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As I’ve mentioned before, I’ve traditionally been an online guy. As of the last few months i’ve become increasingly disillusioned with online in general and the gaps in the front end of my game have proven a weakness too great to ignore. 4 days ago, after another mediocre online date and lay, I found myself lamenting over the phone to @DoWhatWorks and vowed to renounce the apps in favour of cold approach daygame.

Yesterday, I had some errands to run in the western end of the city, and figured i’d kill two birds with one stone by getting 4 approaches in aswell. I brought my drawing gear with me, as my intent was to draw statues at the museum whilst finding open targets there. This proved very fruitful..

I made my first approach before setting off. A cute girl stopped with me at a light as i was walking my bike. She gave the tell tale signs of somebody checking me out - head on a swivel looking to and fro and past me, as though looking hard for something. Light still red but no traffic, I decide to cross. She takes the opportunity to cross with me. She gets up in front of me and I shoot from the hip. The approach is terrible but the intent is to warm myself up..

“That’s a lovely dress you’re wearing or should i say skirt..”

She thanks me over her shoulder awkwardly.

“Did you make it yourself?”

“Nah” she says awkwardly and hurriedly again.
She stops a few paces ahead checks her phone and turns in the other direction as though she had misread the directions on google maps.

I analyzed this approach briefly.
Approaching (more calling out to her) from behind, she hadn’t a chance to check me out properly. Risk averse as women are this approach put a lot of pressure on her and bailing was the obvious path of least resistance for her, hence the “rejection”.

Cool. I make the hour cycle journey, complete my errands and head to the art museum.

I post up on a bench by the classical sculptures and begin drawing. Almost immediately I find girls passing and hovering. One striking girl in particular, dressed in white, circles back and looks at a sculpture about 10 feet from me. I scout my mind for something incidental to say to her.

I notice her white clothes and how brave one would need to be to wear all white on a day out, given white clothing’s susceptibility to dirt and grime.

I shoot from the hip again, voice raised..

“You’re very brave…” I start.

She looks up at me, smiles a wide smile, bashful and surprised. She makes a quick exit without giving me a chance to finish..

I analyze this approach. Again putting her on the spot, voice raised in a relatively quiet museum without qualifying my reason for speaking to her or giving her an easy hook to respond to. She bailed again following the path of least resistance.

I chuckle to myself and continue my drawing.

About 30 minutes pass, within which several girls show curiosity. One even boldly snaps a picture of me as I draw.

At some point I notice a cute tan skinned girl in a full white outfit pass me several times. My radar goes off that she likes me as i catch her checking me out. She disappears out of view and i know i must make an approach.

I round the corner and find her staring intently at a sculpture. I approach from the side, get her attention and compliment her sense of style. She thanks me, and then I transition into the opener i’d created unsuccessfully for the first girl in white.

“you’re very brave to be wearing all white like this..i’d have had dirt and grime all over me by now. kudos”

She self deprecated and tells me not to look too close.

We start walking and talking between looking at art. I ask about her and where she’s from.

American cuban mix from the midwest. 21 and here alone on her first holiday out of the states. This presents lots to deep dive her on and we continue our talk for near an hour or so. Perusing the gallery.

Juicier topics touch on freedom, creepy men, desire for sexual freedom based on choice and desire as opposed to a reactionary feminist ideology. Incidental touch and the eye contact is electric between us..

These are fractionated with me teasing, talks on family, shared interests, desires for the future and passions. Eventually I suggest we bail and get food or a drink.

On our way to the strip with food and drink shops, she suggests I show her my art at my place. She couldn’t have given me a bigger escalation window…

The problem though, was that we were an hour away from my place by train, i had cycled down, and my place was a mess.

I tell her this is a good idea and that if she’s free in the evening we can make it work. My plan was to grab a drink with her, bail at a high point with the intent to ping her and invite her over once i’d got home and cleaned.

I wrap up the instadate, tell her i’ll message her once i’ve settled in and freshened up, and she can come over. To this she replies with a warm “maybe..”.

I tell her “cool, do what you feel ;)” and head home.

I call DWW on the ride home to debrief and discuss the right approach to getting her out again. He has far more daygame experience than I so his advice is trusted.
He suggests I don’t call her and video ping her instead to recall warm feelings and increase likelihood of her coming out again.

I do exactly this once i get home. She responds immediately to the video ping and we make plans for her to come over.

Over she comes, and off come her clothes. Her body is stunning.
Hours of shenanigans ensue. She spends the night. And this marks my first official lay from daygame.

To many more…
 
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Hey congrats man!
 

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This is dope Top. Not sure if you’ve read smma, but it helps having their attention before you deliver your opener. Even something small like a “hey”, or an “excuse me” that gets them out of auto pilot so that they can process what you’re saying.

Helps your opener land more easily so that they can bite on the intrigue you were trying to build for the immersion.

I’m hosting a tourney starting august 1st if you planned on continuing to work your day game. Would love to have you.

Congrats on the lay!
 

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Congrats on your first daygame lay! Funny how the first daygame lay in many cases are a very high quality girl.

desire for sexual freedom based on choice and desire as opposed to a reactionary feminist ideology.
I would love if you could share your ideas on this, what do you mean exactly? Sounds like a very cool topic.
 
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@topcat easyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy let's fucking go bro. Guarantee this is a 1st of many...

desire for sexual freedom based on choice and desire as opposed to a reactionary feminist ideology.

I would love if you could share your ideas on this, what do you mean exactly? Sounds like a very cool topic.

I'll let TC chime in but I think this refers to how many people just follow the status quo (which happens to be feminism right now) but how there's a real difference between genuine desire and just going with the sexual trend because it's "mainstream"

It's genius as nobody wants to be seen as a blind follower so she'll backward rationalize that her attraction for you is her own desire and not modern ideology or her just going with the flow.

Work of art man.

Carry on like this and I may finally admit you're a life model ;)
 

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First off big congrats on a seamless same day seduction. Just flowed right along. This was no accident. You nailed it each step of the way.

Second. First day game lay? I would have given you waaaay more shit when you said I don't really know what I am doing after I botched an instant date pull with an Insta model. You scoundrel :p

Love that "courageous for wearing all white" opener. All about that sketch book lifestyle. Here's to many more!
 

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This is dope Top. Not sure if you’ve read smma, but it helps having their attention before you deliver your opener. Even something small like a “hey”, or an “excuse me” that gets them out of auto pilot so that they can process what you’re saying.

Helps your opener land more easily so that they can bite on the intrigue you were trying to build for the immersion.

I’m hosting a tourney starting august 1st if you planned on continuing to work your day game. Would love to have you.

Congrats on the lay!
Hey mate, thanks. And noted on Gunwitch’s pre-opening tech. I’ve got SMMA but will need to brush up on it’s main tenets.

I’ll join your tourney. Sounds like it’ll be a good challenge!
 
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@topcat easyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy let's fucking go bro. Guarantee this is a 1st of many...





I'll let TC chime in but I think this refers to how many people just follow the status quo (which happens to be feminism right now) but how there's a real difference between genuine desire and just going with the sexual trend because it's "mainstream"

It's genius as nobody wants to be seen as a blind follower so she'll backward rationalize that her attraction for you is her own desire and not modern ideology or her just going with the flow.

Work of art man.

Carry on like this and I may finally admit you're a life model ;)
Let’s go bro!

And yeah you nailed it in your read of the gambit. She framed herself that way funnily enough. I just enquired on her beliefs in respect to casual sex and feminism and she brought up the point about choice and desire, and mainstream reactionary feminist liberation being harmful to women..

Clever chick.

Lool you’ll be calling me a life model soon enough mate..
 

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@DoWhatWorks And what would the mainstream be? Sorry if I sound retarded but I would like this spelled out.
Cool, i’ll try fill you in on what’s meant.
Mainstream is “men can fuck who ever they want, women can too with the same consequences..”

What the gambit reveals is that this mainstream mindset is devoid of such nuances like desire and connection, which are usually necessary for a woman to fully enjoy sex. Casual sex without these things can often result in a jaded and regretful woman.
 

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First off big congrats on a seamless same day seduction. Just flowed right along. This was no accident. You nailed it each step of the way.

Second. First day game lay? I would have given you waaaay more shit when you said I don't really know what I am doing after I botched an instant date pull with an Insta model. You scoundrel :p

Love that "courageous for wearing all white" opener. All about that sketch book lifestyle. Here's to many more!
I’m a presumptive bastard straydog :p forgive me.

Lol nah thanks for the kind words. Sketchbooks are apparently chick crack, who knew..
 

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I’m a presumptive bastard straydog :p forgive me.

Lol nah thanks for the kind words. Sketchbooks are apparently chick crack, who knew..
Sketchbook=chick crack. Don't leave home without the former and you won't go home without the later!

Appreciate your perspectives man. Have definetely helped me level up.

She framed herself that way funnily enough. I just enquired on her beliefs in respect to casual sex and feminism and she brought up the point about choice and desire, and mainstream reactionary feminist liberation being harmful to women..
Keys to the kingdom. I love how much golden materiel comes from a solid day in field.
 

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Way to go, @topcat. First of many for sure!

Sound analysis on the first two approaches. You will get that a lot in day game... girls giving you AIs, but if you open a little late or from the wrong angle or not quite right, they get spooked and hurry off. The whole thing is scary for the girl too... from "oh, he's cute... hmm, hmm [hint]" to "oh wow, he actually talked to me... what do I do... well he's behind me... it was sort of awkward... I don't know what to say... I just need to get out of here, it's too awkward! I'm embarrassed!"

A lot of it is resolved by coming in at the right angle and using an opener that paces her enough while giving her enough time to settle into you being there before she is forced to make a decision on how to react.

I quite like the approach of taking the sketch book out to attract interested girls for easy opening (and to not be having to walk around constantly on the prowl). One of my favorite movie seductions, Val Kilmer's of Elisabeth Shue in The Saint, depicts this:


Single girl, alone on holiday, first time out of her country, at the art gallery, checking you out... that's the universe kicking you a day game layup. And you nailed the basket!

Parting ways with her to meet up later was a risky move. It worked out this time, but you'll cost yourself girls doing that. The first one it happens with will sting and you'll find yourself going, "Gosh darn it, I should not have let her go." Better move would've been make sure your bike is locked up good & tight, hop on the train with her, keep her entertained by sketching passengers throughout the train ride + chatting with her, then when you get to your place plop her down somewhere and tell her to flip through your sketchbook while you straighten up real quick. Take the train back into town the next day to pick up your bike.

That said, it's certainly easier telling her just to meet you there later... so if you don't mind the risk of losing the lay, and just want to not waste excess time, you can do it how you did it. Definitely sucks when you get the ghost/cancellation though, and you know you could've gotten it had you just stuck with her.

Good advice from @DoWhatWorks on the video ping to up the odds she showed up for your place later.

All in all, an auspicious start to your day game career :)

Chase
 

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Way to go, @topcat. First of many for sure!
Thanks Chase!

A lot of it is resolved by coming in at the right angle and using an opener that paces her enough while giving her enough time to settle into you being there before she is forced to make a decision on how to react.
i’ll remember this. I had a feel for this instinctually, but this makes it concrete in my mind.

I quite like the approach of taking the sketch book out to attract interested girls for easy opening (and to not be having to walk around constantly on the prowl). One of my favorite movie seductions, Val Kilmer's of Elisabeth Shue in The Saint, depicts this:
i remember seeing this in the blog some years ago! definitely an inspiration for this outing and one i’ll be repeating methinks.

Single girl, alone on holiday, first time out of her country, at the art gallery, checking you out... that's the universe kicking you a day game layup. And you nailed the basket!
Right?! if ever i needed a sign to give up on the apps once and for all, this was it..

Parting ways with her to meet up later was a risky move. It worked out this time, but you'll cost yourself girls doing that. The first one it happens with will sting and you'll find yourself going, "Gosh darn it, I should not have let her go." Better move would've been make sure your bike is locked up good & tight, hop on the train with her, keep her entertained by sketching passengers throughout the train ride + chatting with her, then when you get to your place plop her down somewhere and tell her to flip through your sketchbook while you straighten up real quick. Take the train back into town the next day to pick up your bike.
I thought i’d lost her tbh, had my apartment not been in the messy state it was in, i’d’ve done this, but there was no way i was bringing her home with it in such a state. I got lucky in this case but will aim
not to repeat this in future.

Good advice from @DoWhatWorks on the video ping to up the odds she showed up for your place later.
Yup! his advice secured the final 20% i’d say, without that video ping, i likely wouldn’t have pulled it off.

All in all, an auspicious start to your day game career :)
Thanks for the kind words Chase! Couldn’t have done it without your books, articles or this forum.

Cheers :)
 

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.I quite like the approach of taking the sketch book out to attract interested girls for easy opening (and to not be having to walk around constantly on the prowl). One of my favorite movie seductions, Val Kilmer's of Elisabeth Shue in The Saint, depicts this:

I literally do not leave the house without a sketchbook that fits perfectly in my back pocket, and a drawing pen in my front pocket. Everywhere I go. Not only am I constantly upping my drawing chops, but It is serves as a perfect anchor when I am out being a lone wolf. There are settings where it makes sense you'd be sketching (a park, a museum, a café) but it can actually work really well in more social settings as well (bars, parties, clubs). The key is to make it look casual, amd uncontrieved. Perfect thing to do when there is downtime in the action. You don't want to stand out in a way that screams "look at me" or be tucked away like weirdo staring at people (although, you'd be surprised this is occasional totally appropriate when done well. bold move though and hard to pull off), and you don't want to just be drawing the whole time. Eventual you can find a way to just naturally work grabbing a quick sketch or ten into your routine. I can't tell you how many times smoking hot women have approached me with curious inquiry. Instant conversation started. Plus once she sees my drawing chops... Also, you can sometimes play fun casual drawing games, or find other novel ways to build a connection using pen and paper. One time, at a dive bar, I played a game with two hotties where we tested how psychic we were. We wrote a color on a piece of paper, then "sent it psychicly" to each other. We clasped eachothers hands and stared into eachothers eyes to ensure "the psychic connection" was strong. It was an even stronger connection with one of the babes when she blew me in the back seat of my car. This game was a perfect intro to strong Kino, and the pen and paper made it easy and convient to play. There are tons of other benefits to having a pen and paper handy. Highly reccomended
 

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I literally do not leave the house without a sketchbook that fits perfectly in my back pocket, and a drawing pen in my front pocket. Everywhere I go. Not only am I constantly upping my drawing chops, but It is serves as a perfect anchor when I am out being a lone wolf. There are settings where it makes sense you'd be sketching (a park, a museum, a café) but it can actually work really well in more social settings as well (bars, parties, clubs). The key is to make it look casual, amd uncontrieved. Perfect thing to do when there is downtime in the action. You don't want to stand out in a way that screams "look at me" or be tucked away like weirdo staring at people (although, you'd be surprised this is occasional totally appropriate when done well. bold move though and hard to pull off), and you don't want to just be drawing the whole time. Eventual you can find a way to just naturally work grabbing a quick sketch or ten into your routine. I can't tell you how many times smoking hot women have approached me with curious inquiry. Instant conversation started. Plus once she sees my drawing chops... Also, you can sometimes play fun casual drawing games, or find other novel ways to build a connection using pen and paper. One time, at a dive bar, I played a game with two hotties where we tested how psychic we were. We wrote a color on a piece of paper, then "sent it psychicly" to each other. We clasped eachothers hands and stared into eachothers eyes to ensure "the psychic connection" was strong. It was an even stronger connection with one of the babes when she blew me in the back seat of my car. This game was a perfect intro to strong Kino, and the pen and paper made it easy and convient to play. There are tons of other benefits to having a pen and paper handy. Highly reccomended
i take everything i said about you back bruv. this is gold !
 

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I literally do not leave the house without a sketchbook that fits perfectly in my back pocket, and a drawing pen in my front pocket. Everywhere I go. Not only am I constantly upping my drawing chops, but It is serves as a perfect anchor when I am out being a lone wolf. There are settings where it makes sense you'd be sketching (a park, a museum, a café) but it can actually work really well in more social settings as well (bars, parties, clubs). The key is to make it look casual, amd uncontrieved. Perfect thing to do when there is downtime in the action. You don't want to stand out in a way that screams "look at me" or be tucked away like weirdo staring at people (although, you'd be surprised this is occasional totally appropriate when done well. bold move though and hard to pull off), and you don't want to just be drawing the whole time. Eventual you can find a way to just naturally work grabbing a quick sketch or ten into your routine. I can't tell you how many times smoking hot women have approached me with curious inquiry. Instant conversation started. Plus once she sees my drawing chops... Also, you can sometimes play fun casual drawing games, or find other novel ways to build a connection using pen and paper. One time, at a dive bar, I played a game with two hotties where we tested how psychic we were. We wrote a color on a piece of paper, then "sent it psychicly" to each other. We clasped eachothers hands and stared into eachothers eyes to ensure "the psychic connection" was strong. It was an even stronger connection with one of the babes when she blew me in the back seat of my car. This game was a perfect intro to strong Kino, and the pen and paper made it easy and convient to play. There are tons of other benefits to having a pen and paper handy. Highly reccomended

Also reminds me of some Mentalism tricks you could probably work into a game like this for some authority/connection stuff that you could play around with
 

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Also reminds me of some Mentalism tricks you could probably work into a game like this for some authority/connection stuff that you could play around with
An opportunity there, for sure. I am not really versed in mentalism though so I just framed it in a more fun "We're just goofing" kind of way with a bit of "but what if we really are psychic". When I guessed the colors correctly I definitely milked it for all it was worth "we're starting to really tap into something deep here. Who knows what's possible now that we are all synced up like this"

For me what works with these kinds of games is making sure they don't come across as try hard, or too performative. More of a way to build a bit more connection and just be playful with each other for a moment. Although looking back on it I can see that I did take on a slight air of authority, facilitating the whole thing. Like, I introduced the notion we had to lace our fingers and stare into each other's eyes because it was the best way to "make contact" I also had the two women do the same thing when they were guessing each other's colors. So there was definitely an air of authority on the matter, even though the whole thing is tongue in cheek.

Some other sketchbook games that have helped me build connection
*Teach her/have her teach me origami
*She draws a scribble I turn it into a drawing. I draw a scribble she turns it into a drawing
*In a group setting have everybody draw an "exquisite corpse" (look it up, I don't feel like explaining here)
*We draw each other portraits (a great excuse to gaze into each other's eyes for an extended period
*If she asks you to draw her portrait, oblige. Appear very intent and focused, milk the anticipation just enough. "Finish" and say "okay are you ready, I think its real spot on" milk the moment and reveal a smiley face :).
*Show her a few tips on drawing techniques
*Tease her when she is saying something catchy or wise and tell her "I need to write this down, mind if I quote you on this?"
*Write down notes about recommendations she gives me
*Write down notes/recommendations, tear them off, and give them to her
*In a loud venue where it isn't easy to hear, use your sketchbook to communicate. Write down something, show it to her, then hand her the pen and have her respond.
*Drop a note on her table or in front of her at the bar while you are just passing by Then soon after swoop back in for a confident open. One time I spotted these two babes at a cocktail lounge at a table en route to the restrooms. On the way to take a leak, I confidently dropped a note in front of one of them in a creative colorful dress. The note said "stunning dress." I gave a wave as I passed by. I took my time in the restroom to build intrigue, then returned to their table with gusto. They were very receptive to my approach. It was the perfect way to warm them up to the approach without just barging in on their convo.
*Have her write her number down

I am sure there are many other creative ways to use a sketchbook to build connections. The mere presence of one can set things in motion or build intrigue. One time I had a bouncer trying to get more people in a club stop me and some random ladies as we were all walking by. He was like "hey ladies, would you date a guy with a sketchbook in his back pocket?" They sized me up and were like "yeah definitely...so what's up with the sketchbook?"

All of these are great ways to break the ice or further bonds. You can use them to lead interactions, introduce Kino, use humor, create tension, intrigue, so on. The key of course is how and when you introduce these. You don't want it to be forced or try hard. It has to feel casual and natural. With a lot of these I would recommend you build proper investment on her part before trying to have her commit to some sort of drawing game. Otherwise it can backfire and now she feels like you are dragging her into this thing. Also if it does land, don't drag it out too long. End on a high note and use it to move the interaction to the next phase.
 
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@StrayDog and anyone else that'd like to get into mentalism

There's a guy I know on YouTube who has a cheap learning course for a few tricks. I haven't gotten it yet for full transparency but his YT channel makes me think he's legit (and if I remember right it's only 30 bucks)

Spidey Hypnosis is the guys name on YT. His other channel is The Behavioral Arts (which I HIGHLY recommend)

I, personally want to get it just for some party tricks when I'm in a group and start to feel uncomfortable lol. That way I can have something to fall back on to feel a bit more confident in said group


Just reminded myself of Kokology as well. Those are some fun things to do (think The Cube or even Strawberry Fields). They're what's known as Kokology

Obviously not everything in those books is a winner, but they can still be fun. But now I'm wondering what happened to those books, they were super fun to do with girlfriends...
 
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