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HeartOfChaos

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Got some new super baggy jeans yesterday. Heading to centrally London for late evening approach session, wearing one of my cool trucker / baseball caps, and with a beer in hand. lol.

For last few years, I often took breaks and drank beer / wine / shots of vodka , stopped for long cigarette breaks etc during my Daygame sessions to relive the feeling of grind and repetitiveness. lol.
 

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Got some new super baggy jeans yesterday. Heading to centrally London for late evening approach session, wearing one of my cool trucker / baseball caps, and with a beer in hand. lol.

For last few years, I often took breaks and drank beer / wine / shots of vodka , stopped for long cigarette breaks etc during my Daygame sessions to relive the feeling of grind and repetitiveness. lol.

Good luck! I'm going to have to start doing cold approach, online isn't working for me right now.
 

HeartOfChaos

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Well you do in some cases propose the date, but you also wrote "I always go for the number". I am simply saying always go for the date proposal (soft close, not nailing down a time then and there).

The frustration you leech out here may be coming through in your approaching vibe, which translates to neediness and approaching her from a position of taking value rather than giving it.

@Ratata just posted a thread where he mentioned "tenting". Like you might be just need a few tweaks to stay away from body language that is overbearing. And I don't understand why you say you can't turn it back on her. The verbal content can be focused on her, like teasing and cold reading about her and her current situation. Otherwise what is your verbal content even about?

I probably misunderstood what you meant by "turn it back to her". If you mean a normal conversation between 2 humans, with a bit of flirting and cold reading thrown in here and there as situation and vibe allows, well, naturally it's there.

I meant I go for number after a potential date proposal, yes, it all depends on the situation... I've been doing this since 2009, none of this is new to me tbh, I tried all sorts of approaches, direct, indirect, situational, I approached women on the streets, beaches and parks...

"The frustration you leech out here may be coming through in your approaching vibe, which translates to neediness and approaching her from a position of taking value rather than giving it" - nah, I doubt that, given that vast majority of women I have talked to over the years generally tended to be positive about being approached or neutral at least..
 

HeartOfChaos

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Ok so back to process troubleshooting, can you lay out your verbal and non-verbal process in short form bullet points or similar?

Will try to write this a bit later, need to formulate my thoughts and think how to summarise it succinctly...
 

KJ Francis

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taking value rather than giving it" - nah, I doubt that, given that vast majority of women I have talked to over the years generally tended to be positive about being approached or neutral at least..
but the compliance wasn't there to move the interactions forward to an instant date? could be an issue with the texting too. if you use android there's an app qksms or quiksms that lets you copy paste messages

there's a GC article about reactions vs. results. a lot of people are going to keep an interaction social and positive, whether for safety with a stranger or just general humanity.

how often are you drinking alcohol during day game?
 

HeartOfChaos

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but the compliance wasn't there to move the interactions forward to an instant date? could be an issue with the texting too. if you use android there's an app qksms or quiksms that lets you copy paste messages

there's a GC article about reactions vs. results. a lot of people are going to keep an interaction social and positive, whether for safety with a stranger or just general humanity.

how often are you drinking alcohol during day game?
"but the compliance wasn't there to move the interactions forward to an instant date?" - Exactly.

I had so, so many women say something like "I am flattered", or "more people should do this", or smile at me, acknowledge my approach, blah blah blah, followed by inevitable "I have a boyfriend", or any other excuse.

I mean fuck, I even had some women say stuff like "You are a really handsome guy by the way...But no, don't take this as an invitation...I don't date strangers from the street".

Also, most of the time instant date isn't really possible - remember I did, and do, most of my approaches on busy London streets where most women are rushing around on the way somewhere. There is no time for instant dates most of the time, regardless if compliance is there or not.

Alcohol, are you questioning because you think this affects me? Lol, this is not an issue.

I think the more pressing problem is that the current demographics in London aren't really suitable for me a lot of the time. I am pretty particular about the background of women I am interested in (for long term, at least), and it's like half the women on the streets, bars, transport I see, they are not the right ethnic origin / nationality / culture for me. Ironically, women from these background are actually more open to me, but I am not interested in them. I am pretty much exclusively interested in white women from southern or eastern Europe (and not all countries, just certain specific ones in that region), USA , Canada, Israel, and also Hispanic / Latina women from South and Central America. And that's just for a start. She has to have the right hair colour (dark-ish brunette), right age (under 30), right height (not too short, not too tall), be spiritual / somewhat religious, good education, come from a good family, etc etc... This means I don't even see that many women who I can say wholeheartedly I'd be deeply interested in...

I treat them all as unique individuals, and would I fuck all the women I approach? Sure. Would I want to invest serious time on multiple dates with them before sex? No. I like adventures and fast sex with minimal dates. I've been on so many "dates " prior to 2014 (when I got into 3 year LTR) that I had enough of dates for a lifetime. Would I be open to to marry them? Definitely not, only a very small proportion...

It got so bad that over the last several years I started losing hope that I will ever find a normal girlfriend, let alone marriage material woman in UK, in London at least. My ex (I am still hoping she'll be back) was the closest I got to somewhat marriage material woman (from my viewpoint, as she somewhat hit at least several of important criteria) over maybe last 7 years or so - after thousands and thousands of approaches...
 
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the right date makes getting her back home a piece of cake

KJ Francis

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Alcohol, are you questioning because you think this affects me? Lol, this is not an issue.
because of how it could affect the girls' perceptions of her safety with a stranger approaching drunk during the day...?

as for being picky, are you currently getting laid at all? actual abundance also has wide ranging effects.
 
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