most girls don't deserve

[lao che]

your time, your attention, and ultimately, your dick

i'm gonna rant a little, and provide a few examples of text convos i've had which i could have turned into something more but didn't because, man, they just don't deserve it


1) okcupid: cute, blonde scottish chick. not my cup of tea but no doubt she has a legion of simps telling her how gorgeous she is

her: wow

me: ?

her:Your profile

her: made me laugh


this bitch is so entitled she thinks she can send me a one word message and then sit back and allow me to seduce her. jesus fucking christ. not only that, but it takes her THREE messages to convey to me that she thinks my profile is funny. and what's more, she can't even do that without some prompting from me. what a waste of time. if she can't string together five words into a sentence then why the fuck am i gonna make any effort for her? imagine, imagine, if you could send "wow" to every girl and then have them dropping their drawers


2) okcupid girl. has a giant cookie, with candy eyes, held up in front of her face. that's it. no other pics.

me: such beautiful eyes

her: (NINE MONTHS LATER) (3 smiley faces)

her: haha

her: thx (smiley face)

again, this girl takes 3 goddamn messages to say thanks for something from NINE MONTHS AGO. and doesn't even make sense. she's thanking me for what, exactly?



3. okcupid. possible hot american. blond. wearing a native-american headdress. holding a big mug in front of her face, which has a pic of a buddha. her screen name is maeABC (look her up, why not?)

me: your profile is like the beginning of a joke -
a buddha, a red indian and an american-born chinese walk into a bar .. (note the creativity in the opener. compare that with 'wow')

her: And and ....

her: Wait u think am ABC?

me: Well, now I think you're an ABCDummy

her: Ok here's what
U explain that dummy comment to me, cause duh am a "dummy"
Second WOW
dat profile ...dude
I took a moment to read it
gotta say was entertained and it's not easy entertaining me

me: Uhmm your screen name is ABC.
Thanks for compliments.. Your profile leaves a lot to the imagination. (i'm giving her a window of opportunity here, to give me something, as her profile is, of course, blank)

her: Nah am just lazy
And my name was too short for"ok stupid " to accept so
I added the ABC (she gives nothing, almost killed the conversation right there, and i almost decided to exit, but .. give her another chance)

me: i'm guessing your name's not mae, then. i will also guess that you are not, in fact an abc. and that there's beer in that mug?
how'm i doing - three out of three, right

her: i am not chinese
My name is mae
The mug will remain a mystery (again she gives very little)

me: that question mark is in the wrong place. it makes that sentence look odd. try to read it as a statement: there's beer in that mug.
i'm a stickler for correct grammar and spelling. yours is terrible, by the way

her: thx (the perfect response, maybe i was wrong about this girl)

me: ha that's the perfect response. made me laugh
ok i'll give you the benefit of the doubt re: the mug's contents. i'd love it to be gin and tonic

her: Bingo

her: Plot twist: it's empty (WTF?)

me: plot twist? this isn't an episode of sex and the city, young lady. it's supposed to be a conversation.
perhaps you are better at it face-to-face (i'm not beating around the bush now, she's had plenty of chances to contribute)

her: Nop
No hope there
as terrible as in here (this is my cue to exit)

next day .....

her: Wasn't it u who said keep the convo goin
What u waitin for??? (i ignore this, i'm done with this dippy bitch)

for several days following this she visits my profile every day. i can almost hear the wheels turning in her head.



4. girl i picked up in supermarket last year. didn't bang. have her on wechat. haven't communicated since around the time we met.

her: hi how are you these days

me:?

her: how are you? or you totally forgot who i am?

me: no i remember. you have the same picture. enjoying the spring time weather? (i'm giving her an in here)

her: (smiley face) (i refuse to communicate with emoji so i'm almost done here already)

her: how are you (jesus, she got nothin, this girl)

me: so you're bored on a sunday afternoon

her: (smiley face)

me: nothing to do but look through your contacts

her: don't be so sensitive

me: so you suddenly decided that you need to know how lao che is doing?

her: it's just we haven't talked for a while

me: exactly

her: so it's not bad to text you, right?

me: you're bored. you scrolled through your contacts looking for someone to entertain you for a few minutes

her: no i didn't scroll through all my contacts.

me: just up to the J K L

her: so you don't want to talk to me?

me: depends whether or not you have a point

her: just want to talk to an old friend (!)

me: we've already established that you're simply bored

her: if you don't want to talk to me it's fine

me: it's fine, either way. but don't pretend you contacted me because you're interested to know how i am

her: what can i do if you don't believe me?

me: you can either be honest. or have a point. something to say

her: i don't know what to say now.

me: exactly



now, for some people, 3 and 4 may seem particularly harsh. and no doubt i could have played them differently. but both of those girls are practically screaming "entertain me entertain me" without giving any reason at all for me to converse with them.

let's look at the alternatives for number 4

a) be nice, fall into her frame. "i'm fine thanks, yeah how you doing bla bla bla?" result, boring conversation which leads to no date or sex but does lead to another "hi how are you" 6 months down the line

b) ignore. this is the strongest option, i think. but sometimes you just wanna give people a piece of your mind, ya know? this girl was so boring the only thing she had was to ask how i was, and when i asked about her she could only give a smiley face. jesus christ.

 

[ray_zorse]

Yeah, I communicated with this 18yo dolt something like "hey, it's Friday, so glad its the weekend... tired?" ... she replies with some musical notes and "nah"... NEXTed, but for some reason she came over to me all smiley and happy and greeting me next time I saw her, so a few weeks later gave her the benefit of the doubt with a "hey, will you be in class tomorrow? lets go grab a ramen after" ... about 5 days later it comes up "read" but no response. Shouldn't have bothered.
Ray

 

[lao che]

hey man thanks for a well thought out response. you're not wrong, i don't disagree at all. i'm glad you found my original post funny, coz i think it's pretty funny too. but, in fact, you're somewhat missing the point.

i know for sure i could have banged at least two out of the four, (namely No.1 and No. 2 and possibly No. 4 but i think it's doubtful due to the history. No3 is a complete unknown). i chose not to, because i quite literally think they don't deserve my dick. i laughed out loud when writing that but that's exactly how i feel. i know it almost must seem like cutting my nose off to spite my face and i know my rant has a tinge of bitterness to it (i read the sticky about keeping negativity away from the boards, after i posted it) but i could just as easily have provided examples of girls who will play along, or who do have something to say

@ray, 18 .... sigh i feel it's almost out of my reach now. if i had a hot 18yo on the line i think i'd be a bit more forgiving ,-) i'd probably be buttering her up real good hahaha but yeah, i'm a dirty old lech

 

[lao che]

I wouldn't want a newbie to read this and think "oh she's not interesting I shouldn't persist or ask for a date because she don't deserve my dick!"
Radeng

that's hilarious. imagine some new kid just being like "yeah bitch you don't deserve my inexperienced dick. next!" haha

@ all new guys. follow radang's advice, don't be a total douche all the time. and go read some of my other posts which have a more positive message.

 

[FeelIWastedMyYouth]

well men have the last laugh anyway since womens mating market value goes down like that of an expensive sports car.

 

[FeelIWastedMyYouth]

well men have the last laugh anyway since womens mating market value goes down like that of an expensive sports car.

Dude this is not about getting revenge. This bitter mindset you have will seriously kill your results and your happiness with women in the long run. Women are people too! Old women young women fat women and skinny women and all the women you feel that you missed out on in your youth are all people and probably many of them very decent and good people! Let go of your bitterness man!! Hopefully, one day, you'll realize that there's a lot more to it than just sexual market place value!

No one has the last laugh, we all die in the end. Just be fuckkng happy and have some fun and for god sakes stop being bitter, because you will die and every moment of bitterness toward anyone is a moment wasted!

Radeng

ya well I can't get over being a late bloomer, the fact that I'm different and can't be like most people, everyone else, late to the party makes me pissed and depressed, thats why it enrages me whenever people say better late than never because I honestly believe certain things in life are more fun and better experiences at a certain age range than later, I know success is earned, not given, but what makes me unmotivated to take action to be successful is that I won't be successful when I want it to happen, is that great things usually do not happen when I want them to happen.

 

[ray_zorse]

Fuckin hell man, we discussed this earlier and you completely dismissed what I was saying (with interrogation on exactly when I lost my virginity etc), but I'll say it again and hope it penetrates -- I was extremely fuckin late to the party, how the fuck old are you anyway? 24? How'd you like to spend from 24 to 30 with no female attention whatsoever, wanking to porn and occasionally declaring your love to some biyatch who friendzoned you like 2yrs before you got up the courage to make a move haha... cos that's what happened to me and you know what? I don't feel any different to other guys as a result. In fact if I could do it again I wouldn't do it any differently, cos you have to hit rock bottom before you can seriously decide to improve, and if I'd been like any other guy with mediocre but acceptable results I'd just be wallowing in mediocrity now and thinking I'm the shit hahaha... instead of which I've gone the route of hard grinding and only now am seeing the light at the end of the tunnel... you know what, I fuckin love my life right now, I've got pussy coming out my asshole and I'm nearly 40 and IDGAF cos I'm gonna give myself a cute young thing half my age for my fuckin birthday present. Stop whingeing and lurking and shape up, others have it a lot worse than you, and for God's sake have Franco change your name as lux7 did.
Ray

 

[lao che]

well this thread took quite an unexpected turn ....

i was thinking yesterday, (don't know why, first time for a long time i thought of this) about when i was 18 and i bumped into a 16yo female friend of mine at a bus stop. she was with a very pretty, hot even, schoolmate of hers. we rode the bus together and made small talk and then went our separate ways. next time i saw my friend she was all excited, telling me how her friend was like "OMG who's that guy, phwoar!" and i was like "really? me? does she wanna go out with me? uhhh ok set it up".
i was clueless at the time, and stayed that way for a long time. mostly due to negative mindsets and having no confidence in myself. almost all my insecurities came from my belief that i was really ugly (go read this threadhttps://boards.girlschase.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9745) and i couldn't imagine that a beautiful girl would want anything to do with me.
i took that girl out a few times, even hung out at her place while her family was not there. didn't bang. imagine! a hot 16yo ready to rock, who thinks i'm the shit, and i didn't know how to do it. i wasn't a virgin, i just didn't know i had to make it happen. i sat on her sofa with my jacket draped across my knee making nervous small talk with very poor body language, then her older sister came home. thinking back, i believe i did try to get her up to her bedroom but she wasn't having it. so it's not all bad. (in fact the more i think the more i realize actually i did have a little bit of natural game, i'm remembering several other girls who were well into me but i didn't bang for various reasons. mostly coz we were in her place with her folks either downstairs watching tv or upstairs in bed. who knows what i could have done with better logistics and a little more persistence) anyway, i've gone on a tangent, back to the 16yo - one time we saw a comedy/singing show (nothing elaborate or expensive, friends of friends) and towards the end of the evening she whispered "take me home" . i'd be all over that now. i know what that means! but what did i do? i took her home. i think after the first time we went out we were making out on her doorstep with her parents inside and and i was just talking goofy shit, she was all lovey telling me she'd follow me anywhere. man, what a fuck up. imagine! if i'd have banged her i would have cruised through my 20s crushing all kinds of strange and have a completely different life ..... and then some dude, who's not even 30 yet, has a screen name, thinkiwastedmyouth and comes on here bitching about being late to the party (hint: everybody feels they wasted their life. what makes you so special).
fuck you man, i'm 40 years old. i wasted at least 30 of them. i don't even have a driving licence. in fact the only part of my life i didn't waste was probably the first 3 years when i learned to walk, talk and read. after that it was all downhill. wasted my childhood inside with books instead of outside playing, wasted my teenage years playing shitty computer games and jerking off instead of learning how to socialize. wasted my teens and early 20s in a cloud of alcohol. wasted my late 20s trying to 'find myself' mostly with drugs (hint: nobody finds themselves, you create yourself) and wasted my 30s, and all of my money, playing poker and in a 6 year relationship when i should have been banging as many different girls as possible. so fuck you. you're not even thirty yet, and you haven't even reached your prime. if you wanna have a pity party you should hook up with that guy ajx032 and dry each other's tears.

now, i'm gonna give you some advice. which you probably won't take because you'd rather complain than take action. but this is for you and ajx, too. (i'm gonna paste it over on one of his threads)

(this is mostly something i've developed from listening to theartofcharmpodcast) your mindset, and then your language, creates your reality. it can be changed.

first you have to stop saying negative things. you have to catch yourself before you say (or write) negative comments. or realize as soon as you say it that it was negative, and unnecessary. after you can stop yourself saying it, then work on stopping thinking it. you do that by searching for something positive to think about the situation instead. after you think of the positive, you say that instead. do that enough (it takes practice) and before long you will be the guy who has a positive outlook instead of the guy who's always being a negative nancy who no-one wants to hang out with. BELIEVE ME I'VE BEEN THAT GUY. i was the guy who could never imagine things going right. would always predict negative outcomes. and when that's your mindset, that's what you get. BELIEVE IT. this is not some new-age woooo bullshit. this is real. and you can change if you let the ego aside. you think it's your identity but that's your ego fucking with you. who the fuck wants to be that guy? that's what i tell myself when i want to make a change in my character. i don't wanna be the guy who always turns up empty handed to a party, so i don't do that. i bring gifts for the host, take booze, help out anyway i can. give value instead of value suck. i don't wanna be the guy who always complains about his problems. whenever there's a problem now i try to talk about the solution first, not the problem. no : "what if this happens" yes: "if this happens we can do xyz"

now, i mentioned theartofcharmpodcast.com (formerly pickuppodcast). which i stumbled upon a few years ago and then became a big fan. the first episode i found was part of a series on value. fascinating stuff and essential listening. i still relisten regularly

here's a link http://theartofcharm.com/toolbox/ (control F and search page for 'value')

 

[lao che]

wink at ray zorse, by the way. we should hang out, man!

 

[lao che]

hahahaha this is getting ridiculous.

radeng how old are you, by the way?


i would give anything to be 27 again. or to be able to go back and slap my 27yo self. or to be this brain in that guy's body. i would be unstoppable. but i don't dwell on that because that's just a fantasy. as radeng said, the past doesn't even exist. so because i can't do that, i take the next best option, slapping 27yo guys on the internets. hopefully they take it with the love it's intended. hopefully they can learn from other's mistakes. which is the whole point, in the end, isn't it?

 

[lao che]

never mind i just saw from your "all in" thread that you're 27 too. i'll read it later, looks interesting. no time now, i got a girl coming over. yes, wastedyouth, that's right. it's tuesday afternoon and i, a 40yo man of humble means and ordinary looks, has a girl of 23 coming directly to his home for the sole reason of having filthy dirty exciting messy hard and absolutely strings-free sex. and she's bringing me a gift. and it's not my birthday.

lol


onwards and upwards gentlemen

 

[FeelIWastedMyYouth]

it's because I feel if I ever do fix my issues with women and I start having the dating life/sex life I always dreamed of, wanted, i'll never be able to heal the mental wounds, mental scars of what I missed out on in my late teens and early 20's, I feel if I ever do get a girlfriend and i'm out with her in public holding hands, and I see all these younger couples than me, guys younger than me with a cute, pretty girlfriend, i'll still be jealous of them and it will be a painful reminder of what I missed out on earlier.

 

[lao che]

it's because I feel if I ever do fix my issues with women and I start having the dating life/sex life I always dreamed of, wanted, i'll never be able to heal the mental wounds, mental scars of what I missed out on in my late teens and early 20's, I feel if I ever do get a girlfriend and i'm out with her in public holding hands, and I see all these younger couples than me, guys younger than me with a cute, pretty girlfriend, i'll still be jealous of them and it will be a painful reminder of what I missed out on earlier.

spoken like somebody who shows no indication of having read and absorbed all of the positive advice and responses to your situations and questions. both you and ajx the same, just keep posting and posting without even bothering to reply to the, well thought out and time consuming responses given by several board members.
just start another thread, and another. saying the same shit. and don't even bother saying thanks for the advice. just ignore it and start another one. and if that doesn't work then hijack somebody else's thread, which isn't even related to you and your problems at all, hijack it and whine some more.

i'm ignoring anything else by you, until you change your screen name to lookingtothefuture, or keeponkeepinon, or onwardsandupwards, and quit your fucking whining and victim mentality and realize that no matter how much advice you're given, nothing will happen until you CHOOSE to make it happen.

 

[lao che]

and just to drive a point home

i had a sexy 23yo (in fact 23 next week) get dressed in her nicest little black dress and shoes, take a taxi across town and walk up 6 flights of stairs to my apartment, where i gave her an amazing, strings-free sexy time for several hours. i fucked her doggy style on my balcony window at 5 pm with the curtains open. i crushed her standing up against the mirror in my living room. i haven't cleaned the smudges and hand prints off it yet. i'm looking at it now. i came all over her face and tits, twice. and took pictures of it, too.
none of that is intended as bragging. i'm telling you that, because, as ray-zorse or radeng said, i wasn't thinking 'boo hoo i wasted my youth because i wasn't getting enough poon' whilst slamming my dick into this girl.

"because who the fuck cares about the past at all when you got pussy coming out your ass ..."

 

[FeelIWastedMyYouth]

and just to drive a point home

i had a sexy 23yo (in fact 23 next week) get dressed in her nicest little black dress and shoes, take a taxi across town and walk up 6 flights of stairs to my apartment, where i gave her an amazing, strings-free sexy time for several hours. i fucked her doggy style on my balcony window at 5 pm with the curtains open. i crushed her standing up against the mirror in my living room. i haven't cleaned the smudges and hand prints off it yet. i'm looking at it now. i came all over her face and tits, twice. and took pictures of it, too.
none of that is intended as bragging. i'm telling you that, because, as ray-zorse or radeng said, i wasn't thinking 'boo hoo i wasted my youth because i wasn't getting enough poon' whilst slamming my dick into this girl.

"because who the fuck cares about the past at all when you got pussy coming out your ass ..."

the part I mentioned about men having the last laugh as womens mating market value declines, the reason why I have that bitterness, is because I like to think of that as revenge, as life, reality, giving women karma for their lack of initiative, their passiveness towards men, always expecting men to make the first move, do the approaching and asking out, initiating/escalating, leading, when it comes to dating, relationships and sex, because that is unfair to the shy, quiet, introverted, socially-awkward guys. Just as life, reality is not fair to the shy, quiet, introverted socially-awkward guys when it comes to the dating game, sex game, life, reality is also not fair to women as their mating market value declines as they get older.

 

[Smith]

the part I mentioned about men having the last laugh as womens mating market value declines, the reason why I have that bitterness, is because I like to think of that as revenge, as life, reality, giving women karma for their lack of initiative, their passiveness towards men, always expecting men to make the first move, do the approaching and asking out, initiating/escalating, leading, when it comes to dating, relationships and sex, because that is unfair to the shy, quiet, introverted, socially-awkward guys. Just as life, reality is not fair to the shy, quiet, introverted socially-awkward guys when it comes to the dating game, sex game, life, reality is also not fair to women as their mating market value declines as they get older.

dude...blah blah blah it's not fair blah blah blah it's not fair... lol If you're a late boomer, then you definitely ain't got no time to waste. You should be fucking motivated like other board members here. You could be extroverted, or you could be introverted. You could be shy or you could be out-going. It doesn't matter. It's the execution where most people fail.

 

[mike]

the part I mentioned about men having the last laugh as womens mating market value declines, the reason why I have that bitterness, is because I like to think of that as revenge, as life, reality, giving women karma for their lack of initiative, their passiveness towards men, always expecting men to make the first move, do the approaching and asking out, initiating/escalating, leading, when it comes to dating, relationships and sex, because that is unfair to the shy, quiet, introverted, socially-awkward guys. Just as life, reality is not fair to the shy, quiet, introverted socially-awkward guys when it comes to the dating game, sex game, life, reality is also not fair to women as their mating market value declines as they get older.

The point here is that you are shifting the blame. You want it easy.

Only cheap, meaningless things come easy.

Put yourself in a woman's position: she may secretly lust for you, desire you, but neither of you will never know because those are the rules of the game. They cannot and will not stick their necks out (for many reasons, evolutionary mostly, but I will not discuss that here, besides it is thoroughly explained in one of the articles on GC) so it is up to you to take that risk. That is, of course, if you are willing to improve and going for the life you want for yourself, in dating or otherwise.

In fact, most men - I do not have a statistics, but I can see it among my friends - are not going to stick their necks out either, and they settle with few 'random' female encounters or social circle.

I recommend you read this article by Chase, and truly and deeply work on your mindset to begin with.

 

[ray_zorse]

FIWMY I just wrote this report which got me to thinking of you. Approaching can also be very fun. I just did a big day of approaching which was integrated into my day's activities, I wasn't really pushing hard for numbers or sex or anything... but with this big hangup on sex you're actually missing out on quite a lot of innocent fun.

Anyway I also want to comment on the dichotomy of women being passive (and expected to be so) whereas men have to be active (otherwise not get laid). I spent about 37 years of my life decrying this and basically wishing I was a woman. They have so much choice, I reasoned, whereas we men have no choice... when it's really the other way around. We men get to choose who we seduce, whereas women have no choice but to make themselves as marketable as possible with makeup etc, and then hope for the best. In my current mindset, I'm absolutely loving being a man and having complete control over the process. All the women I know, hate having no control.

Ray

 

[FeelIWastedMyYouth]

the part I mentioned about men having the last laugh as womens mating market value declines, the reason why I have that bitterness, is because I like to think of that as revenge, as life, reality, giving women karma for their lack of initiative, their passiveness towards men, always expecting men to make the first move, do the approaching and asking out, initiating/escalating, leading, when it comes to dating, relationships and sex, because that is unfair to the shy, quiet, introverted, socially-awkward guys. Just as life, reality is not fair to the shy, quiet, introverted socially-awkward guys when it comes to the dating game, sex game, life, reality is also not fair to women as their mating market value declines as they get older.

The point here is that you are shifting the blame. You want it easy.

Only cheap, meaningless things come easy.

Put yourself in a woman's position: she may secretly lust for you, desire you, but neither of you will never know because those are the rules of the game. They cannot and will not stick their necks out (for many reasons, evolutionary mostly, but I will not discuss that here, besides it is thoroughly explained in one of the articles on GC) so it is up to you to take that risk. That is, of course, if you are willing to improve and going for the life you want for yourself, in dating or otherwise.

In fact, most men - I do not have a statistics, but I can see it among my friends - are not going to stick their necks out either, and they settle with few 'random' female encounters or social circle.

I recommend you read this article by Chase, and truly and deeply work on your mindset to begin with.

"women DO have the power to some degree as they ultimately decide whether or not we get to fuck.", not only that, but usually if things don't go past the first or second date, things don't transition into a relationship, it's usually because the girl, not the guy, was the one that ended up losing interest, attraction

I will admit, sometimes I feel so bitter and resentful, angry, jealous, that I feel like beating up a girls boyfriend out of jealousy and anger, jealous, envious of him because he has the girl I want.

I don't see why fighting can prove a guy is a man, he has balls, because fighting is an act of aggression, and that involves testosterone, and testosterone is the dominant male hormone. Plus, since I have a penis, penis means aggression, penetrating, punching is a form of aggression, so that's another logical reason as to why fighting is a masculine thing. Plus many male animals fight during the mating season over the girl they want, and the winner gets the girl, I don't see why us humans can't be that way, unfortuneately we have to rely on our social-skills, conversation-skills, the way we talk, body-language, life-style, career and finances in order to be attractive.

"We men get to choose who we seduce, whereas women have no choice but to make themselves as marketable as possible with makeup etc, and then hope for the best. In my current mindset, I'm absolutely loving being a man and having complete control over the process. All the women I know, hate having no control."

It pisses me off whenever people say that, because women ULTIMATELY HAVE THE GOD DAMN FINAL FUCKIN' SAY!!!!!, they are always in the position of just having to say yes or no things, you can't force a woman to follow your lead against her will. That's why it often pisses me off because NO MAN HAS THE DIVINE RIGHT TO HAVE A WOMAN IN HIS LIFE!!!, I HATE HOW WOMEN DO NOT OWE ME ANYTHING, HOW I AM NOT ENTITLED TO ANYTHING FROM WOMEN!!.

 

[Franco]

FeelIWastedMyYouth,

You're on thin ice here, man.

You've been given plenty of good advice by the guys here, and you have a type of victim mentality that isn't anything new to any of us. Your victim mentality isn't changing because you aren't attempting to change. The things you fear about your future stem from the fact that you aren't making any progress in the present. Your future visions begin to change as soon as you begin to make the smaller changes right NOW.

If I see one more post or thread hijacking by you that leads to you complaining or whining about life (or women) being unfair, you're gone. I expect your next post on the boards to be a Field Report.

- Franco