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Not another money post, but yes the difference between a boss and simp (tale of 2 wings)

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Ok guys, i just had enough of reading the corruption of lover, provider, and the different silly money posts lately so, i am going to make one last attempt to illustrate differences first lets clarify some definitions:

is a slang insult for men who are seen as too attentive and submissive to women, especially out of a failed hope of winning some entitled sexual attention or activity from them. ... The word simp is meant to troll young men for doing anything for a girl to get some action he supposedly deserves.

What is a boss:

A person who knows what he or she wants, knows how to get what he wants, and gets it when he wants. He or she lives by his or her own code and does not care about what others think. A boss has his or her own personality, and does not follow the norm, just because it is the norm. A boss does not settle for less than he or she is worthy of.

What is a gold digger:

Someone who only likes people because of how much money they have, or because of the items they own.
Guy: Wanna go out?
Girl: No
Guy: Okay then *Gets into Lamborghini*
Girl: *Notices Lamborghini* I take that back. I will go out with you.
Guy: What a gold digger.

Be patient, i will make my points..... First, there are some women that are not GOLD DIGGERS, but they biologically wants a guy that is a man and got their shit together, but she is not a gold digger per se, ok lets concede that she does want a provider....

So now let me tell you the tell of my wing primo and my former loser no listen to advise student neighbor lets call him "the lawyer"

my wing primo is what the community may call a provider game (though i totally disagree, for me he is a BOSS).....

Primo got cars, cribs, money, passive income, and throws party every days, he does 3 somes and 4 somes like people swiping right on dating apps.

- primo is short, bold, a bit feminine, can cold approach with no approach anxiety..... Goes to the same clubs, gets tables, pays for women ubbers.... He is not worried or scare to throw money at women..... But he does not give a shit, he knows some women can be pieces of shit and take advantage but he shrugs, he enjoys the party and enjoys having a good time, he is cool and does not give a shit at throwing money at women.... Women are constantly fighting and competing for his attention.... Women beg him to be the girlfriend, he goes "nah you are straight and i like having 3 somes" hb: "ok i will do that for you" primo" "you sure? them they go "yes"and they follow through....

^ this is a boss, he knows some women want to get him to be a provider, he knows women are attracted to him having his life together, being successful and he does not give a shit to throw money to have a good time = due to this attitude he gets tons of attraction, competition and compliance and WOMEN RESPECT HIM, he gets attraction due to they can feel this attitude.

BUT HE IS NOT A PUSSY, one time me and him went to a club, he bought a girl a drink the girl turn out that was with a guy she liked and use him for the drink, he went up to the girl grab the drink he bought and threw it away....

^ i would put razor jack and the thin man and guys like this as bosses no simps....

Now lets talk about my loser lawyer wing....

He would do anything for women financially, would spend money on them like crazy, buy them flowers, take them to fancy dinners, co signed on cars, when they were in a financial crisis take care of them etc.... His attitude was let me use my money to PLEASE THEM to get them so they see how nice i am....... = loser simp/provider.... Now it work at times but he was constantly depressed, miserable and getting cheated on constantly...


^ women can tell and feel the different dynamics and will get super hooked on the boss, and disgusted with the simp....
 

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Im lacking context since I haven't been too active, but im guessing there was some sort of debate about spending money on girls means your beta.

I agree with the argument that being a wimp is based on HOW you use your money and not on the mere fact that your using it. I am sure that if most guys were rich they would be leveraging their money to get women just like ur friend. Im just curious about 2 things, does he open them with money, like is buying girls a drink his opener? Also, do you think he would still be getting results if he didn't spend money on them?

Edit- I just saw your other topic about referrals and I can't reply to it since im not advanced :mad:
 

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Im lacking context since I haven't been too active, but im guessing there was some sort of debate about spending money on girls means your beta.

I agree with the argument that being a wimp is based on HOW you use your money and not on the mere fact that your using it. I am sure that if most guys were rich they would be leveraging their money to get women just like ur friend. Im just curious about 2 things, does he open them with money, like is buying girls a drink his opener? Also, do you think he would still be getting results if he didn't spend money on them?

Edit- I just saw your other topic about referrals and I can't reply to it since im not advanced :mad:
No he doesn't lead with money...he just doesn't care to spend it to have a good time.the lawyer does
 

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Great value post!

Made some cool distinctions for myself.
 

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Oh I just wrote about this in Chase's thread.

There's a nice alpha male studios quote "get yourself a nice car a rolex, sell the bitch a dream, fuck her from the back 3 times then drop her off the side of the road"

If one has money and doesn't mind spending it on women, that's the respectable and honorable thing to do, or a variety thereof like throwing cocaine yacht parties, as opposed to ever buying things for a woman directly.

Now is it really game, and are the women really attracted and enjoying the sex or is it just a transactional sex negotiation game where you come out on top? That's another question.
 

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Oh I just wrote about this in Chase's thread.

There's a nice alpha male studios quote "get yourself a nice car a rolex, sell the bitch a dream, fuck her from the back 3 times then drop her off the side of the road"

If one has money and doesn't mind spending it on women, that's the respectable and honorable thing to do, or a variety thereof like throwing cocaine yacht parties, as opposed to ever buying things for a woman directly.

Now is it really game, and are the women really attracted and enjoying the sex or is it just a transactional sex negotiation game where you come out on top? That's another question.

no transactional sex negotiation, you kind of did not understand it, the girls get attracted and start imagining being part of his life, a lot of the times he does not even spend a penny, just by the girl being in his house....

One time i pulled 3 girls to his house, he took one right away to the bedroom after we got there and told her "take off your clothes" then he banged her....

^ cost the ubber, when he sent them back (i did not want to drive them back)
 
the right date makes getting her back home a piece of cake

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I mean is it because the girls are attracted, as in they feel visceral feelings of physical hunger for the man himself, by seeing his lifestyle, or do they consciously calculate that maybe if they sleep with him they could get access to his resources and get nice things in life, that's the distinction.

From how you describe this particular night though it does seem more of the first. Seems like usually in the second case girls will usually try to play the chaste princess in order to manipulate him to invest first.
 

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Im lacking context since I haven't been too active, but im guessing there was some sort of debate about spending money on girls means your beta.

I agree with the argument that being a wimp is based on HOW you use your money and not on the mere fact that your using it. I am sure that if most guys were rich they would be leveraging their money to get women just like ur friend. Im just curious about 2 things, does he open them with money, like is buying girls a drink his opener? Also, do you think he would still be getting results if he didn't spend money on them?

Edit- I just saw your other topic about referrals and I can't reply to it since im not advanced :mad:

i show him this whole post:

me: I made a post about you
https://www.skilledseducer.com/thre...etween-a-boss-and-simp-tale-of-2-wings.23363/
And this one
https://www.skilledseducer.com/thre...tting-laid-like-crazy-during-quarantine.23007


primo: you misspelled bald!

Me: I know
primo: damn bro schooling peeps out here loll
primo: i thought that second post said i was a drug dealer

primo: had to re read it lol

me: I mentioned you a lot cause guys have limiting believes, and excuses about height specially
me:Then the players call people with your money a simp

primo: Yea I get it

primo: I say a lot...

primo: “I don’t usually fuck girls taller than me, but I’ll make an exception for you” haha

primo: When they are tall

Me: They ask me if you start interactions buying drinks

Primo: NEVER

primo: If they ask for a drink from the start I either stop talking to them or if I really like her I ask her to buy the drink and I’ll buy the next lol
 

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I mean is it because the girls are attracted, as in they feel visceral feelings of physical hunger for the man himself, by seeing his lifestyle, or do they consciously calculate that maybe if they sleep with him they could get access to his resources and get nice things in life, that's the distinction.

From how you describe this particular night though it does seem more of the first. Seems like usually in the second case girls will usually try to play the chaste princess in order to manipulate him to invest first.


i have seen both depending on the girls... I have also experience both, a lot of girls think i am a boss lol, before of course they are inside my tiny apt. and realized bate and switch it happened to me here:

 

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Women are attracted to high value man.
High value man can come in too many forms ( Boss, CEO, Good-Looking, Popular, Dominant, or Rich,..)
A man with money usually means he is a high value male. Because how else he could get this money: either he is smart, talented ,.....etc .
Then, Women are attracted to a guy with money, because he is a high value.

Of course, don't lead with money, and you'd better have other things going in your life , besides money.

Think about Christian Grey in 50 Shades of Grey.
 

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Women are attracted to high value man.
High value man can come in too many forms ( Boss, CEO, Good-Looking, Popular, Dominant, or Rich,..)
A man with money usually means he is a high value male. Because how else he could get this money: either he is smart, talented ,.....etc .
Then, Women are attracted to a guy with money, because he is a high value.

Of course, don't lead with money, and you'd better have other things going in your life , besides money.

Think about Christian Grey in 50 Shades of Grey.
 

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Quick tale about guys with money vs guys with good frame:

1) POB meets Logistics Manager of a major nationwide company who makes way more than him. She is recently divorced and lacking good sex. He fucks her good for a while;
2) Ex hubbie buys her a very nice expensive car in an attempt to get her back;
3) she calls POB to meet and fuck....he says he cannot meet because he needs to drive to the (far away) outlet to buy some clothes;
4) without him asking, she offers a ride on her very nice car she didn't pay for;
5) she pays for gas, all the highway tolls, spends 3 hours shopping with him and being his bag girl, drives him all the way home and fucks him after;
 

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Nah watch the video...no red pill that is boytoy aka more plates more dates.
I did . Maybe I missed something I’ll watch again though .
 
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I did . Maybe I missed something I’ll watch again though .

no you are right, his talking about hypergamy, but i put it in the context of the 50 shades of grey quote in your previous post (i don't give a shit about the hypergamy part) so my bad for the confusion.... (i just care about the context you gave in your sample, so i was agreeing with you with the video part making your point, that is what i posted the video cause you put grey in your sample, get me) but yeah, re-watching it, i see what you are saying with the hypergamy stuff, it was not in that context...


p.s. i saw your question in the chat, i still don't get the chat.. But, i replied...
 

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no you are right, his talking about hypergamy, but i put it in the context of the 50 shades of grey quote in your previous post (i don't give a shit about the hypergamy part) so my bad for the confusion.... (i just care about the context you gave in your sample, so i was agreeing with you with the video part making your point, that is what i posted the video cause you put grey in your sample, get me) but yeah, re-watching it, i see what you are saying with the hypergamy stuff, it was not in that context...


p.s. i saw your question in the chat, i still don't get the chat.. But, i replied...

Thanks, man.
 

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i show him this whole post:

me: I made a post about you
https://www.skilledseducer.com/thre...etween-a-boss-and-simp-tale-of-2-wings.23363/
And this one
https://www.skilledseducer.com/thre...tting-laid-like-crazy-during-quarantine.23007


primo: you misspelled bald!

Me: I know
primo: damn bro schooling peeps out here loll
primo: i thought that second post said i was a drug dealer

primo: had to re read it lol

me: I mentioned you a lot cause guys have limiting believes, and excuses about height specially
me:Then the players call people with your money a simp

primo: Yea I get it

primo: I say a lot...

primo: “I don’t usually fuck girls taller than me, but I’ll make an exception for you” haha

primo: When they are tall

Me: They ask me if you start interactions buying drinks

Primo: NEVER

primo: If they ask for a drink from the start I either stop talking to them or if I really like her I ask her to buy the drink and I’ll buy the next lol
I very curious about his game, if I had the money I would dedicate at least a year to living like that. How old is he btw?
 
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