go and I did admit it had the best logistical situation out of any other option.
Back to Mangoes
So I get in the club again and the first thing I do is watch my buddy approach a pretty hot girl in high heels and a dress. I then look over to my left and see RSDJulien looking pretty crazy and in his head looking off into space about 10 feet away. It was a pretty weird sight to see that I had to double take. I'm so used to seeing him in video's being up on a girl being at the cause of the environment it was weird to see him looking stuck in his head.
As I go around the club I keep seeing different RSD instructors, it's like being in a video game or some shit haha. RSD Sam, RSD Madison. Whatever I still feel entitled to every girl in this lame club just as much as I did the night before.
I see this cute petite Asian girl with her somewhat fat friend. I open the Asian girl and she is quite receptive. I pull her into me and she is quite receptive to that. Out of nowhere the fat friend miraculously leaves. Holy Shit awesome I don't even have to say hi to the fat friend.
Immediately we have a sort of heated banter which I win and then we trade names.
I start deep diving her and find out she's 22 and I really probe her hard on who she is and what she is going to do with her life. The vibe shifts from really fun/playful to really serious in a matter of a few sentences and she starts qualifying herself to me to make her future plans for her life sound really awesome.
I like her answers so I move/lead her over to another side of the bar where I order a water and we continue talking. We flirt and banter a bit more and things are going great. The whole time I can see her eye's dilating and becoming bigger. I know I can pull her soon so I do.
I lead her outside and we sit down at a table for a second for her to smoke a cigarette (eww... but it's already 3AM and every other girl in the club either has an instructor or other RSD rando hitting on her so I figure I best not overly focus on the cigarette).
Here is a bit more deep diving on how she's going to become a child's psychiatrist and save the world and I rant about the epidemic of the modern man in dating to which she enjoys listening to.
Pulling with the group
I then take her by the hand and start walking towards my house to which she puts up resistance to talking about her friend is still inside and they don't have cell phones to reach each other.
I realize this is a reasonable objection so I take her idea as if it were mine and say
We can't go yet, we need to go make sure your friend is okay and get her
She is happy that I'm understanding of her need so I lead her back into the club and the search begins for the fat friend!
I lead her through the club and through each of the rooms to see if we can spot her friend. Along the way we turn one corner and RSD Jeffy is posted up on a pillar in the room watching one of his students nearby... he doesn't look happy to be at Mangoes.
We continue looking for her friend but cannot find her to no avail.
I decide that we will just post up and wait for her to come to us and hangout for a bit in the meantime.
About two minutes later she says "I think I see her!!" and take my hand to lead me over there to which I drop her hand out of disgust for not wanting to be led around the club by my girl.
We get over to her friend and lo and fucking behold she's chatting with one of the RSD dudes that is an alumni with Derek. Haha fuck yeah.
Him and his girl are having a great time together and I tell him the gameplan is to follow my lead as we are going to an afterparty at my place. The club is getting close to leaving so we tell our girls that we know of an epic afterparty and that we're going to go to it together and we lead them out.
On the way out I see RSDMadison and he gives me a fist bump on the way out... gotta love chill black dudes.
So we're talking about afterparty epicness and we get to my apartment block and we have to go down this alley to get to the entrance and they're asking "are you sure this is where the afterparty is?"
Me: "Of course looks can be deceiving you'll both love it once we get inside!"
So we go down the alleyway and open the door to the apartment block.
We go up the stairs and enter the hallway where my apartment is.
There is not a sound of an afterparty. The girls ask "Is this your apartment"
Key in the door, door open, look at girl "Yes", and walk inside.
They all follow.
Now that we're inside I tell everyone to take their shoes off and I tell my girl I'm going to show her the tour of the place. (there's three rooms altogether haha)
I show her my room and pull her inside and start making out with her. She reciprocates and we get busy together
Funny story with roommates
So while we're having sex the fat friend and my newfound wing are on the couch making out. The next thing they know my roommate gets back from the club empty handed and tired, looks at the people on his couch and is wondering who the fuck these people are and if he's in the right apartment. He double takes and then they look up and realize they've been walked in on.
The girl then bolts up and heads to the bathroom in embarrassment or something. My newfound wing says "What the fuck man we were just about to get it on!! Dude I was soo fucking close!"
Roommate: "Dude just go walk in the bathroom with her"
Wing: (face is in deep thought processing the new information until lights blink on) "HEY! You're right!" (Bolts up and enters bathroom)
Roommate: sighs and grabs the handcream off his dresser
FR+: Fucking Sooo Close
So after the last night at Mangoes I told myself come hell or high water I'm not going to end back up at Mangoes tonight!
I was also super motivated to pull off a hat trick and pull as girl this night.
We went to a slew of free cover bars that we were told were good places to go to and were absolutely terrible. Weird unattractive, unreceptive crowds with cagey mean women in them.
Then the group I was with got excited to go midtown Miami out of South Beach to a spot they claimed was really good. I wasn't going to fight them on it so we head off to midtown Miami.
We get there 20 minutes to closing time, unknowingly, and it's about 2:10 right now.
Also my energy just reached an all time low and I was mega tired from low sleep the past two nights and I was just having a terrible time... not to mention that there were 3 fat girls for every skinny girl. Just not a good idea to come down this way.
So we pack up shop here and head back over the bridge to South Beach. One of the guys throws out the idea "Mangoes?"... at this point in the game? Sure.
So the next thing I know I'm back, once again, at fucking Mangoes. Well it's starting to grow on me what can I say.
Banging the Guns
So I start hitting it up in the club and things are going SLOW. I'm excited though because the quality of girls is much higher this night than it was the previous two nights and there are a few stunners walking around which is nice.
I'm getting blown out quite a bit and trying to force it with the girls that aren't blowing me out. I'm trying to get my energy up and stay fucking awake for this shit and all I keep putting through my mind is "get the Hat trick, three girls in a row, no excuses!"
I know I'm just looking for a girl to hook and follow my lead so I get my mind right and continue approaching.
There's like this spectrum of being a fun natural vs. being a pick up dude. I personally resonate more with being a natural and I seek to emulate coming from that paradigm the majority of the time just because I think it yields better results and its more fun. However sometimes I have bad/off nights or if I'm just gangstering it out and screening for one girl where I fall more into the being a pick up dude category and I'm just mass shot gun approaching everyone. A time and place for everything.
So I meet about three girls in a row. First is a stunning hot blonde German that I think I could've got hooked into me if I were more charismatic, wittier, and had higher energy but to no avail. Second girl hooked and we got along decently. I moved the 2nd one around and I thought this was going to be my girl for the night. We chatted, her friends all loved me, but when I moved with this girl one on one I ran out of things to say (she was doing a poor job of carrying the conversation) and we really just didn't click all that well. She was not challenging or that fun so we said our farewells and I went to find a new girl.
Third Times a Charm
Third girl I met right after this one hooked harder than the 2nd girl, we had instant chemistry, and like magic with her I had tons of witty cool shit to say that came out of nowhere. We danced a bit, I led her around the club, and met her friends who once again loved me. I moved this girl away from her friends for a bit and we talked, deep dove, and bantered more. I told her about an awesome afterparty we could go to and she decided that would be great.
We went to go collect her friends and one of them was a more dominant social butterfly personality and wanted to talk to every fucking person she saw haha. Plus there were loads of dudes approaching them.
We little by little lead them out of the club until we're on the street and now there's even more guys approaching all of them.
I go to talk to the two friends with aims of strategically pairing them up with two guys that will be able to lead the day and not fuck shit up. I turn back to my girl and theres two dudes talking to her. God damn now I have to go pry her back away.
My girl has a scarf so I tug her scarf to which she responds to and I slowly pull her around and pull her into me and tell her to put her scarf around me (that way she can't easily leave me with some rando if I momentarily separate from her again).
I see a few guys I know that are good with women and throw them on the friends but to no avail they can't understand each other (these are Argentinians) and so they bail. Then out of no where two obvious RSD dudes come in and apparently speak Spanish and are capable of communicating well with the two friends and appear to not be totally hated by them. This will work for now I think.
Pulling with the Randos
So I get the group walking and away from the god damned hoard of dudes approaching these 3 girls.
I'm more focused on having fun with my girl and I heard one of the RSD randos say something about an afterparty so I assume they're leading us somewhere cool.
The next thing I know we're at a pizza shop. I guess that's cool. Pizza and then jet off to afterparty. Perhaps these guys just need to build some comfort with their girls before they feel comfortable. I try to suggest to my girl to ditch her friends multiple times but she is very loyal and decided on staying with them. At the same time she's all over me, touching me, looking at me extremely sexually, and I'm just hoping these dudes no what they're doing and have a game plan.
The 4 of them go get and start eating pizza and my girl and I are just flirting, deep diving, and dropping sexual innuendos and thoroughly enjoying ourselves to no end.
In the back of my mind I'm playing out the logistical options:
1. pull the group to some afterparty location (their or one of the RSD dudes places as I don't have room to accommodate everyone at my place).
2. isolate my girl (already established she was sticking with her friends, though I could use a hard push)
3. Ditch the dudes and go with the group back to their hotel
4. Mystery logistic---------------------> FUCK HER IN THE PIZZA SHOP BATHROOM
I did not opt for #4 because I did not think of it until the morning after but it was the winning option by far and I'm still kicking myself for not thinking about this at the time.
In my mind I'm still shooting for option #1. The guys are doing decent by the looks of it with their girls so surely they're having a plan of some sort lined up that is favorable... I assumed wrong.
But before I get to this part of the story there's one more part I need to add that rendered my night fucked...
She Tests and I
Fucking fail.
So I've positioned myself as a pretty alpha dude in this girls eyes thus far and she's been very receptive to it as a result.
We're talking and I ask her what she likes me so much. She says a few reasons and I also point out that I'm a strong leader to which she agrees and then counters her agreeing with this:
Said with a challenge look on her faceBut you failed to lead your friends, look you don't even have an idea where they are
I think typically I would've saw right through this would've disregarded this or said something witty but I think I was so tired and unable to think straight I started fucking explaining myself to her and its the wildest thing to see a girl super attracted to you steadily see the attraction literally drain out of her eyes and face to a solemn look of disappointment. Hahaha it fucking sucked.
But I figured fuck just wipe it under the rug surely I can fit one small mistake in there.
I turn to the guys. Its been 30 minutes by now and it is time to make a move so I ask them what the gameplan is.
They start agreeing and look to their girls and I shit you not. They start trying to sell, literally sell features/benefits/trial close and everything the idea of going back to a club or a strip club. I'm shaking my head in disbelief.
I interject. "No! We're going to an afterparty, lead them to an afterparty." They nod their heads and in such a low value way start trying to sell the girls on the idea of an afterparty.
No these girls closed their openmindedness towards these guys as soon as they came up with the idea to back pedal and go to another club, they're done.
I get up and show them how to lead properly... don't aks, tell.
I go over to the main alpha girl and all eyes are on me. I flirt with her for a second, get her to take my hands, get her to stand up, and then I tell her we're going to an afterparty and start leading her out the door and tell everyone else to follow us.
The dudes are like "whoa".
It was cool but these girls had all already made up their minds that they're no longer interested in these guys and that they are going home, adios!
Fucked.
I make a last ditch attempt to get my girl to take me home with her but she's pretty cold and closed off and she keeps interjecting she won't leave with me or take me with her. I keep persisting but to no avail.
I would have definitely had a fighting chance to turn things around if the guys would've led properly and kept their girls interested and closed them to someones hotel/apartment.
Still pissed as I write this a week later.
Last thoughts
If I could do that whole interaction over again given the variables thrown in with the RSD randos and going to the pizza shop I would've pushed hard to fuck her in the bathroom and I'm pretty confident I could've achieved this.
When we were talking in the shop her biggest concern was leaving her friends, she didn't want to leave her friends.
That's cool I can respect that.
Well we spent 30 minutes total in the pizza shop.
The friends were occupied happily by the RSD chodes the whole time. It would've been super easy to tell my girl we're going to do something crazy and get her to buy into the idea of "doing something crazy" or straight up telling her I'm going to fuck her in the bathroom.
Tell her to go to the bathroom and wait for 1 minute. Then at a moment when the friends are occupied I just peel off and enter the bathroom with her. If I could've gotten both of us in the bathrooom it would've been a definite thing and an epic story.
So what I learned from this is for logistical situations I need to be sure that I'm taking every option into account given the situation and playing them accordingly.
Great lesson learned.
I hope you enjoyed reading and as always,
Keep it pimping gents
-Rob