Nightgame street openers

[TomInHo]

"Hi" or "Hey" is the best opener known to man

Reason why I prefer that is because I noticed sometimes when I try to be to clever girls won't even hear what I said

But after I say "Hi" I will then go into the real opener once I have hear attention to avoid the "What?" or "Huh" responses

 

[Skills]

"Hi" or "Hey" is the best opener known to man

Reason why I prefer that is because I noticed sometimes when I try to be to clever girls won't even hear what I said

But after I say "Hi" I will then go into the real opener once I have hear attention to avoid the "What?" or "Huh" responses

That is not an opener is an attention grabber i used both as well in day game but yes then i open

 

[TomInHo]

That is not an opener is an attention grabber i used both as well in day game but yes then i open

But do you think most people are aware of getting attention first?

May seem obvious to you but you would be surprised how often men skip that step and immediately start blabbing

 

[Skills]

Because it does not do anything good, and at worst, it conveys that you are looking for fun, not bringing the fun. In most nightgame setting, women are extremly sensitive to value - it is like high school all again. Mystery had a point there.

What is implied with "how's your night going"? A frame that you are looking for something - which rarely sets a good frame.

And yet it works...

LR - Return of The Jedi

I've written extensively about my love for day game. I got into day game to step away from night game, where I was above average at best, because of booze. After 2.5 years of staying away from bars and clubs, I decided to make a comeback. First night went horrible lol. Made 2 weak approaches...

www.skilledseducer.com

Which is all that matters, though I will agree your spin seems more optimal though i have not tried it..

LR - Return of The Jedi

I've written extensively about my love for day game. I got into day game to step away from night game, where I was above average at best, because of booze. After 2.5 years of staying away from bars and clubs, I decided to make a comeback. First night went horrible lol. Made 2 weak approaches...

www.skilledseducer.com

 

[Skills]

But do you think most people are aware of getting attention first?

May seem obvious to you but you would be surprised how often men skip that step and immediately start blabbing

Agree

 

[gameboy]

Yes this one works has to be de with happy vibe, enthusiasm and surprise.. a lot of acting and voice inflation. ... Forgot about that one..

I'd say it in a normal, "interested in getting to know you" kind of way. No acting required. Girls tell me their name and boom we're talking.

 

[Teevster]

And yet it works...

LR - Return of The Jedi

I've written extensively about my love for day game. I got into day game to step away from night game, where I was above average at best, because of booze. After 2.5 years of staying away from bars and clubs, I decided to make a comeback. First night went horrible lol. Made 2 weak approaches...

www.skilledseducer.com

Which is all that matters, though I will agree your spin seems more optimal though i have not tried it..

LR - Return of The Jedi

I've written extensively about my love for day game. I got into day game to step away from night game, where I was above average at best, because of booze. After 2.5 years of staying away from bars and clubs, I decided to make a comeback. First night went horrible lol. Made 2 weak approaches...

www.skilledseducer.com

There are two things to keep in mind - and these are nuances:

From the report: "Me, to both chicks: Soooo, how's your night going? Asides from guarding the bar, of course."

First there is a tease as a follow up, which balances things out.

Secondly, the context has an impact here.

@James D is in a club. So it is less obvious he is looking for "something (potentially shady)" than if he were in the street. In the street, men roaming tend to be looking for after parties (get girls home) or places to hang, if not outrigh selling drugs and stuff. Girls in the street at nighttime tend to be much more defensive. The exception to this is outside the club post-closing time.

Here we are talking about someone who is not at a club during "club time" asking girls "how their night is going".... I think you get my point.

-Teevster

 

[Skills]

I'd say it in a normal, "interested in getting to know you" kind of way. No acting required. Girls tell me their name and boom we're talking.

The way i do it, is how i explained it with an element of surprise and playfulness....

 

[Definitely_not_a_gymrat]

Because it does not do anything good, and at worst, it conveys that you are looking for fun, not bringing the fun. In most nightgame setting, women are extremly sensitive to value - it is like high school all again. Mystery had a point there.

Ah, explains the hesitancy in their reactions, gonna try using other openers now.

What is implied with "how's your night going"? A frame that you are looking for something - which rarely sets a good frame.

Makes sense

 

[Teevster]

Ah, explains the hesitancy in their reactions, gonna try using other openers now.

Makes sense

Just think of it this way: does you openers convey that you try to get something from them (bad), or does it convey that you may bring something to them (good)? Or it is neutral (totally okey). It does nto have to be explicit - it is enough if things are implied.

-Teevster

 

[Water]

Just random thing to add, when I approach one frame / mindset I am opening from is “I am the party”, I am fun and spontaneous, enjoyable to be around, and it is her privilege to spend time with me, if she has good tastes.

I mention this because OP had an opener asking where the afterparty or party is or something and that reminded me of this.

I have a list of mindsets and frames written down somewhere with my routine stack.

 

[Water]

Just random thing to add, when I approach one frame / mindset I am opening from is “I am the party”, I am fun and spontaneous, enjoyable to be around, and it is her privilege to spend time with me, if she has good tastes.

I mention this because OP had an opener asking where the afterparty or party is or something and that reminded me of this.

I have a list of mindsets and frames written down somewhere with my routine stack.

To clarify, my mindset is not as cocky or conceited as I made it sound. What I wrote is just an underlying and somewhat subliminal belief / mindset.

 

[KnownUniverse]

You need to remember some countries are easier to game in than others. The commonwealth nations are the hardest. Women are held to much higher value here. I've noticed a correlation between countries that are easy to game and the sex work culture of that country. This is why so many guys go to Asia, South America or even Eastern Europe (places that happen to have lots of cheap sex workers) to find a relationship because women's perceived value is lower making them easier to interact with.

Of course pulling is easy in america - you can buy girls for $100!

You'll notice that countries like canada, aus, NZ and probably the uk doesnt have these street workers anymore. They used to 10+ years ago which was also when PUA was profilic even in those countries.

If a country has lots of street workers that's just the tip of the iceberg it means there's an entire culture built around gold digging and status appreciation. And game is ultimately about boosting your status.

 

[Skills]

You need to remember some countries are easier to game in than others. The commonwealth nations are the hardest. Women are held to much higher value here. I've noticed a correlation between countries that are easy to game and the sex work culture of that country. This is why so many guys go to Asia, South America or even Eastern Europe (places that happen to have lots of cheap sex workers) to find a relationship because women's perceived value is lower making them easier to interact with.

Of course pulling is easy in america - you can buy girls for $100!

You'll notice that countries like canada, aus, NZ and probably the uk doesnt have these street workers anymore. They used to 10+ years ago which was also when PUA was profilic even in those countries.

If a country has lots of street workers that's just the tip of the iceberg it means there's an entire culture built around gold digging and status appreciation. And game is ultimately about boosting your status.

what did i just read?? are you trolling or drunk???

 

[KnownUniverse]

what did i just read?? are you trolling or drunk???

The logic is sound. It may require an elevated iq to understand it but the reasoning makes sense. A country's sex work industry is an indicator of its prudishness. You won’t find street walkers in Saudi Arabia! You probaly won't get a lot of same day lays there as well.