Models - Mark Manson?

[Skills]

Decent book.
Whether you use GLL verbals or '2nd gen' verbals, the result will basically be the same. It depends on whether she is attracted to you or not. You really tend to need very very little 'outer game' if she is attracted. I see guys fucking it up left right and centre and still getting the lay because she likes him.
And if she's not attracted, then you never stood a shot. Even with 8th generation verbals
Best not to overthink it, as Mark Manson says (he used to use all the mysterymethod stuff himself btw, but ended up rejecting it and went more 'free style' dropping all the concepts. Bit like Tyler from RSD)

oh really? what if she is a maybe girl????? what if you want to move things way faster? please answer those questions....

 

[Bismarck]

Sure.

I've read it in 15', so my memory might be hazy, but...

My biggest takeaways:

• The 0 to 1 number system instead of 0 to 10 is one of the biggest factors I got laid with stunners when I was beginning. I didn't see them as such.
• It was the only book in PU existence that has a very extensive rejection section WITH MENTAL FRAMES about it. The difference between a newbie and an expert being 1% and 10%. It was an eye opener. People get rejected and PU is much more of a treasure hunt than a manipulative process.
• Incredible fun frames and letting go of the outcome. His getting slapped story and really vulnerable anecdotes were a blessing in the sea of theory oriented world of PU.
• His chapters on "your story" and "the gift" was great for me to cope with my past and reframe "my story".
• The concept of vulnerability was HUGE. It made me make insane connections to women and made them open up. I didn't even realize what it was doing until I moved away from the MM modal and became more of an attraction guy, I started to get an incredible flake rate.
• The fact that he put such emphasis on you had to shed your ego and your lack of vulnerability and the framing of it was incredible. It was an insanely pure frame of practicing PU along with the treasure hunt frame. It was very integrated to society and functioning within it. Very little "pickup cape" required. It really made me internalize that action itself was value. Expressing myself was value itself. It was just purely fucking incredible mentally. Especially coming from a very protection/fear/inaction/ego oriented space.
• The concept of polarization and everything naturally polarizes (to the negative, in the absence of action) was the single biggest sticking point of mine (inaction and fear of negative reactions) and it singlehandedly made me get my first girl. I just did something.
• The MINIMAL theory was a godsend. It made me get core confidence instead of having a confidence in theory. (This is really funny since I'm trying to learn very structured indirect game now. Haha.) And the limited theory it had was incredible. Push-Pull, Statements instead of questions, word association (Hooks & Threads Theories of old PU). Having a viewpoint in life/being interesting, etc.
• The concept of demographics was insane. I never really thought about that before. After I switched up my demo, I got really good results. Then my results crashed when I returned to my old demo. I would've tried to "fix my game" instead of seeing the problem w/o Mark Manson.
• The concept of having a life. I joined a salsa class, art class, etc. Started going to social gatherings. My first 2 girls were from the Salsa class and a birthday of a friend.
• The book wasn't bitter or red pill at all. It was a very loving and integrated type of book. Outframed many PU concepts. For better and worse.

Again... The book was pretty limited, you can definitely transcend a lot of the ideas there but it was incredible for what it was.

Such a strong endorsement...now you've made me want to read it again. I read it when it first came out and don't remember anything anymore.

 

[Skills]

Such a strong endorsement...now you've made me want to read it again. I read it when it first came out and don't remember anything anymore.

Basically what we have been talking about in the forum, screening game.. ignore the texting advice outdated..vulny stuff after 3 fucks maybe... I would ignore..

 

[Skills]

Meant vulnerability