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I'm not saying that Mystery's method is not true or real, but his type of girls are usually the ones who lean more towards the conservative side, if his not fucking them on the 1st date. Cuz if you think about it, the girls that you were able to get out on dates are usually the ones that have longer attention spans, whereas his proposal of the date model is inviting her out on the second, third and so on dates. He is inviting them out for a group hangout or being in an environment where everyone is commingling.
What pissed me off about Mystery is that the dude is a very unique person, he assume everyone else could use his style or something. His style and his ability to gain compliance and court attention is very different from your normal PUA. He is one of those guys that has a set of cards, metaphorically and literally, because he's a magician, at the same time he has to name off a few things, like his height is 200cm+, and he wears these weird ass things that grabs attention, which could blow out potentially as well. He doesn't like to joke much. He is firm and candid with his demeanor. He's not one of those banter-type of guys. I know his wingman Beckster is and Matador was, but he himself not so much. And he is one of those dudes, one of the few that I've seen with a charismatic personality, and tries to find a way to get slotted in the provider frame. With your high value status is what he focuses on, he probably gets blown out because you tried to provide too much value. Commingling with people too much, being romantic and shit. He wants to find a wife, “his girl”, that’s his mission. He's not denying that, but to implement his game, I’m pretty sure, you lose out on a lot of pussy. His game I believe it's tailored for very specific girls who are provider seeking and at the same time they're very high quality too.
“No girl of expectational beauty is ever alone.”
-Mystery
He also mentions that he's not into “one night stands” or pulling, calls that failing... WTF lol
He tailored his game towards that, but he also missed the fact that it kills your momentum to do this. I think I read somewhere Mystery being out in 6 years, he got like 40 something lays, which by standard is not horrible or bad, he's obviously going for a certain demographic. Maybe he's working something that we don't understand, but based on his escalation windows, playing the long hours, the hourly, like if you don't pull for some girls I say a lot of girls especially from a cold approach you lose the girls windows and you get slotted into the provider frame, with his type of value, I mean, Western countries. In Eastern countries, there's more to deal with and his opens it up by having more of a social frame with them, gaining social value with them, still, I don't think he plays the lover characteristics too well, providing too much value.
And if there's one person that Mystery is similar to I don't know if it's age or I don't know if it's just preferences of style he's similar to is Zan Perrion, who’s much focused on his girl, these days as well, but back in the days he would fuck a lot but he slowed down. He just enjoys flirting with girls, did their angle but he goes on about some romantic fantasy about like oh, girls, girls, they’re a gift of life. I mean, I know they are, but fucking you got to fuck them first. I'm laughing now, while I'm writing.
Because even as a beginner, obviously we know that's not Mystery style. Mystery style is not beginner friendly at all neither is it for intermediate guys. It's like very specific type of guy like high-end venue high-end working types and then you get the high-end type of girls. It's like everything super niche but to get to get that you need momentum, you need the social awareness, you need to have the connections and etc. Mystery could go in a city and then just because he's fucking Mystery, he gets all these easy networking opportunities, whereas a normal AFC wouldn't have that opportunity so you need to start from Ground Zero.
You take any super top dude, out there, I guarantee you without the language without the awareness of the cities and he doesn't know anyone, that's a key point, he's not going to do that well immediately and in cities that he just rocks up to assuming a bunch of shit he'll have a easier time building it from ground up zero to 10, during that process he learns a lot but it's like these things erik don’t talk about. Mystery's approach, I could say I'm in my home turf when I originally start a game and I could blow out a bunch of good looking dudes or guys that have supposedly higher value than me and other cities, cuz I am locally connected. I know all the places to go. I have good logistics. I have a wingman with me that we've been gaming out like for a year or two so we know everyone and we can pull more consistently than supposed a random frustrated chump that just came to our city assuming you could get into some good clubs and know every corner, skip lines to venues in the city. not going to work and the reason I'm bit frustrated is because Mystery says a lot of things and in a dogmatic way and just because he's Mystery people take it as gospel and it doesn't fucking work that way because your situation is different cuz if you're at a cold approach in day game, you don't have that long of a window compared to if you were to do long session night game and then you pull after party and then you pull for dinner that's that's an environment where there's like a social cohesion value. Normal dudes, including myself we don't have that, doing cold approach day game or night game (in new cities), especially we need to run everything faster escalation and hit windows you need to not miss you need to lead you need to change of venue you need to see if you got wings that could provide you value momentarily and then pull and then you close not whereas Mystery quote unquote closes on third, fourth date WTF bro
Mystery he's on the top echelon of game, he talks in a certain way that's dogmatic. A lot of people just not going to be able to pick up on it there's techniques like the the body rocking, BACK TURN, techniques for night game to merge sets providing value how to express emotion these kind of more practical things you're able to do but compared to like his way of courting the girls and how to extracting the value from the generating a hub that's not that that's not easy game that you need time you need a lot of effort you need to know the right people know the right place to go to do that normal people won't be able to do it not saying I'm not able to but you need a lot of time and I thought like one thing I really really disagree with is his escalation escalation time and he says anywhere from 6 to 8 hours. If they’re not ready to fuck at 2-4 hour mark you chance goes down drastically. Girl 1 hour or two or three at most, some shit based off my experience either bangs or not. anyways social frame maybe different how he approaches that and I'm sure he gets a girls that are within that specific niche that he likes, but it applies to a small minority of guys that is able to actually play that game that's why a lot of guys who are marketing in the social circle high value on inviting mystery out to parties and group he's very popular with those I don't want names but if you want another full-time job I'm sure you could do that too but anyways thought I'd just share recently my thoughts.
Cool guy, but he sperg out too much even during his interviews about nonsense or about his upbringing to PUA, except for that time when he debated the wizard, Ross Jefferies. Lucky Mystery met Ross over video, or else he’ll probably do a back turn on him
What pissed me off about Mystery is that the dude is a very unique person, he assume everyone else could use his style or something. His style and his ability to gain compliance and court attention is very different from your normal PUA. He is one of those guys that has a set of cards, metaphorically and literally, because he's a magician, at the same time he has to name off a few things, like his height is 200cm+, and he wears these weird ass things that grabs attention, which could blow out potentially as well. He doesn't like to joke much. He is firm and candid with his demeanor. He's not one of those banter-type of guys. I know his wingman Beckster is and Matador was, but he himself not so much. And he is one of those dudes, one of the few that I've seen with a charismatic personality, and tries to find a way to get slotted in the provider frame. With your high value status is what he focuses on, he probably gets blown out because you tried to provide too much value. Commingling with people too much, being romantic and shit. He wants to find a wife, “his girl”, that’s his mission. He's not denying that, but to implement his game, I’m pretty sure, you lose out on a lot of pussy. His game I believe it's tailored for very specific girls who are provider seeking and at the same time they're very high quality too.
“No girl of expectational beauty is ever alone.”
-Mystery
He also mentions that he's not into “one night stands” or pulling, calls that failing... WTF lol
He tailored his game towards that, but he also missed the fact that it kills your momentum to do this. I think I read somewhere Mystery being out in 6 years, he got like 40 something lays, which by standard is not horrible or bad, he's obviously going for a certain demographic. Maybe he's working something that we don't understand, but based on his escalation windows, playing the long hours, the hourly, like if you don't pull for some girls I say a lot of girls especially from a cold approach you lose the girls windows and you get slotted into the provider frame, with his type of value, I mean, Western countries. In Eastern countries, there's more to deal with and his opens it up by having more of a social frame with them, gaining social value with them, still, I don't think he plays the lover characteristics too well, providing too much value.
And if there's one person that Mystery is similar to I don't know if it's age or I don't know if it's just preferences of style he's similar to is Zan Perrion, who’s much focused on his girl, these days as well, but back in the days he would fuck a lot but he slowed down. He just enjoys flirting with girls, did their angle but he goes on about some romantic fantasy about like oh, girls, girls, they’re a gift of life. I mean, I know they are, but fucking you got to fuck them first. I'm laughing now, while I'm writing.
Because even as a beginner, obviously we know that's not Mystery style. Mystery style is not beginner friendly at all neither is it for intermediate guys. It's like very specific type of guy like high-end venue high-end working types and then you get the high-end type of girls. It's like everything super niche but to get to get that you need momentum, you need the social awareness, you need to have the connections and etc. Mystery could go in a city and then just because he's fucking Mystery, he gets all these easy networking opportunities, whereas a normal AFC wouldn't have that opportunity so you need to start from Ground Zero.
You take any super top dude, out there, I guarantee you without the language without the awareness of the cities and he doesn't know anyone, that's a key point, he's not going to do that well immediately and in cities that he just rocks up to assuming a bunch of shit he'll have a easier time building it from ground up zero to 10, during that process he learns a lot but it's like these things erik don’t talk about. Mystery's approach, I could say I'm in my home turf when I originally start a game and I could blow out a bunch of good looking dudes or guys that have supposedly higher value than me and other cities, cuz I am locally connected. I know all the places to go. I have good logistics. I have a wingman with me that we've been gaming out like for a year or two so we know everyone and we can pull more consistently than supposed a random frustrated chump that just came to our city assuming you could get into some good clubs and know every corner, skip lines to venues in the city. not going to work and the reason I'm bit frustrated is because Mystery says a lot of things and in a dogmatic way and just because he's Mystery people take it as gospel and it doesn't fucking work that way because your situation is different cuz if you're at a cold approach in day game, you don't have that long of a window compared to if you were to do long session night game and then you pull after party and then you pull for dinner that's that's an environment where there's like a social cohesion value. Normal dudes, including myself we don't have that, doing cold approach day game or night game (in new cities), especially we need to run everything faster escalation and hit windows you need to not miss you need to lead you need to change of venue you need to see if you got wings that could provide you value momentarily and then pull and then you close not whereas Mystery quote unquote closes on third, fourth date WTF bro
Mystery he's on the top echelon of game, he talks in a certain way that's dogmatic. A lot of people just not going to be able to pick up on it there's techniques like the the body rocking, BACK TURN, techniques for night game to merge sets providing value how to express emotion these kind of more practical things you're able to do but compared to like his way of courting the girls and how to extracting the value from the generating a hub that's not that that's not easy game that you need time you need a lot of effort you need to know the right people know the right place to go to do that normal people won't be able to do it not saying I'm not able to but you need a lot of time and I thought like one thing I really really disagree with is his escalation escalation time and he says anywhere from 6 to 8 hours. If they’re not ready to fuck at 2-4 hour mark you chance goes down drastically. Girl 1 hour or two or three at most, some shit based off my experience either bangs or not. anyways social frame maybe different how he approaches that and I'm sure he gets a girls that are within that specific niche that he likes, but it applies to a small minority of guys that is able to actually play that game that's why a lot of guys who are marketing in the social circle high value on inviting mystery out to parties and group he's very popular with those I don't want names but if you want another full-time job I'm sure you could do that too but anyways thought I'd just share recently my thoughts.
Cool guy, but he sperg out too much even during his interviews about nonsense or about his upbringing to PUA, except for that time when he debated the wizard, Ross Jefferies. Lucky Mystery met Ross over video, or else he’ll probably do a back turn on him
Not a great advertisement for Mystery's and others workshops in my eyes. 
(If anyone is doubting my words or just curious, he can private message me for links to this coach's websites)